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Re: Tiers in addition to Polls

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 3:57 pm
by watcherinthewoods
@inthe8m wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 3:40 pm tier 1: unc, bc
tier 2: <If you like piña coladas, And gettin' caught in the rain ..>
tier 3: nw, sb, jmu, cuse, mary, loyola
tier 4: uf, denver, prince, duke
tier 5: middlebury, f&m, salisbury, tcnj, spsg, glenelg
No LOVE for Queens? They are having quite a little season down there in Charlotte!

Re: Tiers in addition to Polls

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 3:59 pm
by wlaxphan20
watcherinthewoods wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 3:57 pm
@inthe8m wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 3:40 pm tier 1: unc, bc
tier 2: <If you like piña coladas, And gettin' caught in the rain ..>
tier 3: nw, sb, jmu, cuse, mary, loyola
tier 4: uf, denver, prince, duke
tier 5: middlebury, f&m, salisbury, tcnj, spsg, glenelg
No LOVE for Queens? They are having quite a little season down there in Charlotte!
They are! D2 still the ugly stepsister though

Re: Tiers in addition to Polls

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 4:05 pm
by @inthe8m
watcherinthewoods wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 3:57 pm
@inthe8m wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 3:40 pm tier 1: unc, bc
tier 2: <If you like piña coladas, And gettin' caught in the rain ..>
tier 3: nw, sb, jmu, cuse, mary, loyola
tier 4: uf, denver, prince, duke
tier 5: middlebury, f&m, salisbury, tcnj, spsg, glenelg
No LOVE for Queens? They are having quite a little season down there in Charlotte!
I took it under consideration. But, I am one of those snobs that would rather see a kid go D3 and get a fantastic education rather than wander into the wasteland that is D2.

Re: Updated Tiers 4/14

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 4:18 pm
by OuttaNowhereWregget
laxer12 wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 2:57 pm Haha you seem to contradict yourself far more than you realize. You stated previously that you thought Northwestern was a better team than Syracuse SOLELY because NU won the head to head against them in overtime… totally disregarding anything that occurred in the game that lead to that result… all you cared about was the result. Now you’re stating that even though the SU and UNC matchup was a two-goal result and the game was just about as close as it possibly could be either way, you state that it’s not solely about the numbers; that the stats don’t relay the whole story of how a game went. That somehow UNC was by far the better team that day. You can’t have it both ways. Either take everything into account (the eye test and statistical evidence) or pick one standard to go by. You always seem to seize the opportunity when one arises to unfairly criticize Syracuse or just disregard them altogether.
I wouldn’t put it past me. After all, I am human. My opinions change and my rationale changes—from player to player and game to game sometimes. It’s sports. I endeavor to be fair and objective but sometimes a personal bias will creep in. Sometimes I enjoy my personal biases. All part of being a member of the human race.

And again, I invite you to post your own tiers and the discussion will grow.

Re: Tiers in addition to Polls

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:00 pm
by RedFromMI
@inthe8m wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 4:05 pm
watcherinthewoods wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 3:57 pm
@inthe8m wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 3:40 pm tier 1: unc, bc
tier 2: <If you like piña coladas, And gettin' caught in the rain ..>
tier 3: nw, sb, jmu, cuse, mary, loyola
tier 4: uf, denver, prince, duke
tier 5: middlebury, f&m, salisbury, tcnj, spsg, glenelg
No LOVE for Queens? They are having quite a little season down there in Charlotte!
I took it under consideration. But, I am one of those snobs that would rather see a kid go D3 and get a fantastic education rather than wander into the wasteland that is D2.
I don't think it is quite the wasteland you are portraying it as - and already in wlax you have Lindenwood and Stonehill starting with D1 schedules next year as they make the transition up. Queens is, according to all my sources, going to move up as well, but as of yet has not made the announcement.

Re: Tiers in addition to Polls

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:03 pm
by wlaxphan20
@inthe8m wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 4:05 pm
watcherinthewoods wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 3:57 pm
@inthe8m wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 3:40 pm tier 1: unc, bc
tier 2: <If you like piña coladas, And gettin' caught in the rain ..>
tier 3: nw, sb, jmu, cuse, mary, loyola
tier 4: uf, denver, prince, duke
tier 5: middlebury, f&m, salisbury, tcnj, spsg, glenelg
No LOVE for Queens? They are having quite a little season down there in Charlotte!
I took it under consideration. But, I am one of those snobs that would rather see a kid go D3 and get a fantastic education rather than wander into the wasteland that is D2.
Are you referring to D2 as an academic wasteland or an athletic one? Or both?

Re: Tiers in addition to Polls

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:01 pm
by Bart
@inthe8m wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 4:05 pm
watcherinthewoods wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 3:57 pm
@inthe8m wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 3:40 pm tier 1: unc, bc
tier 2: <If you like piña coladas, And gettin' caught in the rain ..>
tier 3: nw, sb, jmu, cuse, mary, loyola
tier 4: uf, denver, prince, duke
tier 5: middlebury, f&m, salisbury, tcnj, spsg, glenelg
No LOVE for Queens? They are having quite a little season down there in Charlotte!
I took it under consideration. But, I am one of those snobs that would rather see a kid go D3 and get a fantastic education rather than wander into the wasteland that is D2.
I have to agree with you...that may be one of the snobbiest posts I have read here in quite some time. Congrats.

Re: Tiers in addition to Polls

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:09 pm
by Seacoaster(1)
Bart wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:01 pm
@inthe8m wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 4:05 pm
watcherinthewoods wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 3:57 pm
@inthe8m wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 3:40 pm tier 1: unc, bc
tier 2: <If you like piña coladas, And gettin' caught in the rain ..>
tier 3: nw, sb, jmu, cuse, mary, loyola
tier 4: uf, denver, prince, duke
tier 5: middlebury, f&m, salisbury, tcnj, spsg, glenelg
No LOVE for Queens? They are having quite a little season down there in Charlotte!
I took it under consideration. But, I am one of those snobs that would rather see a kid go D3 and get a fantastic education rather than wander into the wasteland that is D2.
I have to agree with you...that may be one of the snobbiest posts I have read here in quite some time. Congrats.
Yep, the Jesuits at Lemoyne would have a rueful chuckle at that post.

Re: Tiers in addition to Polls

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 7:13 pm
by Dr. Tact
@inthe8m wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 3:40 pm tier 1: unc, bc
tier 2: <If you like piña coladas, And gettin' caught in the rain ..>
tier 3: nw, sb, jmu, cuse, mary, loyola
tier 4: uf, denver, prince, duke
tier 5: middlebury, f&m, salisbury, tcnj, spsg, glenelg
I like this ^^^^ can I add York?

Re: Tiers in addition to Polls

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 8:55 pm
by hmmm
@inthe8m wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 3:40 pm tier 1: unc, bc
tier 2: <If you like piña coladas, And gettin' caught in the rain ..>
tier 3: nw, sb, jmu, cuse, mary, loyola
tier 4: uf, denver, prince, duke
tier 5: middlebury, f&m, salisbury, tcnj, spsg, glenelg
I appreciate the inclusion of SPSG but you have them too low. :lol:

Re: Tiers in addition to Polls

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 9:45 pm
by @inthe8m
Bart wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:01 pm
@inthe8m wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 4:05 pm
watcherinthewoods wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 3:57 pm
@inthe8m wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 3:40 pm tier 1: unc, bc
tier 2: <If you like piña coladas, And gettin' caught in the rain ..>
tier 3: nw, sb, jmu, cuse, mary, loyola
tier 4: uf, denver, prince, duke
tier 5: middlebury, f&m, salisbury, tcnj, spsg, glenelg
No LOVE for Queens? They are having quite a little season down there in Charlotte!
I took it under consideration. But, I am one of those snobs that would rather see a kid go D3 and get a fantastic education rather than wander into the wasteland that is D2.
I have to agree with you...that may be one of the snobbiest posts I have read here in quite some time. Congrats.
Academics is important to me. But, my father also reminded me rather frequently that ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiRGRvE_Wqg

Re: Tiers in addition to Polls

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 9:48 pm
by @inthe8m
Dr. Tact wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 7:13 pm
@inthe8m wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 3:40 pm tier 1: unc, bc
tier 2: <If you like piña coladas, And gettin' caught in the rain ..>
tier 3: nw, sb, jmu, cuse, mary, loyola
tier 4: uf, denver, prince, duke
tier 5: middlebury, f&m, salisbury, tcnj, spsg, glenelg
I like this ^^^^ can I add York?
Sure, you can. I had them under consideration, but the goal differential in the loss to Gettysburg gave me pause. York has a chance to displace Salisbury if they win the head to head this weekend.

Re: Tiers in addition to Polls

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 9:49 pm
by @inthe8m
hmmm wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 8:55 pm
@inthe8m wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 3:40 pm tier 1: unc, bc
tier 2: <If you like piña coladas, And gettin' caught in the rain ..>
tier 3: nw, sb, jmu, cuse, mary, loyola
tier 4: uf, denver, prince, duke
tier 5: middlebury, f&m, salisbury, tcnj, spsg, glenelg
I appreciate the inclusion of SPSG but you have them too low. :lol:
I have some concerns about their third line attack players - otherwise, they would have been in tier 4.

Re: Tiers in addition to Polls

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:00 pm
by Bart
@inthe8m wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 9:45 pm
Bart wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:01 pm
@inthe8m wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 4:05 pm
watcherinthewoods wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 3:57 pm
@inthe8m wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 3:40 pm tier 1: unc, bc
tier 2: <If you like piña coladas, And gettin' caught in the rain ..>
tier 3: nw, sb, jmu, cuse, mary, loyola
tier 4: uf, denver, prince, duke
tier 5: middlebury, f&m, salisbury, tcnj, spsg, glenelg
No LOVE for Queens? They are having quite a little season down there in Charlotte!
I took it under consideration. But, I am one of those snobs that would rather see a kid go D3 and get a fantastic education rather than wander into the wasteland that is D2.
I have to agree with you...that may be one of the snobbiest posts I have read here in quite some time. Congrats.
Academics is important to me. But, my father also reminded me rather frequently that ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiRGRvE_Wqg
Ha. Doubling down. Nice. But since I graduated from one of those type of D3 schools and currently work at a D3 school that prides itself on its academics I can assure you there are ditch diggers, as you say, at almost all schools. Education is what you make of it whether you are at a snobitorium in the north east or a crappy D2 school. Lots of liberal arts D3 graduates working at Starbucks. The most important aspect at any school is the intellectual curiosity of the particular student. You get out of it what you put in.

Re: Tiers in addition to Polls

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:10 pm
by @inthe8m
Bart wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:00 pm
@inthe8m wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 9:45 pm
Bart wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:01 pm
@inthe8m wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 4:05 pm
watcherinthewoods wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 3:57 pm
@inthe8m wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 3:40 pm tier 1: unc, bc
tier 2: <If you like piña coladas, And gettin' caught in the rain ..>
tier 3: nw, sb, jmu, cuse, mary, loyola
tier 4: uf, denver, prince, duke
tier 5: middlebury, f&m, salisbury, tcnj, spsg, glenelg
No LOVE for Queens? They are having quite a little season down there in Charlotte!
I took it under consideration. But, I am one of those snobs that would rather see a kid go D3 and get a fantastic education rather than wander into the wasteland that is D2.
I have to agree with you...that may be one of the snobbiest posts I have read here in quite some time. Congrats.
Academics is important to me. But, my father also reminded me rather frequently that ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiRGRvE_Wqg
Ha. Doubling down. Nice. But since I graduated from one of those type of D3 schools and currently work at a D3 school that prides itself on its academics I can assure you there are ditch diggers, as you say, at almost all schools. Education is what you make of it whether you are at a snobitorium in the north east or a crappy D2 school. Lots of liberal arts D3 graduates working at Starbucks. The most important aspect at any school is the intellectual curiosity of the particular student. You get out of it what you put in.
Agree 100%. I just could not pass up the opportunity to inject a Caddyshack reference.

Re: Tiers in addition to Polls

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:14 pm
by Bart
@inthe8m wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:10 pm
Bart wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:00 pm
@inthe8m wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 9:45 pm
Bart wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:01 pm
@inthe8m wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 4:05 pm
watcherinthewoods wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 3:57 pm
@inthe8m wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 3:40 pm tier 1: unc, bc
tier 2: <If you like piña coladas, And gettin' caught in the rain ..>
tier 3: nw, sb, jmu, cuse, mary, loyola
tier 4: uf, denver, prince, duke
tier 5: middlebury, f&m, salisbury, tcnj, spsg, glenelg
No LOVE for Queens? They are having quite a little season down there in Charlotte!
I took it under consideration. But, I am one of those snobs that would rather see a kid go D3 and get a fantastic education rather than wander into the wasteland that is D2.
I have to agree with you...that may be one of the snobbiest posts I have read here in quite some time. Congrats.
Academics is important to me. But, my father also reminded me rather frequently that ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiRGRvE_Wqg
Ha. Doubling down. Nice. But since I graduated from one of those type of D3 schools and currently work at a D3 school that prides itself on its academics I can assure you there are ditch diggers, as you say, at almost all schools. Education is what you make of it whether you are at a snobitorium in the north east or a crappy D2 school. Lots of liberal arts D3 graduates working at Starbucks. The most important aspect at any school is the intellectual curiosity of the particular student. You get out of it what you put in.
Agree 100%. I just could not pass up the opportunity to inject a Caddyshack reference.
Absolutely nothing wrong with a Caddyshack reference. It was well played.

Re: Updated Tiers 4/14

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 12:20 pm
by laxer12
OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 4:18 pm
laxer12 wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 2:57 pm Haha you seem to contradict yourself far more than you realize. You stated previously that you thought Northwestern was a better team than Syracuse SOLELY because NU won the head to head against them in overtime… totally disregarding anything that occurred in the game that lead to that result… all you cared about was the result. Now you’re stating that even though the SU and UNC matchup was a two-goal result and the game was just about as close as it possibly could be either way, you state that it’s not solely about the numbers; that the stats don’t relay the whole story of how a game went. That somehow UNC was by far the better team that day. You can’t have it both ways. Either take everything into account (the eye test and statistical evidence) or pick one standard to go by. You always seem to seize the opportunity when one arises to unfairly criticize Syracuse or just disregard them altogether.
I wouldn’t put it past me. After all, I am human. My opinions change and my rationale changes—from player to player and game to game sometimes. It’s sports. I endeavor to be fair and objective but sometimes a personal bias will creep in. Sometimes I enjoy my personal biases. All part of being a member of the human race.

And again, I invite you to post your own tiers and the discussion will grow.
Great -- so you admit you're biased against Syracuse. Glad we got that resolved.

I post (in order) whom I think are the best teams every week in the fanlax forum poll. That is enough for me.

Re: Updated Tiers 4/14

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 12:29 pm
by OuttaNowhereWregget
laxer12 wrote: Fri Apr 15, 2022 12:20 pm
OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 4:18 pm
laxer12 wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 2:57 pm Haha you seem to contradict yourself far more than you realize. You stated previously that you thought Northwestern was a better team than Syracuse SOLELY because NU won the head to head against them in overtime… totally disregarding anything that occurred in the game that lead to that result… all you cared about was the result. Now you’re stating that even though the SU and UNC matchup was a two-goal result and the game was just about as close as it possibly could be either way, you state that it’s not solely about the numbers; that the stats don’t relay the whole story of how a game went. That somehow UNC was by far the better team that day. You can’t have it both ways. Either take everything into account (the eye test and statistical evidence) or pick one standard to go by. You always seem to seize the opportunity when one arises to unfairly criticize Syracuse or just disregard them altogether.
I wouldn’t put it past me. After all, I am human. My opinions change and my rationale changes—from player to player and game to game sometimes. It’s sports. I endeavor to be fair and objective but sometimes a personal bias will creep in. Sometimes I enjoy my personal biases. All part of being a member of the human race.

And again, I invite you to post your own tiers and the discussion will grow.
Great -- so you admit you're biased against Syracuse. Glad we got that resolved.

I post (in order) whom I think are the best teams every week in the fanlax forum poll. That is enough for me.
Uh, no. If you read the entirety of what I wrote instead of cherry picking what you think I believe, then you would realize that your conclusion is unfounded.

Re: Updated Tiers 4/14

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 12:43 pm
by laxer12
OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: Fri Apr 15, 2022 12:29 pm
laxer12 wrote: Fri Apr 15, 2022 12:20 pm
OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 4:18 pm
laxer12 wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 2:57 pm Haha you seem to contradict yourself far more than you realize. You stated previously that you thought Northwestern was a better team than Syracuse SOLELY because NU won the head to head against them in overtime… totally disregarding anything that occurred in the game that lead to that result… all you cared about was the result. Now you’re stating that even though the SU and UNC matchup was a two-goal result and the game was just about as close as it possibly could be either way, you state that it’s not solely about the numbers; that the stats don’t relay the whole story of how a game went. That somehow UNC was by far the better team that day. You can’t have it both ways. Either take everything into account (the eye test and statistical evidence) or pick one standard to go by. You always seem to seize the opportunity when one arises to unfairly criticize Syracuse or just disregard them altogether.
I wouldn’t put it past me. After all, I am human. My opinions change and my rationale changes—from player to player and game to game sometimes. It’s sports. I endeavor to be fair and objective but sometimes a personal bias will creep in. Sometimes I enjoy my personal biases. All part of being a member of the human race.

And again, I invite you to post your own tiers and the discussion will grow.
Great -- so you admit you're biased against Syracuse. Glad we got that resolved.

I post (in order) whom I think are the best teams every week in the fanlax forum poll. That is enough for me.
Uh, no. If you read the entirety of what I wrote instead of cherry picking what you think I believe, then you would realize that your conclusion is unfounded.
My conclusion has been founded upon your innumerable posts that either criticize, disregard, or disparage Syracuse's players, program, and head coaches.

Re: Tiers in addition to Polls

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 12:55 pm
by Dr. Tact
@inthe8m wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 9:48 pm
Dr. Tact wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 7:13 pm
@inthe8m wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 3:40 pm tier 1: unc, bc
tier 2: <If you like piña coladas, And gettin' caught in the rain ..>
tier 3: nw, sb, jmu, cuse, mary, loyola
tier 4: uf, denver, prince, duke
tier 5: middlebury, f&m, salisbury, tcnj, spsg, glenelg
I like this ^^^^ can I add York?
Sure, you can. I had them under consideration, but the goal differential in the loss to Gettysburg gave me pause. York has a chance to displace Salisbury if they win the head to head this weekend.
I was just teasing.....the game tomorrow will be tough. I think Salisbury wins by 6