Jack is still saltyLaxattackjack wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2024 12:46 pmno depth? doesn’t stevenson have like 65 on the roster?StevieUAlum wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2024 12:25 pm Proud of the season the Mustangs had and getting the program back into the tournament and on the national radar again.
Sunday the boys just didn't have the depth to hang for a full game. Was 9-5 at one point but Tuffs depth really showed and with no answer at the faceoff dot, the task became too daunting to overcome.
Whole offense returns while the the entire defense graduates. Will be tough replacing guys like Quine and Mulvey, staples down low for 5 years.
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StevieUAlum wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2024 12:48 pmJack is still saltyLaxattackjack wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2024 12:46 pmno depth? doesn’t stevenson have like 65 on the roster?StevieUAlum wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2024 12:25 pm Proud of the season the Mustangs had and getting the program back into the tournament and on the national radar again.
Sunday the boys just didn't have the depth to hang for a full game. Was 9-5 at one point but Tuffs depth really showed and with no answer at the faceoff dot, the task became too daunting to overcome.
Whole offense returns while the the entire defense graduates. Will be tough replacing guys like Quine and Mulvey, staples down low for 5 years.
York vs Stevenson again in 2025 in MAC-C championship. York wins. Very early but I do believe York will play motivated in 2025.
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Pretty bold statement. Both teams are losing some key pieces. This year was Cantabene's best coaching job arguably ever given what he had. York was underwhelming but Childs is a top 10 coach in the D3, they will be back.laxrules wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2024 12:18 amStevieUAlum wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2024 12:48 pmJack is still saltyLaxattackjack wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2024 12:46 pmno depth? doesn’t stevenson have like 65 on the roster?StevieUAlum wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2024 12:25 pm Proud of the season the Mustangs had and getting the program back into the tournament and on the national radar again.
Sunday the boys just didn't have the depth to hang for a full game. Was 9-5 at one point but Tuffs depth really showed and with no answer at the faceoff dot, the task became too daunting to overcome.
Whole offense returns while the the entire defense graduates. Will be tough replacing guys like Quine and Mulvey, staples down low for 5 years.
York vs Stevenson again in 2025 in MAC-C championship. York wins. Very early but I do believe York will play motivated in 2025.
Personally my bias towards Stevenson has me leaning towards them in 2025. Tons of youth on offense and the faceoff dot that got tons of reps this year in big games and got some tournament experience. Stevenson had the two best freshman in the league this year and one was ROY, they happen to both play on the same attack line. Will be hard to stop.
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kind of early to make predictions. we know both teams are losing kids to graduation. someone already mentioned that york is losing kids to the portal. someone else mentioned that some of the cabrini kids are considering york. until we start to hear who is back , we really can’t make any predictions.
all i can say with confidence is york and stevenson will still make the mac playoffs.
messiah returns all attack and they all were mentioned on the all mac team. that group put up almost 20 on both york and stevenson. and both york and stevenson are losing defensive starters to graduation. i am sure messiah will be in the mix.
eastern is losing some talent also. hard to say if they will still have enough to compete in the mac.
hood is getting stronger.
beyond that, i dont see anyone else in the MAC competing.
all i can say with confidence is york and stevenson will still make the mac playoffs.
messiah returns all attack and they all were mentioned on the all mac team. that group put up almost 20 on both york and stevenson. and both york and stevenson are losing defensive starters to graduation. i am sure messiah will be in the mix.
eastern is losing some talent also. hard to say if they will still have enough to compete in the mac.
hood is getting stronger.
beyond that, i dont see anyone else in the MAC competing.
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Read that Cabrinis top scorer is considering York, RIT, CNU, and Bury.Laxattackjack wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2024 7:35 am kind of early to make predictions. we know both teams are losing kids to graduation. someone already mentioned that york is losing kids to the portal. someone else mentioned that some of the cabrini kids are considering york. until we start to hear who is back , we really can’t make any predictions.
all i can say with confidence is york and stevenson will still make the mac playoffs.
messiah returns all attack and they all were mentioned on the all mac team. that group put up almost 20 on both york and stevenson. and both york and stevenson are losing defensive starters to graduation. i am sure messiah will be in the mix.
eastern is losing some talent also. hard to say if they will still have enough to compete in the mac.
hood is getting stronger.
beyond that, i dont see anyone else in the MAC competing.
Pretty cool stuff, talent attracts talent hoping both teams can benefit from the portal.
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York has more than enough talent to rebound next year. This will be the first time in a while where it feels like regular college and team have to replace players and there will be few 5th and 6th year guys on teams rosters. I would say that they have players in the program that will replace even the current portal guys. They have solid replacements at the faceoff X as well
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i am not seeing enough players on the bench to replace 4 of 6 starters on offense and 4 of 6 on defense. york will have to use the portal.Asgot wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2024 9:26 am York has more than enough talent to rebound next year. This will be the first time in a while where it feels like regular college and team have to replace players and there will be few 5th and 6th year guys on teams rosters. I would say that they have players in the program that will replace even the current portal guys. They have solid replacements at the faceoff X as well
Does York even have a righty to play attack on the roster?
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I am sure that they are on the roster, but it seemed to me watching from afar that the offense was far more positionless than it had been in the past as they played several middies at attack and a ton of attackmen at midfield.
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Connor, a true soph, is LEGIT. See him contributing anywhere he lands He's a DAWG.StevieUAlum wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2024 12:15 pmRead that Cabrinis top scorer is considering York, RIT, CNU, and Bury.Laxattackjack wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2024 7:35 am kind of early to make predictions. we know both teams are losing kids to graduation. someone already mentioned that york is losing kids to the portal. someone else mentioned that some of the cabrini kids are considering york. until we start to hear who is back , we really can’t make any predictions.
all i can say with confidence is york and stevenson will still make the mac playoffs.
messiah returns all attack and they all were mentioned on the all mac team. that group put up almost 20 on both york and stevenson. and both york and stevenson are losing defensive starters to graduation. i am sure messiah will be in the mix.
eastern is losing some talent also. hard to say if they will still have enough to compete in the mac.
hood is getting stronger.
beyond that, i dont see anyone else in the MAC competing.
Pretty cool stuff, talent attracts talent hoping both teams can benefit from the portal.
Eastern is going to be very blah next year IMO. I don't think they upgraded with Wallace's departure/outgoing staff. Some quality on the roster, but not enough.
Messiah could be fascinating.
YCP is due for a banger.
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Jack is accurate. I struggle to understand the parental/player decision to attend with those numbers, always have. Everyone knows it's an admissions play. I'm not hating on it. Wish Cabrini put 500 kids on the roster, maybe we'd still be alive and solvent.StevieUAlum wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2024 12:48 pmJack is still saltyLaxattackjack wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2024 12:46 pmno depth? doesn’t stevenson have like 65 on the roster?StevieUAlum wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2024 12:25 pm Proud of the season the Mustangs had and getting the program back into the tournament and on the national radar again.
Sunday the boys just didn't have the depth to hang for a full game. Was 9-5 at one point but Tuffs depth really showed and with no answer at the faceoff dot, the task became too daunting to overcome.
Whole offense returns while the the entire defense graduates. Will be tough replacing guys like Quine and Mulvey, staples down low for 5 years.
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Looks like 67 on the roster this year. Which is about 6.5% of the male undergrad population. Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life and having 67 players is no way to run a practice.MVPiccoli wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2024 10:07 pmJack is accurate. I struggle to understand the parental/player decision to attend with those numbers, always have. Everyone knows it's an admissions play. I'm not hating on it. Wish Cabrini put 500 kids on the roster, maybe we'd still be alive and solvent.StevieUAlum wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2024 12:48 pmJack is still saltyLaxattackjack wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2024 12:46 pmno depth? doesn’t stevenson have like 65 on the roster?StevieUAlum wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2024 12:25 pm Proud of the season the Mustangs had and getting the program back into the tournament and on the national radar again.
Sunday the boys just didn't have the depth to hang for a full game. Was 9-5 at one point but Tuffs depth really showed and with no answer at the faceoff dot, the task became too daunting to overcome.
Whole offense returns while the the entire defense graduates. Will be tough replacing guys like Quine and Mulvey, staples down low for 5 years.
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any rumors on york roster additions?
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Nothing new from what I have seen.
Bigtime York fan here, but it's time for a real conversation. After watching the Tufts vs. RIT game this weekend, which may have been one of the greatest games I have seen in a long time and easily the game of the weekend, I cant help but think how York would have faired. Truth is, it seems like York is still a long way away from hanging with the big boys that seem to score at will. I dont mean to only have a good season, win the MAC, get to the NCAA (any of which would have been nice this year), I mean TRULY taking the step to the next level to compete for a title and potentially win if given a chance.
Changes in the offensive scheme, more northern or true canadian box players, more emphasis on personal player development, what is it?
Bigtime York fan here, but it's time for a real conversation. After watching the Tufts vs. RIT game this weekend, which may have been one of the greatest games I have seen in a long time and easily the game of the weekend, I cant help but think how York would have faired. Truth is, it seems like York is still a long way away from hanging with the big boys that seem to score at will. I dont mean to only have a good season, win the MAC, get to the NCAA (any of which would have been nice this year), I mean TRULY taking the step to the next level to compete for a title and potentially win if given a chance.
Changes in the offensive scheme, more northern or true canadian box players, more emphasis on personal player development, what is it?
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Man, I don't think you need to chase "box" players. YCP has it's own identity. You just need to keep your nose to the recruiting grindstone and get a little lucky. The 2019 Cabrini team that won it all was not our most talented roster overall. We couldn't score at will. That roster had INCREDIBLE player ownership. Timmy Brooks enrolled after all he went through. He addressed the team, joined the team and he was magical in aligning the players along with the other leaders. The seniors, before the 2019 season had a seniors only (I believe) trip down to the Jersey Shore. They set their goals, called out their challenging traits, and fully bought in to being 1-0 everyday. When they lost to YCP and the Gulls in the regular season, they weren't healthy. Kostack and others got healthy and they made their run. Belief, buy-in across the roster. Those are the magic. I know I overuse all my Cabrini experience and our program to illustrate stuff. YCP is on the cusp.
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In my opinion I think it will be hard for York to consistently be considered a top echelon team. The two positives are that they have a great head coach, which is very important, and they play in a weak conference and should make the tournament each year. Beyond that I'm not sure it has enough going for it to attract the best recruits year after year. The school is not ranked that high in terms of academics. The campus is not that attractive and is spilt up so the lax field does not really feel like it's a part of the school.
In the last few seasons they have had some players that have been exceptional. It is very hard to get/develop that same quality of player.
The loss to Eastern was inexcusable and top teams simply don't lose those type of games.
They don't seem to have a boat load of top end talent returning for next year. They have good players but maybe not the elite type that you need to contend in May. They strike me as a team trending towards top 30 rather than top 10.
If they have another year or two where they don't make the tournament then recruiting will get that much tougher.
In the last few seasons they have had some players that have been exceptional. It is very hard to get/develop that same quality of player.
The loss to Eastern was inexcusable and top teams simply don't lose those type of games.
They don't seem to have a boat load of top end talent returning for next year. They have good players but maybe not the elite type that you need to contend in May. They strike me as a team trending towards top 30 rather than top 10.
If they have another year or two where they don't make the tournament then recruiting will get that much tougher.
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York has a lot of holes to fill. Looking at this roster that is expected to return, I see two players with any NCAA Tournament experience.
They have been a top 20 team for over 10 years. They are established and shouldn’t have any trouble recruiting. Teams like Salisbury and Tufts will always have an advantage recruiting. But everyone else will have some challenges. RIT is too cold. York campus isn’t pretty, CNU is in a rough town, W&L is in the middle of nowhere and has a low acceptance rate. Every team has some challenges
As for the Eastern loss, it was bad, but it happens. Tufts just won the championship after losing in the first round to an unranked team. Good teams overlook inferior teams all of the time.
There is a lot of talent in the portal and York has the advantage to offer significant playing time. That is something that many other teams can’t offer.
They have been a top 20 team for over 10 years. They are established and shouldn’t have any trouble recruiting. Teams like Salisbury and Tufts will always have an advantage recruiting. But everyone else will have some challenges. RIT is too cold. York campus isn’t pretty, CNU is in a rough town, W&L is in the middle of nowhere and has a low acceptance rate. Every team has some challenges
As for the Eastern loss, it was bad, but it happens. Tufts just won the championship after losing in the first round to an unranked team. Good teams overlook inferior teams all of the time.
There is a lot of talent in the portal and York has the advantage to offer significant playing time. That is something that many other teams can’t offer.
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What does that say (& do) to the mass of kids already on the roster waiting to make their impact?flyealgesfly wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2024 12:46 pm There is a lot of talent in the portal and York has the advantage to offer significant playing time. That is something that many other teams can’t offer.
As Covid bonus years begin to dry up (for the 25+ year olds), 4 yr impact players become relevant again.
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It says work hard and get better. York went 10-8 and lost to EASTERN. The talent on this team is clearly lacking.NElaxtalent wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2024 4:38 pmWhat does that say (& do) to the mass of kids already on the roster waiting to make their impact?flyealgesfly wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2024 12:46 pm There is a lot of talent in the portal and York has the advantage to offer significant playing time. That is something that many other teams can’t offer.
As Covid bonus years begin to dry up (for the 25+ year olds), 4 yr impact players become relevant again.
Coach Child’s does not owe these kids who are “waiting for play time” any sort of minutes on the field. If they were good enough to be playing then they would be playing. His job is to put the best product on the field and if some solid transfers want to come and play for York, he should bring them in.
If the kids who are waiting for play time want to get on the field, then they need to earn their minutes. My favorite saying from a coach is “if you’re pissed at the amount of playing time you are getting, make it impossible for me to not put you out there”.
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Understood and I fully agree with especially from the perspective of the HC and Program itself.Laxguy703 wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2024 4:54 pmIt says work hard and get better. York went 10-8 and lost to EASTERN. The talent on this team is clearly lacking.NElaxtalent wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2024 4:38 pmWhat does that say (& do) to the mass of kids already on the roster waiting to make their impact?flyealgesfly wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2024 12:46 pm There is a lot of talent in the portal and York has the advantage to offer significant playing time. That is something that many other teams can’t offer.
As Covid bonus years begin to dry up (for the 25+ year olds), 4 yr impact players become relevant again.
Coach Child’s does not owe these kids who are “waiting for play time” any sort of minutes on the field. If they were good enough to be playing then they would be playing. His job is to put the best product on the field and if some solid transfers want to come and play for York, he should bring them in.
If the kids who are waiting for play time want to get on the field, then they need to earn their minutes. My favorite saying from a coach is “if you’re pissed at the amount of playing time you are getting, make it impossible for me to not put you out there”.
From the Jr/So/Fr athlete's perspective, who was stuck behind returning 5th/6th yr Covid players, many of them feel they've never been given a real shot to compete. Perhaps they have, perhaps they haven't.
Either way, it can make for a tough locker room for transfers to simply parachute into. It isn't a life-or-death, "Lacrosse W's or Bust" D-1 mentality. It's D-3, work your butt to compete while you love your time playing with your lifelong friends.
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I mean, they did beat W&L, who it turns out was pretty talented, just saying.
Honestly, I think the record is more easily attributed to never actually settling in on an offensive package. Some things worked, and they were changed anyway. Some things didn’t work, and they weren’t properly corrected. Hopefully some lessons were learned, namely the in game adjustments that are required to have a team actually closeout a few more of those close/winnable OOC games they had this year versus the juggernauts of DIII.
The absolute egg laid against Eastern was brutal. Clearly they were looking past the team, and unlike the other teams listed above who did the same, York had unfortunately played their way into a win or go home scenario.
Forum people will downplay the losses, noting the portal opportunities, but that just hasn’t been York’s MO.NElaxtalent wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2024 5:25 pm …Either way, it can make for a tough locker room for transfers to simply parachute into...
I know the idea of a transfer sounds spicy. I myself have enjoyed posting them about York, Messiah, Stevens and others. But the reality is, at least in York’s case, they haven’t grabbed that many transfers. And the ones they have, often rarely see the field in an impactful manner.
There wasn’t a DI caliber 6’3” lefty attackman sitting on the bench waiting for his shot this year to replace the last year’s big loss. But for the coming season, unlike 703, I think the talent down the line will be able to backfill this year’s losses. Just my .02
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