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ABV 8.3% wrote: Mon Aug 19, 2019 5:17 pm I loved comic books too. It all started with the area's Fort sex ed information. It was cartoons, but porn. Well, for the sears catalog era, it was. That moved on to the parents (I know, gross right) sex books. I would especially, and quite often ,practice with a soft bent to one in particular. Probably were I got my love of drawing/art, but Dr. Comfort sure was one when this youngster was very young. But, the joy of sex was, to this 3rd grader, a comic book .

and, no, not in any way, shape , form or fashion, am I .
Never that interested in porn. Saw one film in college. I was an RA in an all male dorm and residence hall staff decided on a film night to rent a porn film for the staff..After the first film, I asked the guys in the lounge if they wanted to watch First Blood or something like that or a porn movie. Voted for porn...turned it on and about 1/3 way in the room had almost cleared out. A girl came strolling in, could not believe what we were watching and ran out. I shut it down....left and went to a girl’s room that I never had any interest in out of the blue and tried to talk my way into some p*ssy. That was it for me. If I can’t have it, I wasn’t interested in watching it. Been that way every since. I leave the porn to those that can’t have ...I’m good.
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Mon Aug 19, 2019 6:54 pm
ABV 8.3% wrote: Mon Aug 19, 2019 5:17 pm I loved comic books too. It all started with the area's Fort sex ed information. It was cartoons, but porn. Well, for the sears catalog era, it was. That moved on to the parents (I know, gross right) sex books. I would especially, and quite often ,practice with a soft bent to one in particular. Probably were I got my love of drawing/art, but Dr. Comfort sure was one when this youngster was very young. But, the joy of sex was, to this 3rd grader, a comic book .

and, no, not in any way, shape , form or fashion, am I .
Never that interested in porn. Saw one film in college. I was an RA in an all male dorm and residence hall staff decided on a film night to rent a porn film for the staff..After the first film, I asked the guys in the lounge if they wanted to watch First Blood or something like that or a porn movie. Voted for porn...turned it on and about 1/3 way in the room had almost cleared out. A girl came strolling in, could not believe what we were watching and ran out. I shut it down....left and went to a girl’s room that I never had any interest in out of the blue and tried to talk my way into some p*ssy. That was it for me. If I can’t have it, I wasn’t interested in watching it. Been that way every since. I leave the porn to those that can’t have ...I’m good.
runrun duck go "joy of sex illustrations" and you probably won't call it porn. But to a 10 year old :o
oligarchy thanks you......same as it evah was
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ABV 8.3% wrote: Mon Aug 19, 2019 8:07 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Mon Aug 19, 2019 6:54 pm
ABV 8.3% wrote: Mon Aug 19, 2019 5:17 pm I loved comic books too. It all started with the area's Fort sex ed information. It was cartoons, but porn. Well, for the sears catalog era, it was. That moved on to the parents (I know, gross right) sex books. I would especially, and quite often ,practice with a soft bent to one in particular. Probably were I got my love of drawing/art, but Dr. Comfort sure was one when this youngster was very young. But, the joy of sex was, to this 3rd grader, a comic book .

and, no, not in any way, shape , form or fashion, am I .
Never that interested in porn. Saw one film in college. I was an RA in an all male dorm and residence hall staff decided on a film night to rent a porn film for the staff..After the first film, I asked the guys in the lounge if they wanted to watch First Blood or something like that or a porn movie. Voted for porn...turned it on and about 1/3 way in the room had almost cleared out. A girl came strolling in, could not believe what we were watching and ran out. I shut it down....left and went to a girl’s room that I never had any interest in out of the blue and tried to talk my way into some p*ssy. That was it for me. If I can’t have it, I wasn’t interested in watching it. Been that way every since. I leave the porn to those that can’t have ...I’m good.
runrun duck go "joy of sex illustrations" and you probably won't call it porn. But to a 10 year old :o
Not talking about way back when. Adolescence forward. 10 year old was just figuring it out. I remember someone found a deck of cards that had porn pictures on the cards. More of a curiosity than anything. I was 7 or 8 based on where we lived at the time.
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Scumbag and his fellow scumbags appear to getting off Scot-free. https://apple.news/AJ92l6y96SbO3YRUZguWCiA
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NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC was some pretty good porn for an adolescent before there was a lot more competition.
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DMac wrote: Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:36 pm NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC was some pretty good porn for an adolescent before there was a lot more competition.
LP cover art was a distant second.
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old salt wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2019 5:57 pm
OCanada wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2019 5:42 pm The number of witnesses interviewed was over 100. There were dozens of victims. There are few of any cases that rival this in scope.

The current cases are Newegg he is how this all came to light. So far there are now investigations into his ranch in
New Mexico and his private island. This was a case like few others.

Let’s wait and see what the final determination is after the N.M. case investigation, after the private island investigation and after the other countries. Investigations are completed. In his N.Y. home they found hundreds of photos of girls many certainly underage.

So it is as of yet an open question how many and when.

His plea deal was way out of the ordinary. He spent little time actually in custody, he failed to report per his probation more than 30 times without consequence. No one knows how he made money, pockets of valuables have been found in many places. So your idea is he raped girls but it was only a few and he stopped after he got busted?

Tell you what, call the local forensic psychiatrist or psychologist associated with your court and ask them about pedophiles and behaviors. Supreme Bench in Baltimore has a staff. Don’t know how the Chief Psychiatrist is anymore.
That's a lot of words to say you can't document if Epstein victimized any other minors AFTER he completed his sentence.
...maybe his national network news headliners George Steph or Katie Couric found out over dinner.
Hey Gary Hart,

What's YOUR defense for that dead dirtbag now?

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/state/ ... 89557.html

Pathetic. MAGA
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:15 pm
old salt wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2019 5:57 pm
OCanada wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2019 5:42 pm The number of witnesses interviewed was over 100. There were dozens of victims. There are few of any cases that rival this in scope.

The current cases are Newegg he is how this all came to light. So far there are now investigations into his ranch in
New Mexico and his private island. This was a case like few others.

Let’s wait and see what the final determination is after the N.M. case investigation, after the private island investigation and after the other countries. Investigations are completed. In his N.Y. home they found hundreds of photos of girls many certainly underage.

So it is as of yet an open question how many and when.

His plea deal was way out of the ordinary. He spent little time actually in custody, he failed to report per his probation more than 30 times without consequence. No one knows how he made money, pockets of valuables have been found in many places. So your idea is he raped girls but it was only a few and he stopped after he got busted?

Tell you what, call the local forensic psychiatrist or psychologist associated with your court and ask them about pedophiles and behaviors. Supreme Bench in Baltimore has a staff. Don’t know how the Chief Psychiatrist is anymore.
That's a lot of words to say you can't document if Epstein victimized any other minors AFTER he completed his sentence.
...maybe his national network news headliners George Steph or Katie Couric found out over dinner.
Hey Gary Hart,

What's YOUR defense for that dead dirtbag now?

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/state/ ... 89557.html

Pathetic. MAGA
That's a defense of Acosta & the agreement he made -- not of Epstein.
You still haven't documented that Epstein victimized any minors AFTER the agreement.
If he didn't, then Acosta succeeded in preventing him from re-offending, got jail time & put him on the sex offender's registry,
which was more than the FL Prosecutors accomplished. Acosta was the only one to get him on anything.
Your lying & slander is what's pathetic. I was defending Acosta, not Epstein.
The (D)'s & media went after Acosta to damage Trump & to divert attention from Clinton, Mitchell, Richardson, & the Lolita Express.
You're incapable of making an honest argument.
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old salt wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:35 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:15 pm
old salt wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2019 5:57 pm
OCanada wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2019 5:42 pm The number of witnesses interviewed was over 100. There were dozens of victims. There are few of any cases that rival this in scope.

The current cases are Newegg he is how this all came to light. So far there are now investigations into his ranch in
New Mexico and his private island. This was a case like few others.

Let’s wait and see what the final determination is after the N.M. case investigation, after the private island investigation and after the other countries. Investigations are completed. In his N.Y. home they found hundreds of photos of girls many certainly underage.

So it is as of yet an open question how many and when.

His plea deal was way out of the ordinary. He spent little time actually in custody, he failed to report per his probation more than 30 times without consequence. No one knows how he made money, pockets of valuables have been found in many places. So your idea is he raped girls but it was only a few and he stopped after he got busted?

Tell you what, call the local forensic psychiatrist or psychologist associated with your court and ask them about pedophiles and behaviors. Supreme Bench in Baltimore has a staff. Don’t know how the Chief Psychiatrist is anymore.
That's a lot of words to say you can't document if Epstein victimized any other minors AFTER he completed his sentence.
...maybe his national network news headliners George Steph or Katie Couric found out over dinner.
Hey Gary Hart,

What's YOUR defense for that dead dirtbag now?

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/state/ ... 89557.html

Pathetic. MAGA
That's a defense of Acosta & the agreement he made -- not of Epstein.
You still haven't documented that Epstein victimized any minors AFTER the agreement.
If he didn't, then Acosta succeeded in preventing him from re-offending, got jail time & put him on the sex offender's registry,
which was more than the FL Prosecutors accomplished. Acosta was the only one to get him on anything.
Your lying & slander is what's pathetic. I was defending Acosta, not Epstein.
You're incapable of making an honest argument.
You implied several times that Epstein was reformed and didn't do anything while on work release or since so Acosta was right in his decision ....don't know if defending the dirt bag that defended the dirtbag does much. If I misunderstood, it could be do to a forked tongue.

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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:46 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:35 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:15 pm
old salt wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2019 5:57 pm
OCanada wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2019 5:42 pm The number of witnesses interviewed was over 100. There were dozens of victims. There are few of any cases that rival this in scope.

The current cases are Newegg he is how this all came to light. So far there are now investigations into his ranch in
New Mexico and his private island. This was a case like few others.

Let’s wait and see what the final determination is after the N.M. case investigation, after the private island investigation and after the other countries. Investigations are completed. In his N.Y. home they found hundreds of photos of girls many certainly underage.

So it is as of yet an open question how many and when.

His plea deal was way out of the ordinary. He spent little time actually in custody, he failed to report per his probation more than 30 times without consequence. No one knows how he made money, pockets of valuables have been found in many places. So your idea is he raped girls but it was only a few and he stopped after he got busted?

Tell you what, call the local forensic psychiatrist or psychologist associated with your court and ask them about pedophiles and behaviors. Supreme Bench in Baltimore has a staff. Don’t know how the Chief Psychiatrist is anymore.
That's a lot of words to say you can't document if Epstein victimized any other minors AFTER he completed his sentence.
...maybe his national network news headliners George Steph or Katie Couric found out over dinner.
Hey Gary Hart,

What's YOUR defense for that dead dirtbag now?

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/state/ ... 89557.html

Pathetic. MAGA
That's a defense of Acosta & the agreement he made -- not of Epstein.
You still haven't documented that Epstein victimized any minors AFTER the agreement.
If he didn't, then Acosta succeeded in preventing him from re-offending, got jail time & put him on the sex offender's registry,
which was more than the FL Prosecutors accomplished. Acosta was the only one to get him on anything.
Your lying & slander is what's pathetic. I was defending Acosta, not Epstein.
You're incapable of making an honest argument.
You implied several times that Epstein was reformed and didn't do anything while on work release or since so Acosta was right in his decision ....don't know if defending the dirt bag that defended the dirtbag does much. If I misunderstood, it could be do to a forked tongue.

MAGA
That's BS. Show me where I ever used the word "reformed", or defended his work release (which Acosta had nothing to do with).
Acosta was being flayed, as if he allowed Epstein back on the street to re-offend.
Until there's evidence that Epstein continued to have sex with females below the age of consent, it's a bum rap on Acosta.
Epstein may have legally continued his perversions, using young women above the age of consent.
Younger post-agreement victims may still come forward, but they had not yet when I was asking & I haven't heard of any since.
Were any of his accusers below the age of consent after the agreement was reached ? If so, they'll be on Acosta.
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old salt wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 11:03 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:46 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:35 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:15 pm
old salt wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2019 5:57 pm
OCanada wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2019 5:42 pm The number of witnesses interviewed was over 100. There were dozens of victims. There are few of any cases that rival this in scope.

The current cases are Newegg he is how this all came to light. So far there are now investigations into his ranch in
New Mexico and his private island. This was a case like few others.

Let’s wait and see what the final determination is after the N.M. case investigation, after the private island investigation and after the other countries. Investigations are completed. In his N.Y. home they found hundreds of photos of girls many certainly underage.

So it is as of yet an open question how many and when.

His plea deal was way out of the ordinary. He spent little time actually in custody, he failed to report per his probation more than 30 times without consequence. No one knows how he made money, pockets of valuables have been found in many places. So your idea is he raped girls but it was only a few and he stopped after he got busted?

Tell you what, call the local forensic psychiatrist or psychologist associated with your court and ask them about pedophiles and behaviors. Supreme Bench in Baltimore has a staff. Don’t know how the Chief Psychiatrist is anymore.
That's a lot of words to say you can't document if Epstein victimized any other minors AFTER he completed his sentence.
...maybe his national network news headliners George Steph or Katie Couric found out over dinner.
Hey Gary Hart,

What's YOUR defense for that dead dirtbag now?

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/state/ ... 89557.html

Pathetic. MAGA
That's a defense of Acosta & the agreement he made -- not of Epstein.
You still haven't documented that Epstein victimized any minors AFTER the agreement.
If he didn't, then Acosta succeeded in preventing him from re-offending, got jail time & put him on the sex offender's registry,
which was more than the FL Prosecutors accomplished. Acosta was the only one to get him on anything.
Your lying & slander is what's pathetic. I was defending Acosta, not Epstein.
You're incapable of making an honest argument.
You implied several times that Epstein was reformed and didn't do anything while on work release or since so Acosta was right in his decision ....don't know if defending the dirt bag that defended the dirtbag does much. If I misunderstood, it could be do to a forked tongue.

MAGA
That's BS. Show me where I ever used the word "reformed", or defended his work release (which Acosta had nothing to do with).
Acosta was being flayed, as if he allowed Epstein back on the street to re-offend.
Until there's evidence that Epstein continued to have sex with females below the age of consent, it's a bum rap on Acosta.
Epstein may have legally continued his perversions, using young women above the age of consent.
Younger post-agreement victims may still come forward, but they had not yet when I was asking & I haven't heard of any since.
Were any of his accusers below the age of consent after the agreement was reached ? If so, they'll be on Acosta.
Read the Miami Herald. You also brushed off “trafficking”. You likened it to garden variety statutory rape...

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old salt wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 11:03 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:46 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:35 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:15 pm
old salt wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2019 5:57 pm
OCanada wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2019 5:42 pm The number of witnesses interviewed was over 100. There were dozens of victims. There are few of any cases that rival this in scope.

The current cases are Newegg he is how this all came to light. So far there are now investigations into his ranch in
New Mexico and his private island. This was a case like few others.

Let’s wait and see what the final determination is after the N.M. case investigation, after the private island investigation and after the other countries. Investigations are completed. In his N.Y. home they found hundreds of photos of girls many certainly underage.

So it is as of yet an open question how many and when.

His plea deal was way out of the ordinary. He spent little time actually in custody, he failed to report per his probation more than 30 times without consequence. No one knows how he made money, pockets of valuables have been found in many places. So your idea is he raped girls but it was only a few and he stopped after he got busted?

Tell you what, call the local forensic psychiatrist or psychologist associated with your court and ask them about pedophiles and behaviors. Supreme Bench in Baltimore has a staff. Don’t know how the Chief Psychiatrist is anymore.
That's a lot of words to say you can't document if Epstein victimized any other minors AFTER he completed his sentence.
...maybe his national network news headliners George Steph or Katie Couric found out over dinner.
Hey Gary Hart,

What's YOUR defense for that dead dirtbag now?

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/state/ ... 89557.html

Pathetic. MAGA
That's a defense of Acosta & the agreement he made -- not of Epstein.
You still haven't documented that Epstein victimized any minors AFTER the agreement.
If he didn't, then Acosta succeeded in preventing him from re-offending, got jail time & put him on the sex offender's registry,
which was more than the FL Prosecutors accomplished. Acosta was the only one to get him on anything.
Your lying & slander is what's pathetic. I was defending Acosta, not Epstein.
You're incapable of making an honest argument.
You implied several times that Epstein was reformed and didn't do anything while on work release or since so Acosta was right in his decision ....don't know if defending the dirt bag that defended the dirtbag does much. If I misunderstood, it could be do to a forked tongue.

MAGA
That's BS. Show me where I ever used the word "reformed", or defended his work release (which Acosta had nothing to do with).
Acosta was being flayed, as if he allowed Epstein back on the street to re-offend.
Until there's evidence that Epstein continued to have sex with females below the age of consent, it's a bum rap on Acosta.
Epstein may have legally continued his perversions, using young women above the age of consent.
Younger post-agreement victims may still come forward, but they had not yet when I was asking & I haven't heard of any since.
Were any of his accusers below the age of consent after the agreement was reached ? If so, they'll be on Acosta.
Yikes.
So if I follow your logic, you're saying that because we don't yet have proof that a serial pedophile was not 'reformed', i.e. no under age sex accusations post trial (yet), then all goody goody with Acosta's decision to give him a slap on the hand and let him out into the wild ???

The only legitimate issue is whether Epstein was actually caught re-offending?

Why the heck are you defending Acosta?
He made a bad decision, very likely under all sorts of pressure to do so (we really don't know what that pressure may have been).
Perhaps some day he'll tell us what that pressure was, or perhaps someone else will.
Time will tell.

He lost his job. The victims lost their day in court.
No comparison, right?

Acosta may well be a veritable pawn in all this sleaze, but he ain't an innocent bystander. He had a responsibility to do better.

But let's focus not on Acosta but rather on who put the arm on him and on others, who entered into a corrupt relationship with Epstein, whether over money or sex. Nail the sleaze balls, especially those with the arrogance of money, fame and power.

This is likely to be an equal opportunity sleaze-fest. Nail'em all.
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 11:20 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 11:03 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:46 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:35 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:15 pm
old salt wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2019 5:57 pm
OCanada wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2019 5:42 pm The number of witnesses interviewed was over 100. There were dozens of victims. There are few of any cases that rival this in scope.

The current cases are Newegg he is how this all came to light. So far there are now investigations into his ranch in
New Mexico and his private island. This was a case like few others.

Let’s wait and see what the final determination is after the N.M. case investigation, after the private island investigation and after the other countries. Investigations are completed. In his N.Y. home they found hundreds of photos of girls many certainly underage.

So it is as of yet an open question how many and when.

His plea deal was way out of the ordinary. He spent little time actually in custody, he failed to report per his probation more than 30 times without consequence. No one knows how he made money, pockets of valuables have been found in many places. So your idea is he raped girls but it was only a few and he stopped after he got busted?

Tell you what, call the local forensic psychiatrist or psychologist associated with your court and ask them about pedophiles and behaviors. Supreme Bench in Baltimore has a staff. Don’t know how the Chief Psychiatrist is anymore.
That's a lot of words to say you can't document if Epstein victimized any other minors AFTER he completed his sentence.
...maybe his national network news headliners George Steph or Katie Couric found out over dinner.
Hey Gary Hart,

What's YOUR defense for that dead dirtbag now?

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/state/ ... 89557.html

Pathetic. MAGA
That's a defense of Acosta & the agreement he made -- not of Epstein.
You still haven't documented that Epstein victimized any minors AFTER the agreement.
If he didn't, then Acosta succeeded in preventing him from re-offending, got jail time & put him on the sex offender's registry,
which was more than the FL Prosecutors accomplished. Acosta was the only one to get him on anything.
Your lying & slander is what's pathetic. I was defending Acosta, not Epstein.
You're incapable of making an honest argument.
You implied several times that Epstein was reformed and didn't do anything while on work release or since so Acosta was right in his decision ....don't know if defending the dirt bag that defended the dirtbag does much. If I misunderstood, it could be do to a forked tongue.

MAGA
That's BS. Show me where I ever used the word "reformed", or defended his work release (which Acosta had nothing to do with).
Acosta was being flayed, as if he allowed Epstein back on the street to re-offend.
Until there's evidence that Epstein continued to have sex with females below the age of consent, it's a bum rap on Acosta.
Epstein may have legally continued his perversions, using young women above the age of consent.
Younger post-agreement victims may still come forward, but they had not yet when I was asking & I haven't heard of any since.
Were any of his accusers below the age of consent after the agreement was reached ? If so, they'll be on Acosta.
Read the Miami Herald. You also brushed off “trafficking”. You likened it to garden variety statutory rape...
MAGA
More BS & distortion. I said that it should have been easier & quicker for the FL Prosecutors to put him away for statutory rape, rather than to make a complex interstate trafficking case. Did it ever occur to you that if the FL Prosecutors couldn't get any of the victims to press charges or testify, a Fed trafficking case might be even more challenging, & that at least Acosta got jail time & put him on the sex offenders registry, so he'd know he was under continued scrutiny. Do you consider statutory rape a garden variety crime -- what are the sentencing guidelines ?
Statutory rape in Florida carries a maximum sentence of 15 years in prison and a fine of $10,000 for first-time offenders. Stiffer penalties apply to habitual offenders and can include up to 40 years or life in prison.
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old salt wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 11:27 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 11:20 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 11:03 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:46 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:35 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:15 pm
old salt wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2019 5:57 pm
OCanada wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2019 5:42 pm The number of witnesses interviewed was over 100. There were dozens of victims. There are few of any cases that rival this in scope.

The current cases are Newegg he is how this all came to light. So far there are now investigations into his ranch in
New Mexico and his private island. This was a case like few others.

Let’s wait and see what the final determination is after the N.M. case investigation, after the private island investigation and after the other countries. Investigations are completed. In his N.Y. home they found hundreds of photos of girls many certainly underage.

So it is as of yet an open question how many and when.

His plea deal was way out of the ordinary. He spent little time actually in custody, he failed to report per his probation more than 30 times without consequence. No one knows how he made money, pockets of valuables have been found in many places. So your idea is he raped girls but it was only a few and he stopped after he got busted?

Tell you what, call the local forensic psychiatrist or psychologist associated with your court and ask them about pedophiles and behaviors. Supreme Bench in Baltimore has a staff. Don’t know how the Chief Psychiatrist is anymore.
That's a lot of words to say you can't document if Epstein victimized any other minors AFTER he completed his sentence.
...maybe his national network news headliners George Steph or Katie Couric found out over dinner.
Hey Gary Hart,

What's YOUR defense for that dead dirtbag now?

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/state/ ... 89557.html

Pathetic. MAGA
That's a defense of Acosta & the agreement he made -- not of Epstein.
You still haven't documented that Epstein victimized any minors AFTER the agreement.
If he didn't, then Acosta succeeded in preventing him from re-offending, got jail time & put him on the sex offender's registry,
which was more than the FL Prosecutors accomplished. Acosta was the only one to get him on anything.
Your lying & slander is what's pathetic. I was defending Acosta, not Epstein.
You're incapable of making an honest argument.
You implied several times that Epstein was reformed and didn't do anything while on work release or since so Acosta was right in his decision ....don't know if defending the dirt bag that defended the dirtbag does much. If I misunderstood, it could be do to a forked tongue.

MAGA
That's BS. Show me where I ever used the word "reformed", or defended his work release (which Acosta had nothing to do with).
Acosta was being flayed, as if he allowed Epstein back on the street to re-offend.
Until there's evidence that Epstein continued to have sex with females below the age of consent, it's a bum rap on Acosta.
Epstein may have legally continued his perversions, using young women above the age of consent.
Younger post-agreement victims may still come forward, but they had not yet when I was asking & I haven't heard of any since.
Were any of his accusers below the age of consent after the agreement was reached ? If so, they'll be on Acosta.
Read the Miami Herald. You also brushed off “trafficking”. You likened it to garden variety statutory rape...
MAGA
More BS & distortion. I said that it should have been easier & quicker for the FL Prosecutors to put him away for statutory rape, rather than to make a complex interstate trafficking case. Did it ever occur to you that if the FL Prosecutors couldn't get any of the victims to press charges or testify, a Fed trafficking case might be even more challenging, & that at least Acosta got jail time & put him on the sex offenders registry, so he'd know he was under continued scrutiny. Do you consider statutory rape a garden variety crime -- what are the sentencing guidelines ?
Statutory rape in Florida carries a maximum sentence of 15 years in prison and a fine of $10,000 for first-time offenders. Stiffer penalties apply to habitual offenders and can include up to 40 years or life in prison.
ok, so you're now saying that the prosecutors, local and federal, fouled up because they never thought of bringing a statutory rape charge, wasted their energies considering trafficking?

Huh?

You do realize that more than one charge can be brought, lesser charges as well as greater charges?
Now they're stupid?

They let him off the whole kit and caboodle with a slap on the wrist.
Gee, wonder why?
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MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 11:38 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 11:27 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 11:20 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 11:03 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:46 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:35 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:15 pm
old salt wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2019 5:57 pm
OCanada wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2019 5:42 pm The number of witnesses interviewed was over 100. There were dozens of victims. There are few of any cases that rival this in scope.

The current cases are Newegg he is how this all came to light. So far there are now investigations into his ranch in
New Mexico and his private island. This was a case like few others.

Let’s wait and see what the final determination is after the N.M. case investigation, after the private island investigation and after the other countries. Investigations are completed. In his N.Y. home they found hundreds of photos of girls many certainly underage.

So it is as of yet an open question how many and when.

His plea deal was way out of the ordinary. He spent little time actually in custody, he failed to report per his probation more than 30 times without consequence. No one knows how he made money, pockets of valuables have been found in many places. So your idea is he raped girls but it was only a few and he stopped after he got busted?

Tell you what, call the local forensic psychiatrist or psychologist associated with your court and ask them about pedophiles and behaviors. Supreme Bench in Baltimore has a staff. Don’t know how the Chief Psychiatrist is anymore.
That's a lot of words to say you can't document if Epstein victimized any other minors AFTER he completed his sentence.
...maybe his national network news headliners George Steph or Katie Couric found out over dinner.
Hey Gary Hart,

What's YOUR defense for that dead dirtbag now?

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/state/ ... 89557.html

Pathetic. MAGA
That's a defense of Acosta & the agreement he made -- not of Epstein.
You still haven't documented that Epstein victimized any minors AFTER the agreement.
If he didn't, then Acosta succeeded in preventing him from re-offending, got jail time & put him on the sex offender's registry,
which was more than the FL Prosecutors accomplished. Acosta was the only one to get him on anything.
Your lying & slander is what's pathetic. I was defending Acosta, not Epstein.
You're incapable of making an honest argument.
You implied several times that Epstein was reformed and didn't do anything while on work release or since so Acosta was right in his decision ....don't know if defending the dirt bag that defended the dirtbag does much. If I misunderstood, it could be do to a forked tongue.

MAGA
That's BS. Show me where I ever used the word "reformed", or defended his work release (which Acosta had nothing to do with).
Acosta was being flayed, as if he allowed Epstein back on the street to re-offend.
Until there's evidence that Epstein continued to have sex with females below the age of consent, it's a bum rap on Acosta.
Epstein may have legally continued his perversions, using young women above the age of consent.
Younger post-agreement victims may still come forward, but they had not yet when I was asking & I haven't heard of any since.
Were any of his accusers below the age of consent after the agreement was reached ? If so, they'll be on Acosta.
Read the Miami Herald. You also brushed off “trafficking”. You likened it to garden variety statutory rape...
MAGA
More BS & distortion. I said that it should have been easier & quicker for the FL Prosecutors to put him away for statutory rape, rather than to make a complex interstate trafficking case. Did it ever occur to you that if the FL Prosecutors couldn't get any of the victims to press charges or testify, a Fed trafficking case might be even more challenging, & that at least Acosta got jail time & put him on the sex offenders registry, so he'd know he was under continued scrutiny. Do you consider statutory rape a garden variety crime -- what are the sentencing guidelines ?
Statutory rape in Florida carries a maximum sentence of 15 years in prison and a fine of $10,000 for first-time offenders. Stiffer penalties apply to habitual offenders and can include up to 40 years or life in prison.
ok, so you're now saying that the prosecutors, local and federal, fouled up because they never thought of bringing a statutory rape charge, wasted their energies considering trafficking?

Huh?

You do realize that more than one charge can be brought, lesser charges as well as greater charges?
Now they're stupid?

They let him off the whole kit and caboodle with a slap on the wrist.
Gee, wonder why?
We discussed this in detail when the story broke. Go back & read this thread.
The FL prosecutors were going to let him off with a misdemeanor soliciting charge.
I'm pointing out that Acosta accomplished more than the state or locals, with a much more complex case to make.
You think it was a slam dunk vs the Roy Black', Ken Starr & Dershowitz team ? Ask William Kennedy Smith's accuser ?
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old salt wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 11:48 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 11:38 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 11:27 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 11:20 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 11:03 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:46 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:35 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:15 pm
old salt wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2019 5:57 pm
OCanada wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2019 5:42 pm The number of witnesses interviewed was over 100. There were dozens of victims. There are few of any cases that rival this in scope.

The current cases are Newegg he is how this all came to light. So far there are now investigations into his ranch in
New Mexico and his private island. This was a case like few others.

Let’s wait and see what the final determination is after the N.M. case investigation, after the private island investigation and after the other countries. Investigations are completed. In his N.Y. home they found hundreds of photos of girls many certainly underage.

So it is as of yet an open question how many and when.

His plea deal was way out of the ordinary. He spent little time actually in custody, he failed to report per his probation more than 30 times without consequence. No one knows how he made money, pockets of valuables have been found in many places. So your idea is he raped girls but it was only a few and he stopped after he got busted?

Tell you what, call the local forensic psychiatrist or psychologist associated with your court and ask them about pedophiles and behaviors. Supreme Bench in Baltimore has a staff. Don’t know how the Chief Psychiatrist is anymore.
That's a lot of words to say you can't document if Epstein victimized any other minors AFTER he completed his sentence.
...maybe his national network news headliners George Steph or Katie Couric found out over dinner.
Hey Gary Hart,

What's YOUR defense for that dead dirtbag now?

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/state/ ... 89557.html

Pathetic. MAGA
That's a defense of Acosta & the agreement he made -- not of Epstein.
You still haven't documented that Epstein victimized any minors AFTER the agreement.
If he didn't, then Acosta succeeded in preventing him from re-offending, got jail time & put him on the sex offender's registry,
which was more than the FL Prosecutors accomplished. Acosta was the only one to get him on anything.
Your lying & slander is what's pathetic. I was defending Acosta, not Epstein.
You're incapable of making an honest argument.
You implied several times that Epstein was reformed and didn't do anything while on work release or since so Acosta was right in his decision ....don't know if defending the dirt bag that defended the dirtbag does much. If I misunderstood, it could be do to a forked tongue.

MAGA
That's BS. Show me where I ever used the word "reformed", or defended his work release (which Acosta had nothing to do with).
Acosta was being flayed, as if he allowed Epstein back on the street to re-offend.
Until there's evidence that Epstein continued to have sex with females below the age of consent, it's a bum rap on Acosta.
Epstein may have legally continued his perversions, using young women above the age of consent.
Younger post-agreement victims may still come forward, but they had not yet when I was asking & I haven't heard of any since.
Were any of his accusers below the age of consent after the agreement was reached ? If so, they'll be on Acosta.
Read the Miami Herald. You also brushed off “trafficking”. You likened it to garden variety statutory rape...
MAGA
More BS & distortion. I said that it should have been easier & quicker for the FL Prosecutors to put him away for statutory rape, rather than to make a complex interstate trafficking case. Did it ever occur to you that if the FL Prosecutors couldn't get any of the victims to press charges or testify, a Fed trafficking case might be even more challenging, & that at least Acosta got jail time & put him on the sex offenders registry, so he'd know he was under continued scrutiny. Do you consider statutory rape a garden variety crime -- what are the sentencing guidelines ?
Statutory rape in Florida carries a maximum sentence of 15 years in prison and a fine of $10,000 for first-time offenders. Stiffer penalties apply to habitual offenders and can include up to 40 years or life in prison.
ok, so you're now saying that the prosecutors, local and federal, fouled up because they never thought of bringing a statutory rape charge, wasted their energies considering trafficking?

Huh?

You do realize that more than one charge can be brought, lesser charges as well as greater charges?
Now they're stupid?

They let him off the whole kit and caboodle with a slap on the wrist.
Gee, wonder why?
We discussed this in detail when the story broke. Go back & read this thread.
The FL prosecutors were going to let him off with a misdemeanor soliciting charge.
I'm pointing out that Acosta accomplished more than the state or locals, with a much more complex case to make.
You think it was a slam dunk vs the Roy Black', Ken Starr & Dershowitz team ? Ask William Kennedy Smith's accuser ?
Yup, the rich and powerful are tough to nail down and put away.
100 victims and more coming.

None of these prosecutors should get off the proverbial hook. But as I said earlier about Acosta, and let me extend that to the state prosecutors, they may well be relative pawns in all this sleaze. They are not the big time scum, just those who rolled over.

But they had agency, they had a responsibility.
100 victims, more coming.
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MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 11:54 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 11:48 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 11:38 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 11:27 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 11:20 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 11:03 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:46 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:35 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:15 pm
old salt wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2019 5:57 pm
OCanada wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2019 5:42 pm The number of witnesses interviewed was over 100. There were dozens of victims. There are few of any cases that rival this in scope.

The current cases are Newegg he is how this all came to light. So far there are now investigations into his ranch in
New Mexico and his private island. This was a case like few others.

Let’s wait and see what the final determination is after the N.M. case investigation, after the private island investigation and after the other countries. Investigations are completed. In his N.Y. home they found hundreds of photos of girls many certainly underage.

So it is as of yet an open question how many and when.

His plea deal was way out of the ordinary. He spent little time actually in custody, he failed to report per his probation more than 30 times without consequence. No one knows how he made money, pockets of valuables have been found in many places. So your idea is he raped girls but it was only a few and he stopped after he got busted?

Tell you what, call the local forensic psychiatrist or psychologist associated with your court and ask them about pedophiles and behaviors. Supreme Bench in Baltimore has a staff. Don’t know how the Chief Psychiatrist is anymore.
That's a lot of words to say you can't document if Epstein victimized any other minors AFTER he completed his sentence.
...maybe his national network news headliners George Steph or Katie Couric found out over dinner.
Hey Gary Hart,

What's YOUR defense for that dead dirtbag now?

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/state/ ... 89557.html

Pathetic. MAGA
That's a defense of Acosta & the agreement he made -- not of Epstein.
You still haven't documented that Epstein victimized any minors AFTER the agreement.
If he didn't, then Acosta succeeded in preventing him from re-offending, got jail time & put him on the sex offender's registry,
which was more than the FL Prosecutors accomplished. Acosta was the only one to get him on anything.
Your lying & slander is what's pathetic. I was defending Acosta, not Epstein.
You're incapable of making an honest argument.
You implied several times that Epstein was reformed and didn't do anything while on work release or since so Acosta was right in his decision ....don't know if defending the dirt bag that defended the dirtbag does much. If I misunderstood, it could be do to a forked tongue.

MAGA
That's BS. Show me where I ever used the word "reformed", or defended his work release (which Acosta had nothing to do with).
Acosta was being flayed, as if he allowed Epstein back on the street to re-offend.
Until there's evidence that Epstein continued to have sex with females below the age of consent, it's a bum rap on Acosta.
Epstein may have legally continued his perversions, using young women above the age of consent.
Younger post-agreement victims may still come forward, but they had not yet when I was asking & I haven't heard of any since.
Were any of his accusers below the age of consent after the agreement was reached ? If so, they'll be on Acosta.
Read the Miami Herald. You also brushed off “trafficking”. You likened it to garden variety statutory rape...
MAGA
More BS & distortion. I said that it should have been easier & quicker for the FL Prosecutors to put him away for statutory rape, rather than to make a complex interstate trafficking case. Did it ever occur to you that if the FL Prosecutors couldn't get any of the victims to press charges or testify, a Fed trafficking case might be even more challenging, & that at least Acosta got jail time & put him on the sex offenders registry, so he'd know he was under continued scrutiny. Do you consider statutory rape a garden variety crime -- what are the sentencing guidelines ?
Statutory rape in Florida carries a maximum sentence of 15 years in prison and a fine of $10,000 for first-time offenders. Stiffer penalties apply to habitual offenders and can include up to 40 years or life in prison.
ok, so you're now saying that the prosecutors, local and federal, fouled up because they never thought of bringing a statutory rape charge, wasted their energies considering trafficking?

Huh?

You do realize that more than one charge can be brought, lesser charges as well as greater charges?
Now they're stupid?

They let him off the whole kit and caboodle with a slap on the wrist.
Gee, wonder why?
We discussed this in detail when the story broke. Go back & read this thread.
The FL prosecutors were going to let him off with a misdemeanor soliciting charge.
I'm pointing out that Acosta accomplished more than the state or locals, with a much more complex case to make.
You think it was a slam dunk vs the Roy Black', Ken Starr & Dershowitz team ? Ask William Kennedy Smith's accuser ?
Yup, the rich and powerful are tough to nail down and put away.
100 victims and more coming.

None of these prosecutors should get off the proverbial hook. But as I said earlier about Acosta, and let me extend that to the state prosecutors, they may well be relative pawns in all this sleaze. They are not the big time scum, just those who rolled over.

But they had agency, they had a responsibility.
100 victims, more coming.
...& to accurately judge Acosta, were any of the victims victimized after Epstein took the plea deal ?
obtw -- Starr says he only consulted with the defense on whether or not there could be a Fed case, not on the merits of the case.
Starr defends Acosta & disputes the "sweetheart deal " claim.
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old salt wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 11:27 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 11:20 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 11:03 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:46 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:35 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:15 pm
old salt wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2019 5:57 pm
OCanada wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2019 5:42 pm The number of witnesses interviewed was over 100. There were dozens of victims. There are few of any cases that rival this in scope.

The current cases are Newegg he is how this all came to light. So far there are now investigations into his ranch in
New Mexico and his private island. This was a case like few others.

Let’s wait and see what the final determination is after the N.M. case investigation, after the private island investigation and after the other countries. Investigations are completed. In his N.Y. home they found hundreds of photos of girls many certainly underage.

So it is as of yet an open question how many and when.

His plea deal was way out of the ordinary. He spent little time actually in custody, he failed to report per his probation more than 30 times without consequence. No one knows how he made money, pockets of valuables have been found in many places. So your idea is he raped girls but it was only a few and he stopped after he got busted?

Tell you what, call the local forensic psychiatrist or psychologist associated with your court and ask them about pedophiles and behaviors. Supreme Bench in Baltimore has a staff. Don’t know how the Chief Psychiatrist is anymore.
That's a lot of words to say you can't document if Epstein victimized any other minors AFTER he completed his sentence.
...maybe his national network news headliners George Steph or Katie Couric found out over dinner.
Hey Gary Hart,

What's YOUR defense for that dead dirtbag now?

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/state/ ... 89557.html

Pathetic. MAGA
That's a defense of Acosta & the agreement he made -- not of Epstein.
You still haven't documented that Epstein victimized any minors AFTER the agreement.
If he didn't, then Acosta succeeded in preventing him from re-offending, got jail time & put him on the sex offender's registry,
which was more than the FL Prosecutors accomplished. Acosta was the only one to get him on anything.
Your lying & slander is what's pathetic. I was defending Acosta, not Epstein.
You're incapable of making an honest argument.
You implied several times that Epstein was reformed and didn't do anything while on work release or since so Acosta was right in his decision ....don't know if defending the dirt bag that defended the dirtbag does much. If I misunderstood, it could be do to a forked tongue.

MAGA
That's BS. Show me where I ever used the word "reformed", or defended his work release (which Acosta had nothing to do with).
Acosta was being flayed, as if he allowed Epstein back on the street to re-offend.
Until there's evidence that Epstein continued to have sex with females below the age of consent, it's a bum rap on Acosta.
Epstein may have legally continued his perversions, using young women above the age of consent.
Younger post-agreement victims may still come forward, but they had not yet when I was asking & I haven't heard of any since.
Were any of his accusers below the age of consent after the agreement was reached ? If so, they'll be on Acosta.
Read the Miami Herald. You also brushed off “trafficking”. You likened it to garden variety statutory rape...
MAGA
More BS & distortion. I said that it should have been easier & quicker for the FL Prosecutors to put him away for statutory rape, rather than to make a complex interstate trafficking case. Did it ever occur to you that if the FL Prosecutors couldn't get any of the victims to press charges or testify, a Fed trafficking case might be even more challenging, & that at least Acosta got jail time & put him on the sex offenders registry, so he'd know he was under continued scrutiny. Do you consider statutory rape a garden variety crime -- what are the sentencing guidelines ?
Statutory rape in Florida carries a maximum sentence of 15 years in prison and a fine of $10,000 for first-time offenders. Stiffer penalties apply to habitual offenders and can include up to 40 years or life in prison.
Here is your logic....the OJ jury got it right because OJ didn't kill anyone else.....Btw, read the Miami Herald....17 year old virgin was a victim while Jeff was on work release.....Acosta did the right thing...

MAGA
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old salt wrote: Wed Aug 21, 2019 12:02 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 11:54 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 11:48 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 11:38 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 11:27 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 11:20 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 11:03 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:46 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:35 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:15 pm
old salt wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2019 5:57 pm
OCanada wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2019 5:42 pm The number of witnesses interviewed was over 100. There were dozens of victims. There are few of any cases that rival this in scope.

The current cases are Newegg he is how this all came to light. So far there are now investigations into his ranch in
New Mexico and his private island. This was a case like few others.

Let’s wait and see what the final determination is after the N.M. case investigation, after the private island investigation and after the other countries. Investigations are completed. In his N.Y. home they found hundreds of photos of girls many certainly underage.

So it is as of yet an open question how many and when.

His plea deal was way out of the ordinary. He spent little time actually in custody, he failed to report per his probation more than 30 times without consequence. No one knows how he made money, pockets of valuables have been found in many places. So your idea is he raped girls but it was only a few and he stopped after he got busted?

Tell you what, call the local forensic psychiatrist or psychologist associated with your court and ask them about pedophiles and behaviors. Supreme Bench in Baltimore has a staff. Don’t know how the Chief Psychiatrist is anymore.
That's a lot of words to say you can't document if Epstein victimized any other minors AFTER he completed his sentence.
...maybe his national network news headliners George Steph or Katie Couric found out over dinner.
Hey Gary Hart,

What's YOUR defense for that dead dirtbag now?

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/state/ ... 89557.html

Pathetic. MAGA
That's a defense of Acosta & the agreement he made -- not of Epstein.
You still haven't documented that Epstein victimized any minors AFTER the agreement.
If he didn't, then Acosta succeeded in preventing him from re-offending, got jail time & put him on the sex offender's registry,
which was more than the FL Prosecutors accomplished. Acosta was the only one to get him on anything.
Your lying & slander is what's pathetic. I was defending Acosta, not Epstein.
You're incapable of making an honest argument.
You implied several times that Epstein was reformed and didn't do anything while on work release or since so Acosta was right in his decision ....don't know if defending the dirt bag that defended the dirtbag does much. If I misunderstood, it could be do to a forked tongue.

MAGA
That's BS. Show me where I ever used the word "reformed", or defended his work release (which Acosta had nothing to do with).
Acosta was being flayed, as if he allowed Epstein back on the street to re-offend.
Until there's evidence that Epstein continued to have sex with females below the age of consent, it's a bum rap on Acosta.
Epstein may have legally continued his perversions, using young women above the age of consent.
Younger post-agreement victims may still come forward, but they had not yet when I was asking & I haven't heard of any since.
Were any of his accusers below the age of consent after the agreement was reached ? If so, they'll be on Acosta.
Read the Miami Herald. You also brushed off “trafficking”. You likened it to garden variety statutory rape...
MAGA
More BS & distortion. I said that it should have been easier & quicker for the FL Prosecutors to put him away for statutory rape, rather than to make a complex interstate trafficking case. Did it ever occur to you that if the FL Prosecutors couldn't get any of the victims to press charges or testify, a Fed trafficking case might be even more challenging, & that at least Acosta got jail time & put him on the sex offenders registry, so he'd know he was under continued scrutiny. Do you consider statutory rape a garden variety crime -- what are the sentencing guidelines ?
Statutory rape in Florida carries a maximum sentence of 15 years in prison and a fine of $10,000 for first-time offenders. Stiffer penalties apply to habitual offenders and can include up to 40 years or life in prison.
ok, so you're now saying that the prosecutors, local and federal, fouled up because they never thought of bringing a statutory rape charge, wasted their energies considering trafficking?

Huh?

You do realize that more than one charge can be brought, lesser charges as well as greater charges?
Now they're stupid?

They let him off the whole kit and caboodle with a slap on the wrist.
Gee, wonder why?
We discussed this in detail when the story broke. Go back & read this thread.
The FL prosecutors were going to let him off with a misdemeanor soliciting charge.
I'm pointing out that Acosta accomplished more than the state or locals, with a much more complex case to make.
You think it was a slam dunk vs the Roy Black', Ken Starr & Dershowitz team ? Ask William Kennedy Smith's accuser ?
Yup, the rich and powerful are tough to nail down and put away.
100 victims and more coming.

None of these prosecutors should get off the proverbial hook. But as I said earlier about Acosta, and let me extend that to the state prosecutors, they may well be relative pawns in all this sleaze. They are not the big time scum, just those who rolled over.

But they had agency, they had a responsibility.
100 victims, more coming.
...& to accurately judge Acosta, were any of the victims victimized after Epstein took the plea deal ?
obtw -- Starr says he only consulted with the defense on whether or not there could be a Fed case, not on the merits of the case.
Starr defends Acosta & disputes the "sweetheart deal " claim.
Yes
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/state/ ... 89557.html
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Aug 21, 2019 8:00 amBtw, read the Miami Herald....17 year old virgin was a victim while Jeff was on work release.....Acosta did the right thing...
You are so dishonest. Based on the dates & ages in that Miami Herald article, both Kaitlyn & Priscilla Doe would have been above the age of consent in 2009 when they allegedly visited Epstein. Kaitlyn was 17 when she first met Epstein in 2006. Acosta's deal had nothing to do with his subsequent work release.
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