Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

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a fan wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 10:34 pm
old salt wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 10:31 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 10:26 pm
old salt wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 10:18 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:30 pm
youthathletics wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:07 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:05 pm
old salt wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 4:46 pm
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old salt wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 10:32 pm
a fan wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 10:07 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 9:30 pm
a fan wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 11:44 pm
old salt wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 9:37 pm What makes you think this reached Barr's level ?
Your citation is making that claim, OS. How the F is this alleged corruption happening when A. Trump is head of the Exec Branch, and B. Wray, Barr, and Weiss are all freakin' Trump appointees? and C. Biden isn't even POTUS

Do you honestly not understand how stupid this is? How the F does Joe Biden cover something up, when he's sunning himself in Delaware, and isn't the freaking POTUS? THESE ARE ALL TRUMP"S PEOPLE. What part of that don't you get?

These are idiots trying to get you to click on every half-a**sed conspiracy they can come up with......stop falling for this sh(t.

This conspiracy cannot exist without gross incompetence---or conspiracy------ on the part of Barr, Wray, and dozens of Trump's people.

You wanna pin it on them for being THAT bad at their jobs? Fine by me.
Barr has spoken on what he knew when he left office. I gave you the CSPAN source. Nothing has come out since citing his first hand involvement.
Individuals named have been further down the chain. By the time Barr departed, it was still just another routine tax case which was being quietly adjudicated between the IRS, DoJ & Hunter's reps. They were protecting Hunter's privacy & giving him a chance to pay up. They were not leaking & making it a political issue with the pending election campaign. Now, you are criticizing Barr for following the DoJ policy which had been trampled in 2016, which was one of the abuses which prompted Barr to come back, so it would not happen again. There was still plenty of time to prosecute if Hunter did not pay up. The case had not become ripe yet within the DoJ, even though the WB's may have been ready to prosecute immediately, despite the DoJ polIcy. The WB's were encountering the embedded resistance within the Fed bureaucracy which Barr also addressed in the CSPAN interview I linked. The first SOL's did not begin to expire until after the Oct 2022 meeting of the WB's with Weiss, which was a reason they asked for the meeting. It's really a weak diversion to try to pin this on Barr. I don't know what Wray knew & when. How far down into the DoJ bureaucracy do you think "Trump's people" existed, especially by the end of his term.
You're moving the goalposts-----constantly----to try and sound rational.

-you have asserted that that both the DoJ and FBI....multiple people in each department....are throwing Hunter's case.
-Then you find out that these problems started way the F back in 2020....when it's simply not possible that this is happening.
-Then you change course, and tell us "oh, no, no-----I'm just worried about the SOL's"
-To which I respond "well then why the F did it take IRS agents between 2 and 5 years to start pulling warrants? (you told me the IRS started in 2015)
-to which you have no response, get frustrated, and then yell at me that I"m trying to pin YOUR conspiracy, not mine, on Barr.


I"m simply trying to tell you that the logic you are using for your conspiracies---that, yet again, you're simply pulling out of your RightWingClickbait feed------makes no sense.

You say you want a conversation...that's what this is. Your assertions don't hold water. I'm here to easily refute them. If Weiss, Wray, or Barr nailed Joe Biden for corruptIon? You and your buds would throw them the biggest parade in history, correct? And yet? They found nothing. Not even enough to open an investigation.

The ONLY part that ain't full on bananas? You want to ask Weiss why the SOL's ran out. That's fine. Perfectly reasonable question, and he'll answer that question if you can simply play the game you play when R's aren't involved "oh, i'm waiting to see how this plays out".

Well? Do that. Do that with Weiss, and move on. There is no larger conspiracy, sorry. Not without Barr and Wray either suck(ng REALLY BAD at their jobs (possible), or being "in on it". But because of that magic little R, you are mentally incapable of considering that maybe Barr and Wray aren't that great at their jobs.

I'm not saying that they are.....I'm saying yep, that's possible.
Moving goal posts ? During the course of our discussion on this issue, more & more information has emerged, & will continue to emerge.

Yes. Weiss CAN answer the SOL question & also why Hunter hasn't been charged yet, after the plea deal blew up, ...but he's not answering & likely won't before the election, now that he's been elevated to SC.

Most tax cases don't require warrants or grand juries.

Barr stayed true to the DoJ policy. This did not leak before the election.

The fact remains -- Hunter has still not resolved his past tax issues.
So this is where it should be: a private citizen with a tax payment problem. BFD.

Would you be at fault or have anything to do with your children not filing their taxes, even if you put up the money to pay their obligation? I know I wouldn’t be if my kids were the ones who didn’t pay.
Given the duration & size of the "tax problem", the foreign sources of revenue, the access to the VP, & govt complicity in covering it up, it is a BFD.

"My fault" would depend on whether or not my kid was monetizing access to me & funneling any part of the proceeds to me.
I'd use my access, influence & resources to ensure that he filed & paid his taxes, especially if I was keeping open the possibility of my own political future.
How would a parent use their influence and resources to ensure their adult kid paid his/her taxes? How do yo do that?
ask your friend you just spoke with this well, that’s doing it? 😉
Old Salt put it out there. I want to hear his response.
Stop taking his phone calls when he's influence peddling. Stop dragging him along on AF2 for business trips. Don't let the Secret Service try to recover his gun.
How is that using your access, influence and resources to get your adult child to pay his taxes?
Threaten to cut him out, stopping the source of his income.
And your advice would make sense, except you don't give this same advice to Trump's boys. You cheer on their literal malfeasance.

And hold Joe and Hunter to a higher standard. You do this over, and over, and over......
Trump's kids are in civil court. Cy Vance declined to bring a criminal case. Hunter faces criminal charges.
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Lolololol. Pathetic and intellectually dishonest.

Trump’s NY Case is crimimal, Trump stole donations from kid’s cancer victims. Trump illegally took docs he has no rigjt to have. Trump defrauded students at Trump U. Don’t forget his rape

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I am waiting to hear how OS would use access, influence and resources to get his kid to do something the kid won’t do or won’t stop doing. I want to hear how that works.
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 8:28 am I am waiting to hear how OS would use access, influence and resources to get his kid to do something the kid won’t do or won’t stop doing. I want to hear how that works.
Wouldn't it make sense that if one could do anything to help their kid, it would be primarily focused on the addiction and mental health issues? Taxes would come much later in my calculus...but obviously OS imagines "access, influence and resources" can force a 40+ year old man...
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MDlaxfan76 wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 8:45 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 8:28 am I am waiting to hear how OS would use access, influence and resources to get his kid to do something the kid won’t do or won’t stop doing. I want to hear how that works.
Wouldn't it make sense that if one could do anything to help their kid, it would be primarily focused on the addiction and mental health issues? Taxes would come much later in my calculus...but obviously OS imagines "access, influence and resources" can force a 40+ year old man...
He did answer and it makes perfect sense and is what you should do to help addicts, stop the enabling.....'cut him off' from easy money. How you two missed that is beyond me. Have you ever watched the show "Intervention" The Biden's continue to 'enable' poor behavior.
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youthathletics wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 9:28 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 8:45 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 8:28 am I am waiting to hear how OS would use access, influence and resources to get his kid to do something the kid won’t do or won’t stop doing. I want to hear how that works.
Wouldn't it make sense that if one could do anything to help their kid, it would be primarily focused on the addiction and mental health issues? Taxes would come much later in my calculus...but obviously OS imagines "access, influence and resources" can force a 40+ year old man...
He did answer and it makes perfect sense and is what you should do to help addicts, stop the enabling.....'cut him off' from easy money. How you two missed that is beyond me. Have you ever watched the show "Intervention" The Biden's continue to 'enable' poor behavior.
How is that using access, influence and resources to get his adult son to pay his taxes? How would you suggest a parent use his access, influence and resources to get their adult child to do something…..particularly because the parent interest is in advancing his own career…..how does a parent utilize those things so that their child doesn’t hinder their advancement?
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 10:40 am
youthathletics wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 9:28 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 8:45 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 8:28 am I am waiting to hear how OS would use access, influence and resources to get his kid to do something the kid won’t do or won’t stop doing. I want to hear how that works.
Wouldn't it make sense that if one could do anything to help their kid, it would be primarily focused on the addiction and mental health issues? Taxes would come much later in my calculus...but obviously OS imagines "access, influence and resources" can force a 40+ year old man...
He did answer and it makes perfect sense and is what you should do to help addicts, stop the enabling.....'cut him off' from easy money. How you two missed that is beyond me. Have you ever watched the show "Intervention" The Biden's continue to 'enable' poor behavior.
How is that using access, influence and resources to get his adult son to pay his taxes? How would you suggest a parent use his access, influence and resources to get their adult child to do something…..particularly because the parent interest is in advancing his own career…..how does a parent utilize those things so that their child doesn’t hinder their advancement?
asked and answered already.
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youthathletics wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 11:09 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 10:40 am
youthathletics wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 9:28 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 8:45 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 8:28 am I am waiting to hear how OS would use access, influence and resources to get his kid to do something the kid won’t do or won’t stop doing. I want to hear how that works.
Wouldn't it make sense that if one could do anything to help their kid, it would be primarily focused on the addiction and mental health issues? Taxes would come much later in my calculus...but obviously OS imagines "access, influence and resources" can force a 40+ year old man...
He did answer and it makes perfect sense and is what you should do to help addicts, stop the enabling.....'cut him off' from easy money. How you two missed that is beyond me. Have you ever watched the show "Intervention" The Biden's continue to 'enable' poor behavior.
How is that using access, influence and resources to get his adult son to pay his taxes? How would you suggest a parent use his access, influence and resources to get their adult child to do something…..particularly because the parent interest is in advancing his own career…..how does a parent utilize those things so that their child doesn’t hinder their advancement?
asked and answered already.
No it wasn’t. Here we go again….How are those things you mentioned before utilizing access, influence and resources to get an adult child to pay taxes or anything else the parent wants the child to do? You can answer that question here, if you don’t mind.
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youthathletics wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 9:28 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 8:45 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 8:28 am I am waiting to hear how OS would use access, influence and resources to get his kid to do something the kid won’t do or won’t stop doing. I want to hear how that works.
Wouldn't it make sense that if one could do anything to help their kid, it would be primarily focused on the addiction and mental health issues? Taxes would come much later in my calculus...but obviously OS imagines "access, influence and resources" can force a 40+ year old man...
He did answer and it makes perfect sense and is what you should do to help addicts, stop the enabling.....'cut him off' from easy money. How you two missed that is beyond me. Have you ever watched the show "Intervention" The Biden's continue to 'enable' poor behavior.
My first priority as a parent of someone who apparently was suicidal and self-destructive would be keeping them alive. Second priority, off the drug and alcohol dependence. It appears that those two aspects were accomplished with Hunter, though there were some very dark days along the way; and that's HUGE...this would still be my #1 priority, not my own political career.

Last on any list would be my own career.
But sure, I'd certainly then be encouraging him to get his taxes caught up and get clean with the law.
For HIS benefit first and foremost.

TLD's question was more specific, so feel free to try to address that as specifically.
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 9:44 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 9:36 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 8:27 am
old salt wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 10:29 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 10:11 pm
You are reduced to the New York Post….
The publication which had the most accurate reporting on this story from the start.

Here's a local PBS/NPR story for your tote bag.

https://whyy.org/articles/delaware-hunt ... 0on%20time.
I know plenty of people that are late or haven’t paid taxes…. My teammate from HS caught a case. He has been working it down since 2015. A couple of years were discharged. It never made the paper. Another guy still owes for 2021 and 2020. IRS is generally happy with acknowledgement and a payment plan. Hunter’s case is one of the few exceptions. They don’t like Biden.
BS. How many years did your friends not even bother to file ? Where's Hunter's payment plan, extending back to 2014 ? Who paid off your friends' payment plans ?
One had not filed for 5 or 6 years….. the other guy that got jammed up in 2015 has been paying it off slowly and a couple of years were discharged. Friends and family helped. He hit me up twice. You are part of the “elite” in this country. You don’t rub elbows with common folk anymore…..they ain’t at the dog park or in the officers club.
He called you a liar. Once again everyone else is lying while this perpetuated from crusty wet and dried old salt is truthful and accurate…

Or the fact is his experiences doesn’t create the omniscience he believes it does..
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 10:12 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 9:56 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 9:44 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 9:36 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 8:27 am
old salt wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 10:29 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 10:11 pm
You are reduced to the New York Post….
The publication which had the most accurate reporting on this story from the start.

Here's a local PBS/NPR story for your tote bag.

https://whyy.org/articles/delaware-hunt ... 0on%20time.
I know plenty of people that are late or haven’t paid taxes…. My teammate from HS caught a case. He has been working it down since 2015. A couple of years were discharged. It never made the paper. Another guy still owes for 2021 and 2020. IRS is generally happy with acknowledgement and a payment plan. Hunter’s case is one of the few exceptions. They don’t like Biden.
BS. How many years did your friends not even bother to file ? Where's Hunter's payment plan, extending back to 2014 ? Who paid off your friends' payment plans ?
One had not filed for 5 or 6 years….. the other guy that got jammed up in 2015 has been paying it off slowly and a couple of years were discharged. Friends and family helped. He hit me up twice. You are part of the “elite” in this country. You don’t rub elbows with common folk anymore…..they ain’t at the dog park or in the officers club.
BS. I battled the IRS for 5 years while I was stationed overseas because they failed to credit us for a payment check they cashed, even after we sent them copies of the cleared check, they tried to garnish my military pay (which Navy JAG lawyers blocked). It took a Congressional Rep intervention to resolve before I finally got a refund & what passed for an apology from the IRS.

Hunter had a sweetheart deal. He blew it because he expected a lifetime get out of jail free card for possible future prosecutions which might emerge from his laptop evidence.

obtw -- one of my dog park friends is my current tax preparer. She shares plenty of war stories from the masses.
Thanks.
Nice. Tax preparation - something I did at nights as a side hustle in grad school at 25…
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cradleandshoot wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 12:00 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:44 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 6:41 am
NattyBohChamps04 wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 10:21 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 3:47 pm Who made talk radio possible? What infuriates you is conservatives have been able to use the medium of talk radio to get their message across. How come the left was never able to follow suit? For as much as he is loathed and hated among liberal America Rush Limbaugh perfected the concept of talk radio. The entire world was convinced a syndicated talk radio show could never succeed. FLP America spent 30 years trying to get Rush off the airwaves. Like everything else the FLP try they failed miserably. So in the timespan of 30 years liberals could never find the right person to grace the airwaves and spread the message. Fortunately for liberals they still have college campuses to spread the message. :D
Let's make the world a better place doesn't sell ads.

You think the left and center is infuriated because you think everyone is in full hulk mode because you are.

The difference between you and the rest of the world is you're trained to get mad at everything. We get to see it every week non-stop here.

Some republicans are waking up to the hate machine, but you keep doubling down. I'm sure it helps with the blood pressure my man.

And yes, Rush Limbaugh perfected talk radio. Because he got you frothing at the mouth and giving him money for his drug addictions. Great job dude!
You are so very wrong old sod. I enjoyed the ability Rush had to get under the skin of the average FLP liberal. You speak of frothing at the mouth that was what YOUR side did trying to shut him up. I never gave the guy one red cent. I enjoyed parodies he did mocking all of your esteemed liberal icons. Ted Kennedy was defined as the drunken womanizing piece of chit that he was. To liberal Democrats he was the " Lion of the Senate" Any radio talk show host today liberal or conservative is walking down the path that Rush blazed. If only your team has found a radio host that was the equivalent to Rush. Your team had 30 years to do so and failed miserably. The message there is most Americans don't buy the liberal horsechit your side is selling. You had 30 years to prove otherwise. What happened in those 30 years?? Your message didn't resonate with mainstream America. No need to fear, it resonated very well on college campuses all over America.
You were a Rush fan?

Explains a lot.
Sure does shortstack. Rush was also a Nixon accolyte at the the same time as you. So was Rush wrong and you were right??? Your pathetic and predictable. You don't think I didnt already know how you would react?? I sure was a Rush fan for awhile. He took liberal Democrats like you to task every day he was on the air. Your side spent 30 years trying to get him off of air. Why was that MD???
Rush is a POS. And your a dumb hypocrite for all the nonsense you spew, and it is truly a waste of what trees provide humans with a future, he was a massive drug addicted clown who never changed and never tried to.

So stupid .
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:05 pm
old salt wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 4:46 pm
SCLaxAttack wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:10 am
old salt wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 10:32 pm
a fan wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 10:07 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 9:30 pm
a fan wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 11:44 pm
old salt wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 9:37 pm What makes you think this reached Barr's level ?
Your citation is making that claim, OS. How the F is this alleged corruption happening when A. Trump is head of the Exec Branch, and B. Wray, Barr, and Weiss are all freakin' Trump appointees? and C. Biden isn't even POTUS

Do you honestly not understand how stupid this is? How the F does Joe Biden cover something up, when he's sunning himself in Delaware, and isn't the freaking POTUS? THESE ARE ALL TRUMP"S PEOPLE. What part of that don't you get?

These are idiots trying to get you to click on every half-a**sed conspiracy they can come up with......stop falling for this sh(t.

This conspiracy cannot exist without gross incompetence---or conspiracy------ on the part of Barr, Wray, and dozens of Trump's people.

You wanna pin it on them for being THAT bad at their jobs? Fine by me.
Barr has spoken on what he knew when he left office. I gave you the CSPAN source. Nothing has come out since citing his first hand involvement.
Individuals named have been further down the chain. By the time Barr departed, it was still just another routine tax case which was being quietly adjudicated between the IRS, DoJ & Hunter's reps. They were protecting Hunter's privacy & giving him a chance to pay up. They were not leaking & making it a political issue with the pending election campaign. Now, you are criticizing Barr for following the DoJ policy which had been trampled in 2016, which was one of the abuses which prompted Barr to come back, so it would not happen again. There was still plenty of time to prosecute if Hunter did not pay up. The case had not become ripe yet within the DoJ, even though the WB's may have been ready to prosecute immediately, despite the DoJ polIcy. The WB's were encountering the embedded resistance within the Fed bureaucracy which Barr also addressed in the CSPAN interview I linked. The first SOL's did not begin to expire until after the Oct 2022 meeting of the WB's with Weiss, which was a reason they asked for the meeting. It's really a weak diversion to try to pin this on Barr. I don't know what Wray knew & when. How far down into the DoJ bureaucracy do you think "Trump's people" existed, especially by the end of his term.
You're moving the goalposts-----constantly----to try and sound rational.

-you have asserted that that both the DoJ and FBI....multiple people in each department....are throwing Hunter's case.
-Then you find out that these problems started way the F back in 2020....when it's simply not possible that this is happening.
-Then you change course, and tell us "oh, no, no-----I'm just worried about the SOL's"
-To which I respond "well then why the F did it take IRS agents between 2 and 5 years to start pulling warrants? (you told me the IRS started in 2015)
-to which you have no response, get frustrated, and then yell at me that I"m trying to pin YOUR conspiracy, not mine, on Barr.


I"m simply trying to tell you that the logic you are using for your conspiracies---that, yet again, you're simply pulling out of your RightWingClickbait feed------makes no sense.

You say you want a conversation...that's what this is. Your assertions don't hold water. I'm here to easily refute them. If Weiss, Wray, or Barr nailed Joe Biden for corruptIon? You and your buds would throw them the biggest parade in history, correct? And yet? They found nothing. Not even enough to open an investigation.

The ONLY part that ain't full on bananas? You want to ask Weiss why the SOL's ran out. That's fine. Perfectly reasonable question, and he'll answer that question if you can simply play the game you play when R's aren't involved "oh, i'm waiting to see how this plays out".

Well? Do that. Do that with Weiss, and move on. There is no larger conspiracy, sorry. Not without Barr and Wray either suck(ng REALLY BAD at their jobs (possible), or being "in on it". But because of that magic little R, you are mentally incapable of considering that maybe Barr and Wray aren't that great at their jobs.

I'm not saying that they are.....I'm saying yep, that's possible.
Moving goal posts ? During the course of our discussion on this issue, more & more information has emerged, & will continue to emerge.

Yes. Weiss CAN answer the SOL question & also why Hunter hasn't been charged yet, after the plea deal blew up, ...but he's not answering & likely won't before the election, now that he's been elevated to SC.

Most tax cases don't require warrants or grand juries.

Barr stayed true to the DoJ policy. This did not leak before the election.

The fact remains -- Hunter has still not resolved his past tax issues.
So this is where it should be: a private citizen with a tax payment problem. BFD.

Would you be at fault or have anything to do with your children not filing their taxes, even if you put up the money to pay their obligation? I know I wouldn’t be if my kids were the ones who didn’t pay.
Given the duration & size of the "tax problem", the foreign sources of revenue, the access to the VP, & govt complicity in covering it up, it is a BFD.

"My fault" would depend on whether or not my kid was monetizing access to me & funneling any part of the proceeds to me.
I'd use my access, influence & resources to ensure that he filed & paid his taxes, especially if I was keeping open the possibility of my own political future.
How would a parent use their influence and resources to ensure their adult kid paid his/her taxes? How do yo do that?
Generate “non taxable” income for him!

I don’t believe this but you stepped right into it
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Farfromgeneva wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 1:34 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:05 pm
old salt wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 4:46 pm
SCLaxAttack wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:10 am
old salt wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 10:32 pm
a fan wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 10:07 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 9:30 pm
a fan wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 11:44 pm
old salt wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 9:37 pm What makes you think this reached Barr's level ?
Your citation is making that claim, OS. How the F is this alleged corruption happening when A. Trump is head of the Exec Branch, and B. Wray, Barr, and Weiss are all freakin' Trump appointees? and C. Biden isn't even POTUS

Do you honestly not understand how stupid this is? How the F does Joe Biden cover something up, when he's sunning himself in Delaware, and isn't the freaking POTUS? THESE ARE ALL TRUMP"S PEOPLE. What part of that don't you get?

These are idiots trying to get you to click on every half-a**sed conspiracy they can come up with......stop falling for this sh(t.

This conspiracy cannot exist without gross incompetence---or conspiracy------ on the part of Barr, Wray, and dozens of Trump's people.

You wanna pin it on them for being THAT bad at their jobs? Fine by me.
Barr has spoken on what he knew when he left office. I gave you the CSPAN source. Nothing has come out since citing his first hand involvement.
Individuals named have been further down the chain. By the time Barr departed, it was still just another routine tax case which was being quietly adjudicated between the IRS, DoJ & Hunter's reps. They were protecting Hunter's privacy & giving him a chance to pay up. They were not leaking & making it a political issue with the pending election campaign. Now, you are criticizing Barr for following the DoJ policy which had been trampled in 2016, which was one of the abuses which prompted Barr to come back, so it would not happen again. There was still plenty of time to prosecute if Hunter did not pay up. The case had not become ripe yet within the DoJ, even though the WB's may have been ready to prosecute immediately, despite the DoJ polIcy. The WB's were encountering the embedded resistance within the Fed bureaucracy which Barr also addressed in the CSPAN interview I linked. The first SOL's did not begin to expire until after the Oct 2022 meeting of the WB's with Weiss, which was a reason they asked for the meeting. It's really a weak diversion to try to pin this on Barr. I don't know what Wray knew & when. How far down into the DoJ bureaucracy do you think "Trump's people" existed, especially by the end of his term.
You're moving the goalposts-----constantly----to try and sound rational.

-you have asserted that that both the DoJ and FBI....multiple people in each department....are throwing Hunter's case.
-Then you find out that these problems started way the F back in 2020....when it's simply not possible that this is happening.
-Then you change course, and tell us "oh, no, no-----I'm just worried about the SOL's"
-To which I respond "well then why the F did it take IRS agents between 2 and 5 years to start pulling warrants? (you told me the IRS started in 2015)
-to which you have no response, get frustrated, and then yell at me that I"m trying to pin YOUR conspiracy, not mine, on Barr.


I"m simply trying to tell you that the logic you are using for your conspiracies---that, yet again, you're simply pulling out of your RightWingClickbait feed------makes no sense.

You say you want a conversation...that's what this is. Your assertions don't hold water. I'm here to easily refute them. If Weiss, Wray, or Barr nailed Joe Biden for corruptIon? You and your buds would throw them the biggest parade in history, correct? And yet? They found nothing. Not even enough to open an investigation.

The ONLY part that ain't full on bananas? You want to ask Weiss why the SOL's ran out. That's fine. Perfectly reasonable question, and he'll answer that question if you can simply play the game you play when R's aren't involved "oh, i'm waiting to see how this plays out".

Well? Do that. Do that with Weiss, and move on. There is no larger conspiracy, sorry. Not without Barr and Wray either suck(ng REALLY BAD at their jobs (possible), or being "in on it". But because of that magic little R, you are mentally incapable of considering that maybe Barr and Wray aren't that great at their jobs.

I'm not saying that they are.....I'm saying yep, that's possible.
Moving goal posts ? During the course of our discussion on this issue, more & more information has emerged, & will continue to emerge.

Yes. Weiss CAN answer the SOL question & also why Hunter hasn't been charged yet, after the plea deal blew up, ...but he's not answering & likely won't before the election, now that he's been elevated to SC.

Most tax cases don't require warrants or grand juries.

Barr stayed true to the DoJ policy. This did not leak before the election.

The fact remains -- Hunter has still not resolved his past tax issues.
So this is where it should be: a private citizen with a tax payment problem. BFD.

Would you be at fault or have anything to do with your children not filing their taxes, even if you put up the money to pay their obligation? I know I wouldn’t be if my kids were the ones who didn’t pay.
Given the duration & size of the "tax problem", the foreign sources of revenue, the access to the VP, & govt complicity in covering it up, it is a BFD.

"My fault" would depend on whether or not my kid was monetizing access to me & funneling any part of the proceeds to me.
I'd use my access, influence & resources to ensure that he filed & paid his taxes, especially if I was keeping open the possibility of my own political future.
How would a parent use their influence and resources to ensure their adult kid paid his/her taxes? How do yo do that?
Generate “non taxable” income for him!

I don’t believe this but you stepped right into it
That implies he’s not paying because he doesn’t have cash. More passive income may continue to be used for a non productive purpose.
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Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 1:59 pm
Farfromgeneva wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 1:34 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:05 pm
old salt wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 4:46 pm
SCLaxAttack wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:10 am
old salt wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 10:32 pm
a fan wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 10:07 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 9:30 pm
a fan wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 11:44 pm
old salt wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 9:37 pm What makes you think this reached Barr's level ?
Your citation is making that claim, OS. How the F is this alleged corruption happening when A. Trump is head of the Exec Branch, and B. Wray, Barr, and Weiss are all freakin' Trump appointees? and C. Biden isn't even POTUS

Do you honestly not understand how stupid this is? How the F does Joe Biden cover something up, when he's sunning himself in Delaware, and isn't the freaking POTUS? THESE ARE ALL TRUMP"S PEOPLE. What part of that don't you get?

These are idiots trying to get you to click on every half-a**sed conspiracy they can come up with......stop falling for this sh(t.

This conspiracy cannot exist without gross incompetence---or conspiracy------ on the part of Barr, Wray, and dozens of Trump's people.

You wanna pin it on them for being THAT bad at their jobs? Fine by me.
Barr has spoken on what he knew when he left office. I gave you the CSPAN source. Nothing has come out since citing his first hand involvement.
Individuals named have been further down the chain. By the time Barr departed, it was still just another routine tax case which was being quietly adjudicated between the IRS, DoJ & Hunter's reps. They were protecting Hunter's privacy & giving him a chance to pay up. They were not leaking & making it a political issue with the pending election campaign. Now, you are criticizing Barr for following the DoJ policy which had been trampled in 2016, which was one of the abuses which prompted Barr to come back, so it would not happen again. There was still plenty of time to prosecute if Hunter did not pay up. The case had not become ripe yet within the DoJ, even though the WB's may have been ready to prosecute immediately, despite the DoJ polIcy. The WB's were encountering the embedded resistance within the Fed bureaucracy which Barr also addressed in the CSPAN interview I linked. The first SOL's did not begin to expire until after the Oct 2022 meeting of the WB's with Weiss, which was a reason they asked for the meeting. It's really a weak diversion to try to pin this on Barr. I don't know what Wray knew & when. How far down into the DoJ bureaucracy do you think "Trump's people" existed, especially by the end of his term.
You're moving the goalposts-----constantly----to try and sound rational.

-you have asserted that that both the DoJ and FBI....multiple people in each department....are throwing Hunter's case.
-Then you find out that these problems started way the F back in 2020....when it's simply not possible that this is happening.
-Then you change course, and tell us "oh, no, no-----I'm just worried about the SOL's"
-To which I respond "well then why the F did it take IRS agents between 2 and 5 years to start pulling warrants? (you told me the IRS started in 2015)
-to which you have no response, get frustrated, and then yell at me that I"m trying to pin YOUR conspiracy, not mine, on Barr.


I"m simply trying to tell you that the logic you are using for your conspiracies---that, yet again, you're simply pulling out of your RightWingClickbait feed------makes no sense.

You say you want a conversation...that's what this is. Your assertions don't hold water. I'm here to easily refute them. If Weiss, Wray, or Barr nailed Joe Biden for corruptIon? You and your buds would throw them the biggest parade in history, correct? And yet? They found nothing. Not even enough to open an investigation.

The ONLY part that ain't full on bananas? You want to ask Weiss why the SOL's ran out. That's fine. Perfectly reasonable question, and he'll answer that question if you can simply play the game you play when R's aren't involved "oh, i'm waiting to see how this plays out".

Well? Do that. Do that with Weiss, and move on. There is no larger conspiracy, sorry. Not without Barr and Wray either suck(ng REALLY BAD at their jobs (possible), or being "in on it". But because of that magic little R, you are mentally incapable of considering that maybe Barr and Wray aren't that great at their jobs.

I'm not saying that they are.....I'm saying yep, that's possible.
Moving goal posts ? During the course of our discussion on this issue, more & more information has emerged, & will continue to emerge.

Yes. Weiss CAN answer the SOL question & also why Hunter hasn't been charged yet, after the plea deal blew up, ...but he's not answering & likely won't before the election, now that he's been elevated to SC.

Most tax cases don't require warrants or grand juries.

Barr stayed true to the DoJ policy. This did not leak before the election.

The fact remains -- Hunter has still not resolved his past tax issues.
So this is where it should be: a private citizen with a tax payment problem. BFD.

Would you be at fault or have anything to do with your children not filing their taxes, even if you put up the money to pay their obligation? I know I wouldn’t be if my kids were the ones who didn’t pay.
Given the duration & size of the "tax problem", the foreign sources of revenue, the access to the VP, & govt complicity in covering it up, it is a BFD.

"My fault" would depend on whether or not my kid was monetizing access to me & funneling any part of the proceeds to me.
I'd use my access, influence & resources to ensure that he filed & paid his taxes, especially if I was keeping open the possibility of my own political future.
How would a parent use their influence and resources to ensure their adult kid paid his/her taxes? How do yo do that?
Generate “non taxable” income for him!

I don’t believe this but you stepped right into it
That implies he’s not paying because he doesn’t have cash. More passive income may continue to be used for a non productive purpose.
I’m talking about that income that gets washed in the Chinese laundromat (Panama)…why pay if ain’t reported.

Again not saying I believe that but it does roll off the tinfoil covered tongue quite easily.
Harvard University, out
University of Utah, in

I am going to get a 4.0 in damage.

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Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

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Farfromgeneva wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 3:48 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 1:59 pm
Farfromgeneva wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 1:34 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:05 pm
old salt wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 4:46 pm
SCLaxAttack wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:10 am
old salt wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 10:32 pm
a fan wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 10:07 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 9:30 pm
a fan wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 11:44 pm
old salt wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 9:37 pm What makes you think this reached Barr's level ?
Your citation is making that claim, OS. How the F is this alleged corruption happening when A. Trump is head of the Exec Branch, and B. Wray, Barr, and Weiss are all freakin' Trump appointees? and C. Biden isn't even POTUS

Do you honestly not understand how stupid this is? How the F does Joe Biden cover something up, when he's sunning himself in Delaware, and isn't the freaking POTUS? THESE ARE ALL TRUMP"S PEOPLE. What part of that don't you get?

These are idiots trying to get you to click on every half-a**sed conspiracy they can come up with......stop falling for this sh(t.

This conspiracy cannot exist without gross incompetence---or conspiracy------ on the part of Barr, Wray, and dozens of Trump's people.

You wanna pin it on them for being THAT bad at their jobs? Fine by me.
Barr has spoken on what he knew when he left office. I gave you the CSPAN source. Nothing has come out since citing his first hand involvement.
Individuals named have been further down the chain. By the time Barr departed, it was still just another routine tax case which was being quietly adjudicated between the IRS, DoJ & Hunter's reps. They were protecting Hunter's privacy & giving him a chance to pay up. They were not leaking & making it a political issue with the pending election campaign. Now, you are criticizing Barr for following the DoJ policy which had been trampled in 2016, which was one of the abuses which prompted Barr to come back, so it would not happen again. There was still plenty of time to prosecute if Hunter did not pay up. The case had not become ripe yet within the DoJ, even though the WB's may have been ready to prosecute immediately, despite the DoJ polIcy. The WB's were encountering the embedded resistance within the Fed bureaucracy which Barr also addressed in the CSPAN interview I linked. The first SOL's did not begin to expire until after the Oct 2022 meeting of the WB's with Weiss, which was a reason they asked for the meeting. It's really a weak diversion to try to pin this on Barr. I don't know what Wray knew & when. How far down into the DoJ bureaucracy do you think "Trump's people" existed, especially by the end of his term.
You're moving the goalposts-----constantly----to try and sound rational.

-you have asserted that that both the DoJ and FBI....multiple people in each department....are throwing Hunter's case.
-Then you find out that these problems started way the F back in 2020....when it's simply not possible that this is happening.
-Then you change course, and tell us "oh, no, no-----I'm just worried about the SOL's"
-To which I respond "well then why the F did it take IRS agents between 2 and 5 years to start pulling warrants? (you told me the IRS started in 2015)
-to which you have no response, get frustrated, and then yell at me that I"m trying to pin YOUR conspiracy, not mine, on Barr.


I"m simply trying to tell you that the logic you are using for your conspiracies---that, yet again, you're simply pulling out of your RightWingClickbait feed------makes no sense.

You say you want a conversation...that's what this is. Your assertions don't hold water. I'm here to easily refute them. If Weiss, Wray, or Barr nailed Joe Biden for corruptIon? You and your buds would throw them the biggest parade in history, correct? And yet? They found nothing. Not even enough to open an investigation.

The ONLY part that ain't full on bananas? You want to ask Weiss why the SOL's ran out. That's fine. Perfectly reasonable question, and he'll answer that question if you can simply play the game you play when R's aren't involved "oh, i'm waiting to see how this plays out".

Well? Do that. Do that with Weiss, and move on. There is no larger conspiracy, sorry. Not without Barr and Wray either suck(ng REALLY BAD at their jobs (possible), or being "in on it". But because of that magic little R, you are mentally incapable of considering that maybe Barr and Wray aren't that great at their jobs.

I'm not saying that they are.....I'm saying yep, that's possible.
Moving goal posts ? During the course of our discussion on this issue, more & more information has emerged, & will continue to emerge.

Yes. Weiss CAN answer the SOL question & also why Hunter hasn't been charged yet, after the plea deal blew up, ...but he's not answering & likely won't before the election, now that he's been elevated to SC.

Most tax cases don't require warrants or grand juries.

Barr stayed true to the DoJ policy. This did not leak before the election.

The fact remains -- Hunter has still not resolved his past tax issues.
So this is where it should be: a private citizen with a tax payment problem. BFD.

Would you be at fault or have anything to do with your children not filing their taxes, even if you put up the money to pay their obligation? I know I wouldn’t be if my kids were the ones who didn’t pay.
Given the duration & size of the "tax problem", the foreign sources of revenue, the access to the VP, & govt complicity in covering it up, it is a BFD.

"My fault" would depend on whether or not my kid was monetizing access to me & funneling any part of the proceeds to me.
I'd use my access, influence & resources to ensure that he filed & paid his taxes, especially if I was keeping open the possibility of my own political future.
How would a parent use their influence and resources to ensure their adult kid paid his/her taxes? How do yo do that?
Generate “non taxable” income for him!

I don’t believe this but you stepped right into it
That implies he’s not paying because he doesn’t have cash. More passive income may continue to be used for a non productive purpose.
I’m talking about that income that gets washed in the Chinese laundromat (Panama)…why pay if ain’t reported.

Again not saying I believe that but it does roll off the tinfoil covered tongue quite easily.
There wouldn’t be taxes due on this if were unknown. I want to know how a parent uses access, influence and resources to make their 40 year old child pays his/her taxes or do something they wouldn’t otherwise do? particularly so that it doesn’t jeopardize the parent’s career aspirations.

I know how they could help the son get his grift on….
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Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

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Twisting in the wind, eschewing common sense and attacking others. All in defense of two loser grifters like Hunter Biden and Eric Trump.

Listen to yourselves, people.

:lol:
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Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

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kramerica.inc wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 6:47 pm Twisting in the wind, eschewing common sense and attacking others. All in defense of two loser grifters like Hunter Biden and Eric Trump.

Listen to yourselves, people.

:lol:
You can take a stab at it….How would a parent use their access, influence and resources to ensure their adult kid paid his/her taxes? How would a parent do that?
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MDlaxfan76 wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 8:45 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 8:28 am I am waiting to hear how OS would use access, influence and resources to get his kid to do something the kid won’t do or won’t stop doing. I want to hear how that works.
Wouldn't it make sense that if one could do anything to help their kid, it would be primarily focused on the addiction and mental health issues? Taxes would come much later in my calculus...but obviously OS imagines "access, influence and resources" can force a 40+ year old man...
...you can influence if access to you is the primary source of his income.
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Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

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Farfromgeneva wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 1:12 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 10:12 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 9:56 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 9:44 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 9:36 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 8:27 am
old salt wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 10:29 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 10:11 pm
You are reduced to the New York Post….
The publication which had the most accurate reporting on this story from the start.

Here's a local PBS/NPR story for your tote bag.

https://whyy.org/articles/delaware-hunt ... 0on%20time.
I know plenty of people that are late or haven’t paid taxes…. My teammate from HS caught a case. He has been working it down since 2015. A couple of years were discharged. It never made the paper. Another guy still owes for 2021 and 2020. IRS is generally happy with acknowledgement and a payment plan. Hunter’s case is one of the few exceptions. They don’t like Biden.
BS. How many years did your friends not even bother to file ? Where's Hunter's payment plan, extending back to 2014 ? Who paid off your friends' payment plans ?
One had not filed for 5 or 6 years….. the other guy that got jammed up in 2015 has been paying it off slowly and a couple of years were discharged. Friends and family helped. He hit me up twice. You are part of the “elite” in this country. You don’t rub elbows with common folk anymore…..they ain’t at the dog park or in the officers club.
BS. I battled the IRS for 5 years while I was stationed overseas because they failed to credit us for a payment check they cashed, even after we sent them copies of the cleared check, they tried to garnish my military pay (which Navy JAG lawyers blocked). It took a Congressional Rep intervention to resolve before I finally got a refund & what passed for an apology from the IRS.

Hunter had a sweetheart deal. He blew it because he expected a lifetime get out of jail free card for possible future prosecutions which might emerge from his laptop evidence.

obtw -- one of my dog park friends is my current tax preparer. She shares plenty of war stories from the masses.
Thanks.
Nice. Tax preparation - something I did at nights as a side hustle in grad school at 25…
Were you a CPA ? Which state(s) ? How many disputes or claims with the IRS did you resolve for your clients ?
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