Atlantic 10 2024

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10stone5
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Re: Atlantic 10 2024

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Cavs are in big trouble, Hawks will be going to UVA.

I just don't see UVA as being anywhere near that physical.
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Re: Atlantic 10 2024

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This one will be interesting. I can both see it and can’t see it herring at the same time. Can’t explain it but envision both as plausible and then “nah that won’t happen”. But I do think experiences in the playoffs matters and if it’s close we will see. They needed a long time to get over the jump
In the NEC winning an umber of reg season titles to get beat by Bart or Bryant every year until the last of the NEC. Hope this is different for Wray.
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Re: Atlantic 10 2024

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Hawks, some serious turnover next year, Wray has got his work cut out for him,
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2024 Roster
# Player Pos Yr Hometown G A P
8 Levi Anderson M Sr Calgary, AB 33 24 57
4 Matt Bohmer A Sr Charlotte, NC 37 13 50
62 Carter Page A Sr Peterborough, ON 43 6 49
63 Toron Eccleston A Sr Calgary, AB 24 9 33
52 Colin Reich M Sr Charleston, SC 11 8 19
7 Gavin Tygh FO Sr Malvern, PA 1 2 3
15 Gavin Harmon A Sr Frisco, TX 2 1 3
20 William King A Sr Columbia, SC 2 1 3
58 Liam Ferris M Sr Toronto, ON 2 1 3
45 Patrick Clemens D Sr Springfield, PA 0 2 2
51 Alex Keener LSM Sr Bethpage, NY 2 0 2
3 Richie LaCalandra A Sr Port Jefferson Station, NY 0 0 0
50 Gunnar Bogorowski M Sr Glenside, PA 0 0 0
oldbartman
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Re: Atlantic 10 2024

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10stone5 wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 10:59 pm Hawks, some serious turnover next year, Wray has got his work cut out for him,
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2024 Roster
# Player Pos Yr Hometown G A P
8 Levi Anderson M Sr Calgary, AB 33 24 57
4 Matt Bohmer A Sr Charlotte, NC 37 13 50
62 Carter Page A Sr Peterborough, ON 43 6 49
63 Toron Eccleston A Sr Calgary, AB 24 9 33
52 Colin Reich M Sr Charleston, SC 11 8 19
7 Gavin Tygh FO Sr Malvern, PA 1 2 3
15 Gavin Harmon A Sr Frisco, TX 2 1 3
20 William King A Sr Columbia, SC 2 1 3
58 Liam Ferris M Sr Toronto, ON 2 1 3
45 Patrick Clemens D Sr Springfield, PA 0 2 2
51 Alex Keener LSM Sr Bethpage, NY 2 0 2
3 Richie LaCalandra A Sr Port Jefferson Station, NY 0 0 0
50 Gunnar Bogorowski M Sr Glenside, PA 0 0 0
LaCalandra will be back for the'25 season. He did not play in any games this season due to an NCAA ruling, but should be good to go next year.
Henpecked
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Re: Atlantic 10 2024

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oldbartman wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 11:15 pm
10stone5 wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 10:59 pm Hawks, some serious turnover next year, Wray has got his work cut out for him,
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2024 Roster
# Player Pos Yr Hometown G A P
8 Levi Anderson M Sr Calgary, AB 33 24 57
4 Matt Bohmer A Sr Charlotte, NC 37 13 50
62 Carter Page A Sr Peterborough, ON 43 6 49
63 Toron Eccleston A Sr Calgary, AB 24 9 33
52 Colin Reich M Sr Charleston, SC 11 8 19
7 Gavin Tygh FO Sr Malvern, PA 1 2 3
15 Gavin Harmon A Sr Frisco, TX 2 1 3
20 William King A Sr Columbia, SC 2 1 3
58 Liam Ferris M Sr Toronto, ON 2 1 3
45 Patrick Clemens D Sr Springfield, PA 0 2 2
51 Alex Keener LSM Sr Bethpage, NY 2 0 2
3 Richie LaCalandra A Sr Port Jefferson Station, NY 0 0 0
50 Gunnar Bogorowski M Sr Glenside, PA 0 0 0
LaCalandra will be back for the'25 season. He did not play in any games this season due to an NCAA ruling, but should be good to go next year.
I would love to know the story about LaCalandra. Graduated from Comsowogue in 2019. Played at LIU for three years (20, 21 and 22). Initially transfered to St. Joes for '23. Switched that decision and was on the Ohio State roster for '23 after playing fall ball with the Buckeyes. Then transfers back to St. Joe's for '24 where he is deemed ineligible to play after the fall season. And now is scheduled to play for St. Joes in '25. And someone tells me he still has two years of eligibility left? Did I get that right? SMH.
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Re: Atlantic 10 2024

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Not exactly the course we used to take through a career! I guess you could say 2020 doesn’t count due to COVID and he only played 4 games in 2023 for OSU so could have taken that as a redshirt which would mean he has only played 2 seasons and has 2 left. Even excluding 2020 though, the old 4 seasons in 5 years rule would mean that despite those 2 theoretical years left 2025 would be his last year but who the hell knows these days. I think everyone is sick of 24 and 25 year olds being on college rosters and I’m not sure how much of an asset to a locker room a player is who wanders school to school, regardless of talent.
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Re: Atlantic 10 2024

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Henpecked wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 8:23 am
oldbartman wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 11:15 pm
10stone5 wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 10:59 pm Hawks, some serious turnover next year, Wray has got his work cut out for him,
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2024 Roster
# Player Pos Yr Hometown G A P
8 Levi Anderson M Sr Calgary, AB 33 24 57
4 Matt Bohmer A Sr Charlotte, NC 37 13 50
62 Carter Page A Sr Peterborough, ON 43 6 49
63 Toron Eccleston A Sr Calgary, AB 24 9 33
52 Colin Reich M Sr Charleston, SC 11 8 19
7 Gavin Tygh FO Sr Malvern, PA 1 2 3
15 Gavin Harmon A Sr Frisco, TX 2 1 3
20 William King A Sr Columbia, SC 2 1 3
58 Liam Ferris M Sr Toronto, ON 2 1 3
45 Patrick Clemens D Sr Springfield, PA 0 2 2
51 Alex Keener LSM Sr Bethpage, NY 2 0 2
3 Richie LaCalandra A Sr Port Jefferson Station, NY 0 0 0
50 Gunnar Bogorowski M Sr Glenside, PA 0 0 0
LaCalandra will be back for the'25 season. He did not play in any games this season due to an NCAA ruling, but should be good to go next year.
I would love to know the story about LaCalandra. Graduated from Comsowogue in 2019. Played at LIU for three years (20, 21 and 22). Initially transfered to St. Joes for '23. Switched that decision and was on the Ohio State roster for '23 after playing fall ball with the Buckeyes. Then transfers back to St. Joe's for '24 where he is deemed ineligible to play after the fall season. And now is scheduled to play for St. Joes in '25. And someone tells me he still has two years of eligibility left? Did I get that right? SMH.
2020- Covid year (LIU)
2021- Redshirt fresh (LIU)
2022- redshirt soph (LIU)
2023- redshirt junior (OSU) - withdrew after 4 games at OSU to preserve that years eligibility (playing under 25% of games in season).
2024- redshirt junior x2 (SJU) - 4 year school to 4 year school to 4 year school rule.. had to sit out this year.
2025-Redshirt senior year (SJU). Last year of eligibility.
oldbartman
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Re: Atlantic 10 2024

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GaitsRightHand wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 11:16 am
Henpecked wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 8:23 am
oldbartman wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 11:15 pm
10stone5 wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 10:59 pm Hawks, some serious turnover next year, Wray has got his work cut out for him,
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2024 Roster
# Player Pos Yr Hometown G A P
8 Levi Anderson M Sr Calgary, AB 33 24 57
4 Matt Bohmer A Sr Charlotte, NC 37 13 50
62 Carter Page A Sr Peterborough, ON 43 6 49
63 Toron Eccleston A Sr Calgary, AB 24 9 33
52 Colin Reich M Sr Charleston, SC 11 8 19
7 Gavin Tygh FO Sr Malvern, PA 1 2 3
15 Gavin Harmon A Sr Frisco, TX 2 1 3
20 William King A Sr Columbia, SC 2 1 3
58 Liam Ferris M Sr Toronto, ON 2 1 3
45 Patrick Clemens D Sr Springfield, PA 0 2 2
51 Alex Keener LSM Sr Bethpage, NY 2 0 2
3 Richie LaCalandra A Sr Port Jefferson Station, NY 0 0 0
50 Gunnar Bogorowski M Sr Glenside, PA 0 0 0
LaCalandra will be back for the'25 season. He did not play in any games this season due to an NCAA ruling, but should be good to go next year.
I would love to know the story about LaCalandra. Graduated from Comsowogue in 2019. Played at LIU for three years (20, 21 and 22). Initially transfered to St. Joes for '23. Switched that decision and was on the Ohio State roster for '23 after playing fall ball with the Buckeyes. Then transfers back to St. Joe's for '24 where he is deemed ineligible to play after the fall season. And now is scheduled to play for St. Joes in '25. And someone tells me he still has two years of eligibility left? Did I get that right? SMH.
2020- Covid year (LIU)
2021- Redshirt fresh (LIU)
2022- redshirt soph (LIU)
2023- redshirt junior (OSU) - withdrew after 4 games at OSU to preserve that years eligibility (playing under 25% of games in season).
2024- redshirt junior x2 (SJU) - 4 year school to 4 year school to 4 year school rule.. had to sit out this year.
2025-Redshirt senior year (SJU). Last year of eligibility.
LaCalandra got a redshirt for '21 & '22?? He played against my Statesmen both years. In '22 the game was played in mid April. Did he only play in 3 or 4 games those seasons? I don't think so as he he was the NEC OPY both years if recall correctly.
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Re: Atlantic 10 2024

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oldbartman wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 12:43 pm
GaitsRightHand wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 11:16 am
Henpecked wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 8:23 am
oldbartman wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 11:15 pm
10stone5 wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 10:59 pm Hawks, some serious turnover next year, Wray has got his work cut out for him,
-----------------
2024 Roster
# Player Pos Yr Hometown G A P
8 Levi Anderson M Sr Calgary, AB 33 24 57
4 Matt Bohmer A Sr Charlotte, NC 37 13 50
62 Carter Page A Sr Peterborough, ON 43 6 49
63 Toron Eccleston A Sr Calgary, AB 24 9 33
52 Colin Reich M Sr Charleston, SC 11 8 19
7 Gavin Tygh FO Sr Malvern, PA 1 2 3
15 Gavin Harmon A Sr Frisco, TX 2 1 3
20 William King A Sr Columbia, SC 2 1 3
58 Liam Ferris M Sr Toronto, ON 2 1 3
45 Patrick Clemens D Sr Springfield, PA 0 2 2
51 Alex Keener LSM Sr Bethpage, NY 2 0 2
3 Richie LaCalandra A Sr Port Jefferson Station, NY 0 0 0
50 Gunnar Bogorowski M Sr Glenside, PA 0 0 0
LaCalandra will be back for the'25 season. He did not play in any games this season due to an NCAA ruling, but should be good to go next year.
I would love to know the story about LaCalandra. Graduated from Comsowogue in 2019. Played at LIU for three years (20, 21 and 22). Initially transfered to St. Joes for '23. Switched that decision and was on the Ohio State roster for '23 after playing fall ball with the Buckeyes. Then transfers back to St. Joe's for '24 where he is deemed ineligible to play after the fall season. And now is scheduled to play for St. Joes in '25. And someone tells me he still has two years of eligibility left? Did I get that right? SMH.
2020- Covid year (LIU)
2021- Redshirt fresh (LIU)
2022- redshirt soph (LIU)
2023- redshirt junior (OSU) - withdrew after 4 games at OSU to preserve that years eligibility (playing under 25% of games in season).
2024- redshirt junior x2 (SJU) - 4 year school to 4 year school to 4 year school rule.. had to sit out this year.
2025-Redshirt senior year (SJU). Last year of eligibility.
LaCalandra got a redshirt for '21 & '22?? He played against my Statesmen both years. In '22 the game was played in mid April. Did he only play in 3 or 4 games those seasons? I don't think so as he he was the NEC OPY both years if recall correctly.
2020 was his LEGIT freshman year, but covid... So, in 2021 he was a redshirt freshman. 2022 he was a redshirt sophomore. 2023/2024 was technically a "redshirt junior." Next year he'll be a 6th year / redshirt senior.
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Re: Atlantic 10 2024

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Sorry, brain fart on my end.... I guess the freshman on the St. Joe's '25 team will refer to LaCalandra as "Grandpa"
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Re: Atlantic 10 2024

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oldbartman wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 1:01 pm Sorry, brain fart on my end.... I guess the freshman on the St. Joe's '25 team will refer to LaCalandra as "Grandpa"
No problem! LOL sounds about right. He'll be able to get all the boys into some rentals.
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Re: Atlantic 10 2024

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Well then,

that'll definitely alleviate some of Wray's player turnover issues,
Hawks also have two mammoth offensive players coming in the fall.
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Re: Atlantic 10 2024

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GaitsRightHand wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 11:16 am
Henpecked wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 8:23 am
oldbartman wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 11:15 pm
10stone5 wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 10:59 pm Hawks, some serious turnover next year, Wray has got his work cut out for him,
-----------------
2024 Roster
# Player Pos Yr Hometown G A P
8 Levi Anderson M Sr Calgary, AB 33 24 57
4 Matt Bohmer A Sr Charlotte, NC 37 13 50
62 Carter Page A Sr Peterborough, ON 43 6 49
63 Toron Eccleston A Sr Calgary, AB 24 9 33
52 Colin Reich M Sr Charleston, SC 11 8 19
7 Gavin Tygh FO Sr Malvern, PA 1 2 3
15 Gavin Harmon A Sr Frisco, TX 2 1 3
20 William King A Sr Columbia, SC 2 1 3
58 Liam Ferris M Sr Toronto, ON 2 1 3
45 Patrick Clemens D Sr Springfield, PA 0 2 2
51 Alex Keener LSM Sr Bethpage, NY 2 0 2
3 Richie LaCalandra A Sr Port Jefferson Station, NY 0 0 0
50 Gunnar Bogorowski M Sr Glenside, PA 0 0 0
LaCalandra will be back for the'25 season. He did not play in any games this season due to an NCAA ruling, but should be good to go next year.
I would love to know the story about LaCalandra. Graduated from Comsowogue in 2019. Played at LIU for three years (20, 21 and 22). Initially transfered to St. Joes for '23. Switched that decision and was on the Ohio State roster for '23 after playing fall ball with the Buckeyes. Then transfers back to St. Joe's for '24 where he is deemed ineligible to play after the fall season. And now is scheduled to play for St. Joes in '25. And someone tells me he still has two years of eligibility left? Did I get that right? SMH.
2020- Covid year (LIU)
2021- Redshirt fresh (LIU)
2022- redshirt soph (LIU)
2023- redshirt junior (OSU) - withdrew after 4 games at OSU to preserve that years eligibility (playing under 25% of games in season).
2024- redshirt junior x2 (SJU) - 4 year school to 4 year school to 4 year school rule.. had to sit out this year.
2025-Redshirt senior year (SJU). Last year of eligibility.
This is correct
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Re: Atlantic 10 2024

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So with all of that he will have 3 years of full seasons and 1 year of 4 games?
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Re: Atlantic 10 2024

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pcowlax wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 3:19 pm So with all of that he will have 3 years of full seasons and 1 year of 4 games?
Yes. You cannot transfer from a 4 year school to another 4 year and then to another 4 year *UNLESS YOU COMPLETE A DEGREE*
Ex/ JT Roselle played 4 years at Marist (got degree), 1 year at UNC (got degree) and 2024 at Hofstra (got degree). 3 schools.

LaCalandra didn't finish his undergrad yet, and is on his 3rd school. That's the difference. Also, if you play less than 30% of a team's schedule you can redshirt that year. 2023 he played 25% of games at OSU and then withdrew. Due to the 4 year rule he had to sit out this year. If he was eligible this year, he technically would've been a Redshirt Jr. (even though thats what he was listed as at OSU)
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Re: Atlantic 10 2024

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GaitsRightHand wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 3:27 pm
pcowlax wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 3:19 pm So with all of that he will have 3 years of full seasons and 1 year of 4 games?
Yes. You cannot transfer from a 4 year school to another 4 year and then to another 4 year *UNLESS YOU COMPLETE A DEGREE*
Ex/ JT Roselle played 4 years at Marist (got degree), 1 year at UNC (got degree) and 2024 at Hofstra (got degree). 3 schools.

LaCalandra didn't finish his undergrad yet, and is on his 3rd school. That's the difference. Also, if you play less than 30% of a team's schedule you can redshirt that year. 2023 he played 25% of games at OSU and then withdrew. Due to the 4 year rule he had to sit out this year. If he was eligible this year, he technically would've been a Redshirt Jr. (even though thats what he was listed as at OSU)
Got it. Based on that though he could have played the full year in 2023 and still would only have one more year of eligibility. Because of the second transfer it didn't matter whether he played 4 games or the full season.
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Re: Atlantic 10 2024

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10stone5 wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 10:59 pm Hawks, some serious turnover next year, Wray has got his work cut out for him,
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2024 Roster
# Player Pos Yr Hometown G A P
8 Levi Anderson M Sr Calgary, AB 33 24 57
4 Matt Bohmer A Sr Charlotte, NC 37 13 50
62 Carter Page A Sr Peterborough, ON 43 6 49
63 Toron Eccleston A Sr Calgary, AB 24 9 33
52 Colin Reich M Sr Charleston, SC 11 8 19
7 Gavin Tygh FO Sr Malvern, PA 1 2 3
15 Gavin Harmon A Sr Frisco, TX 2 1 3
20 William King A Sr Columbia, SC 2 1 3
58 Liam Ferris M Sr Toronto, ON 2 1 3
45 Patrick Clemens D Sr Springfield, PA 0 2 2
51 Alex Keener LSM Sr Bethpage, NY 2 0 2
3 Richie LaCalandra A Sr Port Jefferson Station, NY 0 0 0
50 Gunnar Bogorowski M Sr Glenside, PA 0 0 0
They loaded up for the last two years. You hope to bank and build on the wins, this is the next phase for them to see. But Tygh was a plug for Cole who was helpful meaning Wray didn't have solution for the likely 10-15% drop off in FO wins. By year end Tygh was a close enough substitute for Cole. But they've got goalie set for a while.
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That ain't even the half what they might do
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See Jesus, Judas; Caesar, Brutus
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Re: Atlantic 10 2024

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pcowlax wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 8:37 am Not exactly the course we used to take through a career! I guess you could say 2020 doesn’t count due to COVID and he only played 4 games in 2023 for OSU so could have taken that as a redshirt which would mean he has only played 2 seasons and has 2 left. Even excluding 2020 though, the old 4 seasons in 5 years rule would mean that despite those 2 theoretical years left 2025 would be his last year but who the hell knows these days. I think everyone is sick of 24 and 25 year olds being on college rosters and I’m not sure how much of an asset to a locker room a player is who wanders school to school, regardless of talent.
Its a flat out joke. THen they end up on a lacrosse club program for a career.
Same sword they knight you they gon' good night you with
Thats' only half if they like you
That ain't even the half what they might do
Don't believe me, ask Michael
See Martin, Malcolm
See Jesus, Judas; Caesar, Brutus
See success is like suicide
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Re: Atlantic 10 2024

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Richmond Football yesterday announced its move to the Patriot League for Football. I wonder if a move to all Patriot League sports is in its future? Doubtful, but something to consider I guess.
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Re: Atlantic 10 2024

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Farfromgeneva wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 4:03 pm
10stone5 wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 10:59 pm Hawks, some serious turnover next year, Wray has got his work cut out for him,
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2024 Roster
# Player Pos Yr Hometown G A P
8 Levi Anderson M Sr Calgary, AB 33 24 57
4 Matt Bohmer A Sr Charlotte, NC 37 13 50
62 Carter Page A Sr Peterborough, ON 43 6 49
63 Toron Eccleston A Sr Calgary, AB 24 9 33
52 Colin Reich M Sr Charleston, SC 11 8 19
7 Gavin Tygh FO Sr Malvern, PA 1 2 3
15 Gavin Harmon A Sr Frisco, TX 2 1 3
20 William King A Sr Columbia, SC 2 1 3
58 Liam Ferris M Sr Toronto, ON 2 1 3
45 Patrick Clemens D Sr Springfield, PA 0 2 2
51 Alex Keener LSM Sr Bethpage, NY 2 0 2
3 Richie LaCalandra A Sr Port Jefferson Station, NY 0 0 0
50 Gunnar Bogorowski M Sr Glenside, PA 0 0 0
They loaded up for the last two years. You hope to bank and build on the wins, this is the next phase for them to see. But Tygh was a plug for Cole who was helpful meaning Wray didn't have solution for the likely 10-15% drop off in FO wins. By year end Tygh was a close enough substitute for Cole. But they've got goalie set for a while.
I wouldn’t bet on a big dropoff. A lot back on defense including the DPOY in A-10. Offense will retool.
Most importantly Taylor Wray is back. Winner
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