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IL Class of 2023 Power 100 Incoming Freshmen

Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2023 1:44 pm
by 10stone5
IL just came out with their women’s Top 100 Freshmen, so the men’s version should be out in a couple days.

Interesting also with the men’s list,
since Ty Xanders recently left IL.

Re: IL Class of 2023 Power 100 Incoming Freshmen

Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2023 3:01 pm
by Powellfan22
Given that Xanders just left IL, I am guessing he still had a pretty big hand in their rankings.

Re: IL Class of 2023 Power 100 Incoming Freshmen

Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2023 3:28 pm
by GaitsRightHand
Owen Duffy #1

Re: IL Class of 2023 Power 100 Incoming Freshmen

Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:12 pm
by 10stone5
Here's a rough cut of what I came up with,

Name Commitment
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Owen Duffy North Carolina
Nate Kabiri Princeton
Trey Deere Syracuse
Ty Banks Georgetown
McCabe Millon Virginia
Anderson Moore Georgetown
Kyle Lehman Penn State
Brock Behrman Notre Dame
Colin Burns Princeton
Mac Christmas Duke
Hunter Chauvette Johns Hopkins
Sean Creter Maryland
Tomas Delgado Duke
Caleb Fyock Ohio State
Willem Firth Cornell
Leo Hoffman Penn
Benn Johnston Duke
AJ Nikolic Cornell
Hunter Spiess Princeton
DJ Clark Denver
Tucker Wade Princeton
Ryan Goldstein Cornell
Brady Wambach North Carolina
Cole Aasheim North Carolina
Anthony Annunziata Yale
Jimmy Ayers Johns Hopkins
Colby Baldwin Penn State
Chase Band Virginia
Ben Bavar Brown
Ben Beacham Penn
Matthew Bockelmann Brown
Aiden Bodonyi Ohio State
Carsen Brandt Marquette
Henry Brayer Brown
Owen Bunten Army
Roman Buono Yale
Gavin Burlace Notre Dame
Wills Burt Virginia
Joseph Calandrino Penn State
Patrick Carragher Penn State
Aidan Carrello Georgetown
James Carroll Georgetown
Quinn Cepiel Villanova
Rhett Chambers Providence
Rowan Clay Michigan
Will Cohen Dartmouth
Liam Connor Colgate
Gavin Creo Richmond
Austin Cunningham Army
Evan Curry Saint Joseph's
Charlie Iler Johns Hopkins
Gavin Dallas Denver
Brody Davis Denver
Caulley Deringer Virginia
Ryan DiRocco Army
Owen Dixon North Carolina
Brett Koopman North Carolina
Ryan Doherty UAlbany
Will Erdmann Virginia
Jordan Faison Notre Dame
Stevie Finnell Duke
Marco Firmender Penn
Connor Foley Brown
Hamish McPherson Maryland
Jake Melchionni Villanova
Kyle Foster Ohio State
Alex Gatto Michigan
Luke Gilmartin Cornell
Cal Girard Duke
Nick Golini Navy
Peter Grandolfo Bucknell
Thomas Gravino Maryland
Jackson Greene Harvard
Andrew Greenspan Notre Dame
Alec Gregorek Navy
Donny Scott Syracuse
Robert Simone, Jr. Army
Jaxon Smart Cornell
Aidan Haggerty Villanova
Pasha Hakimi Penn
Zach Hayashi Navy
Charles Hazard Johns Hopkins
Kasey Heath Lehigh
Zachary Hepworth Ohio State
Larry Horning Georgetown
Wyatt Hottle Syracuse
Michael Ippoliti Syracuse
Jordan Ito Tufts
Patrick Jameison Duke
Triston Jewell Johns Hopkins
Ben Johnson Penn State
Bradley Johnson Marquette
Maddox Johnson Denver
Niko Karetsos North Carolina
Tucker Kellogg Syracuse
Shuey Kelly Georgetown
Jack Kiefer Duke
Quintan Kilrain Johns Hopkins
Gabriel Sorichetti Johns Hopkins
Jake Spallina Syracuse
Carson Krammer Princeton
Colin Kurdyla Rutgers
Ryan Landolphi Navy
Jack Leland Georgetown
Spencer Liston Providence
Alex Lobel Michigan
Ike Lohnes Cornell
Aidan Lough Navy
Shawn Lyght Notre Dame

Re: IL Class of 2023 Power 100 Incoming Freshmen

Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:21 pm
by Matnum PI
FWIW, these are the FanLax Fantasy League draft picks thus far. Draft only started on Sunday so many more coming. The drafted upperclassmen (Jack Boyden, Stephen Avery, etc.) are players who weren't drafted last season and or earlier. For obvious reasons, most of the draftees are freshman.

Pick # Team -
1 1.1 Maddog McCabe Millon FR A UVA
2 1.2 GreenieLax Jack Boyden SR A UVA
3 1.3 girlsdoitbetter Nate Kabiri FR A Princeton
4 1.4 ChopSticks Stephen Avery SR M Denver
5 1.5 Matnum PI Aidan McLane JR A/M Brown
6 1.6 GenghiskhanBluejay Owen Duffy FR A UNC
7 1.7 DU-Fan Kyle Lehman FR A PSU
8 1.8 Lax1 Colin Burns FR A Princeton
9 1.9 OCanada Brock Behrman FR A Notre Dame
10 1,10 NJLaxx11 Leo Hoffman FR M UPenn
11 1.11 NC Lax Willem Firth FR A Cornell
12 1.12 FCALax
13 1.13 PA Talk
14 1.14 CalLaxDad
15 1.15 UK Lax
16 1.16 harrisoncoburn
17 1.17 Farfromgeneva
18 1.18 Keoni007
19 1.19 Typical Lax Dad
20 1,20 ohmilax34
21 2.1 ohmilax34

Re: IL Class of 2023 Power 100 Incoming Freshmen

Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:23 pm
by 10stone5
Firth is definitely on my top 10-11 list.

Unfortunately, Hoffman appeared to have a pretty bad injury, maybe he's recovered.

Re: IL Class of 2023 Power 100 Incoming Freshmen

Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:41 pm
by Matnum PI
As a rule, we don't discuss players until they're drafted so there may be some players still to come that coaches will fawn over after he's picked but, thus far, the general consensus for Fantasy Coach favorite seems to be Owen Duffy.

Re: IL Class of 2023 Power 100 Incoming Freshmen

Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:59 pm
by 4050
These lists are irrelevant. Little to no effort goes into maintaining and adjusting evaluations once IL publishes their initial list 2 years prior. Many players leapfrog IL's ranked players but IL doesn't make adjustments for those players (nor do they adjust for those who have fallen off the charts). Ranking systems in other sports such as basketball and football adjust constantly well into the athletes senior year.

Re: IL Class of 2023 Power 100 Incoming Freshmen

Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2023 7:21 pm
by Matnum PI
4050 wrote: Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:59 pm These lists are irrelevant...
As lists unto themselves, I agree. But as a starting point for forums like us, it works. In other words, their list is good for us to tell them how they got it wrong and why. Their list is mediocre, the feedback from the FanLax Forum post-ers is great.

Re: IL Class of 2023 Power 100 Incoming Freshmen

Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2023 9:09 pm
by Farfromgeneva
Matnum PI wrote: Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:21 pm FWIW, these are the FanLax Fantasy League draft picks thus far. Draft only started on Sunday so many more coming. The drafted upperclassmen (Jack Boyden, Stephen Avery, etc.) are players who weren't drafted last season and or earlier. For obvious reasons, most of the draftees are freshman.

Pick # Team -
1 1.1 Maddog McCabe Millon FR A UVA
2 1.2 GreenieLax Jack Boyden SR A UVA
3 1.3 girlsdoitbetter Nate Kabiri FR A Princeton
4 1.4 ChopSticks Stephen Avery SR M Denver
5 1.5 Matnum PI Aidan McLane JR A/M Brown
6 1.6 GenghiskhanBluejay Owen Duffy FR A UNC
7 1.7 DU-Fan Kyle Lehman FR A PSU
8 1.8 Lax1 Colin Burns FR A Princeton
9 1.9 OCanada Brock Behrman FR A Notre Dame
10 1,10 NJLaxx11 Leo Hoffman FR M UPenn
11 1.11 NC Lax Willem Firth FR A Cornell
12 1.12 FCALax
13 1.13 PA Talk
14 1.14 CalLaxDad
15 1.15 UK Lax
16 1.16 harrisoncoburn
17 1.17 Farfromgeneva
18 1.18 Keoni007
19 1.19 Typical Lax Dad
20 1,20 ohmilax34
21 2.1 ohmilax34
Personally think Kabiri and Hoffman should’ve been higher. (And Avery over McLane but that’s more position driven and not FR)

That should read Farfromgenevajr as well. He ate up competition last season like he was brushing dirt off his shoulder.

Re: IL Class of 2023 Power 100 Incoming Freshmen

Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2023 10:05 pm
by Matnum PI
Farfromgeneva wrote: Wed Nov 15, 2023 9:09 pm Personally think Kabiri and Hoffman should’ve been higher...
Hoffman at 10 is a steal...

Re: IL Class of 2023 Power 100 Incoming Freshmen

Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2023 9:16 am
by Powellfan22
If IL takes fall ball performances into account (I think they do based on when they release the list), I think Kabiri (3 - Princeton) and Duffy (4 - UNC) will leapfrog Millon (1 - UVA). Kabiri put up a ton of points against Notre Dame, as did Duffy against Ohio State. Lots of hype already surrounding Duffy it feels like. Millon was pretty quiet in UVA's scrimmages I believe. Based on IL fall ball reports I also wouldn't be surprised to see Lehman (7 - Penn State), Christmas (10 - Duke) Deere (18 - Syracuse) and Colin Burns (19 - Princeton) rise up the rankings.

Current List top 50 is here: https://www.insidelacrosse.com/recruiti ... inglist/12

Re: IL Class of 2023 Power 100 Incoming Freshmen

Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2023 9:55 am
by HopFan16
Hunter Chauvette scored 4 times as a starting middie against Richmond this fall and twice against Lehigh. Shot is possibly better than advertised. He was #21 and a 4-star this summer...would be surprised if he's not a 5-star and closer to the top 10 now.

Keep in mind IL historically takes into account a player's projected role in the spring. So a kid could be the most talented player in the country but if IL doesn't think he'll get much playing time, that might ding him in the rankings. They edge toward guys who are likely to start.

Re: IL Class of 2023 Power 100 Incoming Freshmen

Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2023 10:52 am
by ohmilax34
As someone who hasn't drafted yet, because I won the whole thing last season, I'm not happy about the discussion of undrafted players. But, there's nothing I can do about it.

Re: IL Class of 2023 Power 100 Incoming Freshmen

Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2023 11:26 am
by Farfromgeneva
ohmilax34 wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 10:52 am As someone who hasn't drafted yet, because I won the whole thing last season, I'm not happy about the discussion of undrafted players. But, there's nothing I can do about it.
That rule applies to the fantasy thread. Could travel with team members but I see only drafted guys mentioned by participants.

And nobody is going to have sympathy the way you beat a poor child in the semi and also used multiple UMAss pieces that week who happened to end one of his two favorite college teams (Hobart, Pton near second) seasons in the real world. It’s like you were trying to one up the Grinch who stole Christmas and now begging for sympathy?

;). (Having fun, we never should’ve beaten Hip and Knee the week prior)

Re: IL Class of 2023 Power 100 Incoming Freshmen

Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2023 11:45 am
by PALax11
HopFan16 wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 9:55 am Hunter Chauvette scored 4 times as a starting middie against Richmond this fall and twice against Lehigh. Shot is possibly better than advertised. He was #21 and a 4-star this summer...would be surprised if he's not a 5-star and closer to the top 10 now.

Keep in mind IL historically takes into account a player's projected role in the spring. So a kid could be the most talented player in the country but if IL doesn't think he'll get much playing time, that might ding him in the rankings. They edge toward guys who are likely to start.
We just drafted him at pick 13 in the fantasy draft.

Re: IL Class of 2023 Power 100 Incoming Freshmen

Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2023 11:46 am
by ohmilax34
Farfromgeneva wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 11:26 am
ohmilax34 wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 10:52 am As someone who hasn't drafted yet, because I won the whole thing last season, I'm not happy about the discussion of undrafted players. But, there's nothing I can do about it.
That rule applies to the fantasy thread. Could travel with team members but I see only drafted guys mentioned by participants.

And nobody is going to have sympathy the way you beat a poor child in the semi and also used multiple UMAss pieces that week who happened to end one of his two favorite college teams (Hobart, Pton near second) seasons in the real world. It’s like you were trying to one up the Grinch who stole Christmas and now begging for sympathy?

;). (Having fun, we never should’ve beaten Hip and Knee the week prior)
Definitely not expecting sympathy after two undefeated seasons in a row. 8-)

Re: IL Class of 2023 Power 100 Incoming Freshmen

Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2023 11:52 am
by 10stone5
Powellfan22 wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 9:16 am If IL takes fall ball performances into account (I think they do based on when they release the list), I think Kabiri (3 - Princeton) and Duffy (4 - UNC) will leapfrog Millon (1 - UVA). Kabiri put up a ton of points against Notre Dame, as did Duffy against Ohio State. Lots of hype already surrounding Duffy it feels like. Millon was pretty quiet in UVA's scrimmages I believe. Based on IL fall ball reports I also wouldn't be surprised to see Lehman (7 - Penn State), Christmas (10 - Duke) Deere (18 - Syracuse) and Colin Burns (19 - Princeton) rise up the rankings.

Current List top 50 is here: https://www.insidelacrosse.com/recruiti ... inglist/12
I got Deere as a top 5,
big addition for Gait.

Re: IL Class of 2023 Power 100 Incoming Freshmen

Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2023 1:18 pm
by coda
Farfromgeneva wrote: Wed Nov 15, 2023 9:09 pm
Matnum PI wrote: Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:21 pm FWIW, these are the FanLax Fantasy League draft picks thus far. Draft only started on Sunday so many more coming. The drafted upperclassmen (Jack Boyden, Stephen Avery, etc.) are players who weren't drafted last season and or earlier. For obvious reasons, most of the draftees are freshman.

Pick # Team -
1 1.1 Maddog McCabe Millon FR A UVA
2 1.2 GreenieLax Jack Boyden SR A UVA
3 1.3 girlsdoitbetter Nate Kabiri FR A Princeton
4 1.4 ChopSticks Stephen Avery SR M Denver
5 1.5 Matnum PI Aidan McLane JR A/M Brown
6 1.6 GenghiskhanBluejay Owen Duffy FR A UNC
7 1.7 DU-Fan Kyle Lehman FR A PSU
8 1.8 Lax1 Colin Burns FR A Princeton
9 1.9 OCanada Brock Behrman FR A Notre Dame
10 1,10 NJLaxx11 Leo Hoffman FR M UPenn
11 1.11 NC Lax Willem Firth FR A Cornell
12 1.12 FCALax
13 1.13 PA Talk
14 1.14 CalLaxDad
15 1.15 UK Lax
16 1.16 harrisoncoburn
17 1.17 Farfromgeneva
18 1.18 Keoni007
19 1.19 Typical Lax Dad
20 1,20 ohmilax34
21 2.1 ohmilax34
Personally think Kabiri and Hoffman should’ve been higher. (And Avery over McLane but that’s more position driven and not FR)

That should read Farfromgenevajr as well. He ate up competition last season like he was brushing dirt off his shoulder.
Hoffman as a Senior was not he Hoffman people saw as a Junior. He has some injuries going on, not sure the extent of them. Based on his senior year, I would not have him in the top 10. Based on his potential, he is a top 10 guy. Delgado was their best offensive player last year and it was not particularly close in the games I saw

Re: IL Class of 2023 Power 100 Incoming Freshmen

Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2023 1:29 pm
by TrooperJT420
Just released on IL.com. Duffy is where he belongs. Couple former 5 stars dropped out and some others moved up. The full top 100 is on the IL site now.

5-Star Recruits in the Power 100

1. Owen Duffy | A | North Carolina | St. Anthony's (N.Y.)
2. McCabe Millon | A | Virginia | McDonogh (Md.)
3. Nate Kabiri | A | Princeton | Georgetown Prep (Md.)
4. Benn Johnston | M | Duke | Avon Old Farms (Conn.)
5. Leo Hoffman | M | Penn | Brunswick (Conn.)
6. AJ Marsh | D | Navy | McDonogh (Md.)
7. Matt Tully | G | Cornell | Noble & Greenough (Mass.)
8. Anderson Moore | G | Georgetown | Briarwood Christian (Ala.)
9. Willem Firth | A | Cornell | Hill Academy (Ont.)
10. Tomas Delgado | M | Duke | Brunswick (Conn.)
11. Quintan Kilrain | D | Johns Hopkins | Lawrenceville (N.J.)
12. Hunter Spiess | D | Princeton | Brunswick (Conn.)
13. Ty Banks | D | Georgetown | Western Reserve (Ohio)
14. Caleb Fyock | G | Ohio State | St. John's (D.C.)
15. Brady Wambach | FO | North Carolina | Salisbury (Conn.)
16. Mac Christmas | LSM | Duke | McDonogh (Md.)
17. Trey Deere | A | Syracuse | Salisbury (Conn.)
18. AJ Nikolic | M | Cornell | Malvern Prep (Pa.)
19. Kyle Lehman | A | Penn State | Wissahickon (Pa.)
20. Colin Burns | A | Princeton | Georgetown Prep (Md.)
21. Sean Creter | FO | Maryland | Hunterdon Central (N.J.)