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Cletus wrote: ↑Fri Apr 02, 2021 1:44 pm Add on watch list released:

https://www.uslaxmagazine.com/college/w ... watch-list

Cletus wrote: ↑Sat Apr 03, 2021 5:25 am

Cletus wrote: ↑Fri Apr 02, 2021 1:44 pm Add on watch list released:

https://www.uslaxmagazine.com/college/w ... watch-list

I'm baffled that Madison Ahern will go the 2021 season being passed over for this list. Not the first time the Tewaaraton committee has made bonehead choices or oversights.

seacoaster wrote: ↑Sat Apr 03, 2021 6:08 am Why not Howe or Wolak too?

Cletus wrote: ↑Sat Apr 03, 2021 6:19 am

seacoaster wrote: ↑Sat Apr 03, 2021 6:08 am Why not Howe or Wolak too?

Right. I hadn't even considered Howe but she's another excellent player who got passed over. I don't know the Golden Domers as well as you so I can't comment on Wolak.

seacoaster wrote: ↑Sat Apr 03, 2021 6:31 am Not a team I follow closely.

seacoaster wrote: ↑Sat Apr 03, 2021 6:08 am

Cletus wrote: ↑Sat Apr 03, 2021 5:25 am

Cletus wrote: ↑Fri Apr 02, 2021 1:44 pm Add on watch list released:

https://www.uslaxmagazine.com/college/w ... watch-list

I'm baffled that Madison Ahern will go the 2021 season being passed over for this list. Not the first time the Tewaaraton committee has made bonehead choices or oversights.

It's kind of a strange list. I do wonder how it gets compiled. But it seems like she got bumped by the five other UND names (Choma, Aldave, Lynch, Deehan and Roe). Why not Howe or Wolak too? She's a very good player, ad will get her recognition.

Brownlax wrote: ↑Sat Apr 03, 2021 3:26 pm

seacoaster wrote: ↑Sat Apr 03, 2021 6:08 am

Cletus wrote: ↑Sat Apr 03, 2021 5:25 am

Cletus wrote: ↑Fri Apr 02, 2021 1:44 pm Add on watch list released:

https://www.uslaxmagazine.com/college/w ... watch-list

I'm baffled that Madison Ahern will go the 2021 season being passed over for this list. Not the first time the Tewaaraton committee has made bonehead choices or oversights.

It's kind of a strange list. I do wonder how it gets compiled. But it seems like she got bumped by the five other UND names (Choma, Aldave, Lynch, Deehan and Roe). Why not Howe or Wolak too? She's a very good player, ad will get her recognition.

Prior to today's ND game, Ahearn had 20 points in 6 games. Not sure those are even close to Tewaarton numbers. Howe has 20 pts in 7 games. They both had 1 point today versus UVA.

seacoaster wrote: ↑Sat Apr 03, 2021 4:12 pm

Brownlax wrote: ↑Sat Apr 03, 2021 3:26 pm

seacoaster wrote: ↑Sat Apr 03, 2021 6:08 am

Cletus wrote: ↑Sat Apr 03, 2021 5:25 am

Cletus wrote: ↑Fri Apr 02, 2021 1:44 pm Add on watch list released:

https://www.uslaxmagazine.com/college/w ... watch-list

I'm baffled that Madison Ahern will go the 2021 season being passed over for this list. Not the first time the Tewaaraton committee has made bonehead choices or oversights.

It's kind of a strange list. I do wonder how it gets compiled. But it seems like she got bumped by the five other UND names (Choma, Aldave, Lynch, Deehan and Roe). Why not Howe or Wolak too? She's a very good player, ad will get her recognition.

Prior to today's ND game, Ahearn had 20 points in 6 games. Not sure those are even close to Tewaarton numbers. Howe has 20 pts in 7 games. They both had 1 point today versus UVA.

My comment was really on the list, which I think is dumb. If we are talking about the best or most valuable player in women's lacrosse, the list is maybe 10 women. The rest, to paraphrase Ezra Pound, is dross.

Brownlax wrote: ↑Sat Apr 03, 2021 3:26 pm Prior to today's ND game, Ahearn had 20 points in 6 games. Not sure those are even close to Tewaarton numbers. Howe has 20 pts in 7 games. They both had 1 point today versus UVA.

Can Opener wrote: ↑Sun Apr 18, 2021 4:58 pm Probably fair to say the Tewaaraton is now a 4-horse race among attackers Ortega, Scane and North, plus goalie Taylor Moreno. It's rare for a goalie to win, so Moreno probably needs to have a combination of UNC winning the natty, posting a great tournament personally, and Ortega having a good, but not great tournament performance. When Megan Taylor won as a goalie in 2019, UMd won the national championship and she finished the year with a .551 season save percentage and an even .500 in the tournament. The scoring was remarkably balanced for the Terps that year with 6 women netting between 44 and 59 goals. I imagine they splintered the votes, opening the door for Taylor who fully deserved the award. Moreno, BTW, is running ahead of Taylor with a .584 save percentage.

Here are a few stats that I will try to update weekly. Yes, I know there is more to the award than stats, but there is a huge correlation historically among scoring stats, your team making it to at least the final four, and winning the Tewaaraton. Some will say it's unfair to include DC stats, but historically that has been another big correlation point for Tewy winners. The last 5 non-goalie winners have averaged 130 DCs for the season.

If I had to rank who had the best week for improving their chances, I would put them in the order of North, Scane, Moreno & Ortega. In addition to my BC bias, I would give North the nod over Scane because she helped her team to 2 unexpected wins and dominated on draw controls, while Scane needed 15 shots to score 6 goals. Feel free to weigh in with your own views of who had the best week!

North
4G 1A 11DC vs ND game 1
6G 1A 10DC vs ND game 2
57G 8A 110DC .626 SH% season (12 games)

Scane
6G 1A 2DC vs Mich
70G 18A 8DC .522 SH% season (11 games)

Moreno
6GA 4SV vs UVA game 1
2GA 4SV vs UVA game 2
.584 SV% season

Ortega
6 G 2A 0DC vs UVA game 1
2G 0A 0DC vs UVA game 2
61G 19A 0DC .709 SH% season (14 games)

Side note: It's pretty cool for the future of the game that 2 of the 3 best attackers in the country are from Michigan and Texas.

Laxfan500 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 18, 2021 5:08 pm

Can Opener wrote: ↑Sun Apr 18, 2021 4:58 pm Probably fair to say the Tewaaraton is now a 4-horse race among attackers Ortega, Scane and North, plus goalie Taylor Moreno. It's rare for a goalie to win, so Moreno probably needs to have a combination of UNC winning the natty, posting a great tournament personally, and Ortega having a good, but not great tournament performance. When Megan Taylor won as a goalie in 2019, UMd won the national championship and she finished the year with a .551 season save percentage and an even .500 in the tournament. The scoring was remarkably balanced for the Terps that year with 6 women netting between 44 and 59 goals. I imagine they splintered the votes, opening the door for Taylor who fully deserved the award. Moreno, BTW, is running ahead of Taylor with a .584 save percentage.

Here are a few stats that I will try to update weekly. Yes, I know there is more to the award than stats, but there is a huge correlation historically among scoring stats, your team making it to at least the final four, and winning the Tewaaraton. Some will say it's unfair to include DC stats, but historically that has been another big correlation point for Tewy winners. The last 5 non-goalie winners have averaged 130 DCs for the season.

If I had to rank who had the best week for improving their chances, I would put them in the order of North, Scane, Moreno & Ortega. In addition to my BC bias, I would give North the nod over Scane because she helped her team to 2 unexpected wins and dominated on draw controls, while Scane needed 15 shots to score 6 goals. Feel free to weigh in with your own views of who had the best week!

North
4G 1A 11DC vs ND game 1
6G 1A 10DC vs ND game 2
57G 8A 110DC .626 SH% season (12 games)

Scane
6G 1A 2DC vs Mich
70G 18A 8DC .522 SH% season (11 games)

Moreno
6GA 4SV vs UVA game 1
2GA 4SV vs UVA game 2
.584 SV% season

Ortega
6 G 2A 0DC vs UVA game 1
2G 0A 0DC vs UVA game 2
61G 19A 0DC .709 SH% season (14 games)

Side note: It's pretty cool for the future of the game that 2 of the 3 best attackers in the country are from Michigan and Texas.

Right now as you said...it’s going to depend on who makes final 4 and then finals ...I noticed you didn’t put Ally Kennedy in there - not that I feel she deserves it but the “pundits” like her for Tew...I’m sure there are better middies who play in much tougher conferences and defenders too than Kennedy.
“Side note ...Ortega came out of game 15 minutes into first half after getting hit in face and then striking ground. (No call) just an FYI.”

DMac wrote: ↑Sun Apr 18, 2021 5:35 pm If stats don't enter the picture (and they shouldn't play in as big as they do, there are too many variables that can affect them) who would you say is the fiercest, most focused and determined, talented and unstoppable player on that list? The eyes should more determine the award than stats but it is what it is.

DMac wrote: ↑Sun Apr 18, 2021 5:35 pm If stats don't enter the picture (and they shouldn't play in as big as they do, there are too many variables that can affect them) who would you say is the fiercest, most focused and determined, talented and unstoppable player on that list? The eyes should more determine the award than stats but it is what it is.