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gymman1031 wrote: ↑Sun May 22, 2022 1:13 pm Word is that John Galloway said no to Providence(where he was an assistant). Do you think he sticks it out at Jacksonville for a bit longer and waits to see what happens regarding Gary Gait at SU? Could SU be John's dream job?

UO22 wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 11:25 am

gymman1031 wrote: ↑Sun May 22, 2022 1:13 pm Word is that John Galloway said no to Providence(where he was an assistant). Do you think he sticks it out at Jacksonville for a bit longer and waits to see what happens regarding Gary Gait at SU? Could SU be John's dream job?

I think JG would only leave Jax for "Cuse. Maybe Duke, but Dino's has groomed Matt for the job.

OCanada wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 12:53 pm JG would have left for another team had it been offered

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 12:26 pm

UO22 wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 11:25 am

gymman1031 wrote: ↑Sun May 22, 2022 1:13 pm Word is that John Galloway said no to Providence(where he was an assistant). Do you think he sticks it out at Jacksonville for a bit longer and waits to see what happens regarding Gary Gait at SU? Could SU be John's dream job?

I think JG would only leave Jax for "Cuse. Maybe Duke, but Dino's has groomed Matt for the job.

Just because he groomed Matt doesn’t mean that’s a lock. I suspect many Duke constituents wouldn’t be happy ultimately if he’s handed the keys there (at the time of the succession and post transition)

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 12:26 pm

UO22 wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 11:25 am

gymman1031 wrote: ↑Sun May 22, 2022 1:13 pm Word is that John Galloway said no to Providence(where he was an assistant). Do you think he sticks it out at Jacksonville for a bit longer and waits to see what happens regarding Gary Gait at SU? Could SU be John's dream job?

I think JG would only leave Jax for "Cuse. Maybe Duke, but Dino's has groomed Matt for the job.

Just because he groomed Matt doesn’t mean that’s a lock. I suspect many Duke constituents wouldn’t be happy ultimately if he’s handed the keys there (at the time of the succession and post transition)

HooDat wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 10:08 am

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 12:26 pm

UO22 wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 11:25 am

gymman1031 wrote: ↑Sun May 22, 2022 1:13 pm Word is that John Galloway said no to Providence(where he was an assistant). Do you think he sticks it out at Jacksonville for a bit longer and waits to see what happens regarding Gary Gait at SU? Could SU be John's dream job?

I think JG would only leave Jax for "Cuse. Maybe Duke, but Dino's has groomed Matt for the job.

Just because he groomed Matt doesn’t mean that’s a lock. I suspect many Duke constituents wouldn’t be happy ultimately if he’s handed the keys there (at the time of the succession and post transition)

I can't imagine Duke would hire Matt to replace his dad. If Caputo hasn't been promised the spot, I can't figure out why he is still there? Although there are plenty of great coaches who like the top assistant role more than the head coach's chair.

1766 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 12:25 pm

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 12:26 pm

UO22 wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 11:25 am

gymman1031 wrote: ↑Sun May 22, 2022 1:13 pm Word is that John Galloway said no to Providence(where he was an assistant). Do you think he sticks it out at Jacksonville for a bit longer and waits to see what happens regarding Gary Gait at SU? Could SU be John's dream job?

I think JG would only leave Jax for "Cuse. Maybe Duke, but Dino's has groomed Matt for the job.

Just because he groomed Matt doesn’t mean that’s a lock. I suspect many Duke constituents wouldn’t be happy ultimately if he’s handed the keys there (at the time of the succession and post transition)

I can tell you there was real discussions with Dino about him taking over at Rutgers before Brecht. There were some stipulations he was making. One that was non negotiable was his son taking over when he retires.

1766 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 12:25 pm

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 12:26 pm

UO22 wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 11:25 am

gymman1031 wrote: ↑Sun May 22, 2022 1:13 pm Word is that John Galloway said no to Providence(where he was an assistant). Do you think he sticks it out at Jacksonville for a bit longer and waits to see what happens regarding Gary Gait at SU? Could SU be John's dream job?

I think JG would only leave Jax for "Cuse. Maybe Duke, but Dino's has groomed Matt for the job.

Just because he groomed Matt doesn’t mean that’s a lock. I suspect many Duke constituents wouldn’t be happy ultimately if he’s handed the keys there (at the time of the succession and post transition)

I can tell you there was real discussions with Dino about him taking over at Rutgers before Brecht. There were some stipulations he was making. One that was non negotiable was his son taking over when he retires.

HooDat wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 10:08 am

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 12:26 pm

UO22 wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 11:25 am

gymman1031 wrote: ↑Sun May 22, 2022 1:13 pm Word is that John Galloway said no to Providence(where he was an assistant). Do you think he sticks it out at Jacksonville for a bit longer and waits to see what happens regarding Gary Gait at SU? Could SU be John's dream job?

I think JG would only leave Jax for "Cuse. Maybe Duke, but Dino's has groomed Matt for the job.

Just because he groomed Matt doesn’t mean that’s a lock. I suspect many Duke constituents wouldn’t be happy ultimately if he’s handed the keys there (at the time of the succession and post transition)

I can't imagine Duke would hire Matt to replace his dad. If Caputo hasn't been promised the spot, I can't figure out why he is still there? Although there are plenty of great coaches who like the top assistant role more than the head coach's chair.

1766 wrote: ↑Tue May 03, 2022 6:58 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Tue May 03, 2022 6:15 pm

1766 wrote: ↑Tue May 03, 2022 2:36 pm

BigTom5 wrote: ↑Tue May 03, 2022 2:00 pm

joewillie78 wrote: ↑Tue May 03, 2022 11:12 am

lorin wrote: ↑Tue May 03, 2022 10:02 am

BigTom5 wrote: ↑Tue May 03, 2022 8:59 am

joewillie78 wrote: ↑Tue May 03, 2022 8:49 am Holy Crap. The 2nd wave of under armour AA selections for the game this Summer just came out and 4 of the 11 are Syracuse recruits.

Add this to the first wave that of course included #1 recruit Joey Spillane.

This game has basically turned into a Syracuse scrimmage.

Syracuse has to have the greatest recruiting class ever, and only Alabama in football can come close to this. WOW.

Clearly Syracuse in the near future will have the #1 team in the country. Glad they play us here at the Kopf next year so we get to see all these great kids on the field together.
GOBIGRED
Joewillie78

I’ll have what he’s having! Cuse is a dumpster fire right now. To say they will be back on top in the near future is crazy talk. Sure they have a great recruiting class coming in, but so do the top schools that they need to make up A LOT of ground on. And those schools don’t have top talent transferring out, they have top talent transferring in.

HS and D1 are a different animal, let’s wait and see. Didn’t UNC have the # 1 class this year

Big difference between #1 class and this other worldly class the Cuse has coming in. My god, I look at this class and they have like the #1 or #2 guy at almost every position.

Again, I compare this class to a Top ALABAMA class in football.

GOBIGRED
Joewillie78

Let’s take a look..

Attack: 1. Spallina (Cuse) 2. Pietramala (UNC)
Midfield: 1. Terenzi (UVA) 2. Weisshaar (Towson)
FO: 1. Eldridge (UVA) 2 Cascadden (Cornell)
Defense: 1. Schaller (UMd) 2. Larkin (UMd)
Goalie: 1. Blind (Harvard) 2. Ricciardelli (ND)

So no, they don’t have one of the top two recruits at each position. I’m in agreement that they probably have the #1 class overall, but it’s not head and shoulders above say a UVA class that has 3 top 10 recruits to Cuse’s 1, and it’s definitely not the once in a generation class you make it out to be.

… and even if it is, this team will probably still not make a final four anytime soon unless they stack multiple classes and/or fill more gaps with the transfer portal.

I'd wager a lot of money that 5 years from now 50% of that list isn't in the top 10 at their position.

You can bank it.

From what I have seen, Spallina is a great talent. Will he live up to the hype? It's becoming almost impossible to. Much like Brennan Oneill, who is a wonderful player but he was being talked about like the greatest ever. At some point the hype is outpacing ability. It's no knock on these kids but hype sells. At some point you have to play though.

I have no doubt Spallina will be a very productive college player. I would say the same for Larkin. Those would be my two picks most likely to be one the tops of their position while in college. From there it's a crapshoot.

Below is the 2018 Top 100 List. Take the top 10. Makar and Bowen are the only ones to have lived up to their billing. It would seem this is a common theme. Lots changes from the ages of 16-22.

https://www.insidelacrosse.com/recruiting/rankinglist/2

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 12:50 pm

1766 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 12:25 pm

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 12:26 pm

UO22 wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 11:25 am

gymman1031 wrote: ↑Sun May 22, 2022 1:13 pm Word is that John Galloway said no to Providence(where he was an assistant). Do you think he sticks it out at Jacksonville for a bit longer and waits to see what happens regarding Gary Gait at SU? Could SU be John's dream job?

I think JG would only leave Jax for "Cuse. Maybe Duke, but Dino's has groomed Matt for the job.

Just because he groomed Matt doesn’t mean that’s a lock. I suspect many Duke constituents wouldn’t be happy ultimately if he’s handed the keys there (at the time of the succession and post transition)

I can tell you there was real discussions with Dino about him taking over at Rutgers before Brecht. There were some stipulations he was making. One that was non negotiable was his son taking over when he retires.

That wouldn’t be very real to me in that any quality professional in any sector of the world is open to having a conversation but that’s kind of a throwaway ask. Especially when talking about a decade ago. Not very serious.

NElaxtalent wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 6:30 pm

1766 wrote: ↑Tue May 03, 2022 6:58 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Tue May 03, 2022 6:15 pm

1766 wrote: ↑Tue May 03, 2022 2:36 pm

BigTom5 wrote: ↑Tue May 03, 2022 2:00 pm

joewillie78 wrote: ↑Tue May 03, 2022 11:12 am

lorin wrote: ↑Tue May 03, 2022 10:02 am

BigTom5 wrote: ↑Tue May 03, 2022 8:59 am

joewillie78 wrote: ↑Tue May 03, 2022 8:49 am Holy Crap. The 2nd wave of under armour AA selections for the game this Summer just came out and 4 of the 11 are Syracuse recruits.

Add this to the first wave that of course included #1 recruit Joey Spillane.

This game has basically turned into a Syracuse scrimmage.

Syracuse has to have the greatest recruiting class ever, and only Alabama in football can come close to this. WOW.

Clearly Syracuse in the near future will have the #1 team in the country. Glad they play us here at the Kopf next year so we get to see all these great kids on the field together.
GOBIGRED
Joewillie78

I’ll have what he’s having! Cuse is a dumpster fire right now. To say they will be back on top in the near future is crazy talk. Sure they have a great recruiting class coming in, but so do the top schools that they need to make up A LOT of ground on. And those schools don’t have top talent transferring out, they have top talent transferring in.

HS and D1 are a different animal, let’s wait and see. Didn’t UNC have the # 1 class this year

Big difference between #1 class and this other worldly class the Cuse has coming in. My god, I look at this class and they have like the #1 or #2 guy at almost every position.

Again, I compare this class to a Top ALABAMA class in football.

GOBIGRED
Joewillie78

Let’s take a look..

Attack: 1. Spallina (Cuse) 2. Pietramala (UNC)
Midfield: 1. Terenzi (UVA) 2. Weisshaar (Towson)
FO: 1. Eldridge (UVA) 2 Cascadden (Cornell)
Defense: 1. Schaller (UMd) 2. Larkin (UMd)
Goalie: 1. Blind (Harvard) 2. Ricciardelli (ND)

So no, they don’t have one of the top two recruits at each position. I’m in agreement that they probably have the #1 class overall, but it’s not head and shoulders above say a UVA class that has 3 top 10 recruits to Cuse’s 1, and it’s definitely not the once in a generation class you make it out to be.

… and even if it is, this team will probably still not make a final four anytime soon unless they stack multiple classes and/or fill more gaps with the transfer portal.

I'd wager a lot of money that 5 years from now 50% of that list isn't in the top 10 at their position.

You can bank it.

From what I have seen, Spallina is a great talent. Will he live up to the hype? It's becoming almost impossible to. Much like Brennan Oneill, who is a wonderful player but he was being talked about like the greatest ever. At some point the hype is outpacing ability. It's no knock on these kids but hype sells. At some point you have to play though.

I have no doubt Spallina will be a very productive college player. I would say the same for Larkin. Those would be my two picks most likely to be one the tops of their position while in college. From there it's a crapshoot.

Below is the 2018 Top 100 List. Take the top 10. Makar and Bowen are the only ones to have lived up to their billing. It would seem this is a common theme. Lots changes from the ages of 16-22.

https://www.insidelacrosse.com/recruiting/rankinglist/2

Fwiw O'Neil is 10x the impact player of Spallina. Heck Arline was the #2 Att, Spallina was always the "other guy" on that 91 Crush team. Everyone slid FROM him not not TO him.

wgdsr wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 7:13 pm

NElaxtalent wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 6:30 pm

1766 wrote: ↑Tue May 03, 2022 6:58 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Tue May 03, 2022 6:15 pm

1766 wrote: ↑Tue May 03, 2022 2:36 pm

BigTom5 wrote: ↑Tue May 03, 2022 2:00 pm

joewillie78 wrote: ↑Tue May 03, 2022 11:12 am

lorin wrote: ↑Tue May 03, 2022 10:02 am

BigTom5 wrote: ↑Tue May 03, 2022 8:59 am

joewillie78 wrote: ↑Tue May 03, 2022 8:49 am Holy Crap. The 2nd wave of under armour AA selections for the game this Summer just came out and 4 of the 11 are Syracuse recruits.

Add this to the first wave that of course included #1 recruit Joey Spillane.

This game has basically turned into a Syracuse scrimmage.

Syracuse has to have the greatest recruiting class ever, and only Alabama in football can come close to this. WOW.

Clearly Syracuse in the near future will have the #1 team in the country. Glad they play us here at the Kopf next year so we get to see all these great kids on the field together.
GOBIGRED
Joewillie78

I’ll have what he’s having! Cuse is a dumpster fire right now. To say they will be back on top in the near future is crazy talk. Sure they have a great recruiting class coming in, but so do the top schools that they need to make up A LOT of ground on. And those schools don’t have top talent transferring out, they have top talent transferring in.

HS and D1 are a different animal, let’s wait and see. Didn’t UNC have the # 1 class this year

Big difference between #1 class and this other worldly class the Cuse has coming in. My god, I look at this class and they have like the #1 or #2 guy at almost every position.

Again, I compare this class to a Top ALABAMA class in football.

GOBIGRED
Joewillie78

Let’s take a look..

Attack: 1. Spallina (Cuse) 2. Pietramala (UNC)
Midfield: 1. Terenzi (UVA) 2. Weisshaar (Towson)
FO: 1. Eldridge (UVA) 2 Cascadden (Cornell)
Defense: 1. Schaller (UMd) 2. Larkin (UMd)
Goalie: 1. Blind (Harvard) 2. Ricciardelli (ND)

So no, they don’t have one of the top two recruits at each position. I’m in agreement that they probably have the #1 class overall, but it’s not head and shoulders above say a UVA class that has 3 top 10 recruits to Cuse’s 1, and it’s definitely not the once in a generation class you make it out to be.

… and even if it is, this team will probably still not make a final four anytime soon unless they stack multiple classes and/or fill more gaps with the transfer portal.

I'd wager a lot of money that 5 years from now 50% of that list isn't in the top 10 at their position.

You can bank it.

From what I have seen, Spallina is a great talent. Will he live up to the hype? It's becoming almost impossible to. Much like Brennan Oneill, who is a wonderful player but he was being talked about like the greatest ever. At some point the hype is outpacing ability. It's no knock on these kids but hype sells. At some point you have to play though.

I have no doubt Spallina will be a very productive college player. I would say the same for Larkin. Those would be my two picks most likely to be one the tops of their position while in college. From there it's a crapshoot.

Below is the 2018 Top 100 List. Take the top 10. Makar and Bowen are the only ones to have lived up to their billing. It would seem this is a common theme. Lots changes from the ages of 16-22.

https://www.insidelacrosse.com/recruiting/rankinglist/2

Fwiw O'Neil is 10x the impact player of Spallina. Heck Arline was the #2 Att, Spallina was always the "other guy" on that 91 Crush team. Everyone slid FROM him not not TO him.

top 10s are fickle some years, spot on others.
2017 - 6 of top 11 are top 10 at position
2016 - 7 of 10, cole williams not far behind
2015 - 6 of 10
2014 - 3 of 10

spallina was 2 academic years anyway behind o'neill. seen him once. even with all the assists, very ball dominant. not sure how that plays out w the shot clock.

a fan wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 2:53 pm

HooDat wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 10:08 am

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 12:26 pm

UO22 wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 11:25 am

gymman1031 wrote: ↑Sun May 22, 2022 1:13 pm Word is that John Galloway said no to Providence(where he was an assistant). Do you think he sticks it out at Jacksonville for a bit longer and waits to see what happens regarding Gary Gait at SU? Could SU be John's dream job?

I think JG would only leave Jax for "Cuse. Maybe Duke, but Dino's has groomed Matt for the job.

Just because he groomed Matt doesn’t mean that’s a lock. I suspect many Duke constituents wouldn’t be happy ultimately if he’s handed the keys there (at the time of the succession and post transition)

I can't imagine Duke would hire Matt to replace his dad. If Caputo hasn't been promised the spot, I can't figure out why he is still there? Although there are plenty of great coaches who like the top assistant role more than the head coach's chair.

IMHO, the biggest thing that Duke would look at when hiring is obviously off-field behavior. They'll chose that over wins seven days a week, and twice on Sundays.

My opinion, of course.