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Re: Johns Hopkins 2024

Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2023 4:35 pm
by MDlaxfan76
OCanada wrote: Mon Jul 03, 2023 12:13 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Mon Jul 03, 2023 9:31 am
nyjay wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 12:00 pm
jhu06 wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 11:26 am Larry Quinn, Dave Allan, Kelly. Has the issue been the recruiting of goalies, the coaching, or the defense in front of the goalies?
Uh, yes?
Pretty sure Dave Allan had the role of working with FOGO's not the tenders, nor did I see him on the recruiting trail when my goalie son was coming up. I don't think he was in the lead role for recruiting, nor training, tenders at least not during the era in which goaltending went downhill versus earlier eras of tender after tender excellence.

That said, he was by far my best goalie coach, excellent technique and drilling, detail oriented...same as he was as a field tactician. Tremendously successful in both stints as HC at Gilman.

I don't know that Quinn was involved in the recruiting either...full time job as lawyer.

As I've written earlier, I think goalie recruitment got fouled up primarily during ER.
Yes on Allen. I forget the year but Quinn noticed a flaw in our goalies positioning and made a suggestion. After implementation goalie play improved and Hopkins went on an end of season run. The following year he joined the staff.
Was he not a volunteer coach? Still full time job?
Was he doing the recruiting in the summer and fall, etc?
Traveling around the country to do so?

I could well be mistaken, but I don't recall that being the case...if so, he was a heck of a lot more involved than I thought. But sure, working with the goalies at practices.

I believe Allan was a volunteer as well, right? But basically "retired" at the age of nearly 60?
Involved a bit with recruiting, but not specifically goalies.

Re: Johns Hopkins 2024

Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2023 4:52 pm
by OCanada
Larry was officially an Assistant Coach so i assume he was paid. I doubt he was recruiting bit i can imagine he had input. I don’t know definitively his duties

Re: Johns Hopkins 2024

Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2023 9:24 pm
by lilax
OCanada wrote: Mon Jul 03, 2023 12:13 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Mon Jul 03, 2023 9:31 am
nyjay wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 12:00 pm
jhu06 wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 11:26 am Larry Quinn, Dave Allan, Kelly. Has the issue been the recruiting of goalies, the coaching, or the defense in front of the goalies?
Uh, yes?
Pretty sure Dave Allan had the role of working with FOGO's not the tenders, nor did I see him on the recruiting trail when my goalie son was coming up. I don't think he was in the lead role for recruiting, nor training, tenders at least not during the era in which goaltending went downhill versus earlier eras of tender after tender excellence.

That said, he was by far my best goalie coach, excellent technique and drilling, detail oriented...same as he was as a field tactician. Tremendously successful in both stints as HC at Gilman.

I don't know that Quinn was involved in the recruiting either...full time job as lawyer.

As I've written earlier, I think goalie recruitment got fouled up primarily during ER.
Yes on Allen. I forget the year but Quinn noticed a flaw in our goalies positioning and made a suggestion. After implementation goalie play improved and Hopkins went on an end of season run. The following year he joined the staff.
Believe it was Schneider in 2015.

Re: Johns Hopkins 2024

Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2023 2:14 pm
by MDlaxfan76
OCanada wrote: Mon Jul 03, 2023 4:52 pm Larry was officially an Assistant Coach so i assume he was paid. I doubt he was recruiting bit i can imagine he had input. I don’t know definitively his duties
I think that would be an incorrect assumption.
According to NCAA rules, there were 2 paid assistants plus one volunteer assistant. Total 3 paid on field.
Dwan and Benson were the paid assistants.

The change in #'s would be this coming year.

Feel free to correct me.

Re: Johns Hopkins 2024

Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2023 5:44 pm
by OCanada
Seems right fo me.

Re: Johns Hopkins 2024

Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2023 5:49 pm
by OCanada
lilax wrote: Mon Jul 03, 2023 9:24 pm
OCanada wrote: Mon Jul 03, 2023 12:13 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Mon Jul 03, 2023 9:31 am
nyjay wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 12:00 pm
jhu06 wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 11:26 am Larry Quinn, Dave Allan, Kelly. Has the issue been the recruiting of goalies, the coaching, or the defense in front of the goalies?
Uh, yes?
Pretty sure Dave Allan had the role of working with FOGO's not the tenders, nor did I see him on the recruiting trail when my goalie son was coming up. I don't think he was in the lead role for recruiting, nor training, tenders at least not during the era in which goaltending went downhill versus earlier eras of tender after tender excellence.

That said, he was by far my best goalie coach, excellent technique and drilling, detail oriented...same as he was as a field tactician. Tremendously successful in both stints as HC at Gilman.

I don't know that Quinn was involved in the recruiting either...full time job as lawyer.

As I've written earlier, I think goalie recruitment got fouled up primarily during ER.
Yes on Allen. I forget the year but Quinn noticed a flaw in our goalies positioning and made a suggestion. After implementation goalie play improved and Hopkins went on an end of season run. The following year he joined the staff.
Believe it was Schneider in 2015.
Thx. I could not recall and did not search

Re: Johns Hopkins 2024

Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2023 8:19 pm
by jhu06
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Jul 04, 2023 2:14 pm
OCanada wrote: Mon Jul 03, 2023 4:52 pm Larry was officially an Assistant Coach so i assume he was paid. I doubt he was recruiting bit i can imagine he had input. I don’t know definitively his duties
I think that would be an incorrect assumption.
According to NCAA rules, there were 2 paid assistants plus one volunteer assistant. Total 3 paid on field.
Dwan and Benson were the paid assistants.

The change in #'s would be this coming year.

Feel free to correct me.
but there are side benefits right for the volunteer coaches? like if their kids get in they get the employee tuition discount?

Re: Johns Hopkins 2024

Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2023 9:02 am
by MDlaxfan76
jhu06 wrote: Tue Jul 04, 2023 8:19 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Jul 04, 2023 2:14 pm
OCanada wrote: Mon Jul 03, 2023 4:52 pm Larry was officially an Assistant Coach so i assume he was paid. I doubt he was recruiting bit i can imagine he had input. I don’t know definitively his duties
I think that would be an incorrect assumption.
According to NCAA rules, there were 2 paid assistants plus one volunteer assistant. Total 3 paid on field.
Dwan and Benson were the paid assistants.

The change in #'s would be this coming year.

Feel free to correct me.
but there are side benefits right for the volunteer coaches? like if their kids get in they get the employee tuition discount?
Have no idea about what Hopkins' policy is, my alma mater would not have that situation for a volunteer coach.

But this discussion wasn't really about pay, simply the amount of time someone like Larry Quinn, with a successful law practice, would most likely be spending on the recruiting efforts as a volunteer goalie coach. Maybe he was very involved, but I'm simply saying I doubt it. That's a lot of weeks of summer travel...

I don't think Larry was involved for the financial compensation, either... ;)
I'm confident he loves the game, Hopkins, and wanted to help if he could.

Re: Johns Hopkins 2024

Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2023 11:33 am
by OCanada
+1

I believe you have go be a paid employee for X period of time to qualify for tuition benefits for offspring. The benefit has been narrower over recent years. As have other benefits

Re: Johns Hopkins 2024

Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2023 11:42 am
by jhu06
https://www.instagram.com/vintagelaxbrand/

these guys post some hopkins stuff every few weeks. the other day was 1980 uva-hopkins. have to think the gb guys loved the 70s/80s astrostuf because seems like it was a lot easier to pick up gbs.

Re: Johns Hopkins 2024

Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2023 10:31 pm
by primitiveskills
jhu06 wrote: Wed Jul 05, 2023 11:42 am https://www.instagram.com/vintagelaxbrand/

these guys post some hopkins stuff every few weeks. the other day was 1980 uva-hopkins. have to think the gb guys loved the 70s/80s astrostuf because seems like it was a lot easier to pick up gbs.
Great clip from a great game. In a 20 second span:
- Wayne Davis getting blown up off the faceoff
- Greenberg blowing up Steve Kraus
- Piggy with an incredible save and GB (not as famous as the one in OT, but still)
- Greenberg bounce pass to Jeff Harris in transition
- Wayne Davis with the right-handed finish (possibly the only righty of his career?)

Re: Johns Hopkins 2024

Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2023 10:35 am
by flalax22
Chris Wong has transferred to Salisbury. Is this the case of a player making a 3 year decision over a 30 year one?

I wish him well.

Re: Johns Hopkins 2024

Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2023 3:39 pm
by Ruffled_Feathers
Apart from alumni networking or placement type events which are run via a school program I don't actually think the texted printed on your diploma matters as much anymore as some people might think it does. It simply existing is generally enough.

Re: Johns Hopkins 2024

Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2023 12:27 pm
by Sagittarius A*
Zawada is heading to Duke:

https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/ ... ason/61817

Definitely won't miss him in the Big 10 next season.

Re: Johns Hopkins 2024

Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2023 12:35 pm
by PulpExposure
Ruffled_Feathers wrote: Thu Jul 06, 2023 3:39 pm Apart from alumni networking or placement type events which are run via a school program I don't actually think the texted printed on your diploma matters as much anymore as some people might think it does. It simply existing is generally enough.
Matters a lot for grad school....

Re: Johns Hopkins 2024

Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2023 2:13 pm
by flalax22
Ruffled_Feathers wrote: Thu Jul 06, 2023 3:39 pm Apart from alumni networking or placement type events which are run via a school program I don't actually think the texted printed on your diploma matters as much anymore as some people might think it does. It simply existing is generally enough.
I would argue grad school and job prospects are much improved with a Hopkins diploma vs a Salisbury one for many reasons

Re: Johns Hopkins 2024

Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2023 2:13 pm
by flalax22
flalax22 wrote: Fri Jul 07, 2023 2:13 pm
Ruffled_Feathers wrote: Thu Jul 06, 2023 3:39 pm Apart from alumni networking or placement type events which are run via a school program I don't actually think the texted printed on your diploma matters as much anymore as some people might think it does. It simply existing is generally enough.
I would argue grad school and job prospects are much improved with a Hopkins diploma vs. a Salisbury one for many reasons

Re: Johns Hopkins 2024

Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2023 9:17 pm
by jhu06
flalax22 wrote: Thu Jul 06, 2023 10:35 am Chris Wong has transferred to Salisbury. Is this the case of a player making a 3 year decision over a 30 year one?

I wish him well.
a decade ago there were a couple of kids who transferred to tampa-the college, I think one of petros last kids ended up at NJIT, Gomez was his name I think. when we don't know someones circumstances and we don't with non revenue sports, hard to really blame them. could always be a parental or friend situation in there.

Re: Johns Hopkins 2024

Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2023 9:57 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
flalax22 wrote: Fri Jul 07, 2023 2:13 pm
Ruffled_Feathers wrote: Thu Jul 06, 2023 3:39 pm Apart from alumni networking or placement type events which are run via a school program I don't actually think the texted printed on your diploma matters as much anymore as some people might think it does. It simply existing is generally enough.
I would argue grad school and job prospects are much improved with a Hopkins diploma vs a Salisbury one for many reasons
Maybe he didn’t think he could get through school there and was depressed?

Re: Johns Hopkins 2024

Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2023 10:02 pm
by flalax22
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Fri Jul 07, 2023 9:57 pm
flalax22 wrote: Fri Jul 07, 2023 2:13 pm
Ruffled_Feathers wrote: Thu Jul 06, 2023 3:39 pm Apart from alumni networking or placement type events which are run via a school program I don't actually think the texted printed on your diploma matters as much anymore as some people might think it does. It simply existing is generally enough.
I would argue grad school and job prospects are much improved with a Hopkins diploma vs a Salisbury one for many reasons
Maybe he didn’t think he could get through school there and was depressed?
He’s an Academic All B1G10.