Like the Ivies, the Bloomberg dough makes it possible for need-blind admissions coupled with very generous need-based financial aid. The discussion the coach would have would be on how to contact the financial aid office to determine what the family would be eligible for given their personal facts.jhu06 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 16, 2023 3:39 pmhttps://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/ ... fany/6196751percentcorn wrote: ↑Wed Aug 16, 2023 1:01 pmNot exactly - This is where a reasonable schedule discussion comes into play, UVA had 9 incoming true freshmen on the roster - I will admit if they red-shirted someone before the season and left them off the roster I do not know but Sunderland appeared in 16 games, Eldridge appeared in 11. Jones appeared in 8, Till and Myers appeared in 6 each. The other 4 DNP. So UVA was able to keep most of their freshmen engaged in part because they are beating Richmond by 17 and Lafeyette by 9. Also - having a great school - an incredibly successful program and many toys to make a beautiful campus all the more attractive gives them the ability to manage their intake. This years class is 10 - last years looks like it was 9 - next years is 9. They'll have some red-shirts and some transfers probably but it certainly appears they are targeting a roster of 40 not close to 60. The incoming class this year - if IL is to be believed - has Millon and alot of middies - I'm not up on UVA eligibility but Conner/Garno and McConvey were all listed as Grad Students or Senior so they are gone or will be gone after this year - plus Xander is gone too - so looks like there are opportunites for middies/offensive players.
I have repeatedly said that there was a need for a large class to replace the forced exodus next year but it creates some management for this coming year.
Really good podcast with IL. Of all the rival coaches, I've always been most impressed through the years on these things with Tiffany. Comes off more as a NOLS/Outward Bound type communicator who tries to understand and relate to kids/people on a personal level than some of the other stuff we've seen. My obvious question for Hopkins here was how the $1.8 Bloomberg gift works. I'm sure Milliman can't directly say to a top recruit whose parents might be teachers and not able to afford Hopkins the way other parents might, well we're not offering you a full scholarship but we can make it work, right?
I don't know whether Hopkins allows coaches to discuss this with the financial aid office directly, the Ivies' coaches are by league agreement and rule not allowed to do so. And the Ivy financial aid office generally points to a calculator on the web, but won't speak specifics until after the Admission office issues and acceptance letter. Athletes normally go ED, so that's in the late fall of senior year. I recall perhaps December time frame.
Hopkins' situation may well be more flexible. But I think the complicating factor is whether one also gets athletic aid, something the Ivies can't do...if I recall correctly there are some NCAA rules about layering of aid...
I may be wrong, but I think there's incentive to only do athletic aid if need-based doesn't do better...generally don't layer? Help...
But the 2 teacher example is likely to be one in which need-based covers most everything.