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It actually isn’t the case. Weiss null processed others kike it in DE it is all about trying to smear JB. Otherwise it is a pretty ordinary situation for a tax issue.
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cradleandshoot wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 6:41 am
NattyBohChamps04 wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 10:21 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 3:47 pm Who made talk radio possible? What infuriates you is conservatives have been able to use the medium of talk radio to get their message across. How come the left was never able to follow suit? For as much as he is loathed and hated among liberal America Rush Limbaugh perfected the concept of talk radio. The entire world was convinced a syndicated talk radio show could never succeed. FLP America spent 30 years trying to get Rush off the airwaves. Like everything else the FLP try they failed miserably. So in the timespan of 30 years liberals could never find the right person to grace the airwaves and spread the message. Fortunately for liberals they still have college campuses to spread the message. :D
Let's make the world a better place doesn't sell ads.

You think the left and center is infuriated because you think everyone is in full hulk mode because you are.

The difference between you and the rest of the world is you're trained to get mad at everything. We get to see it every week non-stop here.

Some republicans are waking up to the hate machine, but you keep doubling down. I'm sure it helps with the blood pressure my man.

And yes, Rush Limbaugh perfected talk radio. Because he got you frothing at the mouth and giving him money for his drug addictions. Great job dude!
You are so very wrong old sod. I enjoyed the ability Rush had to get under the skin of the average FLP liberal. You speak of frothing at the mouth that was what YOUR side did trying to shut him up. I never gave the guy one red cent. I enjoyed parodies he did mocking all of your esteemed liberal icons. Ted Kennedy was defined as the drunken womanizing piece of chit that he was. To liberal Democrats he was the " Lion of the Senate" Any radio talk show host today liberal or conservative is walking down the path that Rush blazed. If only your team has found a radio host that was the equivalent to Rush. Your team had 30 years to do so and failed miserably. The message there is most Americans don't buy the liberal horsechit your side is selling. You had 30 years to prove otherwise. What happened in those 30 years?? Your message didn't resonate with mainstream America. No need to fear, it resonated very well on college campuses all over America.
You were a Rush fan?

Explains a lot.
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MDlaxfan76 wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:44 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 6:41 am
NattyBohChamps04 wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 10:21 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 3:47 pm Who made talk radio possible? What infuriates you is conservatives have been able to use the medium of talk radio to get their message across. How come the left was never able to follow suit? For as much as he is loathed and hated among liberal America Rush Limbaugh perfected the concept of talk radio. The entire world was convinced a syndicated talk radio show could never succeed. FLP America spent 30 years trying to get Rush off the airwaves. Like everything else the FLP try they failed miserably. So in the timespan of 30 years liberals could never find the right person to grace the airwaves and spread the message. Fortunately for liberals they still have college campuses to spread the message. :D
Let's make the world a better place doesn't sell ads.

You think the left and center is infuriated because you think everyone is in full hulk mode because you are.

The difference between you and the rest of the world is you're trained to get mad at everything. We get to see it every week non-stop here.

Some republicans are waking up to the hate machine, but you keep doubling down. I'm sure it helps with the blood pressure my man.

And yes, Rush Limbaugh perfected talk radio. Because he got you frothing at the mouth and giving him money for his drug addictions. Great job dude!
You are so very wrong old sod. I enjoyed the ability Rush had to get under the skin of the average FLP liberal. You speak of frothing at the mouth that was what YOUR side did trying to shut him up. I never gave the guy one red cent. I enjoyed parodies he did mocking all of your esteemed liberal icons. Ted Kennedy was defined as the drunken womanizing piece of chit that he was. To liberal Democrats he was the " Lion of the Senate" Any radio talk show host today liberal or conservative is walking down the path that Rush blazed. If only your team has found a radio host that was the equivalent to Rush. Your team had 30 years to do so and failed miserably. The message there is most Americans don't buy the liberal horsechit your side is selling. You had 30 years to prove otherwise. What happened in those 30 years?? Your message didn't resonate with mainstream America. No need to fear, it resonated very well on college campuses all over America.
You were a Rush fan?

Explains a lot.
Sure does shortstack. Rush was also a Nixon accolyte at the the same time as you. So was Rush wrong and you were right??? Your pathetic and predictable. You don't think I didnt already know how you would react?? I sure was a Rush fan for awhile. He took liberal Democrats like you to task every day he was on the air. Your side spent 30 years trying to get him off of air. Why was that MD???
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Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

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cradleandshoot wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 12:00 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:44 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 6:41 am
NattyBohChamps04 wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 10:21 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 3:47 pm Who made talk radio possible? What infuriates you is conservatives have been able to use the medium of talk radio to get their message across. How come the left was never able to follow suit? For as much as he is loathed and hated among liberal America Rush Limbaugh perfected the concept of talk radio. The entire world was convinced a syndicated talk radio show could never succeed. FLP America spent 30 years trying to get Rush off the airwaves. Like everything else the FLP try they failed miserably. So in the timespan of 30 years liberals could never find the right person to grace the airwaves and spread the message. Fortunately for liberals they still have college campuses to spread the message. :D
Let's make the world a better place doesn't sell ads.

You think the left and center is infuriated because you think everyone is in full hulk mode because you are.

The difference between you and the rest of the world is you're trained to get mad at everything. We get to see it every week non-stop here.

Some republicans are waking up to the hate machine, but you keep doubling down. I'm sure it helps with the blood pressure my man.

And yes, Rush Limbaugh perfected talk radio. Because he got you frothing at the mouth and giving him money for his drug addictions. Great job dude!
You are so very wrong old sod. I enjoyed the ability Rush had to get under the skin of the average FLP liberal. You speak of frothing at the mouth that was what YOUR side did trying to shut him up. I never gave the guy one red cent. I enjoyed parodies he did mocking all of your esteemed liberal icons. Ted Kennedy was defined as the drunken womanizing piece of chit that he was. To liberal Democrats he was the " Lion of the Senate" Any radio talk show host today liberal or conservative is walking down the path that Rush blazed. If only your team has found a radio host that was the equivalent to Rush. Your team had 30 years to do so and failed miserably. The message there is most Americans don't buy the liberal horsechit your side is selling. You had 30 years to prove otherwise. What happened in those 30 years?? Your message didn't resonate with mainstream America. No need to fear, it resonated very well on college campuses all over America.
You were a Rush fan?

Explains a lot.
Sure does shortstack. Rush was also a Nixon accolyte at the the same time as you. So was Rush wrong and you were right??? Your pathetic and predictable. You don't think I didnt already know how you would react?? I sure was a Rush fan for awhile. He took liberal Democrats like you to task every day he was on the air. Your side spent 30 years trying to get him off of air. Why was that MD???
My side?

Yeah, at 15 I didn't know better than to support the President who then had the biggest landslide victory in the past 100 years, but by 17 I did know better. I didn't reject the GOP, because Republicans were responsible for his resignation. I have no idea whether Rush figured it out, but perhaps he didn't.

Rush made many millions as a blowhard, selling fear, resentment, and anger. With no respect for truth much less balance and nuance.

I have no idea who was "trying to get him off the air" as it certainly wasn't the numbskulls who thought he was entertaining or the radio stations making money. On what basis could anyone, including "liberal Democrats" have him taken off the air? Under Reagan, the rules were changed to allow commentary without any semblance of balance to be broadcast on TV, and radio has pretty much always been a right wing haven for any big mouth who could gather an audience.

For whatever reason, the left side of the political spectrum has never had much success selling fear, resentment, and anger, with no respect for truth, on talk radio. I'm not an expert in why that is, but it's the history of radio.

But yeah, explains a lot that you were attracted to Rush.
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Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

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SCLaxAttack wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:10 am
old salt wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 10:32 pm
a fan wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 10:07 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 9:30 pm
a fan wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 11:44 pm
old salt wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 9:37 pm What makes you think this reached Barr's level ?
Your citation is making that claim, OS. How the F is this alleged corruption happening when A. Trump is head of the Exec Branch, and B. Wray, Barr, and Weiss are all freakin' Trump appointees? and C. Biden isn't even POTUS

Do you honestly not understand how stupid this is? How the F does Joe Biden cover something up, when he's sunning himself in Delaware, and isn't the freaking POTUS? THESE ARE ALL TRUMP"S PEOPLE. What part of that don't you get?

These are idiots trying to get you to click on every half-a**sed conspiracy they can come up with......stop falling for this sh(t.

This conspiracy cannot exist without gross incompetence---or conspiracy------ on the part of Barr, Wray, and dozens of Trump's people.

You wanna pin it on them for being THAT bad at their jobs? Fine by me.
Barr has spoken on what he knew when he left office. I gave you the CSPAN source. Nothing has come out since citing his first hand involvement.
Individuals named have been further down the chain. By the time Barr departed, it was still just another routine tax case which was being quietly adjudicated between the IRS, DoJ & Hunter's reps. They were protecting Hunter's privacy & giving him a chance to pay up. They were not leaking & making it a political issue with the pending election campaign. Now, you are criticizing Barr for following the DoJ policy which had been trampled in 2016, which was one of the abuses which prompted Barr to come back, so it would not happen again. There was still plenty of time to prosecute if Hunter did not pay up. The case had not become ripe yet within the DoJ, even though the WB's may have been ready to prosecute immediately, despite the DoJ polIcy. The WB's were encountering the embedded resistance within the Fed bureaucracy which Barr also addressed in the CSPAN interview I linked. The first SOL's did not begin to expire until after the Oct 2022 meeting of the WB's with Weiss, which was a reason they asked for the meeting. It's really a weak diversion to try to pin this on Barr. I don't know what Wray knew & when. How far down into the DoJ bureaucracy do you think "Trump's people" existed, especially by the end of his term.
You're moving the goalposts-----constantly----to try and sound rational.

-you have asserted that that both the DoJ and FBI....multiple people in each department....are throwing Hunter's case.
-Then you find out that these problems started way the F back in 2020....when it's simply not possible that this is happening.
-Then you change course, and tell us "oh, no, no-----I'm just worried about the SOL's"
-To which I respond "well then why the F did it take IRS agents between 2 and 5 years to start pulling warrants? (you told me the IRS started in 2015)
-to which you have no response, get frustrated, and then yell at me that I"m trying to pin YOUR conspiracy, not mine, on Barr.


I"m simply trying to tell you that the logic you are using for your conspiracies---that, yet again, you're simply pulling out of your RightWingClickbait feed------makes no sense.

You say you want a conversation...that's what this is. Your assertions don't hold water. I'm here to easily refute them. If Weiss, Wray, or Barr nailed Joe Biden for corruptIon? You and your buds would throw them the biggest parade in history, correct? And yet? They found nothing. Not even enough to open an investigation.

The ONLY part that ain't full on bananas? You want to ask Weiss why the SOL's ran out. That's fine. Perfectly reasonable question, and he'll answer that question if you can simply play the game you play when R's aren't involved "oh, i'm waiting to see how this plays out".

Well? Do that. Do that with Weiss, and move on. There is no larger conspiracy, sorry. Not without Barr and Wray either suck(ng REALLY BAD at their jobs (possible), or being "in on it". But because of that magic little R, you are mentally incapable of considering that maybe Barr and Wray aren't that great at their jobs.

I'm not saying that they are.....I'm saying yep, that's possible.
Moving goal posts ? During the course of our discussion on this issue, more & more information has emerged, & will continue to emerge.

Yes. Weiss CAN answer the SOL question & also why Hunter hasn't been charged yet, after the plea deal blew up, ...but he's not answering & likely won't before the election, now that he's been elevated to SC.

Most tax cases don't require warrants or grand juries.

Barr stayed true to the DoJ policy. This did not leak before the election.

The fact remains -- Hunter has still not resolved his past tax issues.
So this is where it should be: a private citizen with a tax payment problem. BFD.

Would you be at fault or have anything to do with your children not filing their taxes, even if you put up the money to pay their obligation? I know I wouldn’t be if my kids were the ones who didn’t pay.
Given the duration & size of the "tax problem", the foreign sources of revenue, the access to the VP, & govt complicity in covering it up, it is a BFD.

"My fault" would depend on whether or not my kid was monetizing access to me & funneling any part of the proceeds to me.
I'd use my access, influence & resources to ensure that he filed & paid his taxes, especially if I was keeping open the possibility of my own political future.
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old salt wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 4:46 pm Given the duration & size of the "tax problem", the foreign sources of revenue, the access to the VP, & govt complicity in covering it up, it is a BFD.
Now you're back to blaming Wray and Barr for not opening a case, and doing their jobs.

You get that, right? You cannot have it both ways. Either Wray&Barr are either corrupt or incompetent for not chasing down your latest conspiracy.

Wray's still there, my man. Guess who's in charge of these investigations? You're telling me Wray and his assigns covered for Joe Biden during the entirety of the Trump administration.
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I think all of Salty Snacks comments (160 pages and counting) and analysis can be summarized as follows:

1. Statute of limitations!!!!

2. Cover up!!!

3. Deep State!!!

4. Biden crime family!!!

5. Andrew McCarthy!!!

6. Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi!!!

Sound and fury....
Boycott stupid. Country over party.
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Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

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old salt wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 4:46 pm
SCLaxAttack wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:10 am
old salt wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 10:32 pm
a fan wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 10:07 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 9:30 pm
a fan wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 11:44 pm
old salt wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 9:37 pm What makes you think this reached Barr's level ?
Your citation is making that claim, OS. How the F is this alleged corruption happening when A. Trump is head of the Exec Branch, and B. Wray, Barr, and Weiss are all freakin' Trump appointees? and C. Biden isn't even POTUS

Do you honestly not understand how stupid this is? How the F does Joe Biden cover something up, when he's sunning himself in Delaware, and isn't the freaking POTUS? THESE ARE ALL TRUMP"S PEOPLE. What part of that don't you get?

These are idiots trying to get you to click on every half-a**sed conspiracy they can come up with......stop falling for this sh(t.

This conspiracy cannot exist without gross incompetence---or conspiracy------ on the part of Barr, Wray, and dozens of Trump's people.

You wanna pin it on them for being THAT bad at their jobs? Fine by me.
Barr has spoken on what he knew when he left office. I gave you the CSPAN source. Nothing has come out since citing his first hand involvement.
Individuals named have been further down the chain. By the time Barr departed, it was still just another routine tax case which was being quietly adjudicated between the IRS, DoJ & Hunter's reps. They were protecting Hunter's privacy & giving him a chance to pay up. They were not leaking & making it a political issue with the pending election campaign. Now, you are criticizing Barr for following the DoJ policy which had been trampled in 2016, which was one of the abuses which prompted Barr to come back, so it would not happen again. There was still plenty of time to prosecute if Hunter did not pay up. The case had not become ripe yet within the DoJ, even though the WB's may have been ready to prosecute immediately, despite the DoJ polIcy. The WB's were encountering the embedded resistance within the Fed bureaucracy which Barr also addressed in the CSPAN interview I linked. The first SOL's did not begin to expire until after the Oct 2022 meeting of the WB's with Weiss, which was a reason they asked for the meeting. It's really a weak diversion to try to pin this on Barr. I don't know what Wray knew & when. How far down into the DoJ bureaucracy do you think "Trump's people" existed, especially by the end of his term.
You're moving the goalposts-----constantly----to try and sound rational.

-you have asserted that that both the DoJ and FBI....multiple people in each department....are throwing Hunter's case.
-Then you find out that these problems started way the F back in 2020....when it's simply not possible that this is happening.
-Then you change course, and tell us "oh, no, no-----I'm just worried about the SOL's"
-To which I respond "well then why the F did it take IRS agents between 2 and 5 years to start pulling warrants? (you told me the IRS started in 2015)
-to which you have no response, get frustrated, and then yell at me that I"m trying to pin YOUR conspiracy, not mine, on Barr.


I"m simply trying to tell you that the logic you are using for your conspiracies---that, yet again, you're simply pulling out of your RightWingClickbait feed------makes no sense.

You say you want a conversation...that's what this is. Your assertions don't hold water. I'm here to easily refute them. If Weiss, Wray, or Barr nailed Joe Biden for corruptIon? You and your buds would throw them the biggest parade in history, correct? And yet? They found nothing. Not even enough to open an investigation.

The ONLY part that ain't full on bananas? You want to ask Weiss why the SOL's ran out. That's fine. Perfectly reasonable question, and he'll answer that question if you can simply play the game you play when R's aren't involved "oh, i'm waiting to see how this plays out".

Well? Do that. Do that with Weiss, and move on. There is no larger conspiracy, sorry. Not without Barr and Wray either suck(ng REALLY BAD at their jobs (possible), or being "in on it". But because of that magic little R, you are mentally incapable of considering that maybe Barr and Wray aren't that great at their jobs.

I'm not saying that they are.....I'm saying yep, that's possible.
Moving goal posts ? During the course of our discussion on this issue, more & more information has emerged, & will continue to emerge.

Yes. Weiss CAN answer the SOL question & also why Hunter hasn't been charged yet, after the plea deal blew up, ...but he's not answering & likely won't before the election, now that he's been elevated to SC.

Most tax cases don't require warrants or grand juries.

Barr stayed true to the DoJ policy. This did not leak before the election.

The fact remains -- Hunter has still not resolved his past tax issues.
So this is where it should be: a private citizen with a tax payment problem. BFD.

Would you be at fault or have anything to do with your children not filing their taxes, even if you put up the money to pay their obligation? I know I wouldn’t be if my kids were the ones who didn’t pay.
Given the duration & size of the "tax problem", the foreign sources of revenue, the access to the VP, & govt complicity in covering it up, it is a BFD.

"My fault" would depend on whether or not my kid was monetizing access to me & funneling any part of the proceeds to me.
I'd use my access, influence & resources to ensure that he filed & paid his taxes, especially if I was keeping open the possibility of my own political future.
How would a parent use their influence and resources to ensure their adult kid paid his/her taxes? How do yo do that?
“I wish you would!”
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:05 pm
old salt wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 4:46 pm
SCLaxAttack wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:10 am
old salt wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 10:32 pm
a fan wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 10:07 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 9:30 pm
a fan wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 11:44 pm
old salt wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 9:37 pm What makes you think this reached Barr's level ?
Your citation is making that claim, OS. How the F is this alleged corruption happening when A. Trump is head of the Exec Branch, and B. Wray, Barr, and Weiss are all freakin' Trump appointees? and C. Biden isn't even POTUS

Do you honestly not understand how stupid this is? How the F does Joe Biden cover something up, when he's sunning himself in Delaware, and isn't the freaking POTUS? THESE ARE ALL TRUMP"S PEOPLE. What part of that don't you get?

These are idiots trying to get you to click on every half-a**sed conspiracy they can come up with......stop falling for this sh(t.

This conspiracy cannot exist without gross incompetence---or conspiracy------ on the part of Barr, Wray, and dozens of Trump's people.

You wanna pin it on them for being THAT bad at their jobs? Fine by me.
Barr has spoken on what he knew when he left office. I gave you the CSPAN source. Nothing has come out since citing his first hand involvement.
Individuals named have been further down the chain. By the time Barr departed, it was still just another routine tax case which was being quietly adjudicated between the IRS, DoJ & Hunter's reps. They were protecting Hunter's privacy & giving him a chance to pay up. They were not leaking & making it a political issue with the pending election campaign. Now, you are criticizing Barr for following the DoJ policy which had been trampled in 2016, which was one of the abuses which prompted Barr to come back, so it would not happen again. There was still plenty of time to prosecute if Hunter did not pay up. The case had not become ripe yet within the DoJ, even though the WB's may have been ready to prosecute immediately, despite the DoJ polIcy. The WB's were encountering the embedded resistance within the Fed bureaucracy which Barr also addressed in the CSPAN interview I linked. The first SOL's did not begin to expire until after the Oct 2022 meeting of the WB's with Weiss, which was a reason they asked for the meeting. It's really a weak diversion to try to pin this on Barr. I don't know what Wray knew & when. How far down into the DoJ bureaucracy do you think "Trump's people" existed, especially by the end of his term.
You're moving the goalposts-----constantly----to try and sound rational.

-you have asserted that that both the DoJ and FBI....multiple people in each department....are throwing Hunter's case.
-Then you find out that these problems started way the F back in 2020....when it's simply not possible that this is happening.
-Then you change course, and tell us "oh, no, no-----I'm just worried about the SOL's"
-To which I respond "well then why the F did it take IRS agents between 2 and 5 years to start pulling warrants? (you told me the IRS started in 2015)
-to which you have no response, get frustrated, and then yell at me that I"m trying to pin YOUR conspiracy, not mine, on Barr.


I"m simply trying to tell you that the logic you are using for your conspiracies---that, yet again, you're simply pulling out of your RightWingClickbait feed------makes no sense.

You say you want a conversation...that's what this is. Your assertions don't hold water. I'm here to easily refute them. If Weiss, Wray, or Barr nailed Joe Biden for corruptIon? You and your buds would throw them the biggest parade in history, correct? And yet? They found nothing. Not even enough to open an investigation.

The ONLY part that ain't full on bananas? You want to ask Weiss why the SOL's ran out. That's fine. Perfectly reasonable question, and he'll answer that question if you can simply play the game you play when R's aren't involved "oh, i'm waiting to see how this plays out".

Well? Do that. Do that with Weiss, and move on. There is no larger conspiracy, sorry. Not without Barr and Wray either suck(ng REALLY BAD at their jobs (possible), or being "in on it". But because of that magic little R, you are mentally incapable of considering that maybe Barr and Wray aren't that great at their jobs.

I'm not saying that they are.....I'm saying yep, that's possible.
Moving goal posts ? During the course of our discussion on this issue, more & more information has emerged, & will continue to emerge.

Yes. Weiss CAN answer the SOL question & also why Hunter hasn't been charged yet, after the plea deal blew up, ...but he's not answering & likely won't before the election, now that he's been elevated to SC.

Most tax cases don't require warrants or grand juries.

Barr stayed true to the DoJ policy. This did not leak before the election.

The fact remains -- Hunter has still not resolved his past tax issues.
So this is where it should be: a private citizen with a tax payment problem. BFD.

Would you be at fault or have anything to do with your children not filing their taxes, even if you put up the money to pay their obligation? I know I wouldn’t be if my kids were the ones who didn’t pay.
Given the duration & size of the "tax problem", the foreign sources of revenue, the access to the VP, & govt complicity in covering it up, it is a BFD.

"My fault" would depend on whether or not my kid was monetizing access to me & funneling any part of the proceeds to me.
I'd use my access, influence & resources to ensure that he filed & paid his taxes, especially if I was keeping open the possibility of my own political future.
How would a parent use their influence and resources to ensure their adult kid paid his/her taxes? How do yo do that?
ask your friend you just spoke with this well, that’s doing it? 😉
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Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

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youthathletics wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:07 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:05 pm
old salt wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 4:46 pm
SCLaxAttack wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:10 am
old salt wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 10:32 pm
a fan wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 10:07 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 9:30 pm
a fan wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 11:44 pm
old salt wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 9:37 pm What makes you think this reached Barr's level ?
Your citation is making that claim, OS. How the F is this alleged corruption happening when A. Trump is head of the Exec Branch, and B. Wray, Barr, and Weiss are all freakin' Trump appointees? and C. Biden isn't even POTUS

Do you honestly not understand how stupid this is? How the F does Joe Biden cover something up, when he's sunning himself in Delaware, and isn't the freaking POTUS? THESE ARE ALL TRUMP"S PEOPLE. What part of that don't you get?

These are idiots trying to get you to click on every half-a**sed conspiracy they can come up with......stop falling for this sh(t.

This conspiracy cannot exist without gross incompetence---or conspiracy------ on the part of Barr, Wray, and dozens of Trump's people.

You wanna pin it on them for being THAT bad at their jobs? Fine by me.
Barr has spoken on what he knew when he left office. I gave you the CSPAN source. Nothing has come out since citing his first hand involvement.
Individuals named have been further down the chain. By the time Barr departed, it was still just another routine tax case which was being quietly adjudicated between the IRS, DoJ & Hunter's reps. They were protecting Hunter's privacy & giving him a chance to pay up. They were not leaking & making it a political issue with the pending election campaign. Now, you are criticizing Barr for following the DoJ policy which had been trampled in 2016, which was one of the abuses which prompted Barr to come back, so it would not happen again. There was still plenty of time to prosecute if Hunter did not pay up. The case had not become ripe yet within the DoJ, even though the WB's may have been ready to prosecute immediately, despite the DoJ polIcy. The WB's were encountering the embedded resistance within the Fed bureaucracy which Barr also addressed in the CSPAN interview I linked. The first SOL's did not begin to expire until after the Oct 2022 meeting of the WB's with Weiss, which was a reason they asked for the meeting. It's really a weak diversion to try to pin this on Barr. I don't know what Wray knew & when. How far down into the DoJ bureaucracy do you think "Trump's people" existed, especially by the end of his term.
You're moving the goalposts-----constantly----to try and sound rational.

-you have asserted that that both the DoJ and FBI....multiple people in each department....are throwing Hunter's case.
-Then you find out that these problems started way the F back in 2020....when it's simply not possible that this is happening.
-Then you change course, and tell us "oh, no, no-----I'm just worried about the SOL's"
-To which I respond "well then why the F did it take IRS agents between 2 and 5 years to start pulling warrants? (you told me the IRS started in 2015)
-to which you have no response, get frustrated, and then yell at me that I"m trying to pin YOUR conspiracy, not mine, on Barr.


I"m simply trying to tell you that the logic you are using for your conspiracies---that, yet again, you're simply pulling out of your RightWingClickbait feed------makes no sense.

You say you want a conversation...that's what this is. Your assertions don't hold water. I'm here to easily refute them. If Weiss, Wray, or Barr nailed Joe Biden for corruptIon? You and your buds would throw them the biggest parade in history, correct? And yet? They found nothing. Not even enough to open an investigation.

The ONLY part that ain't full on bananas? You want to ask Weiss why the SOL's ran out. That's fine. Perfectly reasonable question, and he'll answer that question if you can simply play the game you play when R's aren't involved "oh, i'm waiting to see how this plays out".

Well? Do that. Do that with Weiss, and move on. There is no larger conspiracy, sorry. Not without Barr and Wray either suck(ng REALLY BAD at their jobs (possible), or being "in on it". But because of that magic little R, you are mentally incapable of considering that maybe Barr and Wray aren't that great at their jobs.

I'm not saying that they are.....I'm saying yep, that's possible.
Moving goal posts ? During the course of our discussion on this issue, more & more information has emerged, & will continue to emerge.

Yes. Weiss CAN answer the SOL question & also why Hunter hasn't been charged yet, after the plea deal blew up, ...but he's not answering & likely won't before the election, now that he's been elevated to SC.

Most tax cases don't require warrants or grand juries.

Barr stayed true to the DoJ policy. This did not leak before the election.

The fact remains -- Hunter has still not resolved his past tax issues.
So this is where it should be: a private citizen with a tax payment problem. BFD.

Would you be at fault or have anything to do with your children not filing their taxes, even if you put up the money to pay their obligation? I know I wouldn’t be if my kids were the ones who didn’t pay.
Given the duration & size of the "tax problem", the foreign sources of revenue, the access to the VP, & govt complicity in covering it up, it is a BFD.

"My fault" would depend on whether or not my kid was monetizing access to me & funneling any part of the proceeds to me.
I'd use my access, influence & resources to ensure that he filed & paid his taxes, especially if I was keeping open the possibility of my own political future.
How would a parent use their influence and resources to ensure their adult kid paid his/her taxes? How do yo do that?
ask your friend you just spoke with this well, that’s doing it? 😉
Old Salt put it out there. I want to hear his response.
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Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

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a fan wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 5:41 pm
old salt wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 4:46 pm Given the duration & size of the "tax problem", the foreign sources of revenue, the access to the VP, & govt complicity in covering it up, it is a BFD.
Now you're back to blaming Wray and Barr for not opening a case, and doing their jobs.

You get that, right? You cannot have it both ways. Either Wray&Barr are either corrupt or incompetent for not chasing down your latest conspiracy.

Wray's still there, my man. Guess who's in charge of these investigations? You're telling me Wray and his assigns covered for Joe Biden during the entirety of the Trump administration.
They did open a case. They just didn't leak it to the media.

Wray's not in charge. It's DoJ's (Weiss) case.
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Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:30 pm
youthathletics wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:07 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:05 pm
old salt wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 4:46 pm
SCLaxAttack wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:10 am
old salt wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 10:32 pm
a fan wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 10:07 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 9:30 pm
a fan wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 11:44 pm
old salt wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 9:37 pm What makes you think this reached Barr's level ?
Your citation is making that claim, OS. How the F is this alleged corruption happening when A. Trump is head of the Exec Branch, and B. Wray, Barr, and Weiss are all freakin' Trump appointees? and C. Biden isn't even POTUS

Do you honestly not understand how stupid this is? How the F does Joe Biden cover something up, when he's sunning himself in Delaware, and isn't the freaking POTUS? THESE ARE ALL TRUMP"S PEOPLE. What part of that don't you get?

These are idiots trying to get you to click on every half-a**sed conspiracy they can come up with......stop falling for this sh(t.

This conspiracy cannot exist without gross incompetence---or conspiracy------ on the part of Barr, Wray, and dozens of Trump's people.

You wanna pin it on them for being THAT bad at their jobs? Fine by me.
Barr has spoken on what he knew when he left office. I gave you the CSPAN source. Nothing has come out since citing his first hand involvement.
Individuals named have been further down the chain. By the time Barr departed, it was still just another routine tax case which was being quietly adjudicated between the IRS, DoJ & Hunter's reps. They were protecting Hunter's privacy & giving him a chance to pay up. They were not leaking & making it a political issue with the pending election campaign. Now, you are criticizing Barr for following the DoJ policy which had been trampled in 2016, which was one of the abuses which prompted Barr to come back, so it would not happen again. There was still plenty of time to prosecute if Hunter did not pay up. The case had not become ripe yet within the DoJ, even though the WB's may have been ready to prosecute immediately, despite the DoJ polIcy. The WB's were encountering the embedded resistance within the Fed bureaucracy which Barr also addressed in the CSPAN interview I linked. The first SOL's did not begin to expire until after the Oct 2022 meeting of the WB's with Weiss, which was a reason they asked for the meeting. It's really a weak diversion to try to pin this on Barr. I don't know what Wray knew & when. How far down into the DoJ bureaucracy do you think "Trump's people" existed, especially by the end of his term.
You're moving the goalposts-----constantly----to try and sound rational.

-you have asserted that that both the DoJ and FBI....multiple people in each department....are throwing Hunter's case.
-Then you find out that these problems started way the F back in 2020....when it's simply not possible that this is happening.
-Then you change course, and tell us "oh, no, no-----I'm just worried about the SOL's"
-To which I respond "well then why the F did it take IRS agents between 2 and 5 years to start pulling warrants? (you told me the IRS started in 2015)
-to which you have no response, get frustrated, and then yell at me that I"m trying to pin YOUR conspiracy, not mine, on Barr.


I"m simply trying to tell you that the logic you are using for your conspiracies---that, yet again, you're simply pulling out of your RightWingClickbait feed------makes no sense.

You say you want a conversation...that's what this is. Your assertions don't hold water. I'm here to easily refute them. If Weiss, Wray, or Barr nailed Joe Biden for corruptIon? You and your buds would throw them the biggest parade in history, correct? And yet? They found nothing. Not even enough to open an investigation.

The ONLY part that ain't full on bananas? You want to ask Weiss why the SOL's ran out. That's fine. Perfectly reasonable question, and he'll answer that question if you can simply play the game you play when R's aren't involved "oh, i'm waiting to see how this plays out".

Well? Do that. Do that with Weiss, and move on. There is no larger conspiracy, sorry. Not without Barr and Wray either suck(ng REALLY BAD at their jobs (possible), or being "in on it". But because of that magic little R, you are mentally incapable of considering that maybe Barr and Wray aren't that great at their jobs.

I'm not saying that they are.....I'm saying yep, that's possible.
Moving goal posts ? During the course of our discussion on this issue, more & more information has emerged, & will continue to emerge.

Yes. Weiss CAN answer the SOL question & also why Hunter hasn't been charged yet, after the plea deal blew up, ...but he's not answering & likely won't before the election, now that he's been elevated to SC.

Most tax cases don't require warrants or grand juries.

Barr stayed true to the DoJ policy. This did not leak before the election.

The fact remains -- Hunter has still not resolved his past tax issues.
So this is where it should be: a private citizen with a tax payment problem. BFD.

Would you be at fault or have anything to do with your children not filing their taxes, even if you put up the money to pay their obligation? I know I wouldn’t be if my kids were the ones who didn’t pay.
Given the duration & size of the "tax problem", the foreign sources of revenue, the access to the VP, & govt complicity in covering it up, it is a BFD.

"My fault" would depend on whether or not my kid was monetizing access to me & funneling any part of the proceeds to me.
I'd use my access, influence & resources to ensure that he filed & paid his taxes, especially if I was keeping open the possibility of my own political future.
How would a parent use their influence and resources to ensure their adult kid paid his/her taxes? How do yo do that?
ask your friend you just spoke with this well, that’s doing it? 😉
Old Salt put it out there. I want to hear his response.
Stop taking his phone calls when he's influence peddling. Stop dragging him along on AF2 for business trips. Don't let the Secret Service try to recover his gun.
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Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

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old salt wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 10:11 pm They did open a case. They just didn't leak it to the media.
Really? FBi opened a full investigation into Joe Biden? When did that happen?
old salt wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 10:11 pm Wray's not in charge. It's DoJ's (Weiss) case.
No. Weiss is ONLY in charge of the Hunter Tax case. That's it.

This is what I mean by moving the goalposts. You keep changing what we're discussing.

Right now? We're talking about your current conspiracy theory that Joe Biden took money from Hunter's exploits, and the DoJ and FBI intentionally, and with malice, covered it up....and didn't go after Joe.

To my point: Wray can open a case on Joe anytime he wants to....he doesn't need your or my permission to do so.
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Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

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old salt wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 10:18 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:30 pm
youthathletics wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:07 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:05 pm
old salt wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 4:46 pm
SCLaxAttack wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:10 am
old salt wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 10:32 pm
a fan wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 10:07 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 9:30 pm
a fan wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 11:44 pm
old salt wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 9:37 pm What makes you think this reached Barr's level ?
Your citation is making that claim, OS. How the F is this alleged corruption happening when A. Trump is head of the Exec Branch, and B. Wray, Barr, and Weiss are all freakin' Trump appointees? and C. Biden isn't even POTUS

Do you honestly not understand how stupid this is? How the F does Joe Biden cover something up, when he's sunning himself in Delaware, and isn't the freaking POTUS? THESE ARE ALL TRUMP"S PEOPLE. What part of that don't you get?

These are idiots trying to get you to click on every half-a**sed conspiracy they can come up with......stop falling for this sh(t.

This conspiracy cannot exist without gross incompetence---or conspiracy------ on the part of Barr, Wray, and dozens of Trump's people.

You wanna pin it on them for being THAT bad at their jobs? Fine by me.
Barr has spoken on what he knew when he left office. I gave you the CSPAN source. Nothing has come out since citing his first hand involvement.
Individuals named have been further down the chain. By the time Barr departed, it was still just another routine tax case which was being quietly adjudicated between the IRS, DoJ & Hunter's reps. They were protecting Hunter's privacy & giving him a chance to pay up. They were not leaking & making it a political issue with the pending election campaign. Now, you are criticizing Barr for following the DoJ policy which had been trampled in 2016, which was one of the abuses which prompted Barr to come back, so it would not happen again. There was still plenty of time to prosecute if Hunter did not pay up. The case had not become ripe yet within the DoJ, even though the WB's may have been ready to prosecute immediately, despite the DoJ polIcy. The WB's were encountering the embedded resistance within the Fed bureaucracy which Barr also addressed in the CSPAN interview I linked. The first SOL's did not begin to expire until after the Oct 2022 meeting of the WB's with Weiss, which was a reason they asked for the meeting. It's really a weak diversion to try to pin this on Barr. I don't know what Wray knew & when. How far down into the DoJ bureaucracy do you think "Trump's people" existed, especially by the end of his term.
You're moving the goalposts-----constantly----to try and sound rational.

-you have asserted that that both the DoJ and FBI....multiple people in each department....are throwing Hunter's case.
-Then you find out that these problems started way the F back in 2020....when it's simply not possible that this is happening.
-Then you change course, and tell us "oh, no, no-----I'm just worried about the SOL's"
-To which I respond "well then why the F did it take IRS agents between 2 and 5 years to start pulling warrants? (you told me the IRS started in 2015)
-to which you have no response, get frustrated, and then yell at me that I"m trying to pin YOUR conspiracy, not mine, on Barr.


I"m simply trying to tell you that the logic you are using for your conspiracies---that, yet again, you're simply pulling out of your RightWingClickbait feed------makes no sense.

You say you want a conversation...that's what this is. Your assertions don't hold water. I'm here to easily refute them. If Weiss, Wray, or Barr nailed Joe Biden for corruptIon? You and your buds would throw them the biggest parade in history, correct? And yet? They found nothing. Not even enough to open an investigation.

The ONLY part that ain't full on bananas? You want to ask Weiss why the SOL's ran out. That's fine. Perfectly reasonable question, and he'll answer that question if you can simply play the game you play when R's aren't involved "oh, i'm waiting to see how this plays out".

Well? Do that. Do that with Weiss, and move on. There is no larger conspiracy, sorry. Not without Barr and Wray either suck(ng REALLY BAD at their jobs (possible), or being "in on it". But because of that magic little R, you are mentally incapable of considering that maybe Barr and Wray aren't that great at their jobs.

I'm not saying that they are.....I'm saying yep, that's possible.
Moving goal posts ? During the course of our discussion on this issue, more & more information has emerged, & will continue to emerge.

Yes. Weiss CAN answer the SOL question & also why Hunter hasn't been charged yet, after the plea deal blew up, ...but he's not answering & likely won't before the election, now that he's been elevated to SC.

Most tax cases don't require warrants or grand juries.

Barr stayed true to the DoJ policy. This did not leak before the election.

The fact remains -- Hunter has still not resolved his past tax issues.
So this is where it should be: a private citizen with a tax payment problem. BFD.

Would you be at fault or have anything to do with your children not filing their taxes, even if you put up the money to pay their obligation? I know I wouldn’t be if my kids were the ones who didn’t pay.
Given the duration & size of the "tax problem", the foreign sources of revenue, the access to the VP, & govt complicity in covering it up, it is a BFD.

"My fault" would depend on whether or not my kid was monetizing access to me & funneling any part of the proceeds to me.
I'd use my access, influence & resources to ensure that he filed & paid his taxes, especially if I was keeping open the possibility of my own political future.
How would a parent use their influence and resources to ensure their adult kid paid his/her taxes? How do yo do that?
ask your friend you just spoke with this well, that’s doing it? 😉
Old Salt put it out there. I want to hear his response.
Stop taking his phone calls when he's influence peddling. Stop dragging him along on AF2 for business trips. Don't let the Secret Service try to recover his gun.
How is that using your access, influence and resources to get your adult child to pay his taxes?
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Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 10:26 pm
old salt wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 10:18 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:30 pm
youthathletics wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:07 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:05 pm
old salt wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 4:46 pm
SCLaxAttack wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:10 am
old salt wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 10:32 pm
a fan wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 10:07 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 9:30 pm
a fan wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 11:44 pm
old salt wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 9:37 pm What makes you think this reached Barr's level ?
Your citation is making that claim, OS. How the F is this alleged corruption happening when A. Trump is head of the Exec Branch, and B. Wray, Barr, and Weiss are all freakin' Trump appointees? and C. Biden isn't even POTUS

Do you honestly not understand how stupid this is? How the F does Joe Biden cover something up, when he's sunning himself in Delaware, and isn't the freaking POTUS? THESE ARE ALL TRUMP"S PEOPLE. What part of that don't you get?

These are idiots trying to get you to click on every half-a**sed conspiracy they can come up with......stop falling for this sh(t.

This conspiracy cannot exist without gross incompetence---or conspiracy------ on the part of Barr, Wray, and dozens of Trump's people.

You wanna pin it on them for being THAT bad at their jobs? Fine by me.
Barr has spoken on what he knew when he left office. I gave you the CSPAN source. Nothing has come out since citing his first hand involvement.
Individuals named have been further down the chain. By the time Barr departed, it was still just another routine tax case which was being quietly adjudicated between the IRS, DoJ & Hunter's reps. They were protecting Hunter's privacy & giving him a chance to pay up. They were not leaking & making it a political issue with the pending election campaign. Now, you are criticizing Barr for following the DoJ policy which had been trampled in 2016, which was one of the abuses which prompted Barr to come back, so it would not happen again. There was still plenty of time to prosecute if Hunter did not pay up. The case had not become ripe yet within the DoJ, even though the WB's may have been ready to prosecute immediately, despite the DoJ polIcy. The WB's were encountering the embedded resistance within the Fed bureaucracy which Barr also addressed in the CSPAN interview I linked. The first SOL's did not begin to expire until after the Oct 2022 meeting of the WB's with Weiss, which was a reason they asked for the meeting. It's really a weak diversion to try to pin this on Barr. I don't know what Wray knew & when. How far down into the DoJ bureaucracy do you think "Trump's people" existed, especially by the end of his term.
You're moving the goalposts-----constantly----to try and sound rational.

-you have asserted that that both the DoJ and FBI....multiple people in each department....are throwing Hunter's case.
-Then you find out that these problems started way the F back in 2020....when it's simply not possible that this is happening.
-Then you change course, and tell us "oh, no, no-----I'm just worried about the SOL's"
-To which I respond "well then why the F did it take IRS agents between 2 and 5 years to start pulling warrants? (you told me the IRS started in 2015)
-to which you have no response, get frustrated, and then yell at me that I"m trying to pin YOUR conspiracy, not mine, on Barr.


I"m simply trying to tell you that the logic you are using for your conspiracies---that, yet again, you're simply pulling out of your RightWingClickbait feed------makes no sense.

You say you want a conversation...that's what this is. Your assertions don't hold water. I'm here to easily refute them. If Weiss, Wray, or Barr nailed Joe Biden for corruptIon? You and your buds would throw them the biggest parade in history, correct? And yet? They found nothing. Not even enough to open an investigation.

The ONLY part that ain't full on bananas? You want to ask Weiss why the SOL's ran out. That's fine. Perfectly reasonable question, and he'll answer that question if you can simply play the game you play when R's aren't involved "oh, i'm waiting to see how this plays out".

Well? Do that. Do that with Weiss, and move on. There is no larger conspiracy, sorry. Not without Barr and Wray either suck(ng REALLY BAD at their jobs (possible), or being "in on it". But because of that magic little R, you are mentally incapable of considering that maybe Barr and Wray aren't that great at their jobs.

I'm not saying that they are.....I'm saying yep, that's possible.
Moving goal posts ? During the course of our discussion on this issue, more & more information has emerged, & will continue to emerge.

Yes. Weiss CAN answer the SOL question & also why Hunter hasn't been charged yet, after the plea deal blew up, ...but he's not answering & likely won't before the election, now that he's been elevated to SC.

Most tax cases don't require warrants or grand juries.

Barr stayed true to the DoJ policy. This did not leak before the election.

The fact remains -- Hunter has still not resolved his past tax issues.
So this is where it should be: a private citizen with a tax payment problem. BFD.

Would you be at fault or have anything to do with your children not filing their taxes, even if you put up the money to pay their obligation? I know I wouldn’t be if my kids were the ones who didn’t pay.
Given the duration & size of the "tax problem", the foreign sources of revenue, the access to the VP, & govt complicity in covering it up, it is a BFD.

"My fault" would depend on whether or not my kid was monetizing access to me & funneling any part of the proceeds to me.
I'd use my access, influence & resources to ensure that he filed & paid his taxes, especially if I was keeping open the possibility of my own political future.
How would a parent use their influence and resources to ensure their adult kid paid his/her taxes? How do yo do that?
ask your friend you just spoke with this well, that’s doing it? 😉
Old Salt put it out there. I want to hear his response.
Stop taking his phone calls when he's influence peddling. Stop dragging him along on AF2 for business trips. Don't let the Secret Service try to recover his gun.
How is that using your access, influence and resources to get your adult child to pay his taxes?
Threaten to cut him out, stopping the source of his income.
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Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

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a fan wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 10:25 pm
old salt wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 10:11 pm They did open a case. They just didn't leak it to the media.
Really? FBi opened a full investigation into Joe Biden? When did that happen?
old salt wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 10:11 pm Wray's not in charge. It's DoJ's (Weiss) case.
No. Weiss is ONLY in charge of the Hunter Tax case. That's it.

This is what I mean by moving the goalposts. You keep changing what we're discussing.

Right now? We're talking about your current conspiracy theory that Joe Biden took money from Hunter's exploits, and the DoJ and FBI intentionally, and with malice, covered it up....and didn't go after Joe.

To my point: Wray can open a case on Joe anytime he wants to....he doesn't need your or my permission to do so.
I've been talking about Hunter. I answered a specific question from SC about how it applied to Joe. Try to keep up.
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Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

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old salt wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 10:31 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 10:26 pm
old salt wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 10:18 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:30 pm
youthathletics wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:07 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:05 pm
old salt wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 4:46 pm
SCLaxAttack wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:10 am
old salt wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 10:32 pm
a fan wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 10:07 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 9:30 pm
a fan wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 11:44 pm
old salt wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 9:37 pm What makes you think this reached Barr's level ?
Your citation is making that claim, OS. How the F is this alleged corruption happening when A. Trump is head of the Exec Branch, and B. Wray, Barr, and Weiss are all freakin' Trump appointees? and C. Biden isn't even POTUS

Do you honestly not understand how stupid this is? How the F does Joe Biden cover something up, when he's sunning himself in Delaware, and isn't the freaking POTUS? THESE ARE ALL TRUMP"S PEOPLE. What part of that don't you get?

These are idiots trying to get you to click on every half-a**sed conspiracy they can come up with......stop falling for this sh(t.

This conspiracy cannot exist without gross incompetence---or conspiracy------ on the part of Barr, Wray, and dozens of Trump's people.

You wanna pin it on them for being THAT bad at their jobs? Fine by me.
Barr has spoken on what he knew when he left office. I gave you the CSPAN source. Nothing has come out since citing his first hand involvement.
Individuals named have been further down the chain. By the time Barr departed, it was still just another routine tax case which was being quietly adjudicated between the IRS, DoJ & Hunter's reps. They were protecting Hunter's privacy & giving him a chance to pay up. They were not leaking & making it a political issue with the pending election campaign. Now, you are criticizing Barr for following the DoJ policy which had been trampled in 2016, which was one of the abuses which prompted Barr to come back, so it would not happen again. There was still plenty of time to prosecute if Hunter did not pay up. The case had not become ripe yet within the DoJ, even though the WB's may have been ready to prosecute immediately, despite the DoJ polIcy. The WB's were encountering the embedded resistance within the Fed bureaucracy which Barr also addressed in the CSPAN interview I linked. The first SOL's did not begin to expire until after the Oct 2022 meeting of the WB's with Weiss, which was a reason they asked for the meeting. It's really a weak diversion to try to pin this on Barr. I don't know what Wray knew & when. How far down into the DoJ bureaucracy do you think "Trump's people" existed, especially by the end of his term.
You're moving the goalposts-----constantly----to try and sound rational.

-you have asserted that that both the DoJ and FBI....multiple people in each department....are throwing Hunter's case.
-Then you find out that these problems started way the F back in 2020....when it's simply not possible that this is happening.
-Then you change course, and tell us "oh, no, no-----I'm just worried about the SOL's"
-To which I respond "well then why the F did it take IRS agents between 2 and 5 years to start pulling warrants? (you told me the IRS started in 2015)
-to which you have no response, get frustrated, and then yell at me that I"m trying to pin YOUR conspiracy, not mine, on Barr.


I"m simply trying to tell you that the logic you are using for your conspiracies---that, yet again, you're simply pulling out of your RightWingClickbait feed------makes no sense.

You say you want a conversation...that's what this is. Your assertions don't hold water. I'm here to easily refute them. If Weiss, Wray, or Barr nailed Joe Biden for corruptIon? You and your buds would throw them the biggest parade in history, correct? And yet? They found nothing. Not even enough to open an investigation.

The ONLY part that ain't full on bananas? You want to ask Weiss why the SOL's ran out. That's fine. Perfectly reasonable question, and he'll answer that question if you can simply play the game you play when R's aren't involved "oh, i'm waiting to see how this plays out".

Well? Do that. Do that with Weiss, and move on. There is no larger conspiracy, sorry. Not without Barr and Wray either suck(ng REALLY BAD at their jobs (possible), or being "in on it". But because of that magic little R, you are mentally incapable of considering that maybe Barr and Wray aren't that great at their jobs.

I'm not saying that they are.....I'm saying yep, that's possible.
Moving goal posts ? During the course of our discussion on this issue, more & more information has emerged, & will continue to emerge.

Yes. Weiss CAN answer the SOL question & also why Hunter hasn't been charged yet, after the plea deal blew up, ...but he's not answering & likely won't before the election, now that he's been elevated to SC.

Most tax cases don't require warrants or grand juries.

Barr stayed true to the DoJ policy. This did not leak before the election.

The fact remains -- Hunter has still not resolved his past tax issues.
So this is where it should be: a private citizen with a tax payment problem. BFD.

Would you be at fault or have anything to do with your children not filing their taxes, even if you put up the money to pay their obligation? I know I wouldn’t be if my kids were the ones who didn’t pay.
Given the duration & size of the "tax problem", the foreign sources of revenue, the access to the VP, & govt complicity in covering it up, it is a BFD.

"My fault" would depend on whether or not my kid was monetizing access to me & funneling any part of the proceeds to me.
I'd use my access, influence & resources to ensure that he filed & paid his taxes, especially if I was keeping open the possibility of my own political future.
How would a parent use their influence and resources to ensure their adult kid paid his/her taxes? How do yo do that?
ask your friend you just spoke with this well, that’s doing it? 😉
Old Salt put it out there. I want to hear his response.
Stop taking his phone calls when he's influence peddling. Stop dragging him along on AF2 for business trips. Don't let the Secret Service try to recover his gun.
How is that using your access, influence and resources to get your adult child to pay his taxes?
Threaten to cut him out, stopping the source of his income.
And your advice would make sense, except you don't give this same advice to Trump's boys. You cheer on their literal malfeasance.

And hold Joe and Hunter to a higher standard. You do this over, and over, and over......
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old salt wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 10:33 pm I've been talking about Hunter. I answered a specific question from SC about how it applied to Joe. Try to keep up.
Nope. You cited an OPED claiming corruption in the DoJ and FBI, and citing an informant talking about payments to Joe.

Keep up.
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Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

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old salt wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 10:31 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 10:26 pm
old salt wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 10:18 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:30 pm
youthathletics wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:07 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:05 pm
old salt wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 4:46 pm
SCLaxAttack wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:10 am
old salt wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 10:32 pm
a fan wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 10:07 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 9:30 pm
a fan wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 11:44 pm
old salt wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 9:37 pm What makes you think this reached Barr's level ?
Your citation is making that claim, OS. How the F is this alleged corruption happening when A. Trump is head of the Exec Branch, and B. Wray, Barr, and Weiss are all freakin' Trump appointees? and C. Biden isn't even POTUS

Do you honestly not understand how stupid this is? How the F does Joe Biden cover something up, when he's sunning himself in Delaware, and isn't the freaking POTUS? THESE ARE ALL TRUMP"S PEOPLE. What part of that don't you get?

These are idiots trying to get you to click on every half-a**sed conspiracy they can come up with......stop falling for this sh(t.

This conspiracy cannot exist without gross incompetence---or conspiracy------ on the part of Barr, Wray, and dozens of Trump's people.

You wanna pin it on them for being THAT bad at their jobs? Fine by me.
Barr has spoken on what he knew when he left office. I gave you the CSPAN source. Nothing has come out since citing his first hand involvement.
Individuals named have been further down the chain. By the time Barr departed, it was still just another routine tax case which was being quietly adjudicated between the IRS, DoJ & Hunter's reps. They were protecting Hunter's privacy & giving him a chance to pay up. They were not leaking & making it a political issue with the pending election campaign. Now, you are criticizing Barr for following the DoJ policy which had been trampled in 2016, which was one of the abuses which prompted Barr to come back, so it would not happen again. There was still plenty of time to prosecute if Hunter did not pay up. The case had not become ripe yet within the DoJ, even though the WB's may have been ready to prosecute immediately, despite the DoJ polIcy. The WB's were encountering the embedded resistance within the Fed bureaucracy which Barr also addressed in the CSPAN interview I linked. The first SOL's did not begin to expire until after the Oct 2022 meeting of the WB's with Weiss, which was a reason they asked for the meeting. It's really a weak diversion to try to pin this on Barr. I don't know what Wray knew & when. How far down into the DoJ bureaucracy do you think "Trump's people" existed, especially by the end of his term.
You're moving the goalposts-----constantly----to try and sound rational.

-you have asserted that that both the DoJ and FBI....multiple people in each department....are throwing Hunter's case.
-Then you find out that these problems started way the F back in 2020....when it's simply not possible that this is happening.
-Then you change course, and tell us "oh, no, no-----I'm just worried about the SOL's"
-To which I respond "well then why the F did it take IRS agents between 2 and 5 years to start pulling warrants? (you told me the IRS started in 2015)
-to which you have no response, get frustrated, and then yell at me that I"m trying to pin YOUR conspiracy, not mine, on Barr.


I"m simply trying to tell you that the logic you are using for your conspiracies---that, yet again, you're simply pulling out of your RightWingClickbait feed------makes no sense.

You say you want a conversation...that's what this is. Your assertions don't hold water. I'm here to easily refute them. If Weiss, Wray, or Barr nailed Joe Biden for corruptIon? You and your buds would throw them the biggest parade in history, correct? And yet? They found nothing. Not even enough to open an investigation.

The ONLY part that ain't full on bananas? You want to ask Weiss why the SOL's ran out. That's fine. Perfectly reasonable question, and he'll answer that question if you can simply play the game you play when R's aren't involved "oh, i'm waiting to see how this plays out".

Well? Do that. Do that with Weiss, and move on. There is no larger conspiracy, sorry. Not without Barr and Wray either suck(ng REALLY BAD at their jobs (possible), or being "in on it". But because of that magic little R, you are mentally incapable of considering that maybe Barr and Wray aren't that great at their jobs.

I'm not saying that they are.....I'm saying yep, that's possible.
Moving goal posts ? During the course of our discussion on this issue, more & more information has emerged, & will continue to emerge.

Yes. Weiss CAN answer the SOL question & also why Hunter hasn't been charged yet, after the plea deal blew up, ...but he's not answering & likely won't before the election, now that he's been elevated to SC.

Most tax cases don't require warrants or grand juries.

Barr stayed true to the DoJ policy. This did not leak before the election.

The fact remains -- Hunter has still not resolved his past tax issues.
So this is where it should be: a private citizen with a tax payment problem. BFD.

Would you be at fault or have anything to do with your children not filing their taxes, even if you put up the money to pay their obligation? I know I wouldn’t be if my kids were the ones who didn’t pay.
Given the duration & size of the "tax problem", the foreign sources of revenue, the access to the VP, & govt complicity in covering it up, it is a BFD.

"My fault" would depend on whether or not my kid was monetizing access to me & funneling any part of the proceeds to me.
I'd use my access, influence & resources to ensure that he filed & paid his taxes, especially if I was keeping open the possibility of my own political future.
How would a parent use their influence and resources to ensure their adult kid paid his/her taxes? How do yo do that?
ask your friend you just spoke with this well, that’s doing it? 😉
Old Salt put it out there. I want to hear his response.
Stop taking his phone calls when he's influence peddling. Stop dragging him along on AF2 for business trips. Don't let the Secret Service try to recover his gun.
How is that using your access, influence and resources to get your adult child to pay his taxes?
Threaten to cut him out, stopping the source of his income.
What does that have to do with using your access, influence and resources to make sure your child pays his taxes? Who are you accessing? Who would you influence to get your child to do something you want him/her to do?
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Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

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a fan wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 10:36 pm
old salt wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 10:33 pm I've been talking about Hunter. I answered a specific question from SC about how it applied to Joe. Try to keep up.
Nope. You cited an OPED claiming corruption in the DoJ and FBI, and citing an informant talking about payments to Joe.

Keep up.
...as part of the Hunter investigation/case.
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