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Re: Johns Hopkins 2022

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 4:33 pm
by old salt
InsiderRoll wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 1:40 pm
jhu06 wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 1:29 pm The point was that the SEC played through the pandemic and Daniels/Baker chose to sit on the sideline and cower which PM and the people who cover the program have cited repeatedly as an issue over the last 2 years. It would do the university and program a lot of good to have the actual issues that Preston/QK and many of you have alluded to here for years between the prior and current staffs and the university brought into public view. Holding these stories back has clearly not helped.

On the teams instagram post with the crab trophy 4 days ago danny jones and a few of the other guys of the last 12 years weighed in with jabs at baker and daniels but notably chose to maintain support for the program/players.
Look I agree that they should have and could have played in fall of 2020. However I think your losing perspective if you think that Hopkins lacrosse is looked at by it’s administration the same way SEC football is looked at by administrators. There’s plenty that they can do better in terms of managing the program from the administration down. But Hopkins is really up against it in the B1G. They’re facing bigger budgets and a sea of resources, along with the fading mystique of Hopkins Lacrosse. There’s a lot of complaints about the AD here, the hiring pool the Hopkins has to look at for that position is not even remotely comparable to what their competition has. Other B1G schools likely pay AD anywhere from 3-12x as much money (don’t know her salary, but most B1G ADs make between 800k-1.6m). I just think that the Hopkins faithful have a false reality about what this program can really be year in and year out. And although Hopkins is an amazing academic school, for some reason the highest academic kids still seem to prioritize the Ivy in the recruiting process.
...& Charm City's fading national image as a safe place to reside is not helping recruiting.

Re: Johns Hopkins 2022

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 4:52 pm
by HopFan16
old salt wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 4:33 pm & Charm City's fading national image as a safe place to reside is not helping recruiting.
I spent the weekend in Baltimore and had the complete opposite takeaway. Charles Village has never been better, there is a state-of-the-art student center opening in 2024 and Fed Hill & Fell's Point neighborhoods are a college student's dream. Just bar after bar after bar, so much to eat and drink. The harbor area also has a ton more restaurants and such now than it did just 10 years ago. I would love to go to school there now and if I had college-aged kids I'd be thrilled for them if they got to spend four years there. It's not difficult for an undergrad student to stay out of the bad areas.

Campus was really lively this weekend, a lot going on. FIJI Islander was on Saturday and walking past it looked the same as ever. Ronny D doesn't seem too concerned about a bunch of rowdy college kids drinking in his literal backyard.

One other thing — they have clearly invested in the video board, pregame presentation, programs, overall gameday experience, etc. compared to when I was a student not that long ago. Go to a game and it becomes instantly clear that the conspiracy talk that this president and AD for some reason want to neglect the program into irrelevance is hilariously stupid. I also visited the new athletic center and it is one million times nicer and more "D1" than ever.

Re: Johns Hopkins 2022

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 4:53 pm
by LaxPundit07
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 4:30 pm
MoralTerpitude wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 4:18 pm Just my humble opinion, I don’t think political leanings have anything to do with Emotional IQ - they are values based. I’m sure we all know people at both extremes of the political spectrum that have no personal sensitivity, empathy, or self-awareness whatsoever. I’d daresay it’s those at the extremes that tend to have the smallest measures of those traits.
Likely correct. The extremes quite likely have low capacity for empathy for those with alternative views and perspectives.

However, I think that what may have been implied is that someone whose "values" include high commitment to social justice and the welfare of others over self-interest would likely choose a spouse whose 'values' were comparably concerned about others over self (regardless of political party affiliation). And that may well correlate with EQ.

Not extremes, just in general...I dunno whether that's accurate, though, but I bet that's what was meant.
This is exactly what I meant. Said much more eloquently than my attempts. And of course, I was not saying one side of the spectrum had more empathy than the other. I meant her, and their, specific causes are centered around empathy and compassion for others that may not look like us or have been traditionally oppressed.

Re: Johns Hopkins 2022

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 4:55 pm
by Laxmaninamillion
masondixonlax wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 1:44 pm
InsiderRoll wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 1:40 pm
jhu06 wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 1:29 pm The point was that the SEC played through the pandemic and Daniels/Baker chose to sit on the sideline and cower which PM and the people who cover the program have cited repeatedly as an issue over the last 2 years. It would do the university and program a lot of good to have the actual issues that Preston/QK and many of you have alluded to here for years between the prior and current staffs and the university brought into public view. Holding these stories back has clearly not helped.

On the teams instagram post with the crab trophy 4 days ago danny jones and a few of the other guys of the last 12 years weighed in with jabs at baker and daniels but notably chose to maintain support for the program/players.
Look I agree that they should have and could have played in fall of 2020. However I think your losing perspective if you think that Hopkins lacrosse is looked at by it’s administration the same way SEC football is looked at by administrators. There’s plenty that they can do better in terms of managing the program from the administration down. But Hopkins is really up against it in the B1G. They’re facing bigger budgets and a sea of resources, along with the fading mystique of Hopkins Lacrosse. There’s a lot of complaints about the AD here, the hiring pool the Hopkins has to look at for that position is not even remotely comparable to what their competition has. Other B1G schools likely pay AD anywhere from 3-12x as much money (don’t know her salary, but most B1G ADs make between 800k-1.6m). I just think that the Hopkins faithful have a false reality about what this program can really be year in and year out. And although Hopkins is an amazing academic school, for some reason the highest academic kids still seem to prioritize the Ivy in the recruiting process.
I mean no offense to Hopkins but if I had my option to choose between Hopkins or an IVY, I am choosing an IVY 100% of the time.
Not when you need scholarship money you don’t. Huge advantage for schools like Hopkins, UVA, Duke, etc…. Great academics and $$$

Re: Johns Hopkins 2022

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 4:57 pm
by old salt
HopFan16 wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 4:52 pm
old salt wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 4:33 pm & Charm City's fading national image as a safe place to reside is not helping recruiting.
I spent the weekend in Baltimore and had the complete opposite takeaway. Charles Village has never been better, there is a state-of-the-art student center opening in 2024 and Fed Hill & Fell's Point neighborhoods are a college student's dream. Just bar after bar after bar, so much to eat and drink. The harbor area also has a ton more restaurants and such now than it did just 10 years ago. I would love to go to school there now and if I had college-aged kids I'd be thrilled for them if they got to spend four years there. It's not difficult for an undergrad student to stay out of the bad areas.

Campus was really lively this weekend, a lot going on. FIJI Islander was on Saturday and walking past it looked the same as ever. Ronny D doesn't seem too concerned about a bunch of rowdy college kids drinking in his literal backyard.

One other thing — they have clearly invested in the video board, pregame presentation, programs, overall gameday experience, etc. compared to when I was a student not that long ago. Go to a game and it becomes instantly clear that the conspiracy talk that this president and AD for some reason want to neglect the program into irrelevance is hilariously stupid. I also visited the new athletic center and it is one million times nicer and more "D1" than ever.
Good to hear. I guess I"ve had to traverse & stop in the easy to avoid areas.
Has parking for Homewood improved, or is it still taking your chance on a street spot ? ?

Re: Johns Hopkins 2022

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 5:00 pm
by molo
Anyone who has never been to Hopkins and has heard all the right wing crap about Baltimore would think he or she was in the wrong place. Granted, the Homewood campus may not be quite as nice as the place where I spent my undergraduate years and a couple later on, or as nice as where my son spent his ug years, but then few college towns surpass Charlottesville or Athens. For an urban campus in a fairly big city, Homewood is quite nice. When I walk from the stadium back to my car, which I always park on the street in the adjacent neighborhood, I feel about as scared as I do walking my dog in my county neighborhood a few miles north. Do New Haven or West Philly deter students from applying to Yale or Penn? Didn't think so.

Re: Johns Hopkins 2022

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 5:02 pm
by molo
I always park on the street and walk less than half a mile to the stadium. I'm over 70 and have never had a problem in the neighborhood.

Re: Johns Hopkins 2022

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 5:15 pm
by MDlaxfan76
Laxmaninamillion wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 4:55 pm
masondixonlax wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 1:44 pm
InsiderRoll wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 1:40 pm
jhu06 wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 1:29 pm The point was that the SEC played through the pandemic and Daniels/Baker chose to sit on the sideline and cower which PM and the people who cover the program have cited repeatedly as an issue over the last 2 years. It would do the university and program a lot of good to have the actual issues that Preston/QK and many of you have alluded to here for years between the prior and current staffs and the university brought into public view. Holding these stories back has clearly not helped.

On the teams instagram post with the crab trophy 4 days ago danny jones and a few of the other guys of the last 12 years weighed in with jabs at baker and daniels but notably chose to maintain support for the program/players.
Look I agree that they should have and could have played in fall of 2020. However I think your losing perspective if you think that Hopkins lacrosse is looked at by it’s administration the same way SEC football is looked at by administrators. There’s plenty that they can do better in terms of managing the program from the administration down. But Hopkins is really up against it in the B1G. They’re facing bigger budgets and a sea of resources, along with the fading mystique of Hopkins Lacrosse. There’s a lot of complaints about the AD here, the hiring pool the Hopkins has to look at for that position is not even remotely comparable to what their competition has. Other B1G schools likely pay AD anywhere from 3-12x as much money (don’t know her salary, but most B1G ADs make between 800k-1.6m). I just think that the Hopkins faithful have a false reality about what this program can really be year in and year out. And although Hopkins is an amazing academic school, for some reason the highest academic kids still seem to prioritize the Ivy in the recruiting process.
I mean no offense to Hopkins but if I had my option to choose between Hopkins or an IVY, I am choosing an IVY 100% of the time.
Not when you need scholarship money you don’t. Huge advantage for schools like Hopkins, UVA, Duke, etc…. Great academics and $$$
Big fan of a Hopkins, UVA or Duke opportunity, however I'm perplexed by what you mean by "need scholarship money". What level of "need" are we talking about and why would you expect to get more financial support, or a net lower cost of education, at those 3 rather than an Ivy?

Re: Johns Hopkins 2022

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 5:17 pm
by MDlaxfan76
HopFan16 wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 4:52 pm
old salt wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 4:33 pm & Charm City's fading national image as a safe place to reside is not helping recruiting.
I spent the weekend in Baltimore and had the complete opposite takeaway. Charles Village has never been better, there is a state-of-the-art student center opening in 2024 and Fed Hill & Fell's Point neighborhoods are a college student's dream. Just bar after bar after bar, so much to eat and drink. The harbor area also has a ton more restaurants and such now than it did just 10 years ago. I would love to go to school there now and if I had college-aged kids I'd be thrilled for them if they got to spend four years there. It's not difficult for an undergrad student to stay out of the bad areas.

Campus was really lively this weekend, a lot going on. FIJI Islander was on Saturday and walking past it looked the same as ever. Ronny D doesn't seem too concerned about a bunch of rowdy college kids drinking in his literal backyard.

One other thing — they have clearly invested in the video board, pregame presentation, programs, overall gameday experience, etc. compared to when I was a student not that long ago. Go to a game and it becomes instantly clear that the conspiracy talk that this president and AD for some reason want to neglect the program into irrelevance is hilariously stupid. I also visited the new athletic center and it is one million times nicer and more "D1" than ever.
+1

Re: Johns Hopkins 2022

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 5:19 pm
by MDlaxfan76
molo wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 5:00 pm Anyone who has never been to Hopkins and has heard all the right wing crap about Baltimore would think he or she was in the wrong place. Granted, the Homewood campus may not be quite as nice as the place where I spent my undergraduate years and a couple later on, or as nice as where my son spent his ug years, but then few college towns surpass Charlottesville or Athens. For an urban campus in a fairly big city, Homewood is quite nice. When I walk from the stadium back to my car, which I always park on the street in the adjacent neighborhood, I feel about as scared as I do walking my dog in my county neighborhood a few miles north. Do New Haven or West Philly deter students from applying to Yale or Penn? Didn't think so.
+1

BTW, I've heard that crime is on the rise in Annapolis...must be why Navy isn't as great as they used to be...wait, they did just beat Army... :shock: :?

Re: Johns Hopkins 2022

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 5:25 pm
by jrn19
HopFan16 wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 4:52 pm
old salt wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 4:33 pm & Charm City's fading national image as a safe place to reside is not helping recruiting.
I spent the weekend in Baltimore and had the complete opposite takeaway. Charles Village has never been better, there is a state-of-the-art student center opening in 2024 and Fed Hill & Fell's Point neighborhoods are a college student's dream. Just bar after bar after bar, so much to eat and drink. The harbor area also has a ton more restaurants and such now than it did just 10 years ago. I would love to go to school there now and if I had college-aged kids I'd be thrilled for them if they got to spend four years there. It's not difficult for an undergrad student to stay out of the bad areas.

Campus was really lively this weekend, a lot going on. FIJI Islander was on Saturday and walking past it looked the same as ever. Ronny D doesn't seem too concerned about a bunch of rowdy college kids drinking in his literal backyard.

One other thing — they have clearly invested in the video board, pregame presentation, programs, overall gameday experience, etc. compared to when I was a student not that long ago. Go to a game and it becomes instantly clear that the conspiracy talk that this president and AD for some reason want to neglect the program into irrelevance is hilariously stupid. I also visited the new athletic center and it is one million times nicer and more "D1" than ever.
Was also at the game, and agreed. I mean, I don't know any recruits or recruits parents for sure, so I can't say what they think, but the area around Hopkins is great and there's still tons of great areas in Baltimore for a college student or anyone else. Yes there are some areas that aren't the nicest, but they aren't particularly near Hopkins and also, it's a big city. There's going to be some areas not nice. I'd be surprised if it's anywhere near a factor the way people on here like to continually describe as if the city of Baltimore personally affronted them somehow

Re: Johns Hopkins 2022

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 5:46 pm
by OCanada
51%. Saw those and many others. Beauty and the eye. I don’t recall the opponent calling i off in the 3q

Re: Johns Hopkins 2022

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 6:28 pm
by ColumbiaBlueBlack
jhu06 wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 10:50 amThey also screwed up moving homecoming to march when for baltimore it's cold out.
That one I'm willing to stretch and say, "Maybe (barely maybe?) not their fault." One of the problems with making a deal with the Devil, i.e., TV, is that the Devil gets to dictate when you play. So, to be charitable, and if nothing else, I am sometimes charitable, I'd blame it on TV. Fking 6 pm games. On Sunday. The real failure was having a tent with NO walls while the wind was whipping the wind chill down, down, down, and then giving the lameassed excuse that Balt City regs prevented walls. BS. There were plenty of walled tents all around campus. I'm not entirely stupid, my degree not withstanding, so don't try to feed me sht.

Re: Johns Hopkins 2022

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 6:49 pm
by Hail to the Victors
LaxPundit07 wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 3:27 pm ...
See my response to that above. In response to someone attacking his low EQ, which is laughable, I explained his family dynamic (wife, kids, and their political perspective) directly refuted that notion.
As inconceivable as this may be to you, I do not believe that those words mean what you think they mean.

Re: Johns Hopkins 2022

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 6:52 pm
by NYterp09
Laxmaninamillion wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 4:55 pm
masondixonlax wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 1:44 pm
InsiderRoll wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 1:40 pm
jhu06 wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 1:29 pm The point was that the SEC played through the pandemic and Daniels/Baker chose to sit on the sideline and cower which PM and the people who cover the program have cited repeatedly as an issue over the last 2 years. It would do the university and program a lot of good to have the actual issues that Preston/QK and many of you have alluded to here for years between the prior and current staffs and the university brought into public view. Holding these stories back has clearly not helped.

On the teams instagram post with the crab trophy 4 days ago danny jones and a few of the other guys of the last 12 years weighed in with jabs at baker and daniels but notably chose to maintain support for the program/players.
Look I agree that they should have and could have played in fall of 2020. However I think your losing perspective if you think that Hopkins lacrosse is looked at by it’s administration the same way SEC football is looked at by administrators. There’s plenty that they can do better in terms of managing the program from the administration down. But Hopkins is really up against it in the B1G. They’re facing bigger budgets and a sea of resources, along with the fading mystique of Hopkins Lacrosse. There’s a lot of complaints about the AD here, the hiring pool the Hopkins has to look at for that position is not even remotely comparable to what their competition has. Other B1G schools likely pay AD anywhere from 3-12x as much money (don’t know her salary, but most B1G ADs make between 800k-1.6m). I just think that the Hopkins faithful have a false reality about what this program can really be year in and year out. And although Hopkins is an amazing academic school, for some reason the highest academic kids still seem to prioritize the Ivy in the recruiting process.
I mean no offense to Hopkins but if I had my option to choose between Hopkins or an IVY, I am choosing an IVY 100% of the time.
Not when you need scholarship money you don’t. Huge advantage for schools like Hopkins, UVA, Duke, etc…. Great academics and $$$
Have you ever looked up how big Harvards endowment is? You’re high if you think the Ivy League schools can’t offer what duke or Virginia or Hopkins can.

Re: Johns Hopkins 2022

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 7:08 pm
by LaxPundit07
Hail to the Victors wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 6:49 pm
LaxPundit07 wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 3:27 pm ...
See my response to that above. In response to someone attacking his low EQ, which is laughable, I explained his family dynamic (wife, kids, and their political perspective) directly refuted that notion.
As inconceivable as this may be to you, I do not believe that those words mean what you think they mean.
Please explain. My small mind doesn’t understand your point.

Re: Johns Hopkins 2022

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 7:14 pm
by henryben
jhu06 wrote: Sat Apr 23, 2022 10:28 pm
harflax wrote: Sat Apr 23, 2022 10:10 pm Baltmore Sun writer Mike Preston eviscerates Millman, Hopkins.

https://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/ana ... story.html

"The Johns Hopkins lacrosse community has to be disgruntled at this time. In nearly two years under coach Peter Milliman, the Blue Jays have shown little progress and were overwhelmed and embarrassed by No. 1 Maryland Saturday night at Homewood Field in Baltimore."
-I find the womens act more obscene. That coach finally being put out to pasture has been there a lot longer, has a brand created by the mens program and their social media looks like a country club/sorority who also happens to play lacrosse. Love how they represent Daniels diversity equity inclusion there too. I'm sure they also have a group that is 20 percent first in their family to attend college like the accepted students in the incoming freshman class. I look at the top 25 of the womens polls and I see a bunch of programs without the academics, tradition, or location of Hopkins.
-Benson recruited more of the players in that Hopkins lineup than he did maryland guys or pm did hopkins guys. That was his offense looking awful. Dan Snyder should hire Benson's press helpers.
-Michigan has had a program for 10 years, they've done nothing but play cleveland state tough.
-As 51 pointed out PM could not turn over the 58 active players that Petro left behind plus 2 classes of recruits in 2 years. There's just no way in a pandemic you cut all that fat. But the clearing, the turnovers, the fact he ran Bensons offensive folks out there for 2 years and did nothing with it. Yikes. It won't get easier next year when the team will presumably get a lot younger.
I think Preston is right about the recruiting angle. We've got a son going to a D1 program next year. He's not good enough for a top 10 program (going mid-major) but he plays with and against kids who are. In their minds, I don't think Hopkins carries nearly the cache it did even 5 years ago. If you're a top recruit, even if you don't qualify for an Ivy like Yale, Penn, Princeton, etc...programs like UNC, Duke, Maryland, ND, UVA and even Michigan or OSU are more attractive than JHU. They all have good academics, great athletics and a true "college" experience beyond the classroom.

Re: Johns Hopkins 2022

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 7:23 pm
by willowglen
There are circumstances where athletic scholarships help over the Ivies. . My father was well off and there was no way I was qualified for aid at Princeton, my first choice. He was an incredibly abusive guy so I was not particularly bothered by his complete abandonment of the family. My mother was in ill health and hospitaized. I was a good student and ranked in the top 5 in the nation, so yes an athletic scholarship at Duke was very welcome. I wanted to look seriously at D 3 and Hopkins and Williams were serious options. With high poverty and stress I believed I could win NCAA at D3 without the full time job of being a professional athlete. Again, no way to get aid unless I lived on my own for several years. Not something I had the maturity to do.

Hopkins is just as good if not more attractive academically than half of the Ivy League. And there is no difference between Duke and JHU - all comes down to fit. I was a poor abused geek,, so Duke had its challenges socially but I could not be choosy. Look at sport like women 's XC, where Hopkins has 7 recent titles. Those women are choosing Hopkins over Williams, Amherst and Bowdoin. And they make this choice even though JHU like most city schools is not an ideal running environment. It makes sense to me, though. I am not sure I understand the attraction of Maryland though. For a good student athlete, JHU makes so much more sense.

Re: Johns Hopkins 2022

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 7:40 pm
by jrn19
jhu06 wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 10:50 am Hopkins is not the only school that does sr day post game. That was a bad mistake tho given what was likely to transpire w/the terps.
They also screwed up moving homecoming to march when for baltimore it's cold out.
The womens team has always been a joke and they got rid of some good things from my time there like villa spellman and the crew team which were beloved but kept a program that has never done anything.
The lacrosse podcasts have thrown bouquets at grant jr for 2 years since he was hired and I don't see anything or anyone he's done that's improved this club. The lack of offensive talent 2 years in has been terrible.
Too bad quint couldn't be bothered to find tinney and schwartzman in the crowd to show that on tv.
Patrick Stevens @D1scourse Earning its way onto the list of ideas that don't look so great in retrospect: Hopkins having its Senior Day ceremonies after this game.
The Johns Hopkins women's team has made 3 consecutive NCAA Tournaments and 6 of the last 7. Something the men's team can't say at this moment in time.

At some point you would really do well with not talking about things you have absolutely no idea about. You speak with such certainty and yet so often show you don't have a single clue about the things you speak with such certainty about.

Re: Johns Hopkins 2022

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 8:07 pm
by masondixonlax
willowglen wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 7:23 pm There are circumstances where athletic scholarships help over the Ivies. . My father was well off and there was no way I was qualified for aid at Princeton, my first choice. He was an incredibly abusive guy so I was not particularly bothered by his complete abandonment of the family. My mother was in ill health and hospitaized. I was a good student and ranked in the top 5 in the nation, so yes an athletic scholarship at Duke was very welcome. I wanted to look seriously at D 3 and Hopkins and Williams were serious options. With high poverty and stress I believed I could win NCAA at D3 without the full time job of being a professional athlete. Again, no way to get aid unless I lived on my own for several years. Not something I had the maturity to do.

Hopkins is just as good if not more attractive academically than half of the Ivy League. And there is no difference between Duke and JHU - all comes down to fit. I was a poor abused geek,, so Duke had its challenges socially but I could not be choosy. Look at sport like women 's XC, where Hopkins has 7 recent titles. Those women are choosing Hopkins over Williams, Amherst and Bowdoin. And they make this choice even though JHU like most city schools is not an ideal running environment. It makes sense to me, though. I am not sure I understand the attraction of Maryland though. For a good student athlete, JHU makes so much more sense.

It's actually pretty simple. Are the academics just as good at Hopkins? Yes, and in some cases probably better but....Ivy league just carries more weight and prestige which is more attractive to a 17 YO kid. Everyone around the country has heard of the Ivy schools. I have lived in several places around the states and a lot of time people of heard of John's Hopkins the hospital but aren't at all familiar with the undergrad or even aware there was an undergrad. While it may not be true, fact is the IVY's are thought if as the cream of the crop universities around the world. I grew up in Baltimore so I was aware how awesome Hopkins was/is but it does not carry the same weight as an Ivy as far as recognition and prestige. The name matters and it will get your foot in the door for opportunities you otherwise wouldn't have access to. Is that fair or just? No, but its the truth

MD is extremely attractive to a 17 YO who wants to win and compete for a championship and go to a D1 school atmosphere with good academics. Fact is winning is attractive and to a lot of kids academics may not be their #1 priority. Second - not every lax player is a good student. Maryland has much easier acceptance criteria when compared to a Hopkins or IVY.