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MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:33 pm

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:14 pm

6ftstick wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:07 pm OK lets say I'm silly enuff to want to see a Washington blah blah footballl game.

And lets say I show up at the stadium in a Washington Redskin Jersey.

Do I get in?

The Left is so exhaustingly dumb and mobbish. Does anyone REALLY care about this nickname nonsense? It wouldn't bother me in the least if the team wanted to change their names, nor would I demand they do so. I don't care if an inner-city high school wanted to call their team the Crackers. None of this is important.

Why, because "real American" Crackers don't consider that nickname offensive, just like your "real American" pals don't consider Redneck offensive?

I ask cause theres huge merchandising money to be made when alll the fans MUST buy new team swag.

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:02 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 1:51 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 1:33 pm

Nigel wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 1:20 pm More troubling political correctness.

Brilliant post Nigel. Mr Carlins thoughts here SHOULD be mandatory listening for every judgmental FLP toadstool on this forum. George makes more sense than any of them ever will in their lifetime.

This was actually good satirical humor:

Yeah, but would you have voted for him for POTUS? Pat did what any good satirical comedian should be able to do... point out absurdity by being absurd. I don't think very many people in 2020 would get the point. Many people did not understand it in the 70s when Archie Bunker called black people spades. It was not an attempt to insult black people. It was a mirror used to point out the ignorance of all of the Archie Bunkers of the world. How stupid they really were.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertai ... story.html

Norman Lear meant well. The issue was even his characters played to stereotypes and tropes. There wasn't much else in the mass media to offset these images. Good Times was one of the worst things on TV. Archie Bunker may have been the only racially insensitive bigot lampooned on TV ever.... How many JJ characters were on TV over the years.

Code Talkers

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:31 pm

6ftstick wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:07 pm OK lets say I'm silly enuff to want to see a Washington blah blah footballl game.

And lets say I show up at the stadium in a Washington Redskin Jersey.

Do I get in?

Up to the team management/owner, right?
They make the rules, not you and me.
Of course, the team may want to consider public opinion, and their player's opinions...

If it's still Dan Snyder owning the team, he might just give you a free beer on the sly...

On the other hand, at some point you might find some beers 'accidentally' spilled on you too...

So by that idea, is it right for a restaurant/bar owner/management to enforce a dress codes?
Ties, coat, no baggy pants, no hats, only hats worn a certain way?

kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:49 pm

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:31 pm

6ftstick wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:07 pm OK lets say I'm silly enuff to want to see a Washington blah blah footballl game.

And lets say I show up at the stadium in a Washington Redskin Jersey.

Do I get in?

Up to the team management/owner, right?
They make the rules, not you and me.
Of course, the team may want to consider public opinion, and their player's opinions...

If it's still Dan Snyder owning the team, he might just give you a free beer on the sly...

On the other hand, at some point you might find some beers 'accidentally' spilled on you too...

So by that idea, is it right for a restaurant/bar owner/management to enforce a dress codes?
Ties, coat, no baggy pants, no hats, only hats worn a certain way?

Restaurants should have a dress code. The problem in Baltimore recently was the fact that it was inconsistently applied. What are you doing to make a difference?

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:33 pm

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:14 pm

6ftstick wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:07 pm OK lets say I'm silly enuff to want to see a Washington blah blah footballl game.

And lets say I show up at the stadium in a Washington Redskin Jersey.

Do I get in?

The Left is so exhaustingly dumb and mobbish. Does anyone REALLY care about this nickname nonsense? It wouldn't bother me in the least if the team wanted to change their names, nor would I demand they do so. I don't care if an inner-city high school wanted to call their team the Crackers. None of this is important.

Why, because "real American" Crackers don't consider that nickname offensive, just like your "real American" pals don't consider Redneck offensive?

There was a team called the Atlanta Crackers for 60yrs, also an Atlanta Black Crackers. Site of former ballpark (now a Whole Foods anchored retail shopping center!) is maybe 1-1.5mi from my house called Ponce De Leon Park.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlanta_Crackers

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlanta_Black_Crackers

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:51 pm

kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:49 pm

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:31 pm

6ftstick wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:07 pm OK lets say I'm silly enuff to want to see a Washington blah blah footballl game.

And lets say I show up at the stadium in a Washington Redskin Jersey.

Do I get in?

Up to the team management/owner, right?
They make the rules, not you and me.
Of course, the team may want to consider public opinion, and their player's opinions...

If it's still Dan Snyder owning the team, he might just give you a free beer on the sly...

On the other hand, at some point you might find some beers 'accidentally' spilled on you too...

So by that idea, is it right for a restaurant/bar owner/management to enforce a dress codes?
Ties, coat, no baggy pants, no hats, only hats worn a certain way?

Restaurants should have a dress code. The problem in Baltimore recently was the fact that it was inconsistently applied. What are you doing to make a difference?

I was thinking more so in Bars...

Making a difference? In which regard? I like to think I make a difference in a few ways, with the way I spend my time and money downtown.

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:33 pm

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:14 pm

6ftstick wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:07 pm OK lets say I'm silly enuff to want to see a Washington blah blah footballl game.

And lets say I show up at the stadium in a Washington Redskin Jersey.

Do I get in?

The Left is so exhaustingly dumb and mobbish. Does anyone REALLY care about this nickname nonsense? It wouldn't bother me in the least if the team wanted to change their names, nor would I demand they do so. I don't care if an inner-city high school wanted to call their team the Crackers. None of this is important.

Why, because "real American" Crackers don't consider that nickname offensive, just like your "real American" pals don't consider Redneck offensive?

Any person above the age of 12, with one synapse still firing in their head, doesn't care about nicknames.

The Left on the other hand...

Connect the dots.

6ftstick wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:36 pm

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:33 pm

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:14 pm

6ftstick wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:07 pm OK lets say I'm silly enuff to want to see a Washington blah blah footballl game.

And lets say I show up at the stadium in a Washington Redskin Jersey.

Do I get in?

The Left is so exhaustingly dumb and mobbish. Does anyone REALLY care about this nickname nonsense? It wouldn't bother me in the least if the team wanted to change their names, nor would I demand they do so. I don't care if an inner-city high school wanted to call their team the Crackers. None of this is important.

Why, because "real American" Crackers don't consider that nickname offensive, just like your "real American" pals don't consider Redneck offensive?

I ask cause theres huge merchandising money to be made when alll the fans MUST buy new team swag.

silver linings...

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:53 pm

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:33 pm

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:14 pm

6ftstick wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:07 pm OK lets say I'm silly enuff to want to see a Washington blah blah footballl game.

And lets say I show up at the stadium in a Washington Redskin Jersey.

Do I get in?

The Left is so exhaustingly dumb and mobbish. Does anyone REALLY care about this nickname nonsense? It wouldn't bother me in the least if the team wanted to change their names, nor would I demand they do so. I don't care if an inner-city high school wanted to call their team the Crackers. None of this is important.

Why, because "real American" Crackers don't consider that nickname offensive, just like your "real American" pals don't consider Redneck offensive?

There was a team called the Atlanta Crackers for 60yrs, also an Atlanta Black Crackers. Site of former ballpark (now a Whole Foods anchored retail shopping center!) is maybe 1-1.5mi from my house called Ponce De Leon Park.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlanta_Crackers

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlanta_Black_Crackers

English is a tough language to learn because so many words have multiple meanings. I saw this.

According to Tim Darnell, who wrote The Crackers: Early Days of Atlanta Baseball, the origins of the team name is unknown.[5]

Darnell cites several possibilities as to why this name was chosen:

A term that means a poor, white southerner
Someone who is quick and efficient at a task
In reference to plowboys who cracked the whip over animals, as in Georgia cracker
A shortened version of "Atlanta Firecrackers", the earlier 1892 minor league team
However, this list does not represent the most likely origins of the name. The term cracker is derived from the Gaelic craic, meaning entertaining conversation or boasting, with the latter sense still attested in the idiom "not all it's cracked up to be."[6] It was used in the 18th century to denote Irish and Scottish colonists of the Deep South backcountry. The Earl of Dartmouth had this to say in a 1766 correspondence: "I should explain to your Lordship what is meant by Crackers; a name they have got from being great boasters; they are a lawless set of rascals on the frontiers of Virginia, Maryland, the Carolinas, and Georgia, who often change their places of abode."[6]

During the period of Reconstruction following the American Civil War, there was also a political party of the same name. Organized in Augusta, Georgia, this party's platform was one of "opposition to Catholics and segregation of blacks".[7]

While now sometimes used as a derogatory term for a white southerner that promotes racism, it is also used as a term of pride by some white southerners to indicate one that is descended from those original settlers of the area.[6]

As in several other cities, Atlanta's local Negro league team was named after the local White league team: the Atlanta Black Crackers joined the Negro Southern League in 1920, and existed until the early 1950s.

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:14 pm The Left is so exhaustingly dumb and mobbish. Does anyone REALLY care about this nickname nonsense? It wouldn't bother me in the least if the team wanted to change their names, nor would I demand they do so.

That's because you're intentionally picking inoffensive names.

Let's say everyone at your place of work started calling you "little d*ck Pete". And also did it in front of your family. Or called your wife "Pete's wh*re wife". Oh yeah, you'd LOVE that, and wouldn't ask them to stop.....because asking them to call you Pete is just PC nonsense, right? They should totally call you "little d*ck Pete".

What hilarious about all this, is that all people are asking are just completely uncomplicated, old school, Andy Griffith-era manners. Don't call someone something that they don't want to be called. Simple, simple stuff that my five year old understands just fine.

Show some respect. Apparently that's too much to ask of some Americans these days, and they want to whine and complain when you ask them to be polite, eat with a fork and knife, and not *hit themselves when sitting at the dinner table. All this time I thought my parents were teaching me how to be an adult. Turns out they were PC Nazis, hellbent on taking away my freedom.

a fan wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 4:30 pm

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:14 pm The Left is so exhaustingly dumb and mobbish. Does anyone REALLY care about this nickname nonsense? It wouldn't bother me in the least if the team wanted to change their names, nor would I demand they do so.

That's because you're intentionally picking inoffensive names.

Let's say everyone at your place of work started calling you "little d*ck Pete". And also did it in front of your family. Or called your wife "Pete's wh*re wife". Oh yeah, you'd LOVE that, and wouldn't ask them to stop.....because asking them to call you Pete is just PC nonsense, right? They should totally call you "little d*ck Pete".

What hilarious about all this, is that all people are asking are just completely uncomplicated, old school, Andy Griffith-era manners. Don't call someone something that they don't want to be called. Simple, simple stuff that my five year old understands just fine.

Show some respect. Apparently that's too much to ask of some Americans these days, and they want to whine and complain when you ask them to be polite, eat with a fork and knife, and not *hit themselves when sitting at the dinner table. All this time I thought my parents were teaching me how to be an adult. Turns out they were PC Nazis, hellbent on taking away my freedom.

So direct personal insults are now the same as team nicknames! Got it! That seems, uhhhh, not such a smart take?

The name "Redskin" is harmless to anyone with a functioning cranium...even to Indians. Anyone above the age of 12. Democrats of course are 'on the warpath' (may I use that term?!) to rid the team of the name and possibly imprison Snyder for his use thereof!

Personally, I don't care if Snyder keeps the name or loses it. Also, I don't care if anyone calls me a cracker or a redneck. Or really anything. The Left has a habit of resorting to direct personal insults, here and elsewhere, which is a function of low-IQ and internal anger (which should be obvious since leftism is the world's greatest threat, always has been and always will be; anyone attracted to that dystopia is generally a weak human with low self-esteem and low self confidence, with very little in the way of marketable skills, almost never in possession of real life skills).

What I don't like is when the mob gangs up on anyone or any business because they have a woke virtue signal to sell, which is all this nickname business really is. Democrats are mobbish because when one is weak, there is safety in numbers.

Your heart is with the Dems on this and many other issues; the mob is Democrat. I despise mob mentality. Simple enough?

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 5:21 pm

a fan wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 4:30 pm

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:14 pm The Left is so exhaustingly dumb and mobbish. Does anyone REALLY care about this nickname nonsense? It wouldn't bother me in the least if the team wanted to change their names, nor would I demand they do so.

That's because you're intentionally picking inoffensive names.

Let's say everyone at your place of work started calling you "little d*ck Pete". And also did it in front of your family. Or called your wife "Pete's wh*re wife". Oh yeah, you'd LOVE that, and wouldn't ask them to stop.....because asking them to call you Pete is just PC nonsense, right? They should totally call you "little d*ck Pete".

What hilarious about all this, is that all people are asking are just completely uncomplicated, old school, Andy Griffith-era manners. Don't call someone something that they don't want to be called. Simple, simple stuff that my five year old understands just fine.

Show some respect. Apparently that's too much to ask of some Americans these days, and they want to whine and complain when you ask them to be polite, eat with a fork and knife, and not *hit themselves when sitting at the dinner table. All this time I thought my parents were teaching me how to be an adult. Turns out they were PC Nazis, hellbent on taking away my freedom.

So direct personal insults are now the same as team nicknames! Got it! That seems, uhhhh, not such a smart take?

The name "Redskin" is harmless to anyone with a functioning cranium...even to Indians. Anyone above the age of 12. Democrats of course are 'on the warpath' (may I use that term?!) to rid the team of the name and possibly imprison Snyder for his use thereof!

Personally, I don't care if Snyder keeps the name or loses it. Also, I don't care if anyone calls me a cracker or a redneck. Or really anything. The Left has a habit of resorting to direct personal insults, here and elsewhere, which is a function of low-IQ and internal anger (which should be obvious since leftism is the world's greatest threat, always has been and always will be; anyone attracted to that dystopia is generally a weak human with low self-esteem and low self confidence, with very little in the way of marketable skills, almost never in possession of real life skills).

What I don't like is when the mob gangs up on anyone or any business because they have a woke virtue signal to sell, which is all this nickname business really is. Democrats are mobbish because when one is weak, there is safety in numbers.

Your heart is with the Dems on this and many other issues; the mob is Democrat. I despise mob mentality. Simple enough?

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 5:21 pm

a fan wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 4:30 pm

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:14 pm The Left is so exhaustingly dumb and mobbish. Does anyone REALLY care about this nickname nonsense? It wouldn't bother me in the least if the team wanted to change their names, nor would I demand they do so.

That's because you're intentionally picking inoffensive names.

Let's say everyone at your place of work started calling you "little d*ck Pete". And also did it in front of your family. Or called your wife "Pete's wh*re wife". Oh yeah, you'd LOVE that, and wouldn't ask them to stop.....because asking them to call you Pete is just PC nonsense, right? They should totally call you "little d*ck Pete".

What hilarious about all this, is that all people are asking are just completely uncomplicated, old school, Andy Griffith-era manners. Don't call someone something that they don't want to be called. Simple, simple stuff that my five year old understands just fine.

Show some respect. Apparently that's too much to ask of some Americans these days, and they want to whine and complain when you ask them to be polite, eat with a fork and knife, and not *hit themselves when sitting at the dinner table. All this time I thought my parents were teaching me how to be an adult. Turns out they were PC Nazis, hellbent on taking away my freedom.

So direct personal insults are now the same as team nicknames! Got it! That seems, uhhhh, not such a smart take?

The name "Redskin" is harmless to anyone with a functioning cranium...even to Indians. Anyone above the age of 12. Democrats of course are 'on the warpath' (may I use that term?!) to rid the team of the name and possibly imprison Snyder for his use thereof!

Personally, I don't care if Snyder keeps the name or loses it. Also, I don't care if anyone calls me a cracker or a redneck. Or really anything. The Left has a habit of resorting to direct personal insults, here and elsewhere, which is a function of low-IQ and internal anger (which should be obvious since leftism is the world's greatest threat, always has been and always will be; anyone attracted to that dystopia is generally a weak human with low self-esteem and low self confidence, with very little in the way of marketable skills, almost never in possession of real life skills).

What I don't like is when the mob gangs up on anyone or any business because they have a woke virtue signal to sell, which is all this nickname business really is. Democrats are mobbish because when one is weak, there is safety in numbers.

Your heart is with the Dems on this and many other issues; the mob is Democrat. I despise mob mentality. Simple enough?

Fellas, you're in the presence of Zarathustra. Just bow down!

a fan wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 4:30 pm

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:14 pm The Left is so exhaustingly dumb and mobbish. Does anyone REALLY care about this nickname nonsense? It wouldn't bother me in the least if the team wanted to change their names, nor would I demand they do so.

That's because you're intentionally picking inoffensive names.

Let's say everyone at your place of work started calling you "little d*ck Pete". And also did it in front of your family. Or called your wife "Pete's wh*re wife". Oh yeah, you'd LOVE that, and wouldn't ask them to stop.....because asking them to call you Pete is just PC nonsense, right? They should totally call you "little d*ck Pete".

What hilarious about all this, is that all people are asking are just completely uncomplicated, old school, Andy Griffith-era manners. Don't call someone something that they don't want to be called. Simple, simple stuff that my five year old understands just fine.

Show some respect. Apparently that's too much to ask of some Americans these days, and they want to whine and complain when you ask them to be polite, eat with a fork and knife, and not *hit themselves when sitting at the dinner table. All this time I thought my parents were teaching me how to be an adult. Turns out they were PC Nazis, hellbent on taking away my freedom.

This is a completely ridiculous post, a fan ...

... there’s no way a wh*re would marry Pete.

DocBarrister

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 1:09 pm

DocBarrister wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:22 am

DMac wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:16 am Okay, fellas, it's all yours. From here on out I'll ignore what the boys at the Rez tell me and listen to you guys instead.
Have a nice day.

That poll also wasn’t very scientific.

A more recent poll showed about half found the current Washington team name offensive.

https://www.washingtonian.com/2020/02/2 ... kins-name/

DocBarrister

That is a very good article. Dehumanization is central. It happens on a subconscious level in most instances. The overt examples are rare and unfortunately that’s the standard people use.

From the man who designed the Redskin Logo.

https://www.wusa9.com/article/sports/nf ... OwmcqCd_Vo

youthathletics wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 6:51 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 1:09 pm

DocBarrister wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:22 am

DMac wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:16 am Okay, fellas, it's all yours. From here on out I'll ignore what the boys at the Rez tell me and listen to you guys instead.
Have a nice day.

That poll also wasn’t very scientific.

A more recent poll showed about half found the current Washington team name offensive.

https://www.washingtonian.com/2020/02/2 ... kins-name/

DocBarrister

That is a very good article. Dehumanization is central. It happens on a subconscious level in most instances. The overt examples are rare and unfortunately that’s the standard people use.

From the man who designed the Redskin Logo.
https://www.wusa9.com/article/sports/nf ... OwmcqCd_Vo

It’s an issue bigger than Stevens. I am not going to lose any sleep over it. The Aunt Jemima folks had no problem with their family member being portrayed as a mammy either. Issue bigger than them. Unfortunately.


From the article:

Everyone understood the name change we were all on board with that. Once they weren't going to use the logo, it was hard. It takes away from the Native Americans. When I see that logo, I take pride in it.

"If it were changed and it removed any derogatory feelings toward any person, then I think it’s a win. I don’t want that logo to be associated in a negative way, ever.”

there have been polls out in the dc area to choose a favorite new nickname.

someone reported they expected the name to come out today.

you'd think one good strategy would've been to poll the hundreds or thousands of organizations to see whether they'd like to help or be the ones to choose the name, and maybe design the logo.

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:41 am The psychologists estimate that about 6% of the general population has an inability to feel empathy. which explains only a piece of this problem.

What is troubling, therefore, is how so many more than this % have adopted suppression of empathy as a partisan matter under the guise of rejecting "Political Correctness".

I think psychologists are describing psychopaths, sociopaths, and people with a Narcissistic Personality Disorder. i.e. People who have literally zero empathy. there are plenty of people who have some empathy who don't fall into this category who "lack empathy". As for your second comment, agreed. Beyond words to me.

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 7:03 pm

youthathletics wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 6:51 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 1:09 pm

DocBarrister wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:22 am

DMac wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:16 am Okay, fellas, it's all yours. From here on out I'll ignore what the boys at the Rez tell me and listen to you guys instead.
Have a nice day.

That poll also wasn’t very scientific.

A more recent poll showed about half found the current Washington team name offensive.

https://www.washingtonian.com/2020/02/2 ... kins-name/

DocBarrister

That is a very good article. Dehumanization is central. It happens on a subconscious level in most instances. The overt examples are rare and unfortunately that’s the standard people use.

From the man who designed the Redskin Logo.
https://www.wusa9.com/article/sports/nf ... OwmcqCd_Vo

It’s an issue bigger than Stevens. I am not going to lose any sleep over it. The Aunt Jemima folks had no problem with their family member being portrayed as a mammy either. Issue bigger than them. Unfortunately.


From the article:

Everyone understood the name change we were all on board with that. Once they weren't going to use the logo, it was hard. It takes away from the Native Americans. When I see that logo, I take pride in it.

"If it were changed and it removed any derogatory feelings toward any person, then I think it’s a win. I don’t want that logo to be associated in a negative way, ever.”

It's an issue bigger than Stevens because the white man has made it bigger.
Stevens and the Indians can't think for themselves so the white man will do it for them.
"When I see that logo, I take pride in it." Silly him, he doesn't get it.
"If it were changed and it removed any derogatory feelings toward any person, then I think it’s a win. I don’t want that logo to be associated in a negative way, ever.” It's the white man who says it's derogatory, it's the white man who is asscociating it in a negative way, so the white man is going to fix it all for the Indians (to make themselves feel so good and righteous).