Sexual Assault ~ Weinstein, Epstein, etc.

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old salt wrote: Thu Jul 18, 2019 3:17 pm
foreverlax wrote: Thu Jul 18, 2019 3:09 pm
old salt wrote: Thu Jul 18, 2019 2:56 pm
old salt wrote: Thu Jul 18, 2019 2:43 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:14 pm
old salt wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2019 4:39 pm
When a minor victim from after Epstein's release from jail is identified, I'll jump on the blame Acosta bandwagon.
Until then, Acosta is just a way to hang this on Trump, rather than on Epstein, his enablers, & his elitist cronies who looked the other way.

My wife of 47 years will be surprised to learn that I have no women in my life, ...if I had the nerve to tell her.
You understand these weren't your typical gold-digging tripe The Donald dated/married/divorced/married/divorced, these are girls sold in to sexual slavery. So "Lolita" is supposed to be funny? You think these children were "looking for it"
Evidence ? Credible accuser ?

Sex slavery. The girls in NBC'a Mar-a-lago video were the Buffalo Bills & Miami Dolphins cheerleaders.
Ok, here's one. Still 'in jail', but of course it really wasn't jail as we'd normally understand it!

https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/16/us/jeffr ... index.html
That accusation is not from a prosecutor. It's from the plantiff's attorney representing several of Epstein's alleged victims, most notably Virginia Roberts, who was discredited in her civil case.

Don't sucker for anything a defense or plantiff's lawyer says.
Wait for a Prosecutor or US Atty to make a specific allegation.
Note what that attorney, Brad Edwards, had to say about Trump in 2018.
Also note the attempts by Glenn Simpson & Fusion GPS to promote a Trump -- Epstein connection.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-07- ... stein-case

Following a 2018 financial settlement between Florida attorney Bradley Edwards - who represented one of Epstein's accusers, only to be later sued by Epstein, Edwards claimed that Donald Trump was the 'only person' who provided assistance when Edwards served subpoenas and notices to high-profile individuals connected to Epstein.

Edwards: The only thing that I can say about President Trump is that he is the only person who, in 2009 when I served a lot of subpoenas on a lot of people, or at least gave notice to some pretty connected people, that I want to talk to them, is the only person who picked up the phone and said, let’s just talk. I’ll give you as much time as you want. I’ll tell you what you need to know, and was very helpful, in the information that he gave, and gave no indication whatsoever that he was involved in anything untoward whatsoever, but had good information. That checked out and that helped us and we didn’t have to take a deposition of him in 2009.

Note the sources used by the opinion writer, who has uses a fake name and was barred from the financial serves industry for life.

Unbiased? :lol:
Take it from the lawyer Brad Edwards himself. His clients, Katie Johnson & Virginia Roberts have been discredited.
Epstein is obviously guilty, but there are also alleged victims attempting to cash in & implicate other high profile, deep pocket individuals whi knew Epstein socially but were not involved in his perverted activities & distanced themselves when they learned of them
Re, zerohedge -- anything of theirs I've posted has proven to be accurate. They quote their media sources.
He used the WT to make his point....."Journalist sources told The Washington Times".

So this is your proof that Trump had no nefarious relationship with Epstein. Got it.
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foreverlax wrote: Thu Jul 18, 2019 3:22 pm
old salt wrote: Thu Jul 18, 2019 3:17 pm
foreverlax wrote: Thu Jul 18, 2019 3:09 pm
old salt wrote: Thu Jul 18, 2019 2:56 pm
old salt wrote: Thu Jul 18, 2019 2:43 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:14 pm
old salt wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2019 4:39 pm
When a minor victim from after Epstein's release from jail is identified, I'll jump on the blame Acosta bandwagon.
Until then, Acosta is just a way to hang this on Trump, rather than on Epstein, his enablers, & his elitist cronies who looked the other way.

My wife of 47 years will be surprised to learn that I have no women in my life, ...if I had the nerve to tell her.
You understand these weren't your typical gold-digging tripe The Donald dated/married/divorced/married/divorced, these are girls sold in to sexual slavery. So "Lolita" is supposed to be funny? You think these children were "looking for it"
Evidence ? Credible accuser ?

Sex slavery. The girls in NBC'a Mar-a-lago video were the Buffalo Bills & Miami Dolphins cheerleaders.
Ok, here's one. Still 'in jail', but of course it really wasn't jail as we'd normally understand it!

https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/16/us/jeffr ... index.html
That accusation is not from a prosecutor. It's from the plantiff's attorney representing several of Epstein's alleged victims, most notably Virginia Roberts, who was discredited in her civil case.

Don't sucker for anything a defense or plantiff's lawyer says.
Wait for a Prosecutor or US Atty to make a specific allegation.
Note what that attorney, Brad Edwards, had to say about Trump in 2018.
Also note the attempts by Glenn Simpson & Fusion GPS to promote a Trump -- Epstein connection.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-07- ... stein-case

Following a 2018 financial settlement between Florida attorney Bradley Edwards - who represented one of Epstein's accusers, only to be later sued by Epstein, Edwards claimed that Donald Trump was the 'only person' who provided assistance when Edwards served subpoenas and notices to high-profile individuals connected to Epstein.

Edwards: The only thing that I can say about President Trump is that he is the only person who, in 2009 when I served a lot of subpoenas on a lot of people, or at least gave notice to some pretty connected people, that I want to talk to them, is the only person who picked up the phone and said, let’s just talk. I’ll give you as much time as you want. I’ll tell you what you need to know, and was very helpful, in the information that he gave, and gave no indication whatsoever that he was involved in anything untoward whatsoever, but had good information. That checked out and that helped us and we didn’t have to take a deposition of him in 2009.

Note the sources used by the opinion writer, who has uses a fake name and was barred from the financial serves industry for life.

Unbiased? :lol:
Take it from the lawyer Brad Edwards himself. His clients, Katie Johnson & Virginia Roberts have been discredited.
Epstein is obviously guilty, but there are also alleged victims attempting to cash in & implicate other high profile, deep pocket individuals whi knew Epstein socially but were not involved in his perverted activities & distanced themselves when they learned of them
Re, zerohedge -- anything of theirs I've posted has proven to be accurate. They quote their media sources.
He used the WT to make his point....."Journalist sources told The Washington Times".

So this is your proof that Trump had no nefarious relationship with Epstein. Got it.
Same sources cited by Vox (follow the links)
https://www.vox.com/2019/7/9/20686347/j ... ll-clinton
The youtube clip shows Edwards himself.
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old salt wrote: Thu Jul 18, 2019 3:24 pm
foreverlax wrote: Thu Jul 18, 2019 3:22 pm
old salt wrote: Thu Jul 18, 2019 3:17 pm
foreverlax wrote: Thu Jul 18, 2019 3:09 pm
old salt wrote: Thu Jul 18, 2019 2:56 pm
old salt wrote: Thu Jul 18, 2019 2:43 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:14 pm
old salt wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2019 4:39 pm
When a minor victim from after Epstein's release from jail is identified, I'll jump on the blame Acosta bandwagon.
Until then, Acosta is just a way to hang this on Trump, rather than on Epstein, his enablers, & his elitist cronies who looked the other way.

My wife of 47 years will be surprised to learn that I have no women in my life, ...if I had the nerve to tell her.
You understand these weren't your typical gold-digging tripe The Donald dated/married/divorced/married/divorced, these are girls sold in to sexual slavery. So "Lolita" is supposed to be funny? You think these children were "looking for it"
Evidence ? Credible accuser ?

Sex slavery. The girls in NBC'a Mar-a-lago video were the Buffalo Bills & Miami Dolphins cheerleaders.
Ok, here's one. Still 'in jail', but of course it really wasn't jail as we'd normally understand it!

https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/16/us/jeffr ... index.html
That accusation is not from a prosecutor. It's from the plantiff's attorney representing several of Epstein's alleged victims, most notably Virginia Roberts, who was discredited in her civil case.

Don't sucker for anything a defense or plantiff's lawyer says.
Wait for a Prosecutor or US Atty to make a specific allegation.
Note what that attorney, Brad Edwards, had to say about Trump in 2018.
Also note the attempts by Glenn Simpson & Fusion GPS to promote a Trump -- Epstein connection.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-07- ... stein-case

Following a 2018 financial settlement between Florida attorney Bradley Edwards - who represented one of Epstein's accusers, only to be later sued by Epstein, Edwards claimed that Donald Trump was the 'only person' who provided assistance when Edwards served subpoenas and notices to high-profile individuals connected to Epstein.

Edwards: The only thing that I can say about President Trump is that he is the only person who, in 2009 when I served a lot of subpoenas on a lot of people, or at least gave notice to some pretty connected people, that I want to talk to them, is the only person who picked up the phone and said, let’s just talk. I’ll give you as much time as you want. I’ll tell you what you need to know, and was very helpful, in the information that he gave, and gave no indication whatsoever that he was involved in anything untoward whatsoever, but had good information. That checked out and that helped us and we didn’t have to take a deposition of him in 2009.

Note the sources used by the opinion writer, who has uses a fake name and was barred from the financial serves industry for life.

Unbiased? :lol:
Take it from the lawyer Brad Edwards himself. His clients, Katie Johnson & Virginia Roberts have been discredited.
Epstein is obviously guilty, but there are also alleged victims attempting to cash in & implicate other high profile, deep pocket individuals whi knew Epstein socially but were not involved in his perverted activities & distanced themselves when they learned of them
Re, zerohedge -- anything of theirs I've posted has proven to be accurate. They quote their media sources.
He used the WT to make his point....."Journalist sources told The Washington Times".

So this is your proof that Trump had no nefarious relationship with Epstein. Got it.
Same sources cited by Vox (follow the links)
https://www.vox.com/2019/7/9/20686347/j ... ll-clinton
The youtube clip shows Edwards himself.
From your link - "So there hasn’t yet been corroboration of Epstein-related wrongdoing on Trump’s part by media outlets, or any accusation against Clinton at all. But the question of whether other influential figures will be implicated in Epstein’s crimes remains an open one."

So not enough facts to accuse anyone of anything, except Epstein. Agree?
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So not enough facts to accuse anyone of anything, except Epstein. Agree?
Agree. I'd be skeptical of any accusations made by Katie Johnson & Virginia Roberts Giuffre.
Brad Edwards obviously has some legit clients, but some may also be embellishing their claims or making false accusations.
Most Federal Prosecutors won't make public statements without first investigating the accusations. Big task in this case.
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old salt wrote: Thu Jul 18, 2019 2:56 pm
old salt wrote: Thu Jul 18, 2019 2:43 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:14 pm
old salt wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2019 4:39 pm
When a minor victim from after Epstein's release from jail is identified, I'll jump on the blame Acosta bandwagon.
Until then, Acosta is just a way to hang this on Trump, rather than on Epstein, his enablers, & his elitist cronies who looked the other way.

My wife of 47 years will be surprised to learn that I have no women in my life, ...if I had the nerve to tell her.
You understand these weren't your typical gold-digging tripe The Donald dated/married/divorced/married/divorced, these are girls sold in to sexual slavery. So "Lolita" is supposed to be funny? You think these children were "looking for it"
Evidence ? Credible accuser ?

Sex slavery. The girls in NBC'a Mar-a-lago video were the Buffalo Bills & Miami Dolphins cheerleaders.
Ok, here's one. Still 'in jail', but of course it really wasn't jail as we'd normally understand it!

https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/16/us/jeffr ... index.html
That accusation is not from a prosecutor. It's from the plantiff's attorney representing several of Epstein's alleged victims, most notably Virginia Roberts, who was discredited in her civil case.

Don't sucker for anything a defense or plantiff's lawyer says.
Wait for a Prosecutor or US Atty to make a specific allegation.
Note what that attorney, Brad Edwards, had to say about Trump in 2018.
Also note the attempts by Glenn Simpson & Fusion GPS to promote a Trump -- Epstein connection.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-07- ... stein-case

Following a 2018 financial settlement between Florida attorney Bradley Edwards - who represented one of Epstein's accusers, only to be later sued by Epstein, Edwards claimed that Donald Trump was the 'only person' who provided assistance when Edwards served subpoenas and notices to high-profile individuals connected to Epstein.

Edwards: The only thing that I can say about President Trump is that he is the only person who, in 2009 when I served a lot of subpoenas on a lot of people, or at least gave notice to some pretty connected people, that I want to talk to them, is the only person who picked up the phone and said, let’s just talk. I’ll give you as much time as you want. I’ll tell you what you need to know, and was very helpful, in the information that he gave, and gave no indication whatsoever that he was involved in anything untoward whatsoever, but had good information. That checked out and that helped us and we didn’t have to take a deposition of him in 2009.

Great, so I think we have re-confimed that your only concern is to protect Der Leader's reputation.

Listen, there was obviously a long 'connection' between Epstein and Trump. Lots and lots of evidence of them palling around together, ogling women etc. And we know, in Trump's own words that he was aware of Epstein 'liking them younger'.

But hey, that doesn't men he was on the wrong end of the Acosta sweetheart deal. He may well have had zero to do with it, could have totally clean hands. If so, terrific.

Maybe Clinton was more involved. Whole bunch of men, 'dogs' all, who were Epstein pals. Clinton is indeed one such high profile pal.

Whoever leaned in on his behalf should be nailed. I don't care who it is.

All you care about is trying to make a case that Epstein was magically reformed when he was given the sweetheart deal, and thus, Acosta didn't do anything wrong, and, thus Trump didn't do anything wrong by appointing him... Judge Roy is a good guy too, probably hasn't taken any children to bed in a while too...
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Blah, blah, blah. How 'bout the name of an accuser & the date she was abused, after to the plea deal.

You should apply for work as a flack for Fusion GPS.
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One theory circulating on the motivation for the sweetheart plea deal :

Prince Andrew's involvement prompted the Brits to pressure the Bush Admin to quietly resolve the situation, & they caved, in deference to our critical Iraq War ally. Even after the plea deal, Andrew refused to disavow Epstein, who hosted him for a 4 day NYC "state visit" & picked up Fergie's private debt.

Jul '07 -- Acosta's office prepared the 53 page indictment & began negotiations with Epstein's legal dream team.
Oct '07 -- Acosrta holds hotel mtg with Epstein lawyer & seals the deal.
Nov '97 -- AG Fredo Gonzalez resigns, replaced by acting AG Mukasey.
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Great. Another scandal where you need a PhD in Archeology to properly name and catalog all the players involved.
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a fan wrote: Fri Jul 19, 2019 1:22 pm Great. Another scandal where you need a PhD in Archeology to properly name and catalog all the players involved.
:lol:

Palm Beach Sheriff opens internal affairs investigation on how his own deputies handled the Epstein work release during his imprisonment...

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/state/ ... 79877.html
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old salt wrote: Fri Jul 19, 2019 1:19 pm One theory circulating on the motivation for the sweetheart plea deal :

Prince Andrew's involvement prompted the Brits to pressure the Bush Admin to quietly resolve the situation, & they caved, in deference to our critical Iraq War ally. Even after the plea deal, Andrew refused to disavow Epstein, who hosted him for a 4 day NYC "state visit" in Dec 2010, & picked up Fergie's private debt.

Jul '07 -- Acosta's office prepared the 53 page indictment & began negotiations with Epstein's legal dream team.
Oct '07 -- Acosrta holds hotel mtg with Epstein lawyer & seals the deal.
Nov '97 -- AG Fredo Gonzalez resigns, replaced by acting AG Mukasey.
Update -- WP reports that Epstein signed the plea deal June 30, 2008. Sentence completed July 21, 2010. With 5 mos house arrest for good time, served only 13 mos in PB min security stockade, with daily 12 hr work release, except Sun & holidays.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/investig ... 7f1d5d7005
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Trump campaign adviser and intermediary to Saudi Arabia, Russia, and the United Arab Emirates George Nader was indicted on child pornography and child sex transportation charges today..." Including a 14 year old boy.

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Trinity wrote: Fri Jul 19, 2019 4:26 pm Trump campaign adviser and intermediary to Saudi Arabia, Russia, and the United Arab Emirates George Nader was indicted on child pornography and child sex transportation charges today..." Including a 14 year old boy.

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Who else on earth is closely connected to at least two pedos?
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Trinity wrote: Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:54 pm Who else on earth is closely connected to at least two pedos?
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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https://www.axios.com/george-nader-sex- ... 71e13.html

Trump’s Transition team liaison to Russia ( besides Mike Flynn) and the ME. Set up the Seychelles meeting with Erik Prince and the Russians. The Media should ask the Transition Head Mike Pence about this sicko.
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Trinity wrote: Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:54 pm Who else on earth is closely connected to at least two pedos?
ummmmm I know one...... Ghislaine Maxwell, who is snugly and cozy with Chelsea and the Clinton Cartel. And coincidentally, her non-profit is no longer up and running Terra Mar

Maybe what we are learning more and more, is that by being in a higher political office, there is a certain corruption one must either look the other way or actually be somewhat involved with.....either way, you are linked and or associated with it.
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youthathletics wrote: Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:31 pm
Trinity wrote: Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:54 pm Who else on earth is closely connected to at least two pedos?
ummmmm I know one...... Ghislaine Maxwell, who is snugly and cozy with Chelsea and the Clinton Cartel. And coincidentally, her non-profit is no longer up and running Terra Mar

Maybe what we are learning more and more, is that by being in a higher political office, there is a certain corruption one must either look the other way or actually be somewhat involved with.....either way, you are linked and or associated with it.
Pedophiles? Hadn't heard that about the Clintons, but lots of other dirt bag behavior.

Ghislaine was the procurer for Epstein, so, sure, she probably knows more than one pedophile, certainly a lot of rich and famous dirt bags.

But yeah, there are a lot of dirtbags out there of all sorts...
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The Jeffrey appeals his bail decision to Ct of Appeals.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/23/jeffrey ... -case.html
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