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Re: Johns Hopkins Coach Search

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2020 6:12 pm
by CU77
And make of this what you will: from a poster on the Cornell sports board:
Milliman's scheduled to host a men's lacrosse town hall on Zoom tomorrow night at 7.

Re: Johns Hopkins Coach Search

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2020 6:23 pm
by Farfromgeneva
DocBarrister wrote: Sun Apr 26, 2020 5:50 pm Galloway?

Interesting choice if true.

Not at all the “safe” choice (Nadelen).

This would be one of those legacy-gambling, job-wagering, career-defining, this-is-all-on-you-if-things-go-bad type selections.

No doubt, Coach Galloway is a serious young coach with big ambitions. Jacksonville’s new lacrosse center is a physical manifestation of that.

DocBarrister
You really, truly believe anyone’s job would be in jeopardy if Galloway were to flame out? To me it’s a riskless, no skin in the game, asymmetric upside move. If anything the “safe” Nadalen choice is the lower upside pick. He may be a very good coach but is he likely to win more than 2 titles in 15yrs at Hop?

Re: Johns Hopkins Coach Search

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2020 6:27 pm
by jrn19
Farfromgeneva wrote: Sun Apr 26, 2020 6:23 pm
DocBarrister wrote: Sun Apr 26, 2020 5:50 pm Galloway?

Interesting choice if true.

Not at all the “safe” choice (Nadelen).

This would be one of those legacy-gambling, job-wagering, career-defining, this-is-all-on-you-if-things-go-bad type selections.

No doubt, Coach Galloway is a serious young coach with big ambitions. Jacksonville’s new lacrosse center is a physical manifestation of that.

DocBarrister
You really, truly believe anyone’s job would be in jeopardy if Galloway were to flame out? To me it’s a riskless, no skin in the game, asymmetric upside move. If anything the “safe” Nadalen choice is the lower upside pick. He may be a very good coach but is he likely to win more than 2 titles in 15yrs at Hop?
Hopkins just fired maybe the most beloved person in the history of the program, maybe the best coach in the history of the program. If they replace him with a guy who’s best season is 8-7 at Jacksonville, where he’s 10 games below .500 overall, that would likely enrage the alums and the fanbase. Nadelen isn’t the “safe” pick, he’s the best coach available who also happens to be a Hopkins alum. If they can’t bring in that guy, and instead have to settle for an unproven 30 year old who’s highest coaching position was the SoCon, that’s putting a ton of pressure on the AD and people who ran the search to better hope they’re right. Because if that hire fails, you’re probably not getting the chance to hire a second one

Re: Johns Hopkins Coach Search

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2020 6:32 pm
by DocBarrister
Farfromgeneva wrote: Sun Apr 26, 2020 6:23 pm
DocBarrister wrote: Sun Apr 26, 2020 5:50 pm Galloway?

Interesting choice if true.

Not at all the “safe” choice (Nadelen).

This would be one of those legacy-gambling, job-wagering, career-defining, this-is-all-on-you-if-things-go-bad type selections.

No doubt, Coach Galloway is a serious young coach with big ambitions. Jacksonville’s new lacrosse center is a physical manifestation of that.

DocBarrister
You really, truly believe anyone’s job would be in jeopardy if Galloway were to flame out? To me it’s a riskless, no skin in the game, asymmetric upside move. If anything the “safe” Nadalen choice is the lower upside pick. He may be a very good coach but is he likely to win more than 2 titles in 15yrs at Hop?
Missing the NCAA tournament can be a firing offense at Hopkins. If Galloway is the new head coach, they are hiring someone who has never reached the NCAA tournament as a head coach and who has an overall losing record.

If Galloway is indeed hired and he “doesn’t work out,” yeah, I think the AD would come under some “pressure” to resign.

DocBarrister

Re: Johns Hopkins Coach Search

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2020 6:33 pm
by Farfromgeneva
Spoken like someone under 30.

And clearly out of touch with the reality that only on lacrosse boards is this decision that important. Come check in with me when they lose some big gift research grants and the BOT and President get sh*%#canned thisfast.

Re: Johns Hopkins Coach Search

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2020 6:38 pm
by CU77
jrn19 wrote: Sun Apr 26, 2020 6:27 pm Hopkins just fired maybe the most beloved person in the history of the program, maybe the best coach in the history of the program.
Both of those comments are delusional.
jrn19 wrote: Sun Apr 26, 2020 6:27 pmIf they replace him with a guy who’s best season is 8-7 at Jacksonville, where he’s 10 games below .500 overall, that would likely enrage the alums and the fanbase.
Nope, the base will give him the benefit of the doubt, because they will have no other choice. And winning will erase all doubt.
jrn19 wrote: Sun Apr 26, 2020 6:27 pmNadelen isn’t the “safe” pick, he’s the best coach available who also happens to be a Hopkins alum. If they can’t bring in that guy, and instead have to settle for an unproven 30 year old who’s highest coaching position was the SoCon, that’s putting a ton of pressure on the AD and people who ran the search to better hope they’re right. Because if that hire fails, you’re probably not getting the chance to hire a second one
Ha, no. The forces that want lax to be a big deal at Hop are losing the overall war. Daniels and Baker are in charge now. If Galloway flames out in 5 years, Hop will get Galloway 2.0. Rinse and repeat until a young coach does not flame out.

That's if the Galloway rumors are true. I still wouldn't be surprised if Nadelen is announced on Monday. Or Milliman.

Re: Johns Hopkins Coach Search

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2020 6:43 pm
by Farfromgeneva
Thank you for some reason.

Re: Johns Hopkins Coach Search

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2020 6:43 pm
by jrn19
CU77 wrote: Sun Apr 26, 2020 6:38 pm
jrn19 wrote: Sun Apr 26, 2020 6:27 pm Hopkins just fired maybe the most beloved person in the history of the program, maybe the best coach in the history of the program.
Both of those comments are delusional.
jrn19 wrote: Sun Apr 26, 2020 6:27 pmIf they replace him with a guy who’s best season is 8-7 at Jacksonville, where he’s 10 games below .500 overall, that would likely enrage the alums and the fanbase.
Nope, the base will give him the benefit of the doubt, because they will have no other choice. And winning will erase all dobut.
jrn19 wrote: Sun Apr 26, 2020 6:27 pmNadelen isn’t the “safe” pick, he’s the best coach available who also happens to be a Hopkins alum. If they can’t bring in that guy, and instead have to settle for an unproven 30 year old who’s highest coaching position was the SoCon, that’s putting a ton of pressure on the AD and people who ran the search to better hope they’re right. Because if that hire fails, you’re probably not getting the chance to hire a second one
Ha, no. The forces that want lax to be a big deal at Hop are losing the overall war. Daniels and Baker are in charge now. If Galloway flames out in 5 years, Hop will get Galloway 2.0. Rinse and repeat until a young coach does not flame out.

That's if the Galloway rumors are true. I still wouldn't be surprised if Nadelen is announced on Monday. Or Milliman.
Yes, the absolute outpouring of love and support and thanks that Petro got from players and alums - both that he coached and ones that he didn't - means it's delusional to suggest he may be the most beloved person in the Hopkins lacrosse family. Also delusional to suggest that the guy who won two national titles and made 7 Final Fours during a way more difficult time to win than any of his predecessors had may be the best coach in program history. Sure. You got me pal.

Re: Johns Hopkins Coach Search

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2020 6:44 pm
by DocBarrister
Farfromgeneva wrote: Sun Apr 26, 2020 6:33 pm Spoken like someone under 30.

And clearly out of touch with the reality that only on lacrosse boards is this decision that important. Come check in with me when they lose some big gift research grants and the BOT and President get sh*%#canned thisfast.
You don’t really seem to understand Johns Hopkins as an institution. I love my alma mater, but compared to other universities that I have personal connections to, Johns Hopkins is a pretty demanding and unforgiving institution.

I think Petro’s two decades as a head coach is a very remarkable accomplishment at a very tough institution.

Heck, even the Division III teams are taken very seriously at Hopkins.

Win, or go home ... pretty much describes the entire university ... and that has been true since its founding.

DocBarrister

Re: Johns Hopkins Coach Search

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2020 6:44 pm
by Farfromgeneva
Can some older and more circumspect Hop alums step you’re and set this dude straight?

Re: Johns Hopkins Coach Search

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2020 6:47 pm
by DocBarrister
Farfromgeneva wrote: Sun Apr 26, 2020 6:44 pm Can some older and more circumspect Hop alums step you’re and set this dude straight?
You mean the Baby Boomers and Octogenarians?

:lol:

DocBarrister ;)

Re: Johns Hopkins Coach Search

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2020 6:49 pm
by Farfromgeneva
Isn’t that most of you? Whatever happened to 6569? Did he just drink too much red wine to not be able to find his way to FanLax?

Re: Johns Hopkins Coach Search

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2020 6:54 pm
by AreaLax
Chris Jastrzembski twitter
BREAKING: Cornell head coach Peter Milliman will become the next Johns Hopkins head coach, according to multiple sources.

Re: Johns Hopkins Coach Search

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2020 6:54 pm
by jrn19
https://twitter.com/Chris_Jast/status/1 ... 3712930818

Chris Jastrzembski reports it's Milliman

Re: Johns Hopkins Coach Search

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2020 7:01 pm
by DocBarrister
jrn19 wrote: Sun Apr 26, 2020 6:54 pm https://twitter.com/Chris_Jast/status/1 ... 3712930818

Chris Jastrzembski reports it's Milliman
:shock:

Ok, now THAT makes a lot more sense.

Plus, it clearly fulfills NCAA Prime Directive No. 13. ’Nuff said. ;)

DocBarrister 8-)

Re: Johns Hopkins Coach Search

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2020 7:05 pm
by CU77
Rats!

Re: Johns Hopkins Coach Search

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2020 7:09 pm
by Wheels
Underwhelming.

Nads is a better coach. Surprised they couldn't or wouldn't get him outta Towson.

Re: Johns Hopkins Coach Search

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2020 7:11 pm
by shaadb-man

Re: Johns Hopkins Coach Search

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2020 7:13 pm
by HopFan16
Wheels wrote: Sun Apr 26, 2020 7:09 pm Underwhelming.

Nads is a better coach. Surprised they couldn't or wouldn't get him outta Towson.
Nads is great, but how do we know if he's "better" than Milliman? Milliman went 13-5 and made the NCAA quarterfinals in his first year as head coach and in his third year, was 5-0 and ranked in the top 3. And that was coming off a very underwhelming period for Cornell lacrosse prior to his promotion to head coach.

Still digesting this news...initial reaction is I think it's pretty exciting.

Re: Johns Hopkins Coach Search

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2020 7:15 pm
by Laxsmitty
Per twitter Cornell Coach hired at Hopkins