Race in America - Riots Explode in Chicago

[ChairmanOfTheBoard]

How is this helpful?

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/29/trump-s ... using.html

Who does this statement appeal to?

You know to whom this statement appeals.

It’s Trump telling white suburbanites that he is going to do what he can to keep people of color out of their neighborhoods.

It’s a racist ploy straight out of the 1950s-1970s.

Trump understands his political base well.

DocBarrister

Embarrassing to even think that way doc.

This was briefly discussed Saturday morning.

viewtopic.php?p=170958#p170958

YA, everyone thinks that is exactly what Trump is messaging to people. Everyone. He is the White Folks candidate.

The assumption that blacks don’t live in suburbia, have property, or care about their homes or property values is incredibly racist. This is 2020, not 1970. If you don’t believe me, come on out to any suburb of Philly or Baltimore.

This tweet appealed to everyone who gtfo of cities and moved to suburbia to avoid the bull shirt that is happening IN the cities right now. Regardless of color.

if were talking assumptions, this entire thing is littered with assumptions.

for example- sure, some white people "start off better" than non-whites. but not all.

so what of the white person who starts behind the asian? south asian? (baby/bathwater scenario)

or, even these assumptions (there's more- many more): viewtopic.php?p=159708#p159708

conclusion: just treat everyone the same, we are all humans

[Typical Lax Dad]

How is this helpful?

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/29/trump-s ... using.html

Who does this statement appeal to?

You know to whom this statement appeals.

It’s Trump telling white suburbanites that he is going to do what he can to keep people of color out of their neighborhoods.

It’s a racist ploy straight out of the 1950s-1970s.

Trump understands his political base well.

DocBarrister

Embarrassing to even think that way doc.

This was briefly discussed Saturday morning.

viewtopic.php?p=170958#p170958

YA, everyone thinks that is exactly what Trump is messaging to people. Everyone. He is the White Folks candidate.

The assumption that blacks don’t live in suburbia, have property, or care about their homes or property values is incredibly racist. This is 2020, not 1970. If you don’t believe me, come on out to any suburb of Philly or Baltimore.

This tweet appealed to everyone who gtfo of cities and moved to suburbia to avoid the bull shirt that is happening IN the cities right now. Regardless of color.

Soon to be released film in August 2020

[Matnum PI]

Not in the least. Explain to me how that movement has anything to do with treating each other as equals?

A reality in america is that when a wealthy, white american is killed, the country is outraged and actions are taken. When a poor, black american is killed, we shrug. We write it off due to crime-infested neighborhoods, the victim was hardly a victim, etc. Bottom line, the deaths on either side of the fence are not treated equally. It's as if white lives... more.

[Typical Lax Dad]

Not in the least. Explain to me how that movement has anything to do with treating each other as equals?

A reality in america is that when a wealthy, white american is killed, the country is outraged and actions are taken. When a poor, black american is killed, we shrug. We write it off due to crime-infested neighborhoods, the victim was hardly a victim, etc. Bottom line, the deaths on either side of the fence are not treated equally. It's as if white lives... more.

https://womensmediacenter.com/news-feat ... -and-girls

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/11/03/us/m ... index.html

[holmes435]

Perhaps we just call the movement Poor Lives Matter and forget the fabricated White Privilege nonsense.

This is no longer the 19th Century, it's 2020. We have elected a black POTUS, twice. Why is this happening now? Trump for one, Covid for two.

A lot of people here have no idea what White Privilege actually means.

Have you ever been getting pulled over by a cop simply because of the color of your skin? Or been denied a bank loan because of the color of your skin? Or lost out on a job because of the color of your skin? Had the cops called while walking your dog? Or had people with guns think you're suspicious when you're out for a jog, or walking back from the store? Etc. etc.

White Privilege isn't some extra boost we get for being white that makes our lives a ton easier, it's that when we face obstacles, the color of our skin normally isn't a factor.

White Privilege isn't about the choices we make in our day to day lives, it's about the choices other people make concerning us based on the color of our skin.

[tech37]

I really disagree with anyone telling me that what I've done with my life is due to White Privilege and I should view everyone non-white, and their situation, from some sort of guilt-ridden purgatory. I view my position in relation to non-whites who have difficult lives just as I view poor whites who have difficult lives. Color has nothing to do with it. That's why, IMO, White Privilege and Fragility are invented racist concepts.

not that i agree nor disagree- but this is why i think the ultimate movement will not take hold with a portion of white voters, who rightly or wrongly think they have it just as bad or worse than others.

that, and we use the term racism to mean different things.

and lastly, if we don't treat each other as equals, i don't think we'll ever achieve bona fide equality.

How does BLM have anything to do with treating each other as equals? Please answer chairman.

i assume this was rhetorical?

Not in the least. Explain to me how that movement has anything to do with treating each other as equals?

i don't know. i don't have an answer for that. did i even say that?

"I don't know" will suffice, thank you. Seems to me that if the ultimate goal is to treat each other as equals, I'm not seeing it from that movement either.

[ChairmanOfTheBoard]

Not in the least. Explain to me how that movement has anything to do with treating each other as equals?

A reality in america is that when a wealthy, white american is killed, the country is outraged and actions are taken. When a poor, black american is killed, we shrug. We write it off due to crime-infested neighborhoods, the victim was hardly a victim, etc. Bottom line, the deaths on either side of the fence are not treated equally. It's as if white lives... more.

it's another reason to just treat everyone the same. fair rules, equitable, easy to remember. hard to administer of course.

in the eyes of science, at least, we are all the same- a human is a human is a human.

[ChairmanOfTheBoard]

I really disagree with anyone telling me that what I've done with my life is due to White Privilege and I should view everyone non-white, and their situation, from some sort of guilt-ridden purgatory. I view my position in relation to non-whites who have difficult lives just as I view poor whites who have difficult lives. Color has nothing to do with it. That's why, IMO, White Privilege and Fragility are invented racist concepts.

not that i agree nor disagree- but this is why i think the ultimate movement will not take hold with a portion of white voters, who rightly or wrongly think they have it just as bad or worse than others.

that, and we use the term racism to mean different things.

and lastly, if we don't treat each other as equals, i don't think we'll ever achieve bona fide equality.

How does BLM have anything to do with treating each other as equals? Please answer chairman.

i assume this was rhetorical?

Not in the least. Explain to me how that movement has anything to do with treating each other as equals?

i don't know. i don't have an answer for that. did i even say that?

"I don't know" will suffice, thank you. Seems to me that if the ultimate goal is to treat each other as equals, I'm not seeing it from that movement either.

i don't really know what their goals are- why not look at their mission statement?

https://blacklivesmatter.com/what-we-believe/

[old salt]

Democrats make everyone around them dumb, not the least being Democrats.

Bed And Breakfast Removes Norwegian Flag After People (Democrats) Mistake It For Confederate Flag


https://dailycaller.com/2020/07/29/bed- ... rate-flag/

Norwegian flag = white privilege signal

[Typical Lax Dad]

Not in the least. Explain to me how that movement has anything to do with treating each other as equals?

A reality in america is that when a wealthy, white american is killed, the country is outraged and actions are taken. When a poor, black american is killed, we shrug. We write it off due to crime-infested neighborhoods, the victim was hardly a victim, etc. Bottom line, the deaths on either side of the fence are not treated equally. It's as if white lives... more.

it's another reason to just treat everyone the same. fair rules, equitable, easy to remember. hard to administer of course.

in the eyes of science, at least, we are all the same- a human is a human is a human.

Like these: https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/aia/part4/4p2957.html

[seacoaster]

How is this helpful?

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/29/trump-s ... using.html

Who does this statement appeal to?

You know to whom this statement appeals.

It’s Trump telling white suburbanites that he is going to do what he can to keep people of color out of their neighborhoods.

It’s a racist ploy straight out of the 1950s-1970s.

Trump understands his political base well.

DocBarrister

Embarrassing to even think that way doc.

This was briefly discussed Saturday morning.

viewtopic.php?p=170958#p170958

YA, everyone thinks that is exactly what Trump is messaging to people. Everyone. He is the White Folks candidate.

Only racist and angry people believe that. If that were the case...why did he bother to pass legislation that supports black prisoners early releases. You guys make no damned sense. Use your heads from something other than a hat rack.

Thanks for calling me racist. Nice.

Take a look at the responses to Trump’s tweet.

[tech37]

Not in the least. Explain to me how that movement has anything to do with treating each other as equals?

A reality in america is that when a wealthy, white american is killed, the country is outraged and actions are taken. When a poor, black american is killed, we shrug. We write it off due to crime-infested neighborhoods, the victim was hardly a victim, etc. Bottom line, the deaths on either side of the fence are not treated equally. It's as if white lives... more.

Police brutality is a problem that has to be addressed and will be. It has also effected people of all races, not just blacks.

Who shrugs? BLM shrugs when black-on-black crime occurs every day. You only hear from them when an incident benefits them politically. Dem mayors of Democratic-run cities shrug as well, as the black-on-black crime goes unchallenged. The normal.

What's my "role" btw?

[Matnum PI]

Have you ever been getting pulled over by a cop simply because of the color of your skin? Or been denied a bank loan because of the color of your skin? Or lost out on a job because of the color of your skin? Had the cops called while walking your dog? Or had people with guns think you're suspicious when you're out for a jog, or walking back from the store? Etc. etc.

White Privilege isn't some extra boost we get for being white that makes our lives a ton easier, it's that when we face obstacles, the color of our skin normally isn't a factor.

White Privilege isn't about the choices we make in our day to day lives, it's about the choices other people make concerning us based on the color of our skin.

Holmes, yes. And, to take this a step further, the vast majority of people pulling a black over, denying a loan, etc. are not black. Blacks are victims of this systemized racism and, whether we're conscious of this fact or not, we are part of this system.

[Matnum PI]

Police brutality is a problem that has to be addressed and will be. It has also effected people of all races, not just blacks.
... What's my "role" btw?

Tech, this sounds a lot like "All Lives Matter". If you cannot comprehend why this movement is called BLM and not ALM, then I'm having trouble seeing how this discussion can be productive. Similarly, as for your "role", if you don't understand why this is BLM and not ALM then I highly doubt that you have any role.

[a fan]

If that were the case...why did he bother to pass legislation that supports black prisoners early releases. You guys make no damned sense. Use your heads from something other than a hat rack.

This is your idea of logic, then?

1. that bill applies to all prisoners, YA. But yes, most are black.

2. You think Trump is incapable of hypocrisy? You think he's consistent? Seriously? He can't even tell you what his own policies are.

And yet you think he's incapable of playing to the American racist because he signed a bill? 1+1= what, again?

[Typical Lax Dad]

https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/2016/7 ... sm-history

[tech37]

Police brutality is a problem that has to be addressed and will be. It has also effected people of all races, not just blacks.
... What's my "role" btw?

Tech, this sounds a lot like "All Lives Matter". If you cannot comprehend why this movement is called BLM and not ALM, then I'm having trouble seeing how this discussion can be productive. Similarly, as for your "role", if you don't understand why this is BLM and not ALM then I highly doubt that you have any role.

What a cop out... no pun intended. I wasn't even thinking of that alternative movement but does this mean you're against All Lives Matter? You can't possibly understand how BLM may seem racist and exclusionary to many people who truly want us to treat each other equally? No empathy for those folks MPI?

I really wish you would tell me my role so I know what to think and feel.

[Matnum PI]

... does this mean you're against All Lives Matter? You can't possibly understand how BLM may seem racist and exclusionary to many people who truly want us to treat each other equally? No empathy for those folks MPI?

The BLM movement is about the systematic racism *towards blacks*, not all people.

[Matnum PI]

I really wish you would tell me my role so I know what to think and feel.

Tech, you're 6 characters on a screen that posts posts here and there. How would I ever know what your role is? I don't know you. You should be asking yourself that question.

[Typical Lax Dad]

Police brutality is a problem that has to be addressed and will be. It has also effected people of all races, not just blacks.
... What's my "role" btw?

Tech, this sounds a lot like "All Lives Matter". If you cannot comprehend why this movement is called BLM and not ALM, then I'm having trouble seeing how this discussion can be productive. Similarly, as for your "role", if you don't understand why this is BLM and not ALM then I highly doubt that you have any role.

What a cop out... no pun intended. I wasn't even thinking of that alternative movement but does this mean you're against All Lives Matter? You can't possibly understand how BLM may seem racist and exclusionary to many people who truly want us to treat each other equally? No empathy for those folks MPI?

I really wish you would tell me my role so I know what to think and feel.

What are you talking about? My town had a BLM rally and there were about 100 people there and probably 8 black people. All over television you see people of all races and religions being supportive.....none of the people at the rally in my town felt “excluded” as they actually arranged the rally. It’s ok for you to say you feel the way you feel...don’t cop out by expanding your discomfort to include a wider circle of people. Maybe you can say you and your friends feel that way....what do your black friends think?