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TAV wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 11:57 am

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jrn19 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 21, 2021 10:08 am

TAV wrote: ↑Sun Mar 21, 2021 6:37 am

Gorilla Fan wrote: ↑Sat Mar 20, 2021 9:48 pm Maryland is the best team. They most likely will go undefeated and will be regarded as one of the all time great teams. Pains me to say it. They pass the eyeball test.

As a Carolina Fan, all I can say is 2016.

This year, I think Maryland would have a tough time against ANY ACC team and that includes ND.

An ACC team will win it all, hopefully UNC, but I could make a good case for any of them; the Big 10 doesn’t compare to the competition of the ACC. Maryland’s play is predicable - same thing, year in and year out.

Who cares about undefeated in the regular season. @ 10-6 Carolina didn’t have a chance in 2016.

I think Duke is probably the most complete team; we’ll see April 1st.

At this level, there’s always an X Factor come May, we’ll see who’s on a roll then.

“Maryland’s play is predictable - same thing, year in and year out”

Is that predictability making 7 of the last 9 Final Fours, 5 of the last 9 Championship Games, being a #1 seed in 3 of the last 4 tournaments? I suppose that is more predictable than UNC who hasn’t even made the tournament since 2017.

I knew that response was coming. That have a good program, no doubt. The play is boring, just my opinion. If they were still in the ACC, I think their record would be a bit less. They’ve won 1 NC in the last 35 years; Carolina has won? 3-4-5? I forget. Making it too the FF is one thing, actually win it is another. Both programs have a rich history and are among the historic “elite” lacrosse programs...I just prefer Carolina style of play and being ACC, I’d prefer that conference win the NC. No big deal. I will say that Tillman is a class act. We’ll see how it all shakes out...

Since when has a team scoring 17 goals a game ever been boring? Have you even watched a Maryland game this year?

Yeah, all of them.

I’m not arguing with you, it’s my opinion. Move on.

If they win the NC, so be it. They will be 4-11 lifetime.

With parity, year in and year out, there are roughly 6-8 teams that have a legit shot @ winning the tournament, much has to do with team chemistry and who’s consistently hot at that time of year - there’s no real way to foresee that so much of the ranking is silliness and fun for week to week discussion.

All statistical models exclude control chart variation analysis so are limited @ best. Also, we have the comparatively subjective NCAA input, so most of the handwringing should be about the 8 at large bids.

On all counts, Maryland will make the Tournament and will be a very high Seed if not #1 or #2 and thus far looks like they have a very good chance of winning their 4th NC.

Are you happy now?

I’m a Carolina fan, but have you watched Duke and SU play? They can play some Lacrosse. UVA has talent and has time to fix and make a run. Even ND, with a quality defense, could be in the mix.

All I was pointing out is that this year, the ACC has 5 pretty good lacrosse teams. The Big10 looks to have 2.

All I was pointing out was the seemingly illogical statement that the terps are “boring” seeing as how they’re one of the highest scoring teams in that country. A statement like that makes it sound like you haven’t gotten over Tillman’s stall ball teams of years past. This team is a far cry from those pre-shot clock days.

Lots of top 10 and top 20 losses so there will be movement than normal.

What I expect the rankings to be tomorrow:

1 North Carolina (8 - 0) Did not play
2 Duke (9 - 0) Beat SU
3 Maryland (6 - 0) Beat Rutgers
4 Denver (6 - 2) Beat Providence
5 Syracuse (4 - 2) Lost to Duke
6 Rutgers (4 - 2) Lost to MD
7 Army (4 - 1) Beat Holy Cross
8 Virginia (7 - 2) Beat ND
9 Notre Dame (4 - 1) Lost to UVA
10 Georgetown (6- 1) Beat Nova
11 Lehigh (4 - 0) Beat Colgate
12 Delaware (6 - 1) Did not play
13 Ohio State (3 - 3) Beat Michigan
14 Navy (3 - 0) Beat. Bucknell
15 Vermont (4 - 2) Beat Hartford
16 Loyola (4 - 3) Lost to Towson
17 Hofstra (4 - 1) Beat Fairfield
18 UMass (2 - 1) Lost to Albany
19 Villanova (3-2) Lost Georgetown
20 Richmond (4 - 3) Beat Highpoint
21 Johns Hopkins (2 - 4) Lost to Penn State
22 Stony Brook (5-3) Beat UAlbany
23 UAlbany (4-1) Beat UMass, Lost to Stony Brook
24 Bryant (5-1) Beat Merrimack
25 Penn State (2-4) Beat JHU

I think Syracuse might be above Denver, but it is a coin flip. I think ND hurt themselves in that loss more than UVA made a case to move up.

Seems like Syracuse/Denver is close but. Maybe Cuse stays above. Would argue Army above RU. Lower end Boston U and Bryant should be in top 20 at this stage. Even with marginal schedules to date it’s harder to ignore 5-1 given both the flaws and records of other teams. Loyola might drop further. Really just a mess below Del IMO

ND has an incredibly difficult schedule, Cuse, Duke, Duke, NC, Cuse, I don’t see a lot of wins. That was a tough loss.

xxxxxxx wrote: ↑Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:31 pm ND has an incredibly difficult schedule, Cuse, Duke, Duke, NC, Cuse, I don’t see a lot of wins. That was a tough loss.

If they lose to Cuse with the two Duke games coming up....they could be looking at a few in a row very fast. And you have to be over .500 to make the tournament, at least you have in the past. Maybe they’ll change it this year. But something to watch out for with them only having 4 OOC games and losing what seemed like their most winnable ACC game.

jrn19 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:36 pm

xxxxxxx wrote: ↑Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:31 pm ND has an incredibly difficult schedule, Cuse, Duke, Duke, NC, Cuse, I don’t see a lot of wins. That was a tough loss.

If they lose to Cuse with the two Duke games coming up....they could be looking at a few in a row very fast. And you have to be over .500 to make the tournament, at least you have in the past. Maybe they’ll change it this year. But something to watch out for with them only having 4 OOC games and losing what seemed like their most winnable ACC game.

I have no skin in it, but they could easily lose out 1 vs no 1, 2 vs no 2, 2 vs no 5 probably hardest final 5 stretch in history.

jrn19 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:36 pm

xxxxxxx wrote: ↑Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:31 pm ND has an incredibly difficult schedule, Cuse, Duke, Duke, NC, Cuse, I don’t see a lot of wins. That was a tough loss.

If they lose to Cuse with the two Duke games coming up....they could be looking at a few in a row very fast. And you have to be over .500 to make the tournament, at least you have in the past. Maybe they’ll change it this year. But something to watch out for with them only having 4 OOC games and losing what seemed like their most winnable ACC game.

I believe that a team will still need to be >=.500 to make the NCAA tournament. It is an easy rule for the committee to uphold. It will help them minimize the political issues that subjective rankings create. I also think they will limit the bracket to 16 teams as there is 1 less AQ this year. Last place in the ACC is not a lock to make the tournament despite what the media says.

DU-fan wrote: ↑Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:51 pm

jrn19 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:36 pm

xxxxxxx wrote: ↑Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:31 pm ND has an incredibly difficult schedule, Cuse, Duke, Duke, NC, Cuse, I don’t see a lot of wins. That was a tough loss.

If they lose to Cuse with the two Duke games coming up....they could be looking at a few in a row very fast. And you have to be over .500 to make the tournament, at least you have in the past. Maybe they’ll change it this year. But something to watch out for with them only having 4 OOC games and losing what seemed like their most winnable ACC game.

I believe that a team will still need to be >=.500 to make the NCAA tournament. It is an easy rule for the committee to uphold. It will help them minimize the political issues that subjective rankings create. I also think they will limit the bracket to 16 teams as there is 1 less AQ this year. Last place in the ACC is not a lock to make the tournament despite what the media says.

If they win 1 and get to 5-5 they’ll make it. There just aren’t other options. UMass is probably done as an AL with the Albany loss. 3 PL teams aren’t getting in after Loyola’s loss to Towson. And an ACC win will be better than most other teams best one.

But if they’re below .500 and ineligible well then things get very interesting.

jrn19 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 28, 2021 7:33 pm

DU-fan wrote: ↑Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:51 pm

jrn19 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:36 pm

xxxxxxx wrote: ↑Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:31 pm ND has an incredibly difficult schedule, Cuse, Duke, Duke, NC, Cuse, I don’t see a lot of wins. That was a tough loss.

If they lose to Cuse with the two Duke games coming up....they could be looking at a few in a row very fast. And you have to be over .500 to make the tournament, at least you have in the past. Maybe they’ll change it this year. But something to watch out for with them only having 4 OOC games and losing what seemed like their most winnable ACC game.

I believe that a team will still need to be >=.500 to make the NCAA tournament. It is an easy rule for the committee to uphold. It will help them minimize the political issues that subjective rankings create. I also think they will limit the bracket to 16 teams as there is 1 less AQ this year. Last place in the ACC is not a lock to make the tournament despite what the media says.

If they win 1 and get to 5-5 they’ll make it. There just aren’t other options. UMass is probably done as an AL with the Albany loss. 3 PL teams aren’t getting in after Loyola’s loss to Towson. And an ACC win will be better than most other teams best one.

But if they’re below .500 and ineligible well then things get very interesting.

I agree with your assessment.

DU-fan wrote: ↑Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:12 pm
What I expect the rankings to be tomorrow:

1 North Carolina (8 - 0) Did not play
2 Duke (9 - 0) Beat SU
3 Maryland (6 - 0) Beat Rutgers
4 Denver (6 - 2) Beat Providence
5 Syracuse (4 - 2) Lost to Duke
6 Rutgers (4 - 2) Lost to MD
7 Army (4 - 1) Beat Holy Cross
8 Virginia (7 - 2) Beat ND
9 Notre Dame (4 - 1) Lost to UVA
10 Georgetown (6- 1) Beat Nova

Can you give your rationale for having Denver at #4 with two losses and just one quality win over your #10 Georgetown? I would argue Army should be ranked above them with one loss and a win over your #5 Syracuse. UVA has a better case as well. They both have 2 top five losses but UVA has wins against your #7 and #9.

BigTom4 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 29, 2021 6:56 am

DU-fan wrote: ↑Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:12 pm
What I expect the rankings to be tomorrow:

1 North Carolina (8 - 0) Did not play
2 Duke (9 - 0) Beat SU
3 Maryland (6 - 0) Beat Rutgers
4 Denver (6 - 2) Beat Providence
5 Syracuse (4 - 2) Lost to Duke
6 Rutgers (4 - 2) Lost to MD
7 Army (4 - 1) Beat Holy Cross
8 Virginia (7 - 2) Beat ND
9 Notre Dame (4 - 1) Lost to UVA
10 Georgetown (6- 1) Beat Nova

Can you give your rationale for having Denver at #4 with two losses and just one quality win over your #10 Georgetown? I would argue Army should be ranked above them with one loss and a win over your #5 Syracuse. UVA has a better case as well. They both have 2 top five losses but UVA has wins against your #7 and #9.

I don't think Syracuse and UVA are as good as you, and I think Denver is significantly better than they were in week 0.

Denver was leading against Duke for much fo the game and only lost by 2. They were blown out by UNC, but I think they were exhausted, unprepared and made big defensive scheme mistakes that UNC exploited. Since then Jackson Morrill and Lucas Cotler have gelled with the rest of the offense and Denver has cleaned up their defense. Denver beat Georgetown convincingly, when Georgetown was ranked #4. They also have TD now.

UVA's quality wins are ND and Army, so I struggle to rank Army. I think Army is better than Syracuse and think beating SU in the dome is clear evidence. But, losing to UVA makes it hard. UVA's win over Loyola does not look as good as it used to. ND has demonstrated an ability to dominate weaker opponents, but looked average against UVA.

Denver also beat ND at the end of last season and Denver lost no impact players and significantly upgraded with Morrill, Cotler, and TD. ND lost Bryan Costabile and made some very good upgrades on the Transfer portal.

Syracuse's only quality win in UVA and I don't think UVA is as good as many people think.

I am probably too critical of UVA, but they struggled against Robert Morris and Highpoint, especially to clear the ball and play consistent defense. I watched both games. They were fun to watch, but they influenced my opinion of UVA as a team in progress that needs to clean up some major parts of their play. Their defense is young and they make mistakes with too many penalties, sliding, coverage, and clearing. They cleaned a lot of it up against ND, but I don't think ND is at the same level as UNC and Duke. Time will tell how good UVA and ND are. I think SU is in the middle tier of the ACC, with ND and UVA at the bottom. I would love to see Maryland and Rutgers play against these teams. The entire ACC is still top 10 so it is still very impressive.

Week 7 Media Poll: https://www.insidelacrosse.com/league/DI/polls

Division I Media Poll
Rank Team Points Prev
1 Duke (9 - 0) 422 (9) 2
2 North Carolina (8 - 0) 417 (7) 1
3 Maryland (6 - 0) 415 (6) 3
4 Syracuse (4 - 2) 357 4
5 Denver (7 - 2) 324 7
6 Virginia (7 - 2) 323 9
7 Army (4 - 1) 311 8
8 Rutgers (4 - 2) 287 5
9 Notre Dame (4 - 1) 281 6
10 Georgetown (6 - 1) 245 11
10 Lehigh (4 - 0) 245 10
12 Delaware (6 - 1) 159 14
13 Vermont (4 - 2) 124 15
14 Navy (3 - 0) 114 16
15 Hofstra (4 - 1) 113 19
16 Ohio State (3 - 3) 108 17
17 Richmond (4 - 3) 104 20
18 Loyola (4 - 3) 79 12
19 UMass (2 - 1) 54 13
20 UAlbany (4 - 2) 40 21
Receiving Votes:

Stony Brook, Bryant, Penn State, Johns Hopkins, Boston University, Villanova, Towson, Penn, High Point, Marist

Massey ratings: https://www.masseyratings.com/clax/11590/ratings

Interesting that Georgetown is still #4 and Villanova is 13, and JHU is 16 and PSU is 19. Conference rating definitely influence the rating more than record.

Rank Team Record Rat Pwr Off Def HFA SoS SSF EW EL
1 Duke 9-0 1 1 3 4 0.7 27 11 2.98 2.02
2 Maryland 6-0 2 2 2 5 0.74 13 16 3.34 0.66
3 North Carolina 8-0 3 3 1 9 0.73 29 14 2.74 2.26
4 Georgetown 6-1 4 5 12 1 0.73 30 28 3.83 1.17
5 Denver 7-2 5 6 9 7 0.73 21 20 3 1
6 Syracuse 4-2 6 4 4 11 0.71 16 6 3.83 2.17
7 Virginia 7-2 7 8 6 14 0.72 15 10 3.5 2.5
8 Army 4-1 8 12 27 3 0.73 19 18 2.36 1.64
9 Notre Dame 4-1 9 7 14 2 0.71 47 13 1.97 3.03
10 Rutgers 4-2 10 10 7 19 0.71 6 12 2.7 1.3
11 Lehigh 4-0 13 15 15 13 0.72 50 42 4.39 1.61
12 Loyola MD 4-3 16 14 22 6 0.74 32 26 3.3 1.7
13 Villanova 3-2 17 18 24 12 0.68 20 19 3.09 1.91
14 Richmond 4-3 18 17 29 8 0.68 28 32 2.84 1.16
15 Ohio St 3-3 19 19 18 20 0.64 14 9 1.64 2.36
16 Johns Hopkins 2-3 20 20 26 17 0.67 10 7 2.18 2.82
17 Navy 3-0 22 25 41 10 0.71 59 30 2.45 3.55
18 Massachusetts 2-1 23 23 37 15 0.72 35 31 3.41 2.59
19 Penn St 1-4 24 21 20 22 0.7 8 8 2.31 2.69
20 Boston Univ 5-1 25 26 32 25 0.72 60 49 2.52 1.48
21 Vermont 4-2 26 28 28 32 0.71 51 48 3.45 1.55
22 SUNY Albany 4-2 27 24 19 33 0.69 43 50 5.05 1.95
23 Bryant 5-1 28 34 38 29 0.75 56 60 3.82 1.18
24 Delaware 6-1 30 33 30 39 0.69 58 46 2.6 2.4
25 Drexel 3-2 31 27 16 45 0.73 41 38 2.78 2.22
26 Stony Brook 5-3 32 31 21 43 0.78 48 53 3.79 1.21
27 Hofstra 4-1 33 29 23 35 0.69 65 47 3.86 3.14
28 Providence 3-5 34 32 34 31 0.66 23 21 1.9 2.1
29 Towson 3-5 35 35 45 21 0.68 17 23 3.01 2.99
30 Jacksonville 5-3 36 40 42 42 0.7 34 39 2.62 2.38
31 High Point 2-5 37 37 13 68 0.73 5 22 2.62 1.38
32 Robert Morris 3-5 38 38 17 60 0.73 22 25 2.9 3.1
33 Marquette 1-5 39 36 43 27 0.7 12 15 0.92 3.08
34 Michigan 1-5 40 41 36 49 0.68 4 3 0.82 3.18
35 Bucknell 1-3 42 42 33 53 0.68 24 35 3.4 2.6
36 UMBC 4-1 43 45 53 28 0.7 62 54 2.88 3.12
37 St Joseph's PA 4-3 44 44 48 34 0.69 55 59 2.49 1.51
38 Hobart & Smith 2-1 45 43 35 54 0.71 64 64 2.56 1.44
39 Marist 1-0 46 47 46 51 0.7 71 72 3.83 1.17
40 Air Force 2-5 47 50 55 37 0.7 11 27 2.21 2.79
41 Colgate 1-4 48 48 39 57 0.68 31 34 1.19 1.81
42 Utah 2-5 49 46 50 40 0.7 49 36 1.42 3.58
43 Mercer 3-5 50 49 49 48 0.68 39 44 2.51 2.49
44 Fairfield 2-4 51 51 40 61 0.65 44 37 1.34 3.66
45 Holy Cross 1-4 52 52 56 36 0.65 26 33 1.4 1.6
46 Binghamton 2-2 53 56 63 44 0.68 54 61 2.55 2.45
47 Cleveland St 1-4 54 53 62 41 0.7 33 51 2.76 2.24
48 LIU Post 5-1 55 58 51 69 0.77 73 65 1.42 2.58
49 St John's 1-4 56 59 47 72 0.65 7 5 0.34 3.66
50 Merrimack 2-4 58 55 54 55 0.72 57 62 2.04 1.96
51 Manhattan 3-1 59 65 71 47 0.72 68 68 1.91 2.09
52 Monmouth NJ 3-1 60 66 70 50 0.71 69 73 2.31 1.69
53 Mt St Mary's 1-8 61 57 65 46 0.65 42 74 9.24 2.76
54 Bellarmine 2-8 62 61 66 52 0.65 40 45 1.68 3.32
55 Detroit 2-2 63 62 59 63 0.72 66 66 2.05 1.95
56 Sacred Heart 1-7 64 63 61 59 0.68 53 58 1.74 2.26
57 Canisius 2-1 65 68 67 66 0.69 74 71 1.9 2.1
58 Lafayette 0-5 66 60 57 64 0.69 36 29 1.04 5.96
59 Hartford 0-4 67 64 60 65 0.68 45 56 1.99 3.01
60 VMI 1-4 68 70 58 73 0.65 46 57 1.62 4.38
61 St Bonaventure 1-3 69 67 68 56 0.69 70 70 1.93 2.07
62 Quinnipiac 1-1 70 72 72 62 0.67 67 67 2.21 3.79
63 MA Lowell 1-4 71 71 64 71 0.66 61 55 0.88 4.12
64 NJIT 1-5 72 73 73 70 0.64 37 41 0.6 4.4
65 Siena 0-4 73 69 69 67 0.7 72 69 1.85 3.15
66 Wagner 0-6 74 74 74 74 0.65 52 52 0.3 3.7

Quint ranks Denver 10 and the media poll is at 5. Hmm. He also pointed out in his ranking that TD wore number 60, which means one thing. He did not see the game but rather the Instagram clip from practice. I know his job is to be unliked and a pot stirrer, but please, at least get the numbers right.

DU-fan wrote: ↑Mon Mar 29, 2021 9:32 am Week 7 Media Poll: https://www.insidelacrosse.com/league/DI/polls

Division I Media Poll
Rank Team Points Prev
1 Duke (9 - 0) 422 (9) 2
2 North Carolina (8 - 0) 417 (7) 1
3 Maryland (6 - 0) 415 (6) 3
4 Syracuse (4 - 2) 357 4
5 Denver (7 - 2) 324 7
6 Virginia (7 - 2) 323 9
7 Army (4 - 1) 311 8
8 Rutgers (4 - 2) 287 5
9 Notre Dame (4 - 1) 281 6
10 Georgetown (6 - 1) 245 11
10 Lehigh (4 - 0) 245 10
12 Delaware (6 - 1) 159 14
13 Vermont (4 - 2) 124 15
14 Navy (3 - 0) 114 16
15 Hofstra (4 - 1) 113 19
16 Ohio State (3 - 3) 108 17
17 Richmond (4 - 3) 104 20
18 Loyola (4 - 3) 79 12
19 UMass (2 - 1) 54 13
20 UAlbany (4 - 2) 40 21
Receiving Votes:

Stony Brook, Bryant, Penn State, Johns Hopkins, Boston University, Villanova, Towson, Penn, High Point, Marist

A. Penn???
B. I don’t think I’m ready to die on the hill on this but really starting to feel like Bryant and Boston U should be in there at the bottom and it seems like they aren’t even at the top of the next cohort receiving consideration still.

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Mon Mar 29, 2021 9:42 pm
B. I don’t think I’m ready to die on the hill on this but really starting to feel like Bryant and Boston U should be in there at the bottom and it seems like they aren’t even at the top of the next cohort receiving consideration still.

Doing the FanLax Forum poll, I had to stop at 18 because I really couldn't differentiate much beyond that. I did put Bryant in there. LIU wasn't an option (wasn't in the drop down menu), but I would have put them in my Top 20.

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Mon Mar 29, 2021 9:42 pm

DU-fan wrote: ↑Mon Mar 29, 2021 9:32 am Week 7 Media Poll: https://www.insidelacrosse.com/league/DI/polls

Division I Media Poll
Rank Team Points Prev
1 Duke (9 - 0) 422 (9) 2
2 North Carolina (8 - 0) 417 (7) 1
3 Maryland (6 - 0) 415 (6) 3
4 Syracuse (4 - 2) 357 4
5 Denver (7 - 2) 324 7
6 Virginia (7 - 2) 323 9
7 Army (4 - 1) 311 8
8 Rutgers (4 - 2) 287 5
9 Notre Dame (4 - 1) 281 6
10 Georgetown (6 - 1) 245 11
10 Lehigh (4 - 0) 245 10
12 Delaware (6 - 1) 159 14
13 Vermont (4 - 2) 124 15
14 Navy (3 - 0) 114 16
15 Hofstra (4 - 1) 113 19
16 Ohio State (3 - 3) 108 17
17 Richmond (4 - 3) 104 20
18 Loyola (4 - 3) 79 12
19 UMass (2 - 1) 54 13
20 UAlbany (4 - 2) 40 21
Receiving Votes:

Stony Brook, Bryant, Penn State, Johns Hopkins, Boston University, Villanova, Towson, Penn, High Point, Marist

A. Penn???
B. I don’t think I’m ready to die on the hill on this but really starting to feel like Bryant and Boston U should be in there at the bottom and it seems like they aren’t even at the top of the next cohort receiving consideration still.

It does make you wonder how much the media is really paying attention. Maybe they meant to say Penn State and typed it wrong? Or they are still in Ivy league denial?

Coaches Poll. This one has Bryant and BU. But, Princeton too

https://usila.org/

Team (First-Place Votes) Rank Record Points Last Week
Duke (10) 1 9-0 407 2
North Carolina (7) 2 7-0 398 1
Maryland (4) 3 6-0 392 3
Syracuse 4 3-2 334 4
Virginia 5 7-2 310 9
Denver 6 7-2 295 8
Army 7 4-1 292 7
Rutgers 8 4-2 287 5
Notre Dame 9 4-1 266 6
Georgetown 10 6-1 232 10
Lehigh 11 4-0 229 11
Delaware 12 6-1 152 14
Richmond 13 4-3 112 20
Ohio State 14 3-3 111 15
Loyola 15 4-3 108 12
Vermont 16 4-2 91 16
Navy 17 3-0 88 18
Massachusetts 18 2-1 52 13
Penn State 19 2-4 47 N/R
Stony Brooke 20 5-3 40 N/R

Also receiving votes: Johns Hopkins (39), Villanova (30), Bryant (27), Hofstra (26), Albany (NY) (23), Boston University (8), UMBC (5), High Point (3), Towson (3), Marist (2), Drexel (2), Hobart (2), Manhattan (1), and Princeton (1).

It does make you wonder how much the media is really paying attention. Maybe they meant to say Penn State and typed it wrong? Or they are still in Ivy league denial?

I believe Penn is planning to play.

Denver14 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 12:41 pm

It does make you wonder how much the media is really paying attention. Maybe they meant to say Penn State and typed it wrong? Or they are still in Ivy league denial?

I believe Penn is planning to play.

I'm also planning on playing and going back to college this season too.
We'll see if it ever happens.