Trumpista fascists on the march

[njbill]

That might be grounds to hold him in contempt of Congress.

[old salt]

Nadler at it again:

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/ ... 76608?s=20

Can I go pee....NO

The "Karen" is really strong in Nadler...

I'm amazed that Pelosi & Hoyer give Nadler this much leeway. As an exercise in messaging, this is an epic fail for the (D)'s & a windfall for the (R)'s.

The (D)'s are throwing everything they can find up against the wall, in a series of clumsy disjointed diatribes, nitpicking details & trying to conflate them into a gotcha, without giving Barr a chance to reply, leaving confusion in their wake. They're trying to make the same points their MSM lackeys make much more coherently on their behalf. This does not help their cause.

On the other hand, the (R)'s use their time, & give Barr the time, to make their points, in a coherent manner. Points that they can't get the MSM to cover. It was a master stroke by Jordan to sneak that riot highlight video past Nadler. The opener with MSNBC's Badghdad Belshi talking about peaceful protesters while standing in front of a burning building. .. .

Nadler's late for the hearing, excuses himself & leaves the hearing, then won't give Barr a pee break. ..

[MDlaxfan76]

Nadler at it again:

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/ ... 76608?s=20

Can I go pee....NO

The "Karen" is really strong in Nadler...

I'm amazed that Pelosi & Hoyer give Nadler this much leeway. As an exercise in messaging, this is an epic fail for the (D)'s & a windfall for the (R)'s.

The (D)'s are throwing everything they can find up against the wall, in a series of clumsy disjointed diatribes, nitpicking details & trying to conflate them into a gotcha, without giving Barr a chance to reply, leaving confusion in their wake. They're trying to make the same points their MSM lackeys make much more coherently on their behalf. This does not help their cause.

On the other hand, the (R)'s use their time, & give Barr the time, to make their points, in a coherent manner. Points that they can't get the MSM to cover. It was a master stroke by Jordan to sneak that riot highlight video past Nadler. The opener with MSNBC's Badghdad Belshi talking about peaceful protesters while standing in front of a burning building. .. .

Nadler's late for the hearing, excuses himself & leaves the hearing, then won't give Barr a pee break. ..

So funny.
Of course you were ohh so outraged when various GOP Congressmen used 100% of their time to make speeches, but not ask questions of witnesses during the Impeachment process and were ohh so outraged when the GOP Senators refused to compel testimony from key administration figures...

Ahh well par for the course from you and other Trumpists

[old salt]

Nadler at it again:

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/ ... 76608?s=20

Can I go pee....NO

The "Karen" is really strong in Nadler...

I'm amazed that Pelosi & Hoyer give Nadler this much leeway. As an exercise in messaging, this is an epic fail for the (D)'s & a windfall for the (R)'s.

The (D)'s are throwing everything they can find up against the wall, in a series of clumsy disjointed diatribes, nitpicking details & trying to conflate them into a gotcha, without giving Barr a chance to reply, leaving confusion in their wake. They're trying to make the same points their MSM lackeys make much more coherently on their behalf. This does not help their cause.

On the other hand, the (R)'s use their time, & give Barr the time, to make their points, in a coherent manner. Points that they can't get the MSM to cover. It was a master stroke by Jordan to sneak that riot highlight video past Nadler. The opener with MSNBC's Badghdad Belshi talking about peaceful protesters while standing in front of a burning building. .. .

Nadler's late for the hearing, excuses himself & leaves the hearing, then won't give Barr a pee break. ..

So funny.
Of course you were ohh so outraged when various GOP Congressmen used 100% of their time to make speeches, but not ask questions of witnesses during the Impeachment process and were ohh so outraged when the GOP Senators refused to compel testimony from key administration figures...

Ahh well par for the course from you and other Trumpists

Name calling. No substance. Shifting to the BARR thread.

[seacoaster]

Another Republican breaking with Old Relic:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/28/opin ... e=Homepage

"The Trump administration’s deliberate decision to intervene in the Portland protests with a heavy hand, unconventional means and inflammatory political rhetoric has contributed to growing public distrust — particularly of the Department of Homeland Security.

Critics of the department are now rightly worried that its law enforcement agents might be increasingly deployed by President Trump to score political points, or even interfere with the November election.

These actions, now or into the future, endanger our democracy, and undermine the nation’s safety — by hurting the department’s ability to carry out its core mission of protecting Americans from genuine threats to our security.

Homeland Security was created after the Sept. 11 terror attacks with the goal of unifying the government’s efforts to combat emerging security threats. Over the years, these threats have grown to include not only international and domestic terrorism, but also natural disasters, pandemics and cyberattacks.

Given that extensive mandate, the department can’t do it alone; it needs help from state and local governments and the private sector. Through joint intelligence centers, the agency shares threat information with state and local authorities. Similarly, the department’s cybersecurity agency can carry out its mission only by working with businesses that operate critical infrastructure like the electric grid.

This cooperation rests on a critical foundation: public trust. Other government officials, private businesses and citizens will cooperate only if they are confident that the department is focused on legitimate security objectives, with strict fidelity to the Constitution and the rule of law.

For these reasons, the department’s leadership and direction over its first dozen years was studiously bipartisan. Indeed, early concerns that the department was too heavy-handed with aviation and border security measures reinforced leadership’s commitment to impartiality and avoidance of political rhetoric.

Even now, many parts of the department faithfully honor their public obligations. For example, cybersecurity works closely and effectively with state and local election officials and with the private sector, like power companies, that operates our critical infrastructure against foreign adversaries. The Transportation Security Administration also carries out its aviation security responsibilities professionally and effectively.

But now other elements of the department are putting the public trust at risk. While it was appropriate for the department’s personnel to deploy to protect the Portland federal courthouse against threats by some violent actors, the tactics actually employed looked heavy-handed and dismissive of legal constraints. Videos reveal agents operating in camouflage uniforms with no clear identifying insignia. That may be appropriate combating transnational drug gangs in a border environment, but not in American cities. Other videos and reports make clear that even peaceful demonstrators — such as individuals identifying as military veterans — were struck with nonlethal projectiles and strong tear gas. And there was no respect for, or coordination with, the wishes of local authorities.

One might criticize these moves as errors in judgment, but for the fact that White House statements demonstrate the president reveling in the use of brutal and aggressive force, especially in cities that he characterizes as governed by liberal Democratic mayors. And if the politically performative aspect of this policy were not already obvious, it is rendered unmistakable when footage of the mayhem is broadcast by Trump campaign commercials.

Other troubling examples of disdain for the law were also evident this summer. When the Supreme Court invalidated the administration’s moves to repeal DACA, which allows childhood immigrants to apply for legal status, Homeland Security stopped processing applications, essentially defying the ruling. And the department was forced to retreat from its effort to deny New Yorkers participation in trusted-traveler programs when it emerged that officials had falsely claimed that state policy on sharing driver’s license information created security risks.

It is past time for the leadership of Homeland Security to firmly and unequivocally reject efforts to hijack the agency for political purposes. The commitment to the rule of law and to restrained and measured operational behavior must be articulated and carried out. That is especially true as we approach a critical election, to avoid any concern that agents of the department might be deployed to inhibit or frighten certain citizens from going to the polls.

The department’s leadership can look to emulate a recent, inspiring example. This past June, during demonstrations at Lafayette Square, opposite the White House, President Trump had federal police violently clear the park so that he could pose for a photo opportunity while accompanied by Defense Secretary Mark Esper and Gen. Mark A. Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

Afterward, Secretary Esper and General Milley had second thoughts and regretted their presence at the event. Both of these Defense Department leaders made explicit and unequivocal statements affirming for their department that the military’s primary loyalty is to the Constitution of the United States and that it must remain apart from politics.

While the Defense Department has developed its values and culture over decades, the leadership of Homeland Security under Presidents George W. Bush and Barack Obama worked hard to articulate and instill these same core concepts of remaining apolitical and nonpartisan. This president is pushing a culture of political loyalty that is inimical to these values. The department’s leadership should step up and reaffirm the importance of measured, lawful and transparent execution of its appropriate missions."

A vote for Trump is a vote to follow the Old Relic, who says he stood against the Russians, and support the President's campaign efforts that include attacking Americans exercising their First Amendment rights, and bring federal paramilitary forces to a neight\borhood near you. A vote for Trump is un-American.

[MDlaxfan76]

Nadler at it again:

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/ ... 76608?s=20

Can I go pee....NO

The "Karen" is really strong in Nadler...

I'm amazed that Pelosi & Hoyer give Nadler this much leeway. As an exercise in messaging, this is an epic fail for the (D)'s & a windfall for the (R)'s.

The (D)'s are throwing everything they can find up against the wall, in a series of clumsy disjointed diatribes, nitpicking details & trying to conflate them into a gotcha, without giving Barr a chance to reply, leaving confusion in their wake. They're trying to make the same points their MSM lackeys make much more coherently on their behalf. This does not help their cause.

On the other hand, the (R)'s use their time, & give Barr the time, to make their points, in a coherent manner. Points that they can't get the MSM to cover. It was a master stroke by Jordan to sneak that riot highlight video past Nadler. The opener with MSNBC's Badghdad Belshi talking about peaceful protesters while standing in front of a burning building. .. .

Nadler's late for the hearing, excuses himself & leaves the hearing, then won't give Barr a pee break. ..

So funny.
Of course you were ohh so outraged when various GOP Congressmen used 100% of their time to make speeches, but not ask questions of witnesses during the Impeachment process and were ohh so outraged when the GOP Senators refused to compel testimony from key administration figures...

Ahh well par for the course from you and other Trumpists

Name calling. No substance. Shifting to the BARR thread.

"Name calling"??
I assume you mean "and other Trumpists"???

do you imagine that your post added 'substance"???

[cradleandshoot]

Nadler at it again:

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/ ... 76608?s=20

Can I go pee....NO

The "Karen" is really strong in Nadler...

I'm amazed that Pelosi & Hoyer give Nadler this much leeway. As an exercise in messaging, this is an epic fail for the (D)'s & a windfall for the (R)'s.

The (D)'s are throwing everything they can find up against the wall, in a series of clumsy disjointed diatribes, nitpicking details & trying to conflate them into a gotcha, without giving Barr a chance to reply, leaving confusion in their wake. They're trying to make the same points their MSM lackeys make much more coherently on their behalf. This does not help their cause.

On the other hand, the (R)'s use their time, & give Barr the time, to make their points, in a coherent manner. Points that they can't get the MSM to cover. It was a master stroke by Jordan to sneak that riot highlight video past Nadler. The opener with MSNBC's Badghdad Belshi talking about peaceful protesters while standing in front of a burning building. .. .

Nadler's late for the hearing, excuses himself & leaves the hearing, then won't give Barr a pee break. ..

So funny.
Of course you were ohh so outraged when various GOP Congressmen used 100% of their time to make speeches, but not ask questions of witnesses during the Impeachment process and were ohh so outraged when the GOP Senators refused to compel testimony from key administration figures...

Ahh well par for the course from you and other Trumpists

Hold the door, ain't those GOP congressmen your people? For a lifelong moderate republican you sure do shovel a lot of excrement on your own people. I also wonder why you never shovel any excrement on the democrats? You remember them? They are the other party you republicans are trying to overcome. As far as the republican party goes MD... with friends like you, they don't need any enemys.

[Peter Brown]

Nadler at it again:

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/ ... 76608?s=20

Can I go pee....NO

The "Karen" is really strong in Nadler...

I'm amazed that Pelosi & Hoyer give Nadler this much leeway. As an exercise in messaging, this is an epic fail for the (D)'s & a windfall for the (R)'s.

The (D)'s are throwing everything they can find up against the wall, in a series of clumsy disjointed diatribes, nitpicking details & trying to conflate them into a gotcha, without giving Barr a chance to reply, leaving confusion in their wake. They're trying to make the same points their MSM lackeys make much more coherently on their behalf. This does not help their cause.

On the other hand, the (R)'s use their time, & give Barr the time, to make their points, in a coherent manner. Points that they can't get the MSM to cover. It was a master stroke by Jordan to sneak that riot highlight video past Nadler. The opener with MSNBC's Badghdad Belshi talking about peaceful protesters while standing in front of a burning building. .. .

Nadler's late for the hearing, excuses himself & leaves the hearing, then won't give Barr a pee break. ..

So funny.
Of course you were ohh so outraged when various GOP Congressmen used 100% of their time to make speeches, but not ask questions of witnesses during the Impeachment process and were ohh so outraged when the GOP Senators refused to compel testimony from key administration figures...

Ahh well par for the course from you and other Trumpists

Hold the door, ain't those GOP congressmen your people? For a lifelong moderate republican you sure do shovel a lot of excrement on your own people. I also wonder why you never shovel any excrement on the democrats? You remember them? They are the other party you republicans are trying to overcome. As far as the republican party goes MD... with friends like you, they don't need any enemys.

Exactly.

If Trump has had one benefit in American life, it might have been to expose people for who they really are.

Further above, MD calls OS a 'Trumpist'. I have no doubt that MD has never even met an actual Trumpist; I live among them. They are not fans of Trump the man per se, but they see in him an idea of society which doesn't look down upon them; the more the self-important elite call them 'racist' or whatever the pejorative slur of the day is (I have lost count), the more they despise those self-important elites and the more they rally to 'Trump' the idea.

I am sure every sane human being on these boards agrees that there are no actual 'Trumpists' here. MD considers anyone who isn't similarly afflicted with TDS a 'Trumpist'. Does that say more about MD or more about the person he wildly accuses of being a Trumpist? So far as the Lincoln or Bulwark crowd goes, a crowd I believe MD aligns with, these people are mocked for their similarities to Trump: rudderless, lacking in principle, opportunistic. Today they are Democrats, tomorrow they might be Republicans; they might even be Socialists. They don't stand for any coherent set of principles; they exist as barnacles on the body politic, which we scrape off from time to time so we can sail without hindrance.

[Kismet]

https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2020/0 ... icers.html

Oregon’s governor announces phased withdrawal of federal officers from Portland

"Federal officers will start pulling out of Portland on Thursday in a phased approach and state troopers will move in instead to back up officers from the Federal Protective Service to safeguard the Mark O. Hatfield Courthouse, Oregon’s Gov. Kate Brown announced.

Brown called the federal officers “an occupying force” that has “refused accountability and brought strife to our community,” in a statement Wednesday.

Acting Homeland Security Secretary Chad F. Wolf, in a separate announcement, said he had been in talks with the governor in the last day and agreed to a “joint plan to end the violent activity in Portland directed at federal properties and law enforcement.

Starting Thursday, all Customs and Border Protection and Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers will leave downtown Portland.

“After discussions with the Vice President and administration officials this week, the federal government has agreed to my demand and will withdraw these officers from Portland. They will also clean up the Courthouse, removing the graffiti,” Brown said in a statement.

While state police and Federal Protective Service will be responsible for the exterior of the courthouse, a limited number of federal officials, who act as building security year-round, will remain focused on the interior of the building.

“I have grown increasingly concerned at the nightly confrontation between local community members and federal officers. We need to recognize that the protests in Portland are not solely about the federal presence,” the governor said. “They started before federal agents descended on our city and they will likely continue after they leave.”

This statement occurred literally MINUTES after DOPUS told reporters that federal agents would remain in Portland, Oregon until "they've secured their city." - Does anyone in this administration talk to one another or the boss?

[njbill]

Does anyone in this administration talk to one another or the boss?

They all talk behind his back.

[CU88]

Christ, now American ICE NAZI's are snowflakes. Boo Hoo. Brownshirts.

https://www.newsweek.com/ice-agents-com ... ws-1521382

In the new series, previewed ahead of its release by Newsweek, ICE agents speak candidly about their orders to ramp up arrests of undocumented immigrants, with one scene showing an agency supervisor in New York ordering an agent to bring in more "collaterals"—undocumented immigrants identified during a targeted arrest—whatever it takes.

"Start taking collaterals man," an ICE supervisor can be heard saying. "I don't care what you do, but bring at least two people in."

Throughout the series, agents can be seen discussing the need to ramp up arrest numbers, while some appear to also boast about how many people have been arrested in a single day.

That's where the collaterals are kind of like, you know, kind of the victim," Efran said. "It's an unfortunate situation because a lot of these guys are hardworking individuals. They're here to work and provide for their family. They just get caught up in politics if you look at it. It's how it is."

[MDlaxfan76]

Nadler at it again:

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/ ... 76608?s=20

Can I go pee....NO

The "Karen" is really strong in Nadler...

I'm amazed that Pelosi & Hoyer give Nadler this much leeway. As an exercise in messaging, this is an epic fail for the (D)'s & a windfall for the (R)'s.

The (D)'s are throwing everything they can find up against the wall, in a series of clumsy disjointed diatribes, nitpicking details & trying to conflate them into a gotcha, without giving Barr a chance to reply, leaving confusion in their wake. They're trying to make the same points their MSM lackeys make much more coherently on their behalf. This does not help their cause.

On the other hand, the (R)'s use their time, & give Barr the time, to make their points, in a coherent manner. Points that they can't get the MSM to cover. It was a master stroke by Jordan to sneak that riot highlight video past Nadler. The opener with MSNBC's Badghdad Belshi talking about peaceful protesters while standing in front of a burning building. .. .

Nadler's late for the hearing, excuses himself & leaves the hearing, then won't give Barr a pee break. ..

So funny.
Of course you were ohh so outraged when various GOP Congressmen used 100% of their time to make speeches, but not ask questions of witnesses during the Impeachment process and were ohh so outraged when the GOP Senators refused to compel testimony from key administration figures...

Ahh well par for the course from you and other Trumpists

Hold the door, ain't those GOP congressmen your people? For a lifelong moderate republican you sure do shovel a lot of excrement on your own people. I also wonder why you never shovel any excrement on the democrats? You remember them? They are the other party you republicans are trying to overcome. As far as the republican party goes MD... with friends like you, they don't need any enemys.

Exactly.

If Trump has had one benefit in American life, it might have been to expose people for who they really are.

Further above, MD calls OS a 'Trumpist'. I have no doubt that MD has never even met an actual Trumpist; I live among them. They are not fans of Trump the man per se, but they see in him an idea of society which doesn't look down upon them; the more the self-important elite call them 'racist' or whatever the pejorative slur of the day is (I have lost count), the more they despise those self-important elites and the more they rally to 'Trump' the idea.

I am sure every sane human being on these boards agrees that there are no actual 'Trumpists' here. MD considers anyone who isn't similarly afflicted with TDS a 'Trumpist'. Does that say more about MD or more about the person he wildly accuses of being a Trumpist? So far as the Lincoln or Bulwark crowd goes, a crowd I believe MD aligns with, these people are mocked for their similarities to Trump: rudderless, lacking in principle, opportunistic. Today they are Democrats, tomorrow they might be Republicans; they might even be Socialists. They don't stand for any coherent set of principles; they exist as barnacles on the body politic, which we scrape off from time to time so we can sail without hindrance.

I have a Trumpist in my basement.

You, Petey, demonstrate dozens of times a day that you are a Trumpist. Clear as a bell.

Apparently you think one has to be a slavish, gonzo 'fan' of Trump in order to be a "Trumpist"...nope, while certainly those do exist, one needs only to be committed to supporting him in order to battle those one hates or detests or fears, whether based on race or religious belief or economic self-interest and be willing to overlook or excuse all flaws in that partisan course. Nothing will sway a Trumpist, their fear or hate is too strong.

Salty tries really, really hard to not appear to be a full-on Trumpist, but he just can't help himself in his constant apologia for Trump and his corrupt crew. I do hold out some hope for him, but suspect he will continue to disappoint. He's getting what he wants on Russia.

But not you, Petey, not you. No hope left.

[MDlaxfan76]

Christ, now American ICE NAZI's are snowflakes. Boo Hoo. Brownshirts.

https://www.newsweek.com/ice-agents-com ... ws-1521382

In the new series, previewed ahead of its release by Newsweek, ICE agents speak candidly about their orders to ramp up arrests of undocumented immigrants, with one scene showing an agency supervisor in New York ordering an agent to bring in more "collaterals"—undocumented immigrants identified during a targeted arrest—whatever it takes.

"Start taking collaterals man," an ICE supervisor can be heard saying. "I don't care what you do, but bring at least two people in."

Throughout the series, agents can be seen discussing the need to ramp up arrest numbers, while some appear to also boast about how many people have been arrested in a single day.

That's where the collaterals are kind of like, you know, kind of the victim," Efran said. "It's an unfortunate situation because a lot of these guys are hardworking individuals. They're here to work and provide for their family. They just get caught up in politics if you look at it. It's how it is."

Sounds like an interesting series. Film makers likely have it about right, 'good cops' and 'bad cops' in a broken system now rewarding the 'bad cops' for partisan reasons.

And that's exactly where the Nazi reference comes in, whether they like it or not: "I was just following orders"...

[Peter Brown]

Nadler at it again:

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/ ... 76608?s=20

Can I go pee....NO

The "Karen" is really strong in Nadler...

I'm amazed that Pelosi & Hoyer give Nadler this much leeway. As an exercise in messaging, this is an epic fail for the (D)'s & a windfall for the (R)'s.

The (D)'s are throwing everything they can find up against the wall, in a series of clumsy disjointed diatribes, nitpicking details & trying to conflate them into a gotcha, without giving Barr a chance to reply, leaving confusion in their wake. They're trying to make the same points their MSM lackeys make much more coherently on their behalf. This does not help their cause.

On the other hand, the (R)'s use their time, & give Barr the time, to make their points, in a coherent manner. Points that they can't get the MSM to cover. It was a master stroke by Jordan to sneak that riot highlight video past Nadler. The opener with MSNBC's Badghdad Belshi talking about peaceful protesters while standing in front of a burning building. .. .

Nadler's late for the hearing, excuses himself & leaves the hearing, then won't give Barr a pee break. ..

So funny.
Of course you were ohh so outraged when various GOP Congressmen used 100% of their time to make speeches, but not ask questions of witnesses during the Impeachment process and were ohh so outraged when the GOP Senators refused to compel testimony from key administration figures...

Ahh well par for the course from you and other Trumpists

Hold the door, ain't those GOP congressmen your people? For a lifelong moderate republican you sure do shovel a lot of excrement on your own people. I also wonder why you never shovel any excrement on the democrats? You remember them? They are the other party you republicans are trying to overcome. As far as the republican party goes MD... with friends like you, they don't need any enemys.

Exactly.

If Trump has had one benefit in American life, it might have been to expose people for who they really are.

Further above, MD calls OS a 'Trumpist'. I have no doubt that MD has never even met an actual Trumpist; I live among them. They are not fans of Trump the man per se, but they see in him an idea of society which doesn't look down upon them; the more the self-important elite call them 'racist' or whatever the pejorative slur of the day is (I have lost count), the more they despise those self-important elites and the more they rally to 'Trump' the idea.

I am sure every sane human being on these boards agrees that there are no actual 'Trumpists' here. MD considers anyone who isn't similarly afflicted with TDS a 'Trumpist'. Does that say more about MD or more about the person he wildly accuses of being a Trumpist? So far as the Lincoln or Bulwark crowd goes, a crowd I believe MD aligns with, these people are mocked for their similarities to Trump: rudderless, lacking in principle, opportunistic. Today they are Democrats, tomorrow they might be Republicans; they might even be Socialists. They don't stand for any coherent set of principles; they exist as barnacles on the body politic, which we scrape off from time to time so we can sail without hindrance.

I have a Trumpist in my basement.

You, Petey, demonstrate dozens of times a day that you are a Trumpist. Clear as a bell.

Apparently you think one has to be a slavish, gonzo 'fan' of Trump in order to be a "Trumpist"...nope, while certainly those do exist, one needs only to be committed to supporting him in order to battle those one hates or detests or fears, whether based on race or religious belief or economic self-interest and be willing to overlook or excuse all flaws in that partisan course. Nothing will sway a Trumpist, their fear or hate is too strong.

Salty tries really, really hard to not appear to be a full-on Trumpist, but he just can't help himself in his constant apologia for Trump and his corrupt crew. I do hold out some hope for him, but suspect he will continue to disappoint. He's getting what he wants on Russia.

But not you, Petey, not you. No hope left.

I'm that rare 'Trumpist' (MD's definition, natch) who thinks Joe Biden is a decent person.

[MDlaxfan76]

Nadler at it again:

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/ ... 76608?s=20

Can I go pee....NO

The "Karen" is really strong in Nadler...

I'm amazed that Pelosi & Hoyer give Nadler this much leeway. As an exercise in messaging, this is an epic fail for the (D)'s & a windfall for the (R)'s.

The (D)'s are throwing everything they can find up against the wall, in a series of clumsy disjointed diatribes, nitpicking details & trying to conflate them into a gotcha, without giving Barr a chance to reply, leaving confusion in their wake. They're trying to make the same points their MSM lackeys make much more coherently on their behalf. This does not help their cause.

On the other hand, the (R)'s use their time, & give Barr the time, to make their points, in a coherent manner. Points that they can't get the MSM to cover. It was a master stroke by Jordan to sneak that riot highlight video past Nadler. The opener with MSNBC's Badghdad Belshi talking about peaceful protesters while standing in front of a burning building. .. .

Nadler's late for the hearing, excuses himself & leaves the hearing, then won't give Barr a pee break. ..

So funny.
Of course you were ohh so outraged when various GOP Congressmen used 100% of their time to make speeches, but not ask questions of witnesses during the Impeachment process and were ohh so outraged when the GOP Senators refused to compel testimony from key administration figures...

Ahh well par for the course from you and other Trumpists

Hold the door, ain't those GOP congressmen your people? For a lifelong moderate republican you sure do shovel a lot of excrement on your own people. I also wonder why you never shovel any excrement on the democrats? You remember them? They are the other party you republicans are trying to overcome. As far as the republican party goes MD... with friends like you, they don't need any enemys.

Exactly.

If Trump has had one benefit in American life, it might have been to expose people for who they really are.

Further above, MD calls OS a 'Trumpist'. I have no doubt that MD has never even met an actual Trumpist; I live among them. They are not fans of Trump the man per se, but they see in him an idea of society which doesn't look down upon them; the more the self-important elite call them 'racist' or whatever the pejorative slur of the day is (I have lost count), the more they despise those self-important elites and the more they rally to 'Trump' the idea.

I am sure every sane human being on these boards agrees that there are no actual 'Trumpists' here. MD considers anyone who isn't similarly afflicted with TDS a 'Trumpist'. Does that say more about MD or more about the person he wildly accuses of being a Trumpist? So far as the Lincoln or Bulwark crowd goes, a crowd I believe MD aligns with, these people are mocked for their similarities to Trump: rudderless, lacking in principle, opportunistic. Today they are Democrats, tomorrow they might be Republicans; they might even be Socialists. They don't stand for any coherent set of principles; they exist as barnacles on the body politic, which we scrape off from time to time so we can sail without hindrance.

I have a Trumpist in my basement.

You, Petey, demonstrate dozens of times a day that you are a Trumpist. Clear as a bell.

Apparently you think one has to be a slavish, gonzo 'fan' of Trump in order to be a "Trumpist"...nope, while certainly those do exist, one needs only to be committed to supporting him in order to battle those one hates or detests or fears, whether based on race or religious belief or economic self-interest and be willing to overlook or excuse all flaws in that partisan course. Nothing will sway a Trumpist, their fear or hate is too strong.

Salty tries really, really hard to not appear to be a full-on Trumpist, but he just can't help himself in his constant apologia for Trump and his corrupt crew. I do hold out some hope for him, but suspect he will continue to disappoint. He's getting what he wants on Russia.

But not you, Petey, not you. No hope left.

I'm that rare 'Trumpist' (MD's definition, natch) who thinks Joe Biden is a decent person.

Then vote for him not Trump.
So very easy to say that Biden is a decent person, damning with faint praise the "honorable man" Brutus.

[Peter Brown]

Nadler at it again:

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/ ... 76608?s=20

Can I go pee....NO

The "Karen" is really strong in Nadler...

I'm amazed that Pelosi & Hoyer give Nadler this much leeway. As an exercise in messaging, this is an epic fail for the (D)'s & a windfall for the (R)'s.

The (D)'s are throwing everything they can find up against the wall, in a series of clumsy disjointed diatribes, nitpicking details & trying to conflate them into a gotcha, without giving Barr a chance to reply, leaving confusion in their wake. They're trying to make the same points their MSM lackeys make much more coherently on their behalf. This does not help their cause.

On the other hand, the (R)'s use their time, & give Barr the time, to make their points, in a coherent manner. Points that they can't get the MSM to cover. It was a master stroke by Jordan to sneak that riot highlight video past Nadler. The opener with MSNBC's Badghdad Belshi talking about peaceful protesters while standing in front of a burning building. .. .

Nadler's late for the hearing, excuses himself & leaves the hearing, then won't give Barr a pee break. ..

So funny.
Of course you were ohh so outraged when various GOP Congressmen used 100% of their time to make speeches, but not ask questions of witnesses during the Impeachment process and were ohh so outraged when the GOP Senators refused to compel testimony from key administration figures...

Ahh well par for the course from you and other Trumpists

Hold the door, ain't those GOP congressmen your people? For a lifelong moderate republican you sure do shovel a lot of excrement on your own people. I also wonder why you never shovel any excrement on the democrats? You remember them? They are the other party you republicans are trying to overcome. As far as the republican party goes MD... with friends like you, they don't need any enemys.

Exactly.

If Trump has had one benefit in American life, it might have been to expose people for who they really are.

Further above, MD calls OS a 'Trumpist'. I have no doubt that MD has never even met an actual Trumpist; I live among them. They are not fans of Trump the man per se, but they see in him an idea of society which doesn't look down upon them; the more the self-important elite call them 'racist' or whatever the pejorative slur of the day is (I have lost count), the more they despise those self-important elites and the more they rally to 'Trump' the idea.

I am sure every sane human being on these boards agrees that there are no actual 'Trumpists' here. MD considers anyone who isn't similarly afflicted with TDS a 'Trumpist'. Does that say more about MD or more about the person he wildly accuses of being a Trumpist? So far as the Lincoln or Bulwark crowd goes, a crowd I believe MD aligns with, these people are mocked for their similarities to Trump: rudderless, lacking in principle, opportunistic. Today they are Democrats, tomorrow they might be Republicans; they might even be Socialists. They don't stand for any coherent set of principles; they exist as barnacles on the body politic, which we scrape off from time to time so we can sail without hindrance.

I have a Trumpist in my basement.

You, Petey, demonstrate dozens of times a day that you are a Trumpist. Clear as a bell.

Apparently you think one has to be a slavish, gonzo 'fan' of Trump in order to be a "Trumpist"...nope, while certainly those do exist, one needs only to be committed to supporting him in order to battle those one hates or detests or fears, whether based on race or religious belief or economic self-interest and be willing to overlook or excuse all flaws in that partisan course. Nothing will sway a Trumpist, their fear or hate is too strong.

Salty tries really, really hard to not appear to be a full-on Trumpist, but he just can't help himself in his constant apologia for Trump and his corrupt crew. I do hold out some hope for him, but suspect he will continue to disappoint. He's getting what he wants on Russia.

But not you, Petey, not you. No hope left.

I'm that rare 'Trumpist' (MD's definition, natch) who thinks Joe Biden is a decent person.

Then vote for him not Trump.
So very easy to say that Biden is a decent person, damning with faint praise the "honorable man" Brutus.

I think AOC is a decent person, but I'm not likely to vote for her (if I even lived in her district).

If being decent made you a good POTUS, George HW Bush would be on Mt. Rushmore.

[MDlaxfan76]

Exactly, the hate is strong in you.
Evidence every day.

[CU77]

President Trump on Thursday suggested delaying the November election as he continued to raise the false specter of widespread voting fraud.

“With Universal Mail-In Voting (not Absentee Voting, which is good), 2020 will be the most INACCURATE & FRAUDULENT Election in history. It will be a great embarrassment to the USA. Delay the Election until people can properly, securely and safely vote???” he tweeted.

https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/ ... r-election

[CU77]

Today, all 50 states grant their residents the right to vote for president, and the people’s vote determines which electors from each state will select the next president. However, any state could change its law and instead allow its legislature to decide which electors will choose the next president.

In other words, states have a lot of power in deciding how the election will run. Today, Republicans control 30 state legislatures and Democrats only 19, with one state divided. (Nebraska technically has nonpartisan legislators, but it is a reliably red state, so I include it with the Republican states.) These red-state legislatures control 305 electoral votes, and only 270 are needed to secure the presidency. Presumably, most red states, if not all, would appoint electors who would elect Trump for another four years. Of those 30 states, 22 also have Republican governors, which means in those states there would be no Democratic governor to veto Republican legislation taking away the people’s opportunity to vote for president. Those 22 states represent 219 electoral-college votes—perilously close to the 270 required for Trump to be reelected.

Could states really deprive Americans of the right to vote for their president? In Bush v. Gore, a conservative majority on the Supreme Court held that the state “can take back the power to appoint electors” at any time. And the Court is even more conservative today than it was in 2000, as Justice Brett Kavanaugh has replaced Justice Anthony Kennedy.

The more complicated question is not whether states can do this, but whether they would. Republican lawmakers have been steadfastly loyal to Trump throughout his tumultuous tenure. If Trump were to ask states to appoint electors instead of having an election, they certainly might follow his request, especially those states where the president enjoys wide popularity.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archi ... on/608989/

[CU77]

Trump Might Try to Postpone the Election. That’s Unconstitutional.

He should be removed unless he relents.

By Steven G. Calabresi
Mr. Calabresi is a co-founder of the Federalist Society and a professor at Northwestern University’s Pritzker School of Law.

July 30, 2020, 4:03 p.m. ET

I have voted Republican in every presidential election since 1980, including voting for Donald Trump in 2016. I wrote op-eds and a law review article protesting what I believe was an unconstitutional investigation by Robert Mueller. I also wrote an op-ed opposing President Trump’s impeachment.

But I am frankly appalled by the president’s recent tweet seeking to postpone the November election. Until recently, I had taken as political hyperbole the Democrats’ assertion that President Trump is a fascist. But this latest tweet is fascistic and is itself grounds for the president’s immediate impeachment again by the House of Representatives and his removal from office by the Senate.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/30/opin ... virus.html