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Re: Trumpista fascists on the march

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 8:41 am
by Typical Lax Dad
foreverlax wrote: Tue Jan 12, 2021 8:39 am
old salt wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 10:04 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:39 pm
old salt wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:25 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:19 pm
old salt wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 8:12 pm
Rep. Lauren Boebert (R-CO) who has only been in Congress for less than a week was live-tweeting Nancy Pelosi’s location to terrorists as they stormed the U.S. Capitol earlier this week. Frankly, she should be arrested or, at least, expelled. See the 14th Amendment:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 85663.html
Ms Boebert ...tweeted details of the lockdown on the day of the insurrection at the US Capitol carried out by supporters of Donald Trump.

She first shared that the lawmakers had been moved to the House chambers. Then, she tweeted out the "Speaker has been removed from the chambers."

While Ms Boebert did not provide specific details on Ms Pelosi's location, critics allege she was attempting to aid the rioters who were searching for her.
Haven't seen the exact tweets, but according to this she said they'd been moved the House chambers and then was specific about the Speaker no longer being in the House chambers. Don't need to look for Pelosi here.

She should be done.
If she was sending a DM to members in the mob. Otherwise, she can just say she was telling the Twitterverse what was going on, & letting the public know the Reps we still ok & the Speaker had been evacuated. It's a stretch to claim she was providing tactical intel to the mob.
She can say all she wants, she should be done.
Way, way too much other evidence that she's a flaming nutcase.
This is entirely on brand, in character.

Congress, including the GOP, needs to clean house.
It's not as if there aren't people ready to step up and do a good job in helping govern the country for the GOP.
That's not your call. Tell it to the people who voted for her & sent her to DC on their behalf. Each of them has as much say as you do.
So you agree that Hawley and Cruz don't get to make the call they made...based on your logic above.
That’s different....

Re: Trumpista fascists on the march

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:01 am
by MDlaxfan76
old salt wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 10:04 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:39 pm
old salt wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:25 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:19 pm
old salt wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 8:12 pm
Rep. Lauren Boebert (R-CO) who has only been in Congress for less than a week was live-tweeting Nancy Pelosi’s location to terrorists as they stormed the U.S. Capitol earlier this week. Frankly, she should be arrested or, at least, expelled. See the 14th Amendment:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 85663.html
Ms Boebert ...tweeted details of the lockdown on the day of the insurrection at the US Capitol carried out by supporters of Donald Trump.

She first shared that the lawmakers had been moved to the House chambers. Then, she tweeted out the "Speaker has been removed from the chambers."

While Ms Boebert did not provide specific details on Ms Pelosi's location, critics allege she was attempting to aid the rioters who were searching for her.
Haven't seen the exact tweets, but according to this she said they'd been moved the House chambers and then was specific about the Speaker no longer being in the House chambers. Don't need to look for Pelosi here.

She should be done.
If she was sending a DM to members in the mob. Otherwise, she can just say she was telling the Twitterverse what was going on, & letting the public know the Reps we still ok & the Speaker had been evacuated. It's a stretch to claim she was providing tactical intel to the mob.
She can say all she wants, she should be done.
Way, way too much other evidence that she's a flaming nutcase.
This is entirely on brand, in character.

Congress, including the GOP, needs to clean house.
It's not as if there aren't people ready to step up and do a good job in helping govern the country for the GOP.
That's not your call. Tell it to the people who voted for her & sent her to DC on their behalf. Each of them has as much say as you do.
:lol: :roll: I never claimed to have ANY say.
We're both expressing our opinions.
But her fellow Representatives DO get a say, not just her voters.

And, my opinion is that they should expel her, not merely censure.

I also think this should be bi-partisan, indeed good for the GOP to draw some bright lines, certainly ethically and for discipline going forward...as it is, they are going to have an enormous problem with fundraising until they do.

I also think it's possible that she should be prosecuted as part of inciting this insurrection, sedition. Depends on all of her tweets and speeches down the stretch, but these (if I understand correctly) could well be the last straw.

Re: Trumpista fascists on the march

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:07 am
by MDlaxfan76
foreverlax wrote: Tue Jan 12, 2021 8:39 am
old salt wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 10:04 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:39 pm
old salt wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:25 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:19 pm
old salt wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 8:12 pm
Rep. Lauren Boebert (R-CO) who has only been in Congress for less than a week was live-tweeting Nancy Pelosi’s location to terrorists as they stormed the U.S. Capitol earlier this week. Frankly, she should be arrested or, at least, expelled. See the 14th Amendment:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 85663.html
Ms Boebert ...tweeted details of the lockdown on the day of the insurrection at the US Capitol carried out by supporters of Donald Trump.

She first shared that the lawmakers had been moved to the House chambers. Then, she tweeted out the "Speaker has been removed from the chambers."

While Ms Boebert did not provide specific details on Ms Pelosi's location, critics allege she was attempting to aid the rioters who were searching for her.
Haven't seen the exact tweets, but according to this she said they'd been moved the House chambers and then was specific about the Speaker no longer being in the House chambers. Don't need to look for Pelosi here.

She should be done.
If she was sending a DM to members in the mob. Otherwise, she can just say she was telling the Twitterverse what was going on, & letting the public know the Reps we still ok & the Speaker had been evacuated. It's a stretch to claim she was providing tactical intel to the mob.
She can say all she wants, she should be done.
Way, way too much other evidence that she's a flaming nutcase.
This is entirely on brand, in character.

Congress, including the GOP, needs to clean house.
It's not as if there aren't people ready to step up and do a good job in helping govern the country for the GOP.
That's not your call. Tell it to the people who voted for her & sent her to DC on their behalf. Each of them has as much say as you do.
So you agree that Hawley and Cruz don't get to make the call they made...based on your logic above.
Indeed, Salty's statement is stupid and illogical.

However...

Actually, her fellow Reps DO get a say, not as to whether she's been duly elected but rather because she has breached her oath as a House member. She should be expelled.

Hawley and Cruz et al have NO say in the Presidential election, and I'm sure that Salty will again pretend that they were just challenging whether the States have run their election process fair and square (the Big Lie). But House members and Senators DO have a say as to Impeachment and Conviction.

Re: Trumpista fascists on the march

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 11:57 am
by jhu72
Sarah Huckabee is taken down on Twitter by a high school teacher who knew her when she was in high school.

They take no responsibility for themselves - none at all. They claim to be losing "followers" on Twitter because "big tech" is screwing with their accounts. They are being censured because they are conservatives. They never think for a minute that they have done this to themselves. People who had followed them are no longer supporting them. It is that simple. That is what happens when you and your associates stage a coup against the United States. Major losers, all of them. These people are all idiots and cry babies.

Re: Trumpista fascists on the march

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 1:57 pm
by Matnum PI
jordan@jordan_stratton
1 hour ago
Pretty sure there’s already a word for that

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Re: Trumpista fascists on the march

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:08 pm
by jhu72
Matnum PI wrote: Tue Jan 12, 2021 1:57 pm jordan@jordan_stratton
1 hour ago
Pretty sure there’s already a word for that

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:lol: :lol: - marketing genius

Re: Trumpista fascists on the march

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:10 pm
by old salt
Kismet wrote: Tue Jan 12, 2021 6:12 am
old salt wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:25 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:19 pm
old salt wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 8:12 pm
Rep. Lauren Boebert (R-CO) who has only been in Congress for less than a week was live-tweeting Nancy Pelosi’s location to terrorists as they stormed the U.S. Capitol earlier this week. Frankly, she should be arrested or, at least, expelled. See the 14th Amendment:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 85663.html
Ms Boebert ...tweeted details of the lockdown on the day of the insurrection at the US Capitol carried out by supporters of Donald Trump.

She first shared that the lawmakers had been moved to the House chambers. Then, she tweeted out the "Speaker has been removed from the chambers."

While Ms Boebert did not provide specific details on Ms Pelosi's location, critics allege she was attempting to aid the rioters who were searching for her.
Haven't seen the exact tweets, but according to this she said they'd been moved the House chambers and then was specific about the Speaker no longer being in the House chambers. Don't need to look for Pelosi here.

She should be done.
If she was sending a DM to members in the mob. Otherwise, she can just say she was telling the Twitterverse what was going on, & letting the public know the Reps we still ok & the Speaker had been evacuated. It's a stretch to claim she was providing tactical intel to the mob.
Keep defending these morons and criminals. It makes you look as bad as they are. As for her constituents, there is a procedure in Congress for sanctioning garbage behavior like this - explusion. Voters in her district can then elect somebody else. Nobody is saying they go unrepresented - just not by her.
...& you keep exaggerating members of Congress following the Constitution & exercising their right to speak & debate. You & your fellow zealots are trivializing words like sedition, treason & coup. You want to know why there's millions of angry people in this country, ready to explode, examine your own language.

Re: Trumpista fascists on the march

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:17 pm
by RedFromMI
Except this action was the culmination of a slow moving self-coup attempt by Trump. See the following opinion piece by a _real_ expert (Fiona Hill):


OPINION | the big idea
Yes, It Was a Coup Attempt. Here’s Why.

What Trump tried is called a “self-coup,” and he did it in slow motion and in plain sight.
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/ ... ill-457549
ince last Wednesday, people have been arguing what to call what happened at the U.S. Capitol — was it a riot? An uprising? An insurrection? I’ve been public in calling it a coup, but others disagree. Some have said it’s not a coup because the U.S. military and other armed groups weren’t involved, and some because Donald Trump didn’t invoke his presidential powers in support of the mob that broke into the Capitol. Others point out that no one has claimed or proved there was a secret plan directed by the president, and that Trump’s efforts to overturn the outcome of the 2020 presidential election could never have succeeded in the first place.

These observations are based on the idea that a coup is a sudden, violent seizure of power involving clandestine plots and military takeovers. By contrast, Trump’s goal was to keep himself in power, and his actions were taken over a period of months and in slow motion.

But that doesn’t mean it wasn’t a coup attempt. Trump disguised what he was doing by operating in plain sight, talking openly about his intent. He normalized his actions so people would accept them. I’ve been studying authoritarian regimes for three decades, and I know the signs of a coup when I see them.

Technically, what Trump attempted is what’s known as a “self-coup” and Trump isn’t the first leader to try it. Charles Louis Napoleon Bonaparte (nephew of the first Napoleon) pulled one off in France in December 1851 to stay in power beyond his term. Then he declared himself Emperor, Napoleon III. More recently, Nicolas Maduro perpetrated a self-coup in Venezuela after losing the 2017 elections.

Re: Trumpista fascists on the march

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:17 pm
by MDlaxfan76
old salt wrote: Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:10 pm
Kismet wrote: Tue Jan 12, 2021 6:12 am
old salt wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:25 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:19 pm
old salt wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 8:12 pm
Rep. Lauren Boebert (R-CO) who has only been in Congress for less than a week was live-tweeting Nancy Pelosi’s location to terrorists as they stormed the U.S. Capitol earlier this week. Frankly, she should be arrested or, at least, expelled. See the 14th Amendment:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 85663.html
Ms Boebert ...tweeted details of the lockdown on the day of the insurrection at the US Capitol carried out by supporters of Donald Trump.

She first shared that the lawmakers had been moved to the House chambers. Then, she tweeted out the "Speaker has been removed from the chambers."

While Ms Boebert did not provide specific details on Ms Pelosi's location, critics allege she was attempting to aid the rioters who were searching for her.
Haven't seen the exact tweets, but according to this she said they'd been moved the House chambers and then was specific about the Speaker no longer being in the House chambers. Don't need to look for Pelosi here.

She should be done.
If she was sending a DM to members in the mob. Otherwise, she can just say she was telling the Twitterverse what was going on, & letting the public know the Reps we still ok & the Speaker had been evacuated. It's a stretch to claim she was providing tactical intel to the mob.
Keep defending these morons and criminals. It makes you look as bad as they are. As for her constituents, there is a procedure in Congress for sanctioning garbage behavior like this - explusion. Voters in her district can then elect somebody else. Nobody is saying they go unrepresented - just not by her.
...& you keep exaggerating members of Congress following the Constitution & exercising their right to speak & debate. You & your fellow zealots are trivializing words like sedition, treason & coup. You want to know why there's millions of angry people in this country, ready to explode, examine your own language.
Nonsense, she was calling for the overturn of an election and was encouraging violent sedition and insurrection. Aiding and abetting, inciting.

Period, end of story.
The voters can have another shot at electing someone else...surely there are many ready to step up.

And this is enormously rich...how many times did you use the word coup for an Impeachment of a President for violating the Constitution, his oath of office, and any notion of ethical conduct? dozens of times.

Re: Trumpista fascists on the march

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:19 pm
by old salt
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Jan 12, 2021 8:41 am
foreverlax wrote: Tue Jan 12, 2021 8:39 am
old salt wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 10:04 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:39 pm
old salt wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:25 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:19 pm
old salt wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 8:12 pm
Rep. Lauren Boebert (R-CO) who has only been in Congress for less than a week was live-tweeting Nancy Pelosi’s location to terrorists as they stormed the U.S. Capitol earlier this week. Frankly, she should be arrested or, at least, expelled. See the 14th Amendment:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 85663.html
Ms Boebert ...tweeted details of the lockdown on the day of the insurrection at the US Capitol carried out by supporters of Donald Trump.

She first shared that the lawmakers had been moved to the House chambers. Then, she tweeted out the "Speaker has been removed from the chambers."

While Ms Boebert did not provide specific details on Ms Pelosi's location, critics allege she was attempting to aid the rioters who were searching for her.
Haven't seen the exact tweets, but according to this she said they'd been moved the House chambers and then was specific about the Speaker no longer being in the House chambers. Don't need to look for Pelosi here.

She should be done.
If she was sending a DM to members in the mob. Otherwise, she can just say she was telling the Twitterverse what was going on, & letting the public know the Reps we still ok & the Speaker had been evacuated. It's a stretch to claim she was providing tactical intel to the mob.
She can say all she wants, she should be done.
Way, way too much other evidence that she's a flaming nutcase.
This is entirely on brand, in character.

Congress, including the GOP, needs to clean house.
It's not as if there aren't people ready to step up and do a good job in helping govern the country for the GOP.
That's not your call. Tell it to the people who voted for her & sent her to DC on their behalf. Each of them has as much say as you do.
So you agree that Hawley and Cruz don't get to make the call they made...based on your logic above.
That’s different....
Just the opposite. Hawley & Cruz represent what their constituents think or they wouldn't take the risk of objecting. They represent the people in their home states, not bi-coastal elites like you. I haven't done the math for TX, but all but 2 of 8 (R) members of Congress (both houses) from MO objected.

Re: Trumpista fascists on the march

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:22 pm
by MDlaxfan76
If by "represent" you mean that their constituents (BTW, they represent ALL of the citizens of their state not just the rabid activists or the moneyed interest that funded them) WANT them to incite, aid and abet an insurrection to overturn a lawful, fully certified election won fair and square by the opposition party...well, that's not the OATH they took.

This is just gross, Salty.

Re: Trumpista fascists on the march

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:26 pm
by Kismet
old salt wrote: Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:10 pm
Kismet wrote: Tue Jan 12, 2021 6:12 am
old salt wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:25 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:19 pm
old salt wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 8:12 pm
Rep. Lauren Boebert (R-CO) who has only been in Congress for less than a week was live-tweeting Nancy Pelosi’s location to terrorists as they stormed the U.S. Capitol earlier this week. Frankly, she should be arrested or, at least, expelled. See the 14th Amendment:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 85663.html
Ms Boebert ...tweeted details of the lockdown on the day of the insurrection at the US Capitol carried out by supporters of Donald Trump.

She first shared that the lawmakers had been moved to the House chambers. Then, she tweeted out the "Speaker has been removed from the chambers."

While Ms Boebert did not provide specific details on Ms Pelosi's location, critics allege she was attempting to aid the rioters who were searching for her.
Haven't seen the exact tweets, but according to this she said they'd been moved the House chambers and then was specific about the Speaker no longer being in the House chambers. Don't need to look for Pelosi here.

She should be done.
If she was sending a DM to members in the mob. Otherwise, she can just say she was telling the Twitterverse what was going on, & letting the public know the Reps we still ok & the Speaker had been evacuated. It's a stretch to claim she was providing tactical intel to the mob.
Keep defending these morons and criminals. It makes you look as bad as they are. As for her constituents, there is a procedure in Congress for sanctioning garbage behavior like this - explusion. Voters in her district can then elect somebody else. Nobody is saying they go unrepresented - just not by her.
...& you keep exaggerating members of Congress following the Constitution & exercising their right to speak & debate. You & your fellow zealots are trivializing words like sedition, treason & coup. You want to know why there's millions of angry people in this country, ready to explode, examine your own language.
BULLSHIRT!!!
Just like you parse all sorts of stuff here to make your points to do the very same things to take others to task for - I am not required to abide by your double standard.

Up Yours! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Trumpista fascists on the march

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:28 pm
by jhu72
Just the opposite. Hawley & Cruz represent what their constituents think or they wouldn't take the risk of objecting. They represent the people in their home states
... that is rationalization. Neither of these guys had that in mind. They were running for 2024. Totally self serving motivation.

Re: Trumpista fascists on the march

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:31 pm
by old salt
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:01 am I also think it's possible that she should be prosecuted as part of inciting this insurrection, sedition. Depends on all of her tweets and speeches down the stretch, but these (if I understand correctly) could well be the last straw.
:roll: ...you're having a wet dream. This is the USA, not E Germany.

Re: Trumpista fascists on the march

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:35 pm
by MDlaxfan76
old salt wrote: Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:31 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:01 am I also think it's possible that she should be prosecuted as part of inciting this insurrection, sedition. Depends on all of her tweets and speeches down the stretch, but these (if I understand correctly) could well be the last straw.
:roll: ...you're having a wet dream. This is the USA, not E Germany.
nice phrase, Salty, leave it to you to double down.

Yup, this is the USA, not E Germany, not Nazi Gernamy, not a lot of places and times, thank god. Let's keep it that way, huh?

We have a Constitutional process for removal when a member of Congress breaches ethical conduct beyond all bounds. And we then get to elect a replacement.

Prosecution for insurrection and sedition is another matter, with a 20 year sentence, I'd need to see all of her tweets and speeches before recommending that for sure. But I wouldn't doubt that she faces that potential.

Re: Trumpista fascists on the march

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:45 pm
by RedFromMI
jhu72 wrote: Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:28 pm
Just the opposite. Hawley & Cruz represent what their constituents think or they wouldn't take the risk of objecting. They represent the people in their home states
... that is rationalization. Neither of these guys had that in mind. They were running for 2024. Totally self serving motivation.
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Re: Trumpista fascists on the march

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:57 pm
by old salt
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:35 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:31 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:01 am I also think it's possible that she should be prosecuted as part of inciting this insurrection, sedition. Depends on all of her tweets and speeches down the stretch, but these (if I understand correctly) could well be the last straw.
:roll: ...you're having a wet dream. This is the USA, not E Germany.
nice phrase, Salty, leave it to you to double down.

Yup, this is the USA, not E Germany, not Nazi Gernamy, not a lot of places and times, thank god. Let's keep it that way, huh?

We have a Constitutional process for removal when a member of Congress breaches ethical conduct beyond all bounds. And we then get to elect a replacement.

Prosecution for insurrection and sedition is another matter, with a 20 year sentence, I'd need to see all of her tweets and speeches before recommending that for sure. But I wouldn't doubt that she faces that potential.
Start expelling members of Congress for exercising their Constitutional right of speech & debate & see where that leads.

Re: Trumpista fascists on the march

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 3:04 pm
by old salt
jhu72 wrote: Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:28 pm
Just the opposite. Hawley & Cruz represent what their constituents think or they wouldn't take the risk of objecting. They represent the people in their home states
... that is rationalization. Neither of these guys had that in mind. They were running for 2024. Totally self serving motivation.
...& 17 of 23 (R) members of the TX Congressional delegation objected.

Re: Trumpista fascists on the march

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 3:10 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
old salt wrote: Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:19 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Jan 12, 2021 8:41 am
foreverlax wrote: Tue Jan 12, 2021 8:39 am
old salt wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 10:04 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:39 pm
old salt wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:25 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:19 pm
old salt wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 8:12 pm
Rep. Lauren Boebert (R-CO) who has only been in Congress for less than a week was live-tweeting Nancy Pelosi’s location to terrorists as they stormed the U.S. Capitol earlier this week. Frankly, she should be arrested or, at least, expelled. See the 14th Amendment:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 85663.html
Ms Boebert ...tweeted details of the lockdown on the day of the insurrection at the US Capitol carried out by supporters of Donald Trump.

She first shared that the lawmakers had been moved to the House chambers. Then, she tweeted out the "Speaker has been removed from the chambers."

While Ms Boebert did not provide specific details on Ms Pelosi's location, critics allege she was attempting to aid the rioters who were searching for her.
Haven't seen the exact tweets, but according to this she said they'd been moved the House chambers and then was specific about the Speaker no longer being in the House chambers. Don't need to look for Pelosi here.

She should be done.
If she was sending a DM to members in the mob. Otherwise, she can just say she was telling the Twitterverse what was going on, & letting the public know the Reps we still ok & the Speaker had been evacuated. It's a stretch to claim she was providing tactical intel to the mob.
She can say all she wants, she should be done.
Way, way too much other evidence that she's a flaming nutcase.
This is entirely on brand, in character.

Congress, including the GOP, needs to clean house.
It's not as if there aren't people ready to step up and do a good job in helping govern the country for the GOP.
That's not your call. Tell it to the people who voted for her & sent her to DC on their behalf. Each of them has as much say as you do.
So you agree that Hawley and Cruz don't get to make the call they made...based on your logic above.
That’s different....
Just the opposite. Hawley & Cruz represent what their constituents think or they wouldn't take the risk of objecting. They represent the people in their home states, not bi-coastal elites like you. I haven't done the math for TX, but all but 2 of 8 (R) members of Congress (both houses) from MO objected.
Thanks Friend

Re: Trumpista fascists on the march

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 3:38 pm
by Farfromgeneva
jhu72 wrote: Tue Jan 12, 2021 11:57 am Sarah Huckabee is taken down on Twitter by a high school teacher who knew her when she was in high school.

They take no responsibility for themselves - none at all. They claim to be losing "followers" on Twitter because "big tech" is screwing with their accounts. They are being censured because they are conservatives. They never think for a minute that they have done this to themselves. People who had followed them are no longer supporting them. It is that simple. That is what happens when you and your associates stage a coup against the United States. Major losers, all of them. These people are all idiots and cry babies.
Whiny little biyach losers who feebly attempt at presenting a rock hard image but go down like glass Joe in general and especially when they don’t have a mob behind them against one or a small group. Been saying this for years.