Re: All Things Environment
Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2024 11:41 am
The hurricane happened just like Mt St Helens happened.The earth did what it wanted to do, where it wanted to and when it wanted to.
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Re: All Things Environment
Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2024 12:07 pm
Re: All Things Environment
Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2024 1:44 pm
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Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2024 3:00 pm
Re: All Things Environment
Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2024 3:56 pm
... Florida should have taken Ivermectin and drank some Chlorox.NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 1:44 pmBiden could have saved a lot of people and billions of dollars with a sharpie. Talk about a lack of leadership.
Re: All Things Environment
Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2024 5:25 pm
Somehow I don't think folks in FL GA, NC and SC get the joke. But thankfully for them they have no power, cell coverage, shelter, food or water so they won't realize what they are missing.
Read this very sad story of someone who could not be saved.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/30/us/h ... loods.html
...and then wise up and THINK before posting next time.
Re: All Things Environment
Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2024 5:44 pm
Does your fist hurt from clutching your pearls so tightly, b/c not one single person is making light of the situation, that headline does not do it either...its making fun of those 'claiming' this is a result of CO2 consequences, and yet, in 1917 that very same town was destroyed by much the same, and the CO2 at that time was around 300ppm, long before any industrial age.Kismet wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 5:25 pmSomehow I don't think folks in FL GA, NC and SC get the joke. But thankfully for them they have no power, cell coverage, shelter, food or water so they won't realize what they are missing.
Read this very sad story of someone who could not be saved.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/30/us/h ... loods.html
...and then wise up and THINK before posting next time.
We all likely know someone impacted this, My Aunt in Florida list everything in her home, thankfully the home is still standing, and a close friend likes in just outside that town.....fortunately, he was on high ground but is immersed helping others.
Indeed a horrible situation.
Re: All Things Environment
Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2024 5:48 pm
Asheville and the mountains of NC are really known for their hurricanes.
The Bee really nailed that one eh?
The Bee really nailed that one eh?
Re: All Things Environment
Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2024 5:53 pm
My fist is fine. Not quite sure about you, however.youthathletics wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 5:44 pm Does your fist hurt from clutching your pearls so tightly, b/c not one single person is making light of the situation, that headline does not do it either...its making fun of those 'claiming' this is a result of CO2 consequences, and yet, in 1917 that very same town was destroyed by much the same, and the CO2 at that time was around 300ppm, long before any industrial age.
We all likely know someone impacted this, My Aunt in Florida list everything in her home, thankfully the home is still standing, and a close friend likes in just outside that town.....fortunately, he was on high ground but is immersed helping others.
Indeed a horrible situation.
Re: All Things Environment
Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2024 6:35 pm
I know right, happened in 1916 as well, with a co2 at 300ppm. Climate Change was happening then as well, because of all the same things we are doing.NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 5:48 pm Asheville and the mountains of NC are really known for their hurricanes.
The Bee really nailed that one eh?
https://storymaps.arcgis.com/stories/bc ... 6a8156d92b
Re: All Things Environment
Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2024 7:37 pm
Any commentary on the bad attempt at satire by the Bee suggesting that western NC is a hurricane alley? Or are you just gonna do the whataboutism?youthathletics wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 6:35 pmI know right, happened in 1916 as well, with a co2 at 300ppm. Climate Change was happening then as well, because of all the same things we are doing.NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 5:48 pm Asheville and the mountains of NC are really known for their hurricanes.
The Bee really nailed that one eh?
https://storymaps.arcgis.com/stories/bc ... 6a8156d92b
Do you find it interesting that back in 1916 it took back to back hurricanes 7 days apart to do all that damage vs one hurricane just now?
Re: All Things Environment
Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2024 8:22 pm
....answered earlier, read the reply to Kismet. There is clear science as to how this happens, especially with higher elevations, called mountain-enhanced orographic lift. Wait for it.....geography impacts weather.NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 7:37 pmAny commentary on the bad attempt at satire by the Bee suggesting that western NC is a hurricane alley? Or are you just gonna do the whataboutism?youthathletics wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 6:35 pmI know right, happened in 1916 as well, with a co2 at 300ppm. Climate Change was happening then as well, because of all the same things we are doing.NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 5:48 pm Asheville and the mountains of NC are really known for their hurricanes.
The Bee really nailed that one eh?
https://storymaps.arcgis.com/stories/bc ... 6a8156d92b
Do you find it interesting that back in 1916 it took back to back hurricanes 7 days apart to do all that damage vs one hurricane just now?
Re: All Things Environment
Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2024 9:23 pm
youthathletics wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 8:22 pm....answered earlier, read the reply to Kismet. There is clear science as to how this happens, especially with higher elevations, called mountain-enhanced orographic lift. Wait for it.....geography impacts weather.NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 7:37 pmAny commentary on the bad attempt at satire by the Bee suggesting that western NC is a hurricane alley? Or are you just gonna do the whataboutism?youthathletics wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 6:35 pmI know right, happened in 1916 as well, with a co2 at 300ppm. Climate Change was happening then as well, because of all the same things we are doing.NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 5:48 pm Asheville and the mountains of NC are really known for their hurricanes.
The Bee really nailed that one eh?
https://storymaps.arcgis.com/stories/bc ... 6a8156d92b
Do you find it interesting that back in 1916 it took back to back hurricanes 7 days apart to do all that damage vs one hurricane just now?
You answered neither in your previous reply. LMAO.
What about the fact that it took back to back hurricanes within 7 days back in 1916 to do that kind of damage. And just one hurricane now to do even more.
And since when is western NC and eastern TN "Hurricane Alley"? It's not a humorous satire piece, and it's premise is entirely wrong in the first place.
Re: All Things Environment
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2024 6:45 am
Actually, there is some climate scoence to this storm
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/30/clim ... rains.html
""How Helene Wrought So Much Havoc, So Far From the Coasts
Hurricanes typically weaken over land. But if the ground is already wet from earlier rains, storms can receive an extra jolt that keeps them churning.
Helene roared ashore in Florida last Thursday as a Category 4 hurricane then charged hundreds of miles inland, dumping trillions of gallons of rain along the way. The storm’s winds weakened over land, as hurricanes usually do because they no longer have access to the warm ocean waters that power them.
In Helene’s case, though, precursor rains had left the ground damp from Atlanta through the southern Appalachian region. This moisture could have given the storm an extra jolt of energy, particularly after a summer as hot as this year’s, Dr. Niyogi said.
“If you have wet and hot soil, then we are really priming the land” to juice up a storm, he said. Scientists call this phenomenon the brown-ocean effect, because it causes waterlogged soil to influence a storm in the same way the sea surface does.
Helene is the latest in a string of extreme rain and flood events that have inflicted misery across the globe this year.'
Maybe YA will finally be happy. 
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/30/clim ... rains.html
""How Helene Wrought So Much Havoc, So Far From the Coasts
Hurricanes typically weaken over land. But if the ground is already wet from earlier rains, storms can receive an extra jolt that keeps them churning.
Helene roared ashore in Florida last Thursday as a Category 4 hurricane then charged hundreds of miles inland, dumping trillions of gallons of rain along the way. The storm’s winds weakened over land, as hurricanes usually do because they no longer have access to the warm ocean waters that power them.
In Helene’s case, though, precursor rains had left the ground damp from Atlanta through the southern Appalachian region. This moisture could have given the storm an extra jolt of energy, particularly after a summer as hot as this year’s, Dr. Niyogi said.
“If you have wet and hot soil, then we are really priming the land” to juice up a storm, he said. Scientists call this phenomenon the brown-ocean effect, because it causes waterlogged soil to influence a storm in the same way the sea surface does.
Helene is the latest in a string of extreme rain and flood events that have inflicted misery across the globe this year.'
Maybe YA will finally be happy.
Re: All Things Environment
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2024 11:24 am
Most human civilization, site planning and public infrastructure, is woefully unprepared for what is coming.
I hope those billionaire’s bunkers have good water processing capacity.
I feel the worst for the older generations: unlikely to be able to adapt to the changed climate reality.
I recommend everyone determine two things:
Water source
How to purify said water.
Then consider food. Of course, this presumes shelter is in hand.
I hope those billionaire’s bunkers have good water processing capacity.
I feel the worst for the older generations: unlikely to be able to adapt to the changed climate reality.
I recommend everyone determine two things:
Water source
How to purify said water.
Then consider food. Of course, this presumes shelter is in hand.
Re: All Things Environment
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2024 3:55 pm
Going to kill their slaves if they aren’t careful…
Or, maybe that’s a feature. Not a bug.
“No water, no shade. Life as a roofer in the sweltering Florida heat: ‘It feels like 120F’”
CKD is a reality.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... treme-heat
Or, maybe that’s a feature. Not a bug.
“No water, no shade. Life as a roofer in the sweltering Florida heat: ‘It feels like 120F’”
CKD is a reality.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... treme-heat
Re: All Things Environment
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2024 8:20 am
Having done some roofing as a younger man...sweating your balls off on a hot day laying shingles is not a recent discovery. You wanna know what was really dangerous about roofing? Carrying a bundle of shingles up a ladder will wear you down quickly. One advantage all roofers have...they get the best tans around. FTR if you stay hydrated and drink a lot of water the heat is a nuisance. I use to soak a bandana with cool water and put it around my neck. It is a tough job better performed by younger people.PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Tue Oct 01, 2024 3:55 pm Going to kill their slaves if they aren’t careful…
Or, maybe that’s a feature. Not a bug.
“No water, no shade. Life as a roofer in the sweltering Florida heat: ‘It feels like 120F’”
CKD is a reality.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... treme-heat
Re: All Things Environment
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2024 10:27 am
Agreed. I also did it for two summers. And our projects were townhomes at the time.....which was waaaaaay up in the air, carrying 20 Squares of shingles up an extension ladder ~30 feet, just brutal. Not only did you have the heat, you coupled it with the physical exhaustion. Now adays, they flood a residential roof with at least 5-10 people, they can rip and replace an average roof in no time, whereas 30 years ago, it was a couple/few and a helper.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2024 8:20 amHaving done some roofing as a younger man...sweating your balls off on a hot day laying shingles is not a recent discovery. You wanna know what was really dangerous about roofing? Carrying a bundle of shingles up a ladder will wear you down quickly. One advantage all roofers have...they get the best tans around. FTR if you stay hydrated and drink a lot of water the heat is a nuisance. I use to soak a bandana with cool water and put it around my neck. It is a tough job better performed by younger people.PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Tue Oct 01, 2024 3:55 pm Going to kill their slaves if they aren’t careful…
Or, maybe that’s a feature. Not a bug.
“No water, no shade. Life as a roofer in the sweltering Florida heat: ‘It feels like 120F’”
CKD is a reality.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... treme-heat
Re: All Things Environment
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2024 11:19 am
You get it YA. For some folks to only recently came to the understanding how hot it is on a roof in mid July. Climate change doesn't mean diddly squat. If your a roofer your gonna work on really hot roofs with the sun beating down on you.. The reality is being a roofer was brutal long before climate change was invented.youthathletics wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2024 10:27 amAgreed. I also did it for two summers. And our projects were townhomes at the time.....which was waaaaaay up in the air, carrying 20 Squares of shingles up an extension ladder ~30 feet, just brutal. Not only did you have the heat, you coupled it with the physical exhaustion. Now adays, they flood a residential roof with at least 5-10 people, they can rip and replace an average roof in no time, whereas 30 years ago, it was a couple/few and a helper.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2024 8:20 amHaving done some roofing as a younger man...sweating your balls off on a hot day laying shingles is not a recent discovery. You wanna know what was really dangerous about roofing? Carrying a bundle of shingles up a ladder will wear you down quickly. One advantage all roofers have...they get the best tans around. FTR if you stay hydrated and drink a lot of water the heat is a nuisance. I use to soak a bandana with cool water and put it around my neck. It is a tough job better performed by younger people.PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Tue Oct 01, 2024 3:55 pm Going to kill their slaves if they aren’t careful…
Or, maybe that’s a feature. Not a bug.
“No water, no shade. Life as a roofer in the sweltering Florida heat: ‘It feels like 120F’”
CKD is a reality.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... treme-heat
Re: All Things Environment
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2024 12:10 pm
Of course YA and C&S both missed the points of the article.
Here's a little more info on why Florida employers don't have to give water breaks or heat breaks - DeSantis signs bill banning Florida counties from requiring heat and water breaks for outdoor workers
And who cares if there are more hot days now than 20 years ago.
Here's a little more info on why Florida employers don't have to give water breaks or heat breaks - DeSantis signs bill banning Florida counties from requiring heat and water breaks for outdoor workers
And who cares if there are more hot days now than 20 years ago.