6ftstick wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:44 am
Astonishing our friends on the left would prefer people die than use the "SNAKE OIL" Trump says is hopeful. True TDS
Dr. Oz this morning said his staff has been running big data from hospitals health insurance companies and other sources. 100 million people. They identified 11,000 rheumatoid arthritis and lupus patients on a regular regimen of Hydroxychloroquine. Not one had tested positive for Coravid-19. Hes interviewing another physician (Mt.Sinai I think) today thats been prescribing the drug for decades. NOT A SINGLE side effect.
I am not calling it snake oil, but it is only "proven" to work anecdotally - which means it fails basic scientific rigor (selection bias, controlled trials, etc).
From WebMD (for hydroxychloroquine):
Side Effects
Nausea, vomiting, loss of appetite, diarrhea, dizziness, or headache may occur. If any of these effects last or get worse, tell your doctor or pharmacist promptly.
Remember that your doctor has prescribed this medication because he or she has judged that the benefit to you is greater than the risk of side effects. Many people using this medication do not have serious side effects.
Tell your doctor right away if you have any serious side effects, including: slow heartbeat, symptoms of heart failure (such as shortness of breath, swelling ankles/feet, unusual tiredness, unusual/sudden weight gain), mental/mood changes (such as anxiety, depression, rare thoughts of suicide, hallucinations), hearing changes (such as ringing in the ears, hearing loss), easy bruising/bleeding, signs of infection (such as sore throat that doesn't go away, fever), signs of liver disease (such as severe stomach/abdominal pain, yellowing eyes/skin, dark urine), muscle weakness, unwanted/uncontrolled movements (including tongue/face twitching), hair loss, hair/skin color changes.
This medication may cause low blood sugar (hypoglycemia). Tell your doctor right away if you develop symptoms of low blood sugar, such as sudden sweating, shaking, hunger, blurred vision, dizziness, or tingling hands/feet. If you have diabetes, be sure to check your blood sugars regularly. Your doctor may need to adjust your diabetes medication.
Get medical help right away if you have any very serious side effects, including: severe dizziness, fainting, fast/irregular heartbeat, seizures.
This medication may cause serious eye/vision problems. The risk for these side effects is increased with long-term use of this medication and with taking this medication in high doses. Get medical help right away if you have any symptoms of serious eye problems, including: sensitivity to light, vision changes (such as light flashes/streaks, blurred vision, difficulty reading, missing areas of vision).
A very serious allergic reaction to this drug is rare. However, get medical help right away if you notice any symptoms of a serious allergic reaction, including: rash, itching/swelling (especially of the face/tongue/throat), dizziness, trouble breathing.
This is not a complete list of possible side effects. If you notice other effects not listed above, contact your doctor or pharmacist.
Just to give you one example about the "reports" that no one that this particular doctor knows has come down with CV - the fact that a patient has lupus means they are at severe risk should they get it. So they may be taking a whole lot of precautions to avoid it. Kind of messes up the data...you just don't know the real answer.
There is a reason the drug approval process is hard. A lot of people's lives depend on it. Now, granted this drug has already been approved. The question is whether it is effective. That requires real data, and anecdotes are actually not useful. And more importantly, there may be other drugs out there that are more or even much more effective in treatment (assuming this drug is found to be effective). The process to see that is just as important...
