Duke 2020

[calourie]

There's always the axiom which says "The sooner you fall behind the more time you have to catch up".

[Hoponboard]

IL reported that Robertson is out for the year with torn ACL.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.inside ... orce/55873

[Lenwood117]

IL reported that Robertson is out for the year with torn ACL.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.inside ... orce/55873

That stinks, feel for the kid.

[molo]

I just watched the replay of the Air Force game and have a few observations. First, Duke is clearly missing an X attackman. With Carpenter manning the righthander's spot, Manown, a lefty who reminds me of Quinzani, though not quite as talented, is playing at X with the Canandian freshman at the lefty spot. They need a ball handler to play behind the goal. Second, I like depth and am always glad to see lots of players get in, but there is no need to run three midfields on a cool day. As Air Force was catching up, Duke was still running the second and third well into the fourth quarter. Only on the penultimate possession did Dino come with his three best (or in my view, two of his three best) offensive middies. Third, and in a similar vein, one starting attackman--the guy who plays X and presumably qbs the offense--doesn't play emo while they use two pure emo specialists. If effect, the sub patterns were reminiscent of a scrimmage in which you are looking at a lot of players who may or may not play much in regular games. Finally, Duke absolutely dominated on face-offs but still lost the game. There are some among us who whenever a FOGO doesn't dominate a game.
The bad news for Duke opponents is that this team should prove dangerous once they come closer to settling on a lineup. D was surprisingly vulnerable, but then again AF is much better than I thought they would be.

[DMac]

molo wrote
There are some among us who whenever a FOGO doesn't dominate a game.

Multiple choice:
A. Love it.
B. Hate it.
C. Recognize that, "face offs wins games"!!!! is highly debatable.

[molo]

A and C

[jrn19]

molo wrote
There are some among us who whenever a FOGO doesn't dominate a game.

Multiple choice:
A. Love it.
B. Hate it.
C. Recognize that, "face offs wins games"!!!! is highly debatable.

It will be nice when TD graduates - great, transcendent player don't get me wrong - to no longer have a 75%+ FOGO who completely tilts the game and merely have good-to-great faceoff guys and not have to hear this incessant talk about how the FOGO is the most important position or how you can't win if you don't win face-offs or you have to have a great FOGO to win the national title. It helps and matters to a degree, but people will see when the top guys revert back to a more normal level that it isn't such a huge gamechanger. Maryland in 2017 wasn't a great, nor even good face-off team and won it and Virginia obviously was dominated there on Memorial Day last year and dominated the scoresheet. A guy like TD or Trevor changes a lot, but if you play great defense you can negate it. You need a dominant X attackmen more than you need a great FOGO.

[OCanada]

A Transcendent GK can also tilt the field and has

[stupefied]

A. Love it. Much rather see a good goalie who is hot ie Host win a game by playing brillantly throughout. Favor faceoffs as great action in most games sometimes with wing play being critical but ...

while Ierlan is a tremendous athlete whose excellence should be applauded , the redundancy of him tilting the field game in game out isa huge factor that outweighs even most of the best field players not named Spencer Thankfully he is the anomaly and very few fogos help both their offense and defense so disporpionately to time on field

Imagine the difference in Cornell and Yale fortunes if Iehrlan had chosen Cornell.On impact alone, Ierlan should be in running for Tewarrton

[OldOrange]

A dominant FOGO can tilt the field but it depends upon what the offense does with the extra possessions. In last years title game, TD won 18 of the 24 draws he took. Petey LaSalla was 4-17, Schwenk was 2-8 and Yale's other FOGO was 1-1. UVA won 13-9. Alex Rode saved 60% of the shots he faced which, in my opinion, was a bigger factor than TD's success at the dot.

[PicLax]

Should be a fun game to watch tomorrow, with some good match-ups. Good face off players both sides. I’m assuming Giles-Harris covering Nolting. A somewhat out-of-sorts Duke offense last week going against a somewhat out-of-sorts HP defense.

[wgdsr]

A. Love it. Much rather see a good goalie who is hot ie Host win a game by playing brillantly throughout. Favor faceoffs as great action in most games sometimes with wing play being critical but ...

while Ierlan is a tremendous athlete whose excellence should be applauded , the redundancy of him tilting the field game in game out isa huge factor that outweighs even most of the best field players not named Spencer Thankfully he is the anomaly and very few fogos help both their offense and defense so disporpionately to time on field

Imagine the difference in Cornell and Yale fortunes if Iehrlan had chosen Cornell.On impact alone, Ierlan should be in running for Tewarrton

agree.
if drafting, would go gk, fogo, then other aspects/players.

[DMac]

A dominant FOGO can tilt the field but it depends upon what the offense does with the extra possessions. In last years title game, TD won 18 of the 24 draws he took. Petey LaSalla was 4-17, Schwenk was 2-8 and Yale's other FOGO was 1-1. UVA won 13-9. Alex Rode saved 60% of the shots he faced which, in my opinion, was a bigger factor than TD's success at the dot.

....and of the nine scored by Yale, how many came on the possession from a face off win (I don't know, but you can bet a number of them didn't)?
See Loyola 2012....4 for 24 on face offs for the week end, yet they took the hardware home.
See Cuse in OT for the title in 09....didn't win the face off but took the hardware home.
Face offs are highly over rated by many.

[wgdsr]

A dominant FOGO can tilt the field but it depends upon what the offense does with the extra possessions. In last years title game, TD won 18 of the 24 draws he took. Petey LaSalla was 4-17, Schwenk was 2-8 and Yale's other FOGO was 1-1. UVA won 13-9. Alex Rode saved 60% of the shots he faced which, in my opinion, was a bigger factor than TD's success at the dot.

....and of the nine scored by Yale, how many came on the possession from a face off win (I don't know, but you can be a number of them didn't)?
See Loyola 2012....4 for 24 on face offs for the week end, yet they took the hardware home.
See Cuse in OT for the title in 09....didn't win the face off but took the hardware home.
Face offs are highly over rated by many.

and the many think they're highly underrated and cherry picked by the few!
ha! must be lax season.

[molo]

HP was only down 12-8 on the fourth before Duke pulled away for a final score that like much more of a blowout than it was for much of the game. Giles-Harris controlled Nolting. In the AF game, Duke ran three midfields well into the fourth quarter while today I think Montgomery was on the field for every possession in the fourth. Still need to develop a presence behind the goal.
Dino pulled Upgren in the second. Who starts next game?

[molo]

HP was only down 12-8 on the fourth before Duke pulled away for a final score that like much more of a blowout than it was for much of the game. Giles-Harris controlled Nolting. In the AF game, Duke ran three midfields well into the fourth quarter while today I think Montgomery was on the field for every possession in the fourth. Still need to develop a presence behind the goal.
Dino pulled Upgren in the second. Who starts next game?

[Laxxal22]

Blue Devils may have a real youth movement going on defense. Freshmen Kenny Brower and Tyler Carpenter were both starters in the Air Force game. Against High Point classmate Will Fisoli and soph Braden Burke were added to the mix and got a lot of run. The preferred set of longsticks for most of the game was Giles-Harris and three freshmen. Obviously Duke is known to experiment early on, so the D could get shuffled again, but in a year where the Blue Devils are expected to take some lumps it might make sense to give the young defenders a lot of work so they're experienced and ready when Brennan O'Neil arrives.

[PhishFall97]

#42 hurt? Did not see him touch the field on Saturday.. Also was unable to watch parts of the game.

[jakester]

Dyson Williams is unreal. Skill, vision, IQ. I think he will be a better college player than O'Neil, and that's saying alot because I think O'Neil can be an AA player.

I can assure you that Dyson Williams will not disappoint. Whitby (and Durham Region for that matter) is a major hotbed for lacrosse talent in Canada. Lacrosse is in Dyson's blood as his father is Shawn Williams (look him up if you don't know).

Like I was saying.....

[Badlands]

Faceoff play really disappointing against Richmond. Duke should've had a much bigger margin. Sloppy play and poor D in first half. They were saved by #51 Williams in second quarter. First middie line really needs to get it together. They contributed very little offensively.