2021 Rankings

[StuckinD2]

https://www.uslaxmagazine.com/college/m ... son-top-20

US Lax Mag releases preseason poles this morning. Some interesting picks here..
Limestone at #9 my guess is because of their losses on the offensive end
Florida Southern coming in at #17 after going 3-4 in shortened season
Mesa at #19 after going undefeated

[WhiteCarrera]

IMHO - preseason polls often hinge on who has the most dedicated SID.
Another surprise is that 13 schools are from the south region. Am I counting correctly?

[Pitt12]

All the pressure is on Tampa with the #1 Ranking. They look good on paper but don’t they always?

[Old&InTheWay]

How does the preseason polls get calculate?

[JBFortunato]

Florida Tech seems to have picked up a huge grad transfer in Josh Vetter from Roanoke. I saw him play Peter Pitroff - then of Denison, now at Providence - really tough last season. I think he’s capable of locking down anyone in the SSC. No idea how the rest of the team looks.

[LaxManiax]

Looks like Saint Leo feel off quick.....

[10stone5]

Florida Tech seems to have picked up a huge grad transfer in Josh Vetter from Roanoke. I saw him play Peter Pitroff - then of Denison, now at Providence - really tough last season. I think he’s capable of locking down anyone in the SSC. No idea how the rest of the team looks.

They’ve got Chandler Hake, one of the top scorers in
the PA preps/high schools,

https://www.maxpreps.com/m/athlete/chan ... /stats.htm

And they almost got this guy, another phenomenal
Central PA scoring machine,

https://www.insidelacrosse.com/recruiting/profile/6184

But Caporuscio switched his commit to Le Moyne.

[Turbo]

Anyone want go give odds on whether Limestone University will finish the season with a higher national ranking than their preseason #9?[/size]

[Turbo]

The 2021 Coaches preseason poll (attached) is out.

[RedFromMI]

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Team		Rank	Record	Votes(FP)	Last Week
Le Moyne 	 1 	0-0 	478 (22) 	 1
Tampa 		 2 	0-0 	449 (1) 	 2
Mercyhurst 	 3 	0-0 	429 		 3
Seton Hill 	 4 	0-0 	392 		 5
Limestone 	 5 	1-0 	373 (1) 	 6
Adelphi 	 6 	0-0 	350 		 7
Mercy 		 7 	0-0 	290 		 9
Lenoir-Rhyne 	 8 	1-0* 	255 		 8
Indianapolis 	 9 	1-0 	222 		11
Pace 		10 	0-0 	205 		12
Lindenwood 	11 	2-0 	203 		14
Queens (NC) 	12 	0-0 	202 		13
Belmont Abbey 	13 	0-1 	194 		 4
Wingate 	13 	1-0 	194 		15
Mount Olive 	15 	1-0 	185 		10
Catawba 	16 	1-0 	118 		N/R
Rockhurst 	17 	1-0 	102 		16
Colorado Mesa 	18 	0-0 	92 		17
Saint Anselm 	19 	0-0 	73 		18
FSC 		20 	0-0 	62 		19

Also receiving votes: Frostburg State (25), Bentley (20), Chestnut Hill (18), Saint Leo (16), Florida Tech (13), Rollins (12), Assumption (11), Montevallo (11), Lynn (8), Lake Erie (8), Molloy (6), Saint Rose (6), and Tusculum (1).

N/R = Not Ranked

*LR played an exhibition with DI Mercer that does NOT officially count as a DII loss, so I have corrected the 1-1 record that is in the USILA release...

[RedFromMI]

22-Feb-21

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Rank	School (FP) 	Total 	Record 	Last Week 	
    1 LeMoyne (22)  	497 	0-0 	 1 	
    2 Tampa (3) 	473 	0-0 	 2 	
    3 Mercyhurst 	445 	0-0 	 3
    4 SetonHill 	408 	0-0 	 4
    5 Limestone  	383 	2-0 	 5
    6 Adelphi 	 	359 	0-0 	 6
    7 Lenoir-Rhyne 	321 	2-0* 	 8
    8 Mercy 	 	319 	0-0 	 7
    9 MountOlive 	278 	3-0 	15
   10 Indianapolis 	249 	1-0 	 9
   11 Wingate 	 	242 	2-0 	13
   12 Pace  		232 	0-0 	10
   13 Lindenwood 	220 	2-0 	11
   14 Rockhurst 	157 	2-0 	17
   15 Queens (NC) 	129 	0-1 	12
   16 ColoradoMesa 	 95 	0-0 	18
   17 BelmontAbbey 	 83 	0-2 	13
   18 Catawba 	 	 79 	1-1 	16
   19 SaintAnselm  	 68 	0-0 	19
   20 FloridaSouthern 	 51 	0-0 	20

Also receiving votes: Frostburg State 27, Bentley 26, Chestnut Hill 21, Lake Erie 16, Saint Leo 15, Rollins 14, Assumption 11, Lynn 10, FloridaTech 8, Saint Rose 5, Molloy 3, Tusculum 2, Georgian Court 2, NorthGreenville 2



*LR played an exhibition with DI Mercer that does NOT officially count as a DII loss, so I have corrected the 2-1 record that is in the USILA release...

[Lacrossehead17]

22-Feb-21

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Rank	School (FP) 	Total 	Record 	Last Week 	
    1 LeMoyne (22)  	497 	0-0 	 1 	
    2 Tampa (3) 	473 	0-0 	 2 	
    3 Mercyhurst 	445 	0-0 	 3
    4 SetonHill 	408 	0-0 	 4
    5 Limestone  	383 	2-0 	 5
    6 Adelphi 	 	359 	0-0 	 6
    7 Lenoir-Rhyne 	321 	2-0* 	 8
    8 Mercy 	 	319 	0-0 	 7
    9 MountOlive 	278 	3-0 	15
   10 Indianapolis 	249 	1-0 	 9
   11 Wingate 	 	242 	2-0 	13
   12 Pace  		232 	0-0 	10
   13 Lindenwood 	220 	2-0 	11
   14 Rockhurst 	157 	2-0 	17
   15 Queens (NC) 	129 	0-1 	12
   16 ColoradoMesa 	 95 	0-0 	18
   17 BelmontAbbey 	 83 	0-2 	13
   18 Catawba 	 	 79 	1-1 	16
   19 SaintAnselm  	 68 	0-0 	19
   20 FloridaSouthern 	 51 	0-0 	20

Also receiving votes: Frostburg State 27, Bentley 26, Chestnut Hill 21, Lake Erie 16, Saint Leo 15, Rollins 14, Assumption 11, Lynn 10, FloridaTech 8, Saint Rose 5, Molloy 3, Tusculum 2, Georgian Court 2, NorthGreenville 2



*LR played an exhibition with DI Mercer that does NOT officially count as a DII loss, so I have corrected the 2-1 record that is in the USILA release...

I am surprised Catawba dropped only two spots and I am surprised LR didn't move up higher.

[WhiteCarrera]

It'll be interesting to see how Tampa is viewed as the year goes on. Pre-season rankings are basically on reputation, and their schedule will not help them:

Only 10 games (why wouldn't they at least do a double round-robin to get to 12?)
Don't start until March 19,
In-conference games only,
Fla Southern is currently ranked, but they're barely in at #20,
It's a fairly competitive conference, so when Tech, Southern, Rollins, Lynn and Leo start beating each other, will they get ranked or just flounder in the "also receiving votes" category?

So what do you do in May with a 10-0 or 9-1 Tampa, without a win over a top 20 team?

[Lacrossehead17]

It'll be interesting to see how Tampa is viewed as the year goes on. Pre-season rankings are basically on reputation, and their schedule will not help them:

Only 10 games (why wouldn't they at least do a double round-robin to get to 12?)
Don't start until March 19,
In-conference games only,
Fla Southern is currently ranked, but they're barely in at #20,
It's a fairly competitive conference, so when Tech, Southern, Rollins, Lynn and Leo start beating each other, will they get ranked or just flounder in the "also receiving votes" category?

So what do you do in May with a 10-0 or 9-1 Tampa, without a win over a top 20 team?

I would still consider them close to the top they would drop in my opinion but they have the talent o paper if they lose a game they would expect them drop more than a team that played harder competition.

[RedFromMI]

What the SSC is doing with conference only games is not completely uncommon in this pandemic year. I believe the NE10 is doing something similar as well.

With reduced schedules anyway, the number of out of conference games is more limited than what you would get in a normal year. Just makes the selection process harder, and maybe a bit more "iffy" to appropriately determine the teams asked to the dance, so to speak.

[Lacrossehead17]

What the SSC is doing with conference only games is not completely uncommon in this pandemic year. I believe the NE10 is doing something similar as well.

With reduced schedules anyway, the number of out of conference games is more limited than what you would get in a normal year. Just makes the selection process harder, and maybe a bit more "iffy" to appropriately determine the teams asked to the dance, so to speak.

I wouldn't be surprised if there would be a few snubs I believe and since there are few teams in the tournament this year correct?

[RedFromMI]

What the SSC is doing with conference only games is not completely uncommon in this pandemic year. I believe the NE10 is doing something similar as well.

With reduced schedules anyway, the number of out of conference games is more limited than what you would get in a normal year. Just makes the selection process harder, and maybe a bit more "iffy" to appropriately determine the teams asked to the dance, so to speak.

I wouldn't be surprised if there would be a few snubs I believe and since there are few teams in the tournament this year correct?

Men's lax 12->10 (women 16->12)

[WhiteCarrera]

What the SSC is doing with conference only games is not completely uncommon in this pandemic year. I believe the NE10 is doing something similar as well.

With reduced schedules anyway, the number of out of conference games is more limited than what you would get in a normal year. Just makes the selection process harder, and maybe a bit more "iffy" to appropriately determine the teams asked to the dance, so to speak.

The GLVC is another with conference-only games, and a good contrast:
Tampa is more likely to run the table, but in a more balanced conference that might end up with no other ranked teams.
The GLVC has three Top-15 teams, but also three new programs. It'll be harder to win out, but also with some competition lighter than the bottom of the SSC.

Do you want a 10-0 Tampa with no top 20 wins, or a 10-2 Lindenwood/Indy with Top 15 wins and losses?

[10stone5]

22-Feb-21

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Rank	School (FP) 	Total 	Record 	Last Week 	
    1 LeMoyne (22)  	497 	0-0 	 1 	
    2 Tampa (3) 	473 	0-0 	 2 	
    3 Mercyhurst 	445 	0-0 	 3
    4 SetonHill 	408 	0-0 	 4
    5 Limestone  	383 	2-0 	 5
    6 Adelphi 	 	359 	0-0 	 6
    7 Lenoir-Rhyne 	321 	2-0* 	 8
    8 Mercy 	 	319 	0-0 	 7
    9 MountOlive 	278 	3-0 	15
   10 Indianapolis 	249 	1-0 	 9
   11 Wingate 	 	242 	2-0 	13
   12 Pace  		232 	0-0 	10
   13 Lindenwood 	220 	2-0 	11
   14 Rockhurst 	157 	2-0 	17
   15 Queens (NC) 	129 	0-1 	12
   16 ColoradoMesa 	 95 	0-0 	18
   17 BelmontAbbey 	 83 	0-2 	13
   18 Catawba 	 	 79 	1-1 	16
   19 SaintAnselm  	 68 	0-0 	19
   20 FloridaSouthern 	 51 	0-0 	20

Also receiving votes: Frostburg State 27, Bentley 26, Chestnut Hill 21, Lake Erie 16, Saint Leo 15, Rollins 14, Assumption 11, Lynn 10, FloridaTech 8, Saint Rose 5, Molloy 3, Tusculum 2, Georgian Court 2, NorthGreenville 2

*LR played an exhibition with DI Mercer that does NOT officially count as a DII loss, so I have corrected the 2-1 record that is in the USILA release...

I am surprised Catawba dropped only two spots and I am surprised LR didn't move up higher.

Frostburg State getting some votes right after the
move up

[jakester]

What the SSC is doing with conference only games is not completely uncommon in this pandemic year. I believe the NE10 is doing something similar as well.

With reduced schedules anyway, the number of out of conference games is more limited than what you would get in a normal year. Just makes the selection process harder, and maybe a bit more "iffy" to appropriately determine the teams asked to the dance, so to speak.

Agree Red to a point. Look at UMO https://umotrojans.com/sports/mens-lacrosse/schedule. They have their conference games, but did well with outside conference selections in Wingate, Queens, Catawba and CMU. IMO Tampa could have scheduled outside games but choose not to. Might hurt them come section time when the strength of schedule counts...