All things CoronaVirus

[DocBarrister]

The most dangerous contagion we now confront is the coronavirus, which has killed more than 20,000 Americans and thrown more than 16 million out of work. The second-most-dangerous contagion is the conspiracy-mongering, hostility to science and outright irrationality promulgated by President Trump and his loudmouth media enablers. It will take intensive contact tracing to follow the spread of crackpot ideas: Is Trump infecting the cable news hosts, or are they infecting him? Suffice it to say, the president and his media fans are both afflicted with perilous misconceptions that are making the threat from the coronavirus far more acute.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... tionality/

DocBarrister

[Brooklyn]

The government of China has distributed masks to its 1.4 billion citizens and it gives some to overseas Chinese as well:

https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/health-e ... -singapore


At least a dozen are given to students in Singapore. You have to wonder if that country supply all those people with masks, why can't the USA do the same to its citizens where the population is so much smaller?

[Peter Brown]

but....what?

Go on, TLD, go on. You are implying what?

You read the $2 trillion bill, yet, TLD? I posted it the other day?

If not, why not?

we ALL get it.....tRump is a cad. Yes, and it's daytime. Move on.........have you no other stories or thoughts beyond 'tRump stinks".

WE get it.....but, so does Biden. Thanks Democrats.

TLD has found the answer: Trump. I swear, no matter what happens, it's always on Trump. Not even certain why we bother here...

It is pretty laughable. Trump bears the rightful blame of a lot of things. But it’s becoming the boy who cried wolf from the media’s talking heads. It’s their only taking point. “Trump bad.”

We’ve come full circle on all the “information.” And regardless of the news and how it breaks or evolves now-social distancing, testing, modeling, preparedness, travel bans- WHO honesty, China’s honesty, what DRs know, when they knew it, the news has swung both ways on all of these issues. And regardless of what the experts say today- It was wrong. We swear. There is only one fall guy. Trump.

They have laid the whole pandemic on Trump’s shoulders. At least that’s their thesis. They are now crossing their fingers that it sticks and it motivates people to come out and vote for an otherwise completely uninspiring Biden.

And immediately below your post comes DocB with yet another ‘the epidemic and all its faults lie with Donald John Trump’.

[jhu72]

Space made for graph described last evening.

Again the light orange dashed curve line shows the apparent turning (Daily Number of Deaths). We will see if this evenings data continues to confirm.

US Deaths 4-11-20.jpg

Deaths?

This is from the CDC itself:

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/coro ... deaths.pdf

Should “COVID-19” be reported on the death certificate only with a confirmed test? COVID-19 should be reported on the death certificate for all decedents where the disease caused or is assumed to have caused or contributed to death. Certifiers should include as much detail as possible based on their knowledge of the case, medical records, laboratory testing, etc. If the decedent had other chronic conditions such as COPD or asthma that may have also contributed, these conditions can be reported in Part II. (See attached Guidance for Certifying COVID-19 Deaths)

With this "knowledge", you trusting the death count numbers, based on the CDC's recommendations to just, essentially, "wing it" ?

Yup, clinicians are classifying respiratory hang nails as COVID-19. This is not unique to COVID-19. It has always been this way, with even long known causes of death. The most reasonable "evidence based" cause of death. If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, its a duck.

Enough of your silly sophomoric nilistic sophistry. Grow up.

[Brooklyn]

It is pretty laughable. Trump bears the rightful blame of a lot of things. But it’s becoming the boy who cried wolf from the media’s talking heads. It’s their only taking point. “Trump bad.”

We’ve come full circle on all the “information.” And regardless of the news and how it breaks or evolves now-social distancing, testing, modeling, preparedness, travel bans- WHO honesty, China’s honesty, what DRs know, when they knew it, the news has swung both ways on all of these issues. And regardless of what the experts say today- It was wrong. We swear. There is only one fall guy. Trump.

They have laid the whole pandemic on Trump’s shoulders. At least that’s their thesis. They are now crossing their fingers that it sticks and it motivates people to come out and vote for an otherwise completely uninspiring Biden.

Responsibility always goes to the top. The fact that the idiot trump refuses to accept responsibility for inexcusably failing to heed the many warnings he was given and for granting visas to those who brought in virus contamination is a sign of utter stupidity on his part and on those who defend him. The blood of thousands of innocents remains on his wicked little hands whether any right wing delusional wants to believe it or not.

[Carroll81]

Last night on SNL they said we should call it the Hong Kong Fluey.

There is a reason it is called the Chinese Coronavirus

For those that insist the name of the thread be changed...
https://youtu.be/dEfDwc2G2_8

[Typical Lax Dad]

but....what?

Go on, TLD, go on. You are implying what?

You read the $2 trillion bill, yet, TLD? I posted it the other day?

If not, why not?

we ALL get it.....tRump is a cad. Yes, and it's daytime. Move on.........have you no other stories or thoughts beyond 'tRump stinks".

WE get it.....but, so does Biden. Thanks Democrats.

TLD has found the answer: Trump. I swear, no matter what happens, it's always on Trump. Not even certain why we bother here...

It is pretty laughable. Trump bears the rightful blame of a lot of things. But it’s becoming the boy who cried wolf from the media’s talking heads. It’s their only taking point. “Trump bad.”

We’ve come full circle on all the “information.” And regardless of the news and how it breaks or evolves now-social distancing, testing, modeling, preparedness, travel bans- WHO honesty, China’s honesty, what DRs know, when they knew it, the news has swung both ways on all of these issues. And regardless of what the experts say today- It was wrong. We swear. There is only one fall guy. Trump.

They have laid the whole pandemic on Trump’s shoulders. At least that’s their thesis. They are now crossing their fingers that it sticks and it motivates people to come out and vote for an otherwise completely uninspiring Biden.

The pandemic is not Trump’s fault. The fact that it is spreading here is not Trump’s fault. Our slow response and his early denials are his fault. Unless it’s Hillary’s....Remember Benghazi!

[a fan]

but....what?

Go on, TLD, go on. You are implying what?

You read the $2 trillion bill, yet, TLD? I posted it the other day?

If not, why not?

we ALL get it.....tRump is a cad. Yes, and it's daytime. Move on.........have you no other stories or thoughts beyond 'tRump stinks".

WE get it.....but, so does Biden. Thanks Democrats.

TLD has found the answer: Trump. I swear, no matter what happens, it's always on Trump. Not even certain why we bother here...

It is pretty laughable. Trump bears the rightful blame of a lot of things. But it’s becoming the boy who cried wolf from the media’s talking heads. It’s their only taking point. “Trump bad.”

You guys think this "everything bad in the world is the President's fault" is just because of Trump?

Who wants to place a wager that this will continue if Biden wins?

[Typical Lax Dad]

It is pretty laughable. Trump bears the rightful blame of a lot of things. But it’s becoming the boy who cried wolf from the media’s talking heads. It’s their only taking point. “Trump bad.”

We’ve come full circle on all the “information.” And regardless of the news and how it breaks or evolves now-social distancing, testing, modeling, preparedness, travel bans- WHO honesty, China’s honesty, what DRs know, when they knew it, the news has swung both ways on all of these issues. And regardless of what the experts say today- It was wrong. We swear. There is only one fall guy. Trump.

They have laid the whole pandemic on Trump’s shoulders. At least that’s their thesis. They are now crossing their fingers that it sticks and it motivates people to come out and vote for an otherwise completely uninspiring Biden.

Responsibility always goes to the top. The fact that the idiot trump refuses to accept responsibility for inexcusably failing to heed the many warnings he was given and for granting visas to those who brought in virus contamination is a sign of utter stupidity on his part and on those who defend him. The blood of thousands of innocents remains on his wicked little hands whether any right wing delusional wants to believe it or not.

Trump has no responsibility. He’s not a politician.

[Typical Lax Dad]

but....what?

Go on, TLD, go on. You are implying what?

You read the $2 trillion bill, yet, TLD? I posted it the other day?

If not, why not?

we ALL get it.....tRump is a cad. Yes, and it's daytime. Move on.........have you no other stories or thoughts beyond 'tRump stinks".

WE get it.....but, so does Biden. Thanks Democrats.

TLD has found the answer: Trump. I swear, no matter what happens, it's always on Trump. Not even certain why we bother here...

It is pretty laughable. Trump bears the rightful blame of a lot of things. But it’s becoming the boy who cried wolf from the media’s talking heads. It’s their only taking point. “Trump bad.”

You guys think this "everything bad in the world is the President's fault" is just because of Trump?

Who wants to place a wager that this will continue if Biden wins?

Old Joe will get a pass just like Obama did. These guys supported Obama and they will support Old Joe because he will be duly elected.

[DMac]

but....what?

Go on, TLD, go on. You are implying what?

You read the $2 trillion bill, yet, TLD? I posted it the other day?

If not, why not?

we ALL get it.....tRump is a cad. Yes, and it's daytime. Move on.........have you no other stories or thoughts beyond 'tRump stinks".

WE get it.....but, so does Biden. Thanks Democrats.

TLD has found the answer: Trump. I swear, no matter what happens, it's always on Trump. Not even certain why we bother here...

It is pretty laughable. Trump bears the rightful blame of a lot of things. But it’s becoming the boy who cried wolf from the media’s talking heads. It’s their only taking point. “Trump bad.”

We’ve come full circle on all the “information.” And regardless of the news and how it breaks or evolves now-social distancing, testing, modeling, preparedness, travel bans- WHO honesty, China’s honesty, what DRs know, when they knew it, the news has swung both ways on all of these issues. And regardless of what the experts say today- It was wrong. We swear. There is only one fall guy. Trump.

They have laid the whole pandemic on Trump’s shoulders. At least that’s their thesis. They are now crossing their fingers that it sticks and it motivates people to come out and vote for an otherwise completely uninspiring Biden.

And immediately below your post comes DocB with yet another ‘the epidemic and all its faults lie with Donald John Trump’.

Then in rides PB, Trump's knight in shining armor, to set us all straight.
Gonna tells us more about how none of us know anyone who it out of a job?
How none of us know any waiters or waitresses?
How none of give a schidt about suicides?

[Typical Lax Dad]

Space made for graph described last evening.

Again the light orange dashed curve line shows the apparent turning (Daily Number of Deaths). We will see if this evenings data continues to confirm.

US Deaths 4-11-20.jpg

Deaths?

This is from the CDC itself:

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/coro ... deaths.pdf

Should “COVID-19” be reported on the death certificate only with a confirmed test? COVID-19 should be reported on the death certificate for all decedents where the disease caused or is assumed to have caused or contributed to death. Certifiers should include as much detail as possible based on their knowledge of the case, medical records, laboratory testing, etc. If the decedent had other chronic conditions such as COPD or asthma that may have also contributed, these conditions can be reported in Part II. (See attached Guidance for Certifying COVID-19 Deaths)

With this "knowledge", you trusting the death count numbers, based on the CDC's recommendations to just, essentially, "wing it" ?

Yup, clinicians are classifying respiratory hang nails as COVID-19. This is not unique to COVID-19. It has always been this way, with even long known causes of death. The most reasonable "evidence based" cause of death. If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, its a duck.

Enough of your silly sophomoric nilistic sophistry. Grow up.

The Dark Knight is his favorite film. Love him some Heath Ledger

[jhu72]

but....what?

Go on, TLD, go on. You are implying what?

You read the $2 trillion bill, yet, TLD? I posted it the other day?

If not, why not?

we ALL get it.....tRump is a cad. Yes, and it's daytime. Move on.........have you no other stories or thoughts beyond 'tRump stinks".

WE get it.....but, so does Biden. Thanks Democrats.

TLD has found the answer: Trump. I swear, no matter what happens, it's always on Trump. Not even certain why we bother here...

It is pretty laughable. Trump bears the rightful blame of a lot of things. But it’s becoming the boy who cried wolf from the media’s talking heads. It’s their only taking point. “Trump bad.”

We’ve come full circle on all the “information.” And regardless of the news and how it breaks or evolves now-social distancing, testing, modeling, preparedness, travel bans- WHO honesty, China’s honesty, what DRs know, when they knew it, the news has swung both ways on all of these issues. And regardless of what the experts say today- It was wrong. We swear. There is only one fall guy. Trump.

They have laid the whole pandemic on Trump’s shoulders. At least that’s their thesis. They are now crossing their fingers that it sticks and it motivates people to come out and vote for an otherwise completely uninspiring Biden.

The pandemic is not Trump’s fault. The fact that it is spreading here is not Trump’s fault. Our slow response and his early denials are his fault. Unless it’s Hillary’s....Remember Benghazi!

No its all Fauci's fault. Like Trump religiously listens to Fauci. No, its all the Chinese's fault, because they were trying to hide the extent of the problem in their country. Like Trump hasn't tried to do the exact same thing - jawbone the virus away.

[Brooklyn]

Our slow response and his early denials are his fault. Unless it’s Hillary’s....Remember Benghazi!

Yup. Those righties sure like to see their Republican regimes through rose colored glasses. More American embassy employees die under Bush who started 2 needless wars in which he killed off thousands of innocent Middle Easterns. This because he suddenly got an epiphany where he hears the golden voice of God and is inspired to kill in his name. But we need to forget all that according to the righties because Benghazi is so much more important. Yeah, those delusional right wingers sure are a funny lot.

[tech37]

Last night on SNL they said we should call it the Hong Kong Fluey.

There is a reason it is called the Chinese Coronavirus

For those that insist the name of the thread be changed...
https://youtu.be/dEfDwc2G2_8

Maher is the best...thanks for posting!

[Typical Lax Dad]

Our slow response and his early denials are his fault. Unless it’s Hillary’s....Remember Benghazi!

Yup. Those righties sure like to see their Republican regimes through rose colored glasses. More American embassy employees die under Bush who started 2 needless wars in which he killed off thousands of innocent Middle Easterns. This because he suddenly got an epiphany where he hears the golden voice of God and is inspired to kill in his name. But we need to forget all that according to the righties because Benghazi is so much more important. Yeah, those delusional right wingers sure are a funny lot.

One of our guys on Hillary and Benghazi

“And the resist, protest, and delay tactics were another thing we did to ourselves.”

Trump’s resisting and delaying is different. He’s not a politician....it’s Obama and the Chinese government’s fault.

[calourie]

https://www.wsj.com/articles/slow-start ... 1586597401

Interesting article on the attempts to ramp up testing, the implementation of which I see as a critical element in restoring this country to relative health and fiscal normalcy as rapidly as possible. With Abbot currently producing only 50,000 cartridges a day it will take forever to get back to a normal state. I would propose the government focus on finding a way to facilitate increasing that production by a factor of 100.

[runrussellrun]

Space made for graph described last evening.

Again the light orange dashed curve line shows the apparent turning (Daily Number of Deaths). We will see if this evenings data continues to confirm.

US Deaths 4-11-20.jpg

Deaths?

This is from the CDC itself:

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/coro ... deaths.pdf

Should “COVID-19” be reported on the death certificate only with a confirmed test? COVID-19 should be reported on the death certificate for all decedents where the disease caused or is assumed to have caused or contributed to death. Certifiers should include as much detail as possible based on their knowledge of the case, medical records, laboratory testing, etc. If the decedent had other chronic conditions such as COPD or asthma that may have also contributed, these conditions can be reported in Part II. (See attached Guidance for Certifying COVID-19 Deaths)

With this "knowledge", you trusting the death count numbers, based on the CDC's recommendations to just, essentially, "wing it" ?

Yup, clinicians are classifying respiratory hang nails as COVID-19. This is not unique to COVID-19. It has always been this way, with even long known causes of death. The most reasonable "evidence based" cause of death. If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, its a duck.

Enough of your silly sophomoric nilistic sophistry. Grow up.

The Dark Knight is his favorite film. Love him some Heath Ledger

...if he IS going to use a descriptor, an adjective, he should probably spell it correctly. isn't THAT write , mdlaxfan

belief in nothing? that's what your take is ?

What does the CDC stating (above) that one can "assume" the cause of death was V-19, just because a 88 year old died, alone, in the nursing home....and the accuracy of the death numbers.

Sorry, when the CDC has a range of 20k-40k deaths for the annual/season/ flu..........we are just supposed to "believe" everything and anything ?

jhu72....you believe, what? in god? which one? you SURE that is the REAL god?

I believe the fault lies, solely, with tRump.

Like I said , we found the cure for everything. Get rid of the current guy .....

JHU72, you read that $2 trillion bill yet?

exactly

[kramerica.inc]

It is pretty laughable. Trump bears the rightful blame of a lot of things. But it’s becoming the boy who cried wolf from the media’s talking heads. It’s their only taking point. “Trump bad.”

We’ve come full circle on all the “information.” And regardless of the news and how it breaks or evolves now-social distancing, testing, modeling, preparedness, travel bans- WHO honesty, China’s honesty, what DRs know, when they knew it, the news has swung both ways on all of these issues. And regardless of what the experts say today- It was wrong. We swear. There is only one fall guy. Trump.

They have laid the whole pandemic on Trump’s shoulders. At least that’s their thesis. They are now crossing their fingers that it sticks and it motivates people to come out and vote for an otherwise completely uninspiring Biden.

Responsibility always goes to the top. The fact that the idiot trump refuses to accept responsibility for inexcusably failing to heed the many warnings he was given and for granting visas to those who brought in virus contamination is a sign of utter stupidity on his part and on those who defend him. The blood of thousands of innocents remains on his wicked little hands whether any right wing delusional wants to believe it or not.

Good example, Brookie!

When it happened people were blasting Trump for “racist” fear-mongering policies and overreaction of visa issue and travel bans.

Now he didn’t go far enough.

Happy Easter everyone!

[Typical Lax Dad]

Space made for graph described last evening.

Again the light orange dashed curve line shows the apparent turning (Daily Number of Deaths). We will see if this evenings data continues to confirm.

US Deaths 4-11-20.jpg

Deaths?

This is from the CDC itself:

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/coro ... deaths.pdf

Should “COVID-19” be reported on the death certificate only with a confirmed test? COVID-19 should be reported on the death certificate for all decedents where the disease caused or is assumed to have caused or contributed to death. Certifiers should include as much detail as possible based on their knowledge of the case, medical records, laboratory testing, etc. If the decedent had other chronic conditions such as COPD or asthma that may have also contributed, these conditions can be reported in Part II. (See attached Guidance for Certifying COVID-19 Deaths)

With this "knowledge", you trusting the death count numbers, based on the CDC's recommendations to just, essentially, "wing it" ?

Yup, clinicians are classifying respiratory hang nails as COVID-19. This is not unique to COVID-19. It has always been this way, with even long known causes of death. The most reasonable "evidence based" cause of death. If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, its a duck.

Enough of your silly sophomoric nilistic sophistry. Grow up.

The Dark Knight is his favorite film. Love him some Heath Ledger

...if he IS going to use a descriptor, an adjective, he should probably spell it correctly. isn't THAT write , mdlaxfan

belief in nothing? that's what your take is ?

What does the CDC stating (above) that one can "assume" the cause of death was V-19, just because a 88 year old died, alone, in the nursing home....and the accuracy of the death numbers.

Sorry, when the CDC has a range of 20k-40k deaths for the annual/season/ flu..........we are just supposed to "believe" everything and anything ?

jhu72....you believe, what? in god? which one? you SURE that is the REAL god?

I believe the fault lies, solely, with tRump.

Like I said , we found the cure for everything. Get rid of the current guy .....

JHU72, you read that $2 trillion bill yet?

exactly

All of these old people are dying of the flu unless you test the corpse for Covid. Never mind the other 5 dead bodies in the home tested positive a few days before.