Race in America - Riots Explode in Chicago

[a fan]

So yet another poster waking up to the golden opportunity staring American conservatives in the face. Is McConnell smart enough to step in, and provide funding to make this happen?

Here's a perfect example of what I'm getting at:

Chicago blows on police per year about $1.5 Billion per year.

Wanna guess how much they blow per year to pay retired police to NOT WORK? A half a billion dollars. Per year. To NOT serve and protect.

In what world does that make even a little sense?

Put me in charge. Every police officer would get massive, well-earned raises while they work. Massive.

But when they retire? That's it, not one more cent from the city. The police get paid fantastically well while they work....and the taxpayers aren't on the hook for trying to figure out what health care is going to cost for a retired policeman in 2050.

[old salt]

The only need for police unions is to keep feckless politicians from offering up cops to angry lynch mobs.

[runrussellrun]

Obama/Biden had 8 years to change the policy. They did nothing. Well, Barack did squirrel away enough favors to live happily evah after, so theres that. Hope climate change doesn't submerge his Turkey Road home on the Vineyard. He taking a plane to Martha's, or driving in a Prius

Are you kidding? Obama tried to engage in a harmless "beer summit" and the right wing delusionals attacked him as if he was out to start Armageddon. How was he to proceed in the manner you say if anything and everything he did was wrong, subversive, and diabolical according to his delusional right wing critics?

NO, they criticized him b/c he uttered something tRump like.

"The police attacked stupidly"

No shiite Barack. No leadership ability to change policies, so the police do NOT act stupidly.

get it now.

[runrussellrun]

Anish Shroff on Bigotry in Lacrosse
I’m not quite sure how this conversation begins. So I’m just going to let the words come and write unplugged. I’m angered that... http://fanlax.com/fanlax/2020/06/08/ani ... -lacrosse/

Well, I'm white and I happen to think Anish is the best television announcer for lacrosse (in spite of his being a 'Cuse homer), the best twitter account to follow, and obviously an all around great human being; if lacrosse was made up of by 100% Anish Shroff's, it would be a fantastic sport.

Am I allowed to disagree with his central premise in the article? Cause I do.

you are not white. You are transparent. Or, rather, you are the universal color of the rectum......and what the rectums "knickname" is.

It rymes with arsehole.

Your ability to add tremendous depth to the convo, often with remarkably incoherent posts, is unmatched. So, thanks I guess!

It must be after 5 o'clock pm where Russell is. Or he's adopted the old saying, "Can't drink all day if you don't start in the morning".

Are you so vapid, that you go personal attack?

You got it all wrong. it's edibles all day long. Drinking is unhealthy. You atta know

[runrussellrun]

I'm so thrilled to learn that the irritating ingredient in pepper balls/spray is NOT A CHEMICAL. If not a CHEMICAL What the heck is it?
Lastly,, if they are all on the up and up on all this - then why not go to Capitol Hill and answer some questions about it

Pepper spray/balls are made of (are you ready for this ?) ...PEPPER

Yep - and the main ingredient is Capsaicin which is a chemical compound that was first isolated from chili peppers in crystalline form in 1878.

So Mr. Barr's statement was incorrect at best and a LIE at worst.

The active ingredient in pepper spray is capsaicin, which is a chemical derived from the fruit of plants in the genus Capsicum, including chilis.
Extraction of oleoresin capsicum (OC) from peppers requires capsicum to be finely ground, from which capsaicin is then extracted using an organic solvent such as ethanol. The solvent is then evaporated, and the remaining waxlike resin is the oleoresin capsaicin.

It is all in the definition of chemical the two of you are using, and OS's version is much stricter including (from the context) only man-made chemicals.

But that is not a standard definition - capsaicin is a naturally occurring organic compound, more commonly the definition as a noun is:

a compound or substance that has been purified or prepared, especially artificially.

The process of preparing capsaicin if obtained from a pepper certainly meets the definition as an artificially prepared purification, so yes this most commonly would be considered a chemical. And since peppers are quite common, you would not bother to synthesize it in most circumstances.

OS is being disingenuous in his usage.

Blah, blah, blah. You are changing the definition of tear gas to suit the situation.

CS is a synthetic chemical compound -- C10H5ClN2. That's tear gas.
OC = pepper spray/balls. They're extracted from naturally growing plants = peppers.
Law enforcement distinguishes between pepper spray/balls & tear gas (much more severe) in describing what they use.
You, & the MSM, are disingenuously distorting the terminology to make things seem worse than they are.
USPP, USSS & Barr have said only pepper/spray balls (OC) were used on Mon, May 31, not tear gas (CS)
Even WUSA was honest in making the distinction when reporting on the canisters they found.

OLD salt, what gives?

You are really SO bored, you are arguing about harmful, but mostly not lethal, crowd control gases.

What difference does it make?

[Brooklyn]

re = Obama

NO, they criticized him b/c he uttered something tRump like.

"The police attacked stupidly"

No shiite Barack. No leadership ability to change policies, so the police do NOT act stupidly.

get it now.

Police do not act stupidly?

Why, of course not. For example, when they deliberately slashed tires, it wasn't the cops. It was that those tires just git in the way of their knives:


https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/slash ... -protests/

Claim:
Law enforcement officers in Minnesota slashed the tires of cars parked near demonstrations against police brutality in May 2020.


Rating:
TRUE






Let's hear the howls of protest about these acts of police terrorism from forum right wingers.

[get it to x]

Anish Shroff on Bigotry in Lacrosse
I’m not quite sure how this conversation begins. So I’m just going to let the words come and write unplugged. I’m angered that... http://fanlax.com/fanlax/2020/06/08/ani ... -lacrosse/

Well, I'm white and I happen to think Anish is the best television announcer for lacrosse (in spite of his being a 'Cuse homer), the best twitter account to follow, and obviously an all around great human being; if lacrosse was made up of by 100% Anish Shroff's, it would be a fantastic sport.

Am I allowed to disagree with his central premise in the article? Cause I do.

you are not white. You are transparent. Or, rather, you are the universal color of the rectum......and what the rectums "knickname" is.

It rymes with arsehole.

Your ability to add tremendous depth to the convo, often with remarkably incoherent posts, is unmatched. So, thanks I guess!

It must be after 5 o'clock pm where Russell is. Or he's adopted the old saying, "Can't drink all day if you don't start in the morning".

Are you so vapid, that you go personal attack?

You got it all wrong. it's edibles all day long. Drinking is unhealthy. You atta know

Enjoy. I only drink on Fridays. Two or three Manhattans. Edibles all day long is also unhealthy. Everything in moderation (including moderation).

[Peter Brown]

Where the ‘peaceful’ protesters at today?

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Sorry to leave out Seattle where police are abandoning precinct houses. Also a Democrat mayor.

[Brooklyn]

Where the ‘peaceful’ protesters at today?


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Sorry to leave out Seattle where police are abandoning precinct houses. Also a Democrat mayor.

And one Republican president whose jack booted thug allies do this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wk-mRv1Nlo

[youthathletics]

Starting salary for Columbus Ohio Police Officer: 58k
Requirements:
- high school GED
- possess a valid drivers license
- 6 month training

Starting salary for community crisis social worker in Columbus: 34k
Requirements:
- bachelors of social work
- licensure of social work( which can be lost if in any violation of code of ethics)
- continuing education units (inability will result of lost of license)
- insurance of license
- de-escalation training
- 3 years of experience

Uh, oh, fellow conservatives. Yet another poster who can add and subtract. How many cities in the US blow 25%-40% on their entire budget on policing?

If some of you could take a step back, breathe, and think for a minute-------the idea of dismantling a poorly run union police dept. (not all are bad, of course) starts to make a ton of sense. You don't need to call two armed police officers when a neighbor's dog won't stop barking.

Anyone here know the cost per year of the average police officer. Not salary----the full cost to taxpayers...how much they have to blow?

$135,000. And that's the freaking average, not the high end. And that doesn't count administration and management.

And posters REALLY don't want to take a second look at how we spend that money when we get outcomes as horrific as the one in Minneapolis?

For reals?

So you arguing for a dismantling of our military as well, no? Same principle.

[Peter Brown]

Starting salary for Columbus Ohio Police Officer: 58k
Requirements:
- high school GED
- possess a valid drivers license
- 6 month training

Starting salary for community crisis social worker in Columbus: 34k
Requirements:
- bachelors of social work
- licensure of social work( which can be lost if in any violation of code of ethics)
- continuing education units (inability will result of lost of license)
- insurance of license
- de-escalation training
- 3 years of experience

Uh, oh, fellow conservatives. Yet another poster who can add and subtract. How many cities in the US blow 25%-40% on their entire budget on policing?

If some of you could take a step back, breathe, and think for a minute-------the idea of dismantling a poorly run union police dept. (not all are bad, of course) starts to make a ton of sense. You don't need to call two armed police officers when a neighbor's dog won't stop barking.

Anyone here know the cost per year of the average police officer. Not salary----the full cost to taxpayers...how much they have to blow?

$135,000. And that's the freaking average, not the high end. And that doesn't count administration and management.

And posters REALLY don't want to take a second look at how we spend that money when we get outcomes as horrific as the one in Minneapolis?

For reals?

So you arguing for a dismantling of our military as well, no? Same principle.

Only 'smart' dismantling...that's the dismantling where his neighborhood stays safe but yours descends into anarchy and chaos. Good for thee but not for me! (Trump is the only Republican who can not take advantage of this layup scenario)

Speaking of, does anyone here live in the East Precinct of Seattle? If so, might I gently warn you to get your valuables out now before the neighborhood craters...

https://mynorthwest.com/1929763/spd-east-precinct/

[youthathletics]

Does this mean Trump gets credit for progressive change in America...the kind BHO only hoped he could accomplish?

[CU88]

19 f'ing 68!

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/race-and-a ... d=90364378


The system is broken. Here we are 52yrs later saying the same things...

[Peter Brown]

Does this mean Trump gets credit for progressive change in America...the kind BHO only hoped he could accomplish?

The libs here and elsewhere are absolutely aware that the nonsense of 'defund police etc...' has gone way, way too far, but they haven't figured out how to admit it yet. And they're getting a little scared about it. Enjoy the schadenfreude.

[Peter Brown]

19 f'ing 68!

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/race-and-a ... d=90364378


The system is broken. Here we are 52yrs later saying the same things...

Indeed the media has kept up the drumbeat of despair for a long time.

Collectivists have needed fear and hysteria porn since time beginning; it motivates the perpetually dumb. Meanwhile, stats don't lie:

[youthathletics]

19 f'ing 68!

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/race-and-a ... d=90364378


The system is broken. Here we are 52yrs later saying the same things...

Is the system broken, or will it not be left alone to die? It is in each of our faces daily, regardless of color. We allow a minority of idiots to perpetuate the stoking of coals. Would be nice if the protesters started demanding news media, that did not focus on the positive..instead, the keep filling our water bottle with cocaine.

We have come a very long way.....and should never stop. For every negative story out there, there is a positive one..and yet the world seldom knows about it.

The only that will change this is, is knocking down that wall around your heart...and that is a very scary place for so many.

[CU88]

1968 Isn’t The Only Parallel For This Political Moment

Black Americans have a long history of fighting for racial justice — and the system has a long history of failing them.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/19 ... al-moment/

[CU88]

19 f'ing 68!

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/race-and-a ... d=90364378


The system is broken. Here we are 52yrs later saying the same things...

Is the system broken, or will it not be left alone to die? It is in each of our faces daily, regardless of color. We allow a minority of idiots to perpetuate the stoking of coals. Would be nice if the protesters started demanding news media, that did not focus on the positive..instead, the keep filling our water bottle with cocaine.

We have come a very long way.....and should never stop. For every negative story out there, there is a positive one..and yet the world seldom knows about it.

The only that will change this is, is knocking down that wall around your heart...and that is a very scary place for so many.

It's 2020, and the Ku Klux Klan is still not considered a terrorist organization, explain that.

[old salt]

19 f'ing 68!

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/race-and-a ... d=90364378


The system is broken. Here we are 52yrs later saying the same things...

Is the system broken, or will it not be left alone to die? It is in each of our faces daily, regardless of color. We allow a minority of idiots to perpetuate the stoking of coals. Would be nice if the protesters started demanding news media, that did not focus on the positive..instead, the keep filling our water bottle with cocaine.

We have come a very long way.....and should never stop. For every negative story out there, there is a positive one..and yet the world seldom knows about it.

The only that will change this is, is knocking down that wall around your heart...and that is a very scary place for so many.

It's 2020, and the Ku Klux Klan is still not considered a terrorist organization, explain that.

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/06/trump ... anization/

...there is no such official federal designation for domestic terrorism organizations.

[tech37]

19 f'ing 68!

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/race-and-a ... d=90364378


The system is broken. Here we are 52yrs later saying the same things...

Is the system broken, or will it not be left alone to die? It is in each of our faces daily, regardless of color. We allow a minority of idiots to perpetuate the stoking of coals. Would be nice if the protesters started demanding news media, that did not focus on the positive..instead, the keep filling our water bottle with cocaine.

We have come a very long way.....and should never stop. For every negative story out there, there is a positive one..and yet the world seldom knows about it.

The only that will change this is, is knocking down that wall around your heart...and that is a very scary place for so many.

It's 2020, and the Ku Klux Klan is still not considered a terrorist organization, explain that.

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/06/trump ... anization/

...there is no such official federal designation for domestic terrorism organizations.

That should change. Both Antifa and the Klan should be designated "terrorist."