Also it cannot yet be excluded that a vaccinated person be a carrier - no real information on that yet...CU88 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 10:38 am Vaccine needs time.
Why do I have to continue with precautions after I've been vaccinated?
In the short run, it will take some time for the vaccine's effectiveness to build up. (Effectiveness is defined as not getting sick with COVID-19. If 100 vaccinated people are exposed to a virus and 50 of them subsequently develop symptoms, that vaccine is 50% effective.)
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-sho ... vid-19-vac
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great....so all the bars can have 2nd shot vaxx happy hours, documentation required, but masks are not. In fact, old school drinking game tournaments should start. what, with a 95% effective rate and all.CU88 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 10:38 am Vaccine needs time.
Why do I have to continue with precautions after I've been vaccinated?
In the short run, it will take some time for the vaccine's effectiveness to build up. (Effectiveness is defined as not getting sick with COVID-19. If 100 vaccinated people are exposed to a virus and 50 of them subsequently develop symptoms, that vaccine is 50% effective.)
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-sho ... vid-19-vac
Think of all the maskless superbowl parties one can have........plenty of time. Family members just got their second shots.........one not too happy with the 2nd vaxx shot symptoms . Might have to take a few days off......not good when you are doctor. oh well.
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poorly worded and inaccurate by the author. it doesn't mean 50% develop symptoms. it actually means 50% fewer people developed symptoms than the non-vaccinated group, predicating that 50% of the vaccine population is/was "protected" from symptoms for that stretch of time.CU88 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 10:38 am Vaccine needs time.
Why do I have to continue with precautions after I've been vaccinated?
In the short run, it will take some time for the vaccine's effectiveness to build up. (Effectiveness is defined as not getting sick with COVID-19. If 100 vaccinated people are exposed to a virus and 50 of them subsequently develop symptoms, that vaccine is 50% effective.
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-sho ... vid-19-vac
by the article, don't agree that running regular covid tests on trial participants would've slowed things down. it would've cost a good deal more money and effort than just logging several hundred symptom cases, but would've provided that info and could've been run in parallel. they weren't asked for it, and thus didn't do it.
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Why is everything with you always have to tie into Trump? What's wrong with Kram questioning the WHO. News for you, MANY have. They have lost a tremendous amount of credibility in the past year+. Issue these kind of statements only to walk them back, alter them, clarify shortly thereafter. Their messaging has been very poor.
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I'd trust this thread more than the garbage that Trump spewed month after month.JoeMauer89 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 12:26 pmWhy is everything with you always have to tie into Trump? What's wrong with Kram questioning the WHO. News for you, MANY have. They have lost a tremendous amount of credibility in the past year+. Issue these kind of statements only to walk them back, alter them, clarify shortly thereafter. Their messaging has been very poor.
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Understood, but who in this thread trusted the garbage Trump spewed? My point is that Kram questioning the WHO credibility DOES NOT mean he trusted the garbage that Trump spewed. There shouldn't be any causality there. Emotions should be left out of it.foreverlax wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 1:10 pmI'd trust this thread more than the garbage that Trump spewed month after month.JoeMauer89 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 12:26 pmWhy is everything with you always have to tie into Trump? What's wrong with Kram questioning the WHO. News for you, MANY have. They have lost a tremendous amount of credibility in the past year+. Issue these kind of statements only to walk them back, alter them, clarify shortly thereafter. Their messaging has been very poor.
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I didn't suggest we listen to Trump.
Comparing the WHO (or Biden or anything else) to Trump may make those things seem RELATIVELY reliable or good.
But that does not make them ACTUALLY reliable or good.
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Sure, and yet here we are...bunch of heck idiots banging out our pearls of wisdom, sprinkled with snark when appropriate.JoeMauer89 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 1:56 pmUnderstood, but who in this thread trusted the garbage Trump spewed? My point is that Kram questioning the WHO credibility DOES NOT mean he trusted the garbage that Trump spewed. There shouldn't be any causality there. Emotions should be left out of it.foreverlax wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 1:10 pmI'd trust this thread more than the garbage that Trump spewed month after month.JoeMauer89 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 12:26 pmWhy is everything with you always have to tie into Trump? What's wrong with Kram questioning the WHO. News for you, MANY have. They have lost a tremendous amount of credibility in the past year+. Issue these kind of statements only to walk them back, alter them, clarify shortly thereafter. Their messaging has been very poor.
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Oh, those posters left the building after the election....JoeMauer89 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 1:56 pm Understood, but who in this thread trusted the garbage Trump spewed?
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chuckle...Petey, Bandito...the almost good old days.a fan wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 3:18 pmOh, those posters left the building after the election....JoeMauer89 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 1:56 pm Understood, but who in this thread trusted the garbage Trump spewed?
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AMEN.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 1:57 pmI didn't suggest we listen to Trump.
Comparing the WHO (or Biden or anything else) to Trump may make those things seem RELATIVELY reliable or good.
But that does not make them ACTUALLY reliable or good.
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Rep. Bonnie Watson Coleman: I'm 75. I had cancer. I got COVID-19 because my GOP colleagues dismiss facts.
"Refusing to wear a mask is not, in fact, an act of self-expression. It's an act of public endangerment."
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"Refusing to wear a mask is not, in fact, an act of self-expression. It's an act of public endangerment."
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Just another case of Republican maskholes spreading their vermin.
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Did any of our current poster cohort post on this thread or on other threads when Covid was mentioned describe the virus as 'just another flu'? Or blame the Chinese for our escalating death rate? Or suggest that wearing masks was really just a matter of personal freedom? Or anything else that threw shade on the notion that the pandemic was of the gravest concern? Or for that matter that there was a miracle drug that solved the problem..."get back to work" therefore?a fan wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 3:18 pmOh, those posters left the building after the election....JoeMauer89 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 1:56 pm Understood, but who in this thread trusted the garbage Trump spewed?
Pretty sure no one argued for bleach, but seems to me I recall someone debating whether light might be used...I'd cut someone some slack on that one for pure curiosity, but man...
Let's just say that there's been a lot of crazy town response to what has been most assuredly the worst public health crisis in the US in our lifetimes. Trump at the forefront...
Which has certainly been hard to swallow for those who otherwise supported him.
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Another Record Day for U.S. Covid-19 Deaths; World Death Toll Nears Two Million
According to Johns Hopkins, the U.S. tallied more than 4,300 Covid-19 deaths in a single day on Tuesday. Two weeks into 2021, the U.S. has already experienced multiple record-breaking days, with five of the highest single-day death tolls occurring in the new year (AP, CNN). The seven-day average for Covid-19 deaths in the U.S. is now over 3,300, and more than 380,000 have died since the start of the pandemic. Around the world, nearly two million people have died.
Experts say that the situation in the U.S. is likely to remain serious through the winter. However, they are hopeful that things could turn around in the summer. Dr. Paul Offitt, a member of the U.S. Food and Drug Administration’s Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee, said that through a combination of mass vaccinations, warmer weather and new policies by the incoming administration, the U.S. could see marked improvement toward the middle of 2021.
According to Johns Hopkins, the U.S. tallied more than 4,300 Covid-19 deaths in a single day on Tuesday. Two weeks into 2021, the U.S. has already experienced multiple record-breaking days, with five of the highest single-day death tolls occurring in the new year (AP, CNN). The seven-day average for Covid-19 deaths in the U.S. is now over 3,300, and more than 380,000 have died since the start of the pandemic. Around the world, nearly two million people have died.
Experts say that the situation in the U.S. is likely to remain serious through the winter. However, they are hopeful that things could turn around in the summer. Dr. Paul Offitt, a member of the U.S. Food and Drug Administration’s Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee, said that through a combination of mass vaccinations, warmer weather and new policies by the incoming administration, the U.S. could see marked improvement toward the middle of 2021.
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Shocker
CDC Report Finds Earlier and More Stringent Implementation of Covid-19 Prevention Methods Key to Saving Lives
A report published in the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report analyzed data from 37 European countries to assess which mitigation policies were more effective at preventing loss of life (NYT). According to the report, timing and stringency of the policies strongly affected the mortality rate. Countries that imposed strict measures soon after experiencing outbreaks saw fewer deaths than those with looser guidelines or those who implemented mitigation policies later. According to the report, even small delays in implementing policies like border closures, stay-at-home orders and physical distancing directives resulted in large increases in loss of life. The researchers estimated that if the 26 countries with the most relaxed mitigation policies had followed the lead of countries with more stringent policies, approximately 74,000 deaths could have been prevented.
CDC Report Finds Earlier and More Stringent Implementation of Covid-19 Prevention Methods Key to Saving Lives
A report published in the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report analyzed data from 37 European countries to assess which mitigation policies were more effective at preventing loss of life (NYT). According to the report, timing and stringency of the policies strongly affected the mortality rate. Countries that imposed strict measures soon after experiencing outbreaks saw fewer deaths than those with looser guidelines or those who implemented mitigation policies later. According to the report, even small delays in implementing policies like border closures, stay-at-home orders and physical distancing directives resulted in large increases in loss of life. The researchers estimated that if the 26 countries with the most relaxed mitigation policies had followed the lead of countries with more stringent policies, approximately 74,000 deaths could have been prevented.
by cradleandshoot » Fri Aug 13, 2021 8:57 am
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Dud.......no link....no value.CU88 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:30 pm Shocker
CDC Report Finds Earlier and More Stringent Implementation of Covid-19 Prevention Methods Key to Saving Lives
A report published in the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report analyzed data from 37 European countries to assess which mitigation policies were more effective at preventing loss of life (NYT). According to the report, timing and stringency of the policies strongly affected the mortality rate. Countries that imposed strict measures soon after experiencing outbreaks saw fewer deaths than those with looser guidelines or those who implemented mitigation policies later. According to the report, even small delays in implementing policies like border closures, stay-at-home orders and physical distancing directives resulted in large increases in loss of life. The researchers estimated that if the 26 countries with the most relaxed mitigation policies had followed the lead of countries with more stringent policies, approximately 74,000 deaths could have been prevented.
Sure would love to read this report.
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Won't provide a link to this CDC report either....guess it's not required to be accurate
https://principia-scientific.com/cdc-re ... 9-vaccine/
3150 People Given COVID-19 Vaccine Unable To Perform Normal Daily Activities
According to the CDC, as of December 18, 2020, 3,150 people who were vaccinated against COVID-19 became “unable to perform normal daily activities, are unable to work and required care from doctor or health care professional.”
The V-safe Active Surveillance for COVID-19 Vaccines describes it as Health Impact Events. As per CDC assessment, persons with anaphylaxis following COVID-19 vaccination should not receive additional doses of COVID-19 vaccine.
The CDC also recommended consultation with allergy/immunology experts to provide guidance on evaluation of persons following anaphylaxis to COVID-19 vaccine.
NY Times report this?
https://principia-scientific.com/cdc-re ... 9-vaccine/
3150 People Given COVID-19 Vaccine Unable To Perform Normal Daily Activities
According to the CDC, as of December 18, 2020, 3,150 people who were vaccinated against COVID-19 became “unable to perform normal daily activities, are unable to work and required care from doctor or health care professional.”
The V-safe Active Surveillance for COVID-19 Vaccines describes it as Health Impact Events. As per CDC assessment, persons with anaphylaxis following COVID-19 vaccination should not receive additional doses of COVID-19 vaccine.
The CDC also recommended consultation with allergy/immunology experts to provide guidance on evaluation of persons following anaphylaxis to COVID-19 vaccine.
NY Times report this?
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I added the report for you.CU88 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:30 pm Shocker
CDC Report Finds Earlier and More Stringent Implementation of Covid-19 Prevention Methods Key to Saving Lives
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/ ... mm7002e4_w
A report published in the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report analyzed data from 37 European countries to assess which mitigation policies were more effective at preventing loss of life (NYT). According to the report, timing and stringency of the policies strongly affected the mortality rate. Countries that imposed strict measures soon after experiencing outbreaks saw fewer deaths than those with looser guidelines or those who implemented mitigation policies later. According to the report, even small delays in implementing policies like border closures, stay-at-home orders and physical distancing directives resulted in large increases in loss of life. The researchers estimated that if the 26 countries with the most relaxed mitigation policies had followed the lead of countries with more stringent policies, approximately 74,000 deaths could have been prevented.
put down the twitter......
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Interesting.......it IS either this gang of seagulls just squawks around, hitting each thread like its a fresh load of trash......and only time will have the gang return here, as THIS threads visits and activity has come to a screetching halt. (and PLEASE, spare us with the lame excuse of other events. metro, financial, sports, gossip, arts....all typical news departments for most infotainment )
it IS as if no one wants to discuss the vaxx results, symptoms, etc. Not just on this website either.
or, did tRump scare the Pfeizer people into lying about the 95% (ball already moved to 50% effacasy too
stock market didn't care about Jan. 6th, why should we
it IS as if no one wants to discuss the vaxx results, symptoms, etc. Not just on this website either.
or, did tRump scare the Pfeizer people into lying about the 95% (ball already moved to 50% effacasy too
stock market didn't care about Jan. 6th, why should we
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