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What's with all the "Power Play" nonsense on ESPN this year?

Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2024 3:20 pm
by renault
Where did this come from? Why are lacrosse guys like Quint saying "power play" as if it's a term used in field lacrosse?

Re: What's with all the "Power Play" nonsense on ESPN this year?

Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2024 3:37 pm
by Big Dog
used in the pro league?

Re: What's with all the "Power Play" nonsense on ESPN this year?

Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2024 3:56 pm
by bearlaxfan
Makes the sport easier to understand for nubes and the lax-curious. Grow the game I guess...

Re: What's with all the "Power Play" nonsense on ESPN this year?

Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2024 3:57 pm
by 10stone5
Because they're goofy.

Re: What's with all the "Power Play" nonsense on ESPN this year?

Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2024 4:44 pm
by CU77
Big Dog wrote: Sat Mar 16, 2024 3:37 pm used in the pro league?
Yes. And Quint et al relentlessly promote it.

Re: What's with all the "Power Play" nonsense on ESPN this year?

Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2024 5:34 pm
by Unknown Participant
I think it is because it is gender neutral. The term "freshman" has been eradicated from any feed I watch (hockey/lax), and several networks use "player up" instead of "man up" as a graphic. I don't agree w/it obviously since it is all men playing, but that's libs for ya.

Re: What's with all the "Power Play" nonsense on ESPN this year?

Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2024 5:39 pm
by PizzaSnake
Unknown Participant wrote: Sat Mar 16, 2024 5:34 pm I think it is because it is gender neutral. The term "freshman" has been eradicated from any feed I watch (hockey/lax), and several networks use "player up" instead of "man up" as a graphic. I don't agree w/it obviously since it is all men playing, but that's libs for ya.
When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail, huh?

Re: What's with all the "Power Play" nonsense on ESPN this year?

Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2024 5:54 pm
by Farfromgeneva
I’m sorry but anyone originating this thread is required to have a Jerry Seinfeld avatar…

Re: What's with all the "Power Play" nonsense on ESPN this year?

Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2024 6:01 pm
by ExLax
Farfromgeneva wrote: Sat Mar 16, 2024 5:54 pm I’m sorry but anyone originating this thread is required to have a Jerry Seinfeld avatar…
^ +1 for funny and accurate

Re: What's with all the "Power Play" nonsense on ESPN this year?

Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2024 6:22 pm
by molo
Pimping the PLL

Re: What's with all the "Power Play" nonsense on ESPN this year?

Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2024 1:29 am
by jrn19
Unknown Participant wrote: Sat Mar 16, 2024 5:34 pm I think it is because it is gender neutral. The term "freshman" has been eradicated from any feed I watch (hockey/lax), and several networks use "player up" instead of "man up" as a graphic. I don't agree w/it obviously since it is all men playing, but that's libs for ya.
You alright there pal? Everything okay at home?

Re: What's with all the "Power Play" nonsense on ESPN this year?

Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2024 6:40 am
by DMac
Unknown Participant wrote: Sat Mar 16, 2024 5:34 pm I think it is because it is gender neutral. The term "freshman" has been eradicated from any feed I watch (hockey/lax), and several networks use "player up" instead of "man up" as a graphic. I don't agree w/it obviously since it is all men playing, but that's libs for ya.
Take your politics to the Water Cooler. There's not one word of truth to this.
No girls playing hockey or lacrosse these days? Tune into the Cuse-UNC wlax
game played yesterday and get back to me on how many times you hear
the female commentator say, "Benoit, the freshman" (phenomenal D girl for
the Cuse). You need new feeds....I still hear freshman, man up, man down,
player up, player down, woman up, woman down, and yup, power play on
all the channels I get.

Re: What's with all the "Power Play" nonsense on ESPN this year?

Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2024 7:55 am
by rolldodge
molo wrote: Sat Mar 16, 2024 6:22 pmPimping the PLL
ding, ding, ding!

Re: What's with all the "Power Play" nonsense on ESPN this year?

Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2024 8:06 am
by faircornell
If enduring "power play" and 'sock trick" are the price to pay for all of the streaming of games now available, I suppose it's worth it.

I guess that the next vocabulary equivalence from the indoor game to look out for is if they start calling ground balls "loosies".

Re: What's with all the "Power Play" nonsense on ESPN this year?

Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2024 12:57 pm
by laxpert
Things change
At one time the positions in lacrosse were : Att - In Home, Out Home, First Attack... Mids- Second Attack, Center, Second Defense ... D was Point , Coverpoint and First Defense.
By rule Goalies wore jersey numbers 1-9, Defense 10-19, Middies 20-39 and Attack 40-49. I believe JHU followed this rule until the early 70's

Re: What's with all the "Power Play" nonsense on ESPN this year?

Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2024 1:12 pm
by MDlaxfan76
laxpert wrote: Sun Mar 17, 2024 12:57 pm Things change
At one time the positions in lacrosse were : Att - In Home, Out Home, First Attack... Mids- Second Attack, Center, Second Defense ... D was Point , Coverpoint and First Defense.
By rule Goalies wore jersey numbers 1-9, Defense 10-19, Middies 20-39 and Attack 40-49. I believe JHU followed this rule until the early 70's
Interesting.

When did the terminology re positions change in the men's game?...I never heard my dad and his friends who played in the '40's and '50's use those terms. They did refer to a crease attack man, and crease defenseman, and center middie, as my era did, but not those other terms. Earlier?

The women's side was doing those or similar terms as you suggest in the '70's and '80's...

We didn't call poles in the midfield LSM's in the '70's but that made sense to adopt within a few years, nor was the term FOGO used back then, as most stayed on. My HS classmate in '76 was the first face-off specialist in HS to be recognized as such as all-state, at least in Maryland. A true FOGO. But the specialization had started a bit earlier if I recall...but again, most stayed on.

Re: What's with all the "Power Play" nonsense on ESPN this year?

Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2024 1:32 pm
by mdk01
renault wrote: Sat Mar 16, 2024 3:20 pm Where did this come from? Why are lacrosse guys like Quint saying "power play" as if it's a term used in field lacrosse?
Because the ACC told them to. I'll :D

Re: What's with all the "Power Play" nonsense on ESPN this year?

Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2024 1:37 pm
by mdk01
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sun Mar 17, 2024 1:12 pm
laxpert wrote: Sun Mar 17, 2024 12:57 pm Things change
At one time the positions in lacrosse were : Att - In Home, Out Home, First Attack... Mids- Second Attack, Center, Second Defense ... D was Point , Coverpoint and First Defense.
By rule Goalies wore jersey numbers 1-9, Defense 10-19, Middies 20-39 and Attack 40-49. I believe JHU followed this rule until the early 70's
Interesting.

When did the terminology re positions change in the men's game?...I never heard my dad and his friends who played in the '40's and '50's use those terms. They did refer to a crease attack man, and crease defenseman, and center middie, as my era did, but not those other terms. Earlier?

The women's side was doing those or similar terms as you suggest in the '70's and '80's...

We didn't call poles in the midfield LSM's in the '70's but that made sense to adopt within a few years, nor was the term FOGO used back then, as most stayed on. My HS classmate in '76 was the first face-off specialist in HS to be recognized as such as all-state, at least in Maryland. A true FOGO. But the specialization had started a bit earlier if I recall...but again, most stayed on.
I think LSM came into existence when the rule changed limited them to 1. FOGO in the 90s, though the specialization began in the 70s.

Re: What's with all the "Power Play" nonsense on ESPN this year?

Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2024 1:37 pm
by faircornell
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sun Mar 17, 2024 1:12 pm
laxpert wrote: Sun Mar 17, 2024 12:57 pm Things change
At one time the positions in lacrosse were : Att - In Home, Out Home, First Attack... Mids- Second Attack, Center, Second Defense ... D was Point , Coverpoint and First Defense.
By rule Goalies wore jersey numbers 1-9, Defense 10-19, Middies 20-39 and Attack 40-49. I believe JHU followed this rule until the early 70's
Interesting.

When did the terminology re positions change in the men's game?...I never heard my dad and his friends who played in the '40's and '50's use those terms. They did refer to a crease attack man, and crease defenseman, and center middie, as my era did, but not those other terms. Earlier?

The women's side was doing those or similar terms as you suggest in the '70's and '80's...

We didn't call poles in the midfield LSM's in the '70's but that made sense to adopt within a few years, nor was the term FOGO used back then, as most stayed on. My HS classmate in '76 was the first face-off specialist in HS to be recognized as such as all-state, at least in Maryland. A true FOGO. But the specialization had started a bit earlier if I recall...but again, most stayed on.
I recall that in the early 70s score sheets still had these positions listed. I think in box, one player is designated the "in home" to take bench penalties.

Re: What's with all the "Power Play" nonsense on ESPN this year?

Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2024 2:51 pm
by MDlaxfan76
faircornell wrote: Sun Mar 17, 2024 1:37 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sun Mar 17, 2024 1:12 pm
laxpert wrote: Sun Mar 17, 2024 12:57 pm Things change
At one time the positions in lacrosse were : Att - In Home, Out Home, First Attack... Mids- Second Attack, Center, Second Defense ... D was Point , Coverpoint and First Defense.
By rule Goalies wore jersey numbers 1-9, Defense 10-19, Middies 20-39 and Attack 40-49. I believe JHU followed this rule until the early 70's
Interesting.

When did the terminology re positions change in the men's game?...I never heard my dad and his friends who played in the '40's and '50's use those terms. They did refer to a crease attack man, and crease defenseman, and center middie, as my era did, but not those other terms. Earlier?

The women's side was doing those or similar terms as you suggest in the '70's and '80's...

We didn't call poles in the midfield LSM's in the '70's but that made sense to adopt within a few years, nor was the term FOGO used back then, as most stayed on. My HS classmate in '76 was the first face-off specialist in HS to be recognized as such as all-state, at least in Maryland. A true FOGO. But the specialization had started a bit earlier if I recall...but again, most stayed on.
I recall that in the early 70s score sheets still had these positions listed. I think in box, one player is designated the "in home" to take bench penalties.
Mmm, I know we weren’t using them in rec and my early HS years, but interesting re score sheets. I’ll look later at whether Bob Scott’s book mentions those terms.