Svec was a terrible assistant and rotted the culture in geneva as AHC and
then flamed out at Siena. He’s a career assistant now who will make his money in the club and camp circuit.
Svec was a terrible assistant and rotted the culture in geneva as AHC and
Agreed. How about Gabrielli to St. John’s? I’ve always found it odd that when coaches get fired in lacrosse they almost always just stop coaching. That’s rarely the case in other sports. It’s not like he forgot how to coach, perhaps a change of scenery, a guy who know the Big East, and very successfully recruits Long Island isn’t a bad route. Most importantly, he needs a job and St John’s is not going to attract much better than that IMO.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 9:09 amPetro isn’t going to St Johns. They’re getting a cheap assistant most likely.jerseyjames wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 8:33 amLong Island as in the St Johns job, live on the island, commute to Queenspcowlax wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 12:08 amthe island = Rhode Island? Never heard that one before. Buffett wants to back to the island in Tin Cup Chalice but he wasn’t talking about Providence.jerseyjames wrote: ↑Wed May 04, 2022 11:42 pmDocBarrister wrote: ↑Wed May 04, 2022 11:11 pmHow much do those jobs pay compared to say … the OC position at Maryland and the DC position at Syracuse?jerseyjames wrote: ↑Wed May 04, 2022 10:50 pmI think both jobs are decent jobs, obviously Prov more then St. Johns but will attract a very deep pool of candidates. I think will be intersteing to see who is trying to go back home to the island and take interviews with St. Johns, perhaps a Wellner?
Just curious.
DocBarrister
I obviously don't have facts and figures but I definitely feel like Providence will invest, with those facilities how can they not. Plus you can't put a price on quality of life and making the Miss's happy and the fact is lots of coaches want to find their way back to the island especially to run a program.
Not a bad suggestion. Seems like some of his best players like Grillo were from that greater NYC area.InsiderRoll wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 10:15 amAgreed. How about Gabrielli to St. John’s? I’ve always found it odd that when coaches get fired in lacrosse they almost always just stop coaching. That’s rarely the case in other sports. It’s not like he forgot how to coach, perhaps a change of scenery, a guy who know the Big East, and very successfully recruits Long Island isn’t a bad route. Most importantly, he needs a job and St John’s is not going to attract much better than that IMO.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 9:09 amPetro isn’t going to St Johns. They’re getting a cheap assistant most likely.jerseyjames wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 8:33 amLong Island as in the St Johns job, live on the island, commute to Queenspcowlax wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 12:08 amthe island = Rhode Island? Never heard that one before. Buffett wants to back to the island in Tin Cup Chalice but he wasn’t talking about Providence.jerseyjames wrote: ↑Wed May 04, 2022 11:42 pmDocBarrister wrote: ↑Wed May 04, 2022 11:11 pmHow much do those jobs pay compared to say … the OC position at Maryland and the DC position at Syracuse?jerseyjames wrote: ↑Wed May 04, 2022 10:50 pmI think both jobs are decent jobs, obviously Prov more then St. Johns but will attract a very deep pool of candidates. I think will be intersteing to see who is trying to go back home to the island and take interviews with St. Johns, perhaps a Wellner?
Just curious.
DocBarrister
I obviously don't have facts and figures but I definitely feel like Providence will invest, with those facilities how can they not. Plus you can't put a price on quality of life and making the Miss's happy and the fact is lots of coaches want to find their way back to the island especially to run a program.
The campus itself is nice, but there isn't much campus life. 3000 beds with 18000 enrolled turns it into a ghost town in the evenings and weekends. A 3000 student college with 3000 students on/adjacent to campus is a VERY different vibe. All the freshman lax players stay on campus and then get to fight for and find rental houses after that. They are on their own to coordinate that amongst themselves. A couple of bars off campus that don't ask for ID is about all you have for activity. It's mostly residential so there isn't much to do. The school is trying to break out of its history as a locals only commuter college, but it's a long way from it and has a long way to go. They try to sell it as being in the city, but you're an easy hour out with mass transit so the kids don't go to NYC often. No time anyway with the lacrosse commitment. I do think they have a good story to tell, but there is a lot that needs to change. The financial aid offered for HS academic achievement is pretty solid. A new/remodeled team locker room this past winter was a step in that direction.
I never said Petro, I agree no shot in hell would he take that, maybe a Prov if he was interested, but agreed an assistant coach or a retread is most likely for St. Johns, Tim McIntee would be interested?Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 9:09 amNot worth it. Not nearly enough dough. $250k which is probably mad what even Petro could get out of a St. John’s, and that’s unlikely, to live in LI is enough to cover property taxes and have a Christmas buy not that much more. To go try to resurrect a program that didn’t exist 20yrs ago or so and never really had success other than 1-2yrs with McArdle and a transfer (Eric DeJohn from F&M in upstate who transferred from Cuse).jerseyjames wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 8:33 amLong Island as in the St Johns job, live on the island, commute to Queenspcowlax wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 12:08 amthe island = Rhode Island? Never heard that one before. Buffett wants to back to the island in Tin Cup Chalice but he wasn’t talking about Providence.jerseyjames wrote: ↑Wed May 04, 2022 11:42 pmDocBarrister wrote: ↑Wed May 04, 2022 11:11 pmHow much do those jobs pay compared to say … the OC position at Maryland and the DC position at Syracuse?jerseyjames wrote: ↑Wed May 04, 2022 10:50 pmI think both jobs are decent jobs, obviously Prov more then St. Johns but will attract a very deep pool of candidates. I think will be intersteing to see who is trying to go back home to the island and take interviews with St. Johns, perhaps a Wellner?
Just curious.
DocBarrister
I obviously don't have facts and figures but I definitely feel like Providence will invest, with those facilities how can they not. Plus you can't put a price on quality of life and making the Miss's happy and the fact is lots of coaches want to find their way back to the island especially to run a program.
Petro isn’t going to St Johns. They’re getting a cheap assistant most likely.
It was docs question about Cuse DC comp within the string.jerseyjames wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 11:25 amI never said Petro, I agree no shot in hell would he take that, maybe a Prov if he was interested, but agreed an assistant coach or a retread is most likely for St. Johns, Tim McIntee would be interested?Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 9:09 amNot worth it. Not nearly enough dough. $250k which is probably mad what even Petro could get out of a St. John’s, and that’s unlikely, to live in LI is enough to cover property taxes and have a Christmas buy not that much more. To go try to resurrect a program that didn’t exist 20yrs ago or so and never really had success other than 1-2yrs with McArdle and a transfer (Eric DeJohn from F&M in upstate who transferred from Cuse).jerseyjames wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 8:33 amLong Island as in the St Johns job, live on the island, commute to Queenspcowlax wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 12:08 amthe island = Rhode Island? Never heard that one before. Buffett wants to back to the island in Tin Cup Chalice but he wasn’t talking about Providence.jerseyjames wrote: ↑Wed May 04, 2022 11:42 pmDocBarrister wrote: ↑Wed May 04, 2022 11:11 pmHow much do those jobs pay compared to say … the OC position at Maryland and the DC position at Syracuse?jerseyjames wrote: ↑Wed May 04, 2022 10:50 pmI think both jobs are decent jobs, obviously Prov more then St. Johns but will attract a very deep pool of candidates. I think will be intersteing to see who is trying to go back home to the island and take interviews with St. Johns, perhaps a Wellner?
Just curious.
DocBarrister
I obviously don't have facts and figures but I definitely feel like Providence will invest, with those facilities how can they not. Plus you can't put a price on quality of life and making the Miss's happy and the fact is lots of coaches want to find their way back to the island especially to run a program.
Petro isn’t going to St Johns. They’re getting a cheap assistant most likely.
Miller spent 16yrs at St Johns. May be his one and only college HC shot.Old&InTheWay wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 11:35 am What about a Lelan Rogers? He would seem to be a person you would consider for both St. John's and Prov. Does Miller look at the Bates opening or his he out of the game all together?
He might. But I wouldn't be surprised if he stays at Jacksonville a bit longer and waits to see what happens at Syracuse(his alma mater).backerzone wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 7:46 am I would think Galloway would give a hard look at Providence- Jax as a school is not very financially viable as an institution- little if any endowment. Providence would be a huge step up in my opinion.
The real challenge will be pulling him away from Annapolis.gymman1031 wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 12:42 pm I still say Providence should take a long, hard look at Georgetown's Mike Phipps. He is already in the Big East, so it wouldn't be too hard of a transition.
I think we are saying similar things about St John's. It is not a college town school like some, but there are many lacrosse schools that are not college town schools. The school is making good strides to break out of the commuter school stereotype and there is a lot to offer. The main point I was trying to make is that it should be on par with many of the urban/city schools that do well when it comes to recruiting and the feeling by many that the school and it's setting makes it one of the worst places to recruit in D1 is not accurate.socalref wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 10:33 amThe campus itself is nice, but there isn't much campus life. 3000 beds with 18000 enrolled turns it into a ghost town in the evenings and weekends. A 3000 student college with 3000 students on/adjacent to campus is a VERY different vibe. All the freshman lax players stay on campus and then get to fight for and find rental houses after that. They are on their own to coordinate that amongst themselves. A couple of bars off campus that don't ask for ID is about all you have for activity. It's mostly residential so there isn't much to do. The school is trying to break out of its history as a locals only commuter college, but it's a long way from it and has a long way to go. They try to sell it as being in the city, but you're an easy hour out with mass transit so the kids don't go to NYC often. No time anyway with the lacrosse commitment. I do think they have a good story to tell, but there is a lot that needs to change. The financial aid offered for HS academic achievement is pretty solid. A new/remodeled team locker room this past winter was a step in that direction.
Very true. His family has lived there for a long time and loves it.InsiderRoll wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 12:50 pmThe real challenge will be pulling him away from Annapolis.gymman1031 wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 12:42 pm I still say Providence should take a long, hard look at Georgetown's Mike Phipps. He is already in the Big East, so it wouldn't be too hard of a transition.
Providence takes its athletics seriously. Men's hockey was NCAA champs in 2015, men's basketball won the Big East regular season title and made it to the sweet 16 this past year, and in the fall of 2021, men's soccer made it to the third round of the NCAAs, losing to Georgetown. My guess is they want to improve on what Gabrielli has achieved.LaxPundit07 wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 1:03 pm Should Providence be better than they were under Gabrielli? Apparently the school thinks so.
Dixon on BTN opined that Coach Benson might be a good fit for Providence. I agree. Benson has played in a national championship game as a player; won one as OC at Johns Hopkins; and is favored to win another one as OC at Maryland. Plus, he learned the trade under two of the best: Petro and Tillman. Quite a resume. Would love to read the letters of recommendation.DALaxDad wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 3:42 pmProvidence takes its athletics seriously. Men's hockey was NCAA champs in 2015, men's basketball won the Big East regular season title and made it to the sweet 16 this past year, and in the fall of 2021, men's soccer made it to the third round of the NCAAs, losing to Georgetown. My guess is they want to improve on what Gabrielli has achieved.LaxPundit07 wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 1:03 pm Should Providence be better than they were under Gabrielli? Apparently the school thinks so.
I think a question about Benson is his family. Wife and kids are in Atlanta. Understand she is doing great at her job. Also being a HC is different then being an assistantDocBarrister wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 8:47 pmDixon on BTN opined that Coach Benson might be a good fit for Providence. I agree. Benson has played in a national championship game as a player; won one as OC at Johns Hopkins; and is favored to win another one as OC at Maryland. Plus, he learned the trade under two of the best: Petro and Tillman. Quite a resume. Would love to read the letters of recommendation.DALaxDad wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 3:42 pmProvidence takes its athletics seriously. Men's hockey was NCAA champs in 2015, men's basketball won the Big East regular season title and made it to the sweet 16 this past year, and in the fall of 2021, men's soccer made it to the third round of the NCAAs, losing to Georgetown. My guess is they want to improve on what Gabrielli has achieved.LaxPundit07 wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 1:03 pm Should Providence be better than they were under Gabrielli? Apparently the school thinks so.
Frankly, if Benson wants to be a head coach at a major program some day, then he is long past due taking a head coaching gig.
I think he should go for the Providence job, and then when the Hopkins HC position opens up in a couple of years, he can return to Homewood.
DocBarrister
I thought about that as well. The probable paycheck disparity makes Benson’s job more like a hobby. However, I suspect Benson’s wife understands how important Benson’s coaching career is to him.AreaLax wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 9:54 pmI think a question about Benson is his family. Wife and kids are in Atlanta. Understand she is doing great at her job. Also being a HC is different then being an assistantDocBarrister wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 8:47 pmDixon on BTN opined that Coach Benson might be a good fit for Providence. I agree. Benson has played in a national championship game as a player; won one as OC at Johns Hopkins; and is favored to win another one as OC at Maryland. Plus, he learned the trade under two of the best: Petro and Tillman. Quite a resume. Would love to read the letters of recommendation.DALaxDad wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 3:42 pmProvidence takes its athletics seriously. Men's hockey was NCAA champs in 2015, men's basketball won the Big East regular season title and made it to the sweet 16 this past year, and in the fall of 2021, men's soccer made it to the third round of the NCAAs, losing to Georgetown. My guess is they want to improve on what Gabrielli has achieved.LaxPundit07 wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 1:03 pm Should Providence be better than they were under Gabrielli? Apparently the school thinks so.
Frankly, if Benson wants to be a head coach at a major program some day, then he is long past due taking a head coaching gig.
I think he should go for the Providence job, and then when the Hopkins HC position opens up in a couple of years, he can return to Homewood.
DocBarrister