old salt wrote: ↑Sat Mar 05, 2022 9:51 pm
We're seeing the limits of sanctions & diplomacy in deterrence & containment.
They are ineffective without a credible military deterrence (which can be used) behind them.
It may be too late to save Ukraine.
We may have to accept that reality & use it as motivation to prevent Putin (& Xi) from grabbing more.
Our challenge is to protect our NATO allies, particularly the Baltics, & deter the taking of Taiwan, Georgia, & Moldova
& propping up any part of Ukraine which survives.
Why sanctions?
Nobody imposed any on the USA when imperialist Bush began his campaigns of colonialist terrorism on Afghanistan & Iraq while threatening Iran. Nobody even tried to use diplomacy to stop his terrorism but, on the contrary, supported him either thru finances, tactical help, or thru silence and acquiescence.
Too late to save Ukraine?
What do you mean by "save"? That's their problem, not ours. If Ukrainians want to rid their land of Russians let them fight for themselves. Nobody helped Afghanistan or Iraq from Bush imperialism. Those heroic people fought on their own and forced out the imperialists. Ukrainians need to follow their example. Bear in mind that Washington DC did not recognize the Confederacy and Moscow chooses not to recognize Kyiv. Same difference, right?
NATO?
Why not ally with Russia instead? That's thwart anyone else's imperial plans better than anything else.
Taiwan?
Taiwan belongs to China. We've gone over that before.
Georgia?
That's the land of Stalin. Abkhazia and South Ossetia are recognized as independent states. All Georgia need do is to enter into negotiations for similar recognition by Moscow, just like Donetsk & Luhansk.
Moldova?
Putin may well be interested in Transnistrian if its independence minded populace aligns itself with him. Doubtful that he wants the rest of that land knowing how its population is ethnically Romanian and has no interest in Russia whatsoever.
Whatever the case, the USA has no business getting involved in any of these conflicts. Their troubles have been going on for centuries and we know nothing about them. No sense in getting involved in something we know nothing about and which fails to benefit us in any way. Let those people sort out their own problems. The world looked the other way as the US took to playing Hitler with the Middle East. Eventually it was defeated by the heroic and patriotic efforts of nationals in their land. If Russia invades let's look the other way just exactly as they did with us. Eventually they will be defeated. Napoleon, Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, and Bush invaded and were all defeated. If Putin's actions are imperialist invasions he will learn this lesson as well.