It's indeed a tough tradeoff. Biden opted, as did Obama, to send "boot's" to be sure they got their target and to reduce likelihood civilian casualties.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 8:11 amSo what was the reason for risking our forces in the first place? We put boots on the ground risking their lives so they could watch the bad guy blow up his own family. We could have accomplished the same thing with a well placed guided bomb. Didn't Joe pay any attention to how his former boss did it for 8 years? If you aren't concerned about collateral damage that is the way to go. Your not asking the pertinent question MD, why did this operation require boots on the ground and putting our best SO people at risk? Your only concern is patting Joe on the back and saying ATTABOY Joe. One well placed smart bomb would have achieved the same result.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 9:45 pmok, so not Kismet though...you're just agreeing that it's ridiculous to turn everything into a partisan battle.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 4:32 pmNo, that's my response to Kismet's comment.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 1:02 pmseriously?kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 12:59 pmIt's true. The shouting of an "illegal attack" and grieving over "good guy" Soliemani was loud around here.
That's your response to this successful action?
Partisan baloney? cuz, the other side does it?
BTW, I don't recall ANYONE saying positive things about Soleimani.
Why exaggerate?
No exaggeration needed. Here was some of the response to Trump/Soleimani situation:
A couple jokes:
And, a couple more serious:
Brooklyn wrote: ↑Tue Dec 29, 2020 10:44 am Treasonous reich wing America haters rejoiced at the death of General Qassem Soleimani. This came as no surprised given that he was ISIS's and Sunni terrorism's biggest enemy. The delusional traitors who hate America, the cause for peace, and who strive for regional instability rub their hands with orgasmic glee at any news that promotes their profitable wars. One piece of garbage they spew nowadays is the fairy tale that Iranians want war with the USA. Contrary to the endless lies and propaganda spewed by the American Der Stürmer news media, Iranians are not at all enthused about such an unhappy prospect:
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Iran has been fighting with Sunni domestic terrorism for decades. It was Soleimani who had put down so much of their violent dissent. Traitor tRUMP's decision to have him murdered lessened Iran's success in fighting terrorism and caused more instability in the region. Small wonder why reichsters in the USA celebrated his death. Let's hope that Biden will employ diplomacy and common sense that Hitlerian tRUMP refused to do so that peace can prevail in the region.jhu72 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:10 pm
The decision to kill Soleimani
Reading the article if the timeline is correct, there is no way Trump considered for even one second some special new intel signaling anything imminent. Just more lies and BS from these liars.
One Dem is now claiming they were debriefed today by Pence. Useless as teats on a bull. The democrats will be holding hearings of the intel community. They will find there was no new intel.
Trump is a war criminal - his actions were outside the law.
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As rocket attacks against U.S. bases in Iraq intensified over the last two months, the president had granted the Pentagon extraordinary latitude: The U.S. military had his permission to kill Soleimani the next time it had an opportunity to do so, according to a senior defense official who was not authorized to speak on the record.
The article made no mention of a requirement to only take him out if there was an imminent threat. Soleimani green lighted lots of attacks IN THE PAST! There is zero current evidence he had ordered anything that was imminent. No one believable has been shown proof of imminent threat! Nothing but trust me from liars.
Frankly it is not going to matter. No one is going to do anything about Trump being a war criminal, other than the Iranians who will kill Americans regardless of crime or not, they don't care either.
Enjoy the body bags.
Might want to just say way to go America (and Biden) on this one.
Try it, it doesn't actually hurt.
Both of those actions were successful.
Got the bad guy (really, really bad guy) and no civilians (we think) were killed by Americans...just by the bad guy.
But certainly risked American lives.