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HopFan16 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 5:58 pm

jersey shore lax wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 1:39 pm

HopFan16 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 1:23 pm

gymman1031 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 1:19 pm While I hope things work out for him, I am wondering what Jason Miller's status is at St. John's. Yes, he is a hard worker and loves his program. Yes, St. John's is a very hard sell for talent, due mostly to the area they are in and it being mostly a commuter school. But still, they are in a region that produces so much talent. Including loads and loads of under the radar players. Should they, regardless of what they have working against them, be doing a bit better?

I don't think St. John's cares. If they did they probably would have looked to move on after the former team captain nearly disemboweled his roommate. If you're winning titles you can probably look past a disemboweling or two but when you only win two games a year you'd think that'd give them cover to make the switch after just a single disemboweling.

Not to disembowel your disemboweling post but I think that if the disemboweler was still an active player than one disembowelment is the limit but since the disemboweler was already graduated and no longer in the program I think they would have to have two disembowelments to can the coach. Of course the irony is that the first time they were a varsity team they had a rape situation and shut down the program.

Fair enough. To be clear I'm not blaming the coach for what happened. But it just seems like the sort of incident where the admin would throw their hands up and say ok it's probably time to start fresh here. Don't think anyone would blame them for doing so. Feel like all bets are off when someone gets disemboweled on campus.

LacrosseFan33 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 9:35 am This feel right so far? Any additions?

Hot Seat
Chris Gabrielli - Providence
Travis Johnson - NJIT

Warming Up
Tambroni - Penn State
Jason Miller - St Johns
JJ Reppert - Holy Cross

DocBarrister wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 10:43 am

HopFan16 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 5:58 pm

jersey shore lax wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 1:39 pm

HopFan16 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 1:23 pm

gymman1031 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 1:19 pm While I hope things work out for him, I am wondering what Jason Miller's status is at St. John's. Yes, he is a hard worker and loves his program. Yes, St. John's is a very hard sell for talent, due mostly to the area they are in and it being mostly a commuter school. But still, they are in a region that produces so much talent. Including loads and loads of under the radar players. Should they, regardless of what they have working against them, be doing a bit better?

I don't think St. John's cares. If they did they probably would have looked to move on after the former team captain nearly disemboweled his roommate. If you're winning titles you can probably look past a disemboweling or two but when you only win two games a year you'd think that'd give them cover to make the switch after just a single disemboweling.

Not to disembowel your disemboweling post but I think that if the disemboweler was still an active player than one disembowelment is the limit but since the disemboweler was already graduated and no longer in the program I think they would have to have two disembowelments to can the coach. Of course the irony is that the first time they were a varsity team they had a rape situation and shut down the program.

Fair enough. To be clear I'm not blaming the coach for what happened. But it just seems like the sort of incident where the admin would throw their hands up and say ok it's probably time to start fresh here. Don't think anyone would blame them for doing so. Feel like all bets are off when someone gets disemboweled on campus.

Well, to be entirely fair, a disembowelment isn’t like almost losing to Mount Saint Mary’s at home, a true firing offense. We need to have some proper perspective here.

Just sayin’ ….

DocBarrister

Bacondoesstuff2 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 11:31 am I would Hope Holy Cross gives coach a little more rope than 2 years. I think most schools are just happy to have a program that isn't in news for wrong reasons and not embarrassing themselves. Sometimes things happen.

I think SJU is top 5 hardest programs to recruit for in D1.

Sidelinehorn! wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 11:49 am

LacrosseFan33 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 9:35 am This feel right so far? Any additions?

Hot Seat
Chris Gabrielli - Providence
Travis Johnson - NJIT

Warming Up
Tambroni - Penn State
Jason Miller - St Johns
JJ Reppert - Holy Cross

I'd move Miller to the hot seat...Add Mason Poli and Jon Basti to warming up....

Atticus wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 4:39 pm Anyone player or recruit would be wise to ignore this speculation completely.

NElaxtalent wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 7:35 pm

cherrylax wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 5:10 pm

NElaxtalent wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 12:54 pm Gotta think Chris Gabrielle, in his 10th year at Providence, has to be squarely in the crosshairs. For a small D1 school their athletic department is excellent (ie hockey is basketball, soccer), and they have built the program amazing facilities (both field/stadium as well as locker room) and seemingly have regressed on-field the past 4-5 years while High Point, Richmond, Utah, Jacksonville, St Joe's & BU etc have steadily improved.

Have heard PC put big $$$ into the last contract, would think they are looking for a better ROI than sub .500 lacrosse.

Could probably say the same thing at SHU. 5-25 in the past three years. School has put major dollars into athletics and is building a brand new hockey facility.

PC is in the Big East and a Top 10 D1 hockey & basketball school. Different level athletic department financially & expectation-wise.

LacrosseFan33 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 2:56 pm

Sidelinehorn! wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 11:49 am

LacrosseFan33 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 9:35 am This feel right so far? Any additions?

Hot Seat
Chris Gabrielli - Providence
Travis Johnson - NJIT

Warming Up
Tambroni - Penn State
Jason Miller - St Johns
JJ Reppert - Holy Cross

I'd move Miller to the hot seat...Add Mason Poli and Jon Basti to warming up....

Hot Seat
Chris Gabrielli - Providence
Travis Johnson - NJIT
Jason Miller - St Johns

Warming Up
Tambroni - Penn State
JJ Reppert - Holy Cross
Mason Poli - Quinnipiac (4th season | 15-24)
Jon Basti - Sacred Heart (9th season |41-94)

NYterp09 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 3:04 am

NElaxtalent wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 7:35 pm

cherrylax wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 5:10 pm

NElaxtalent wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 12:54 pm Gotta think Chris Gabrielle, in his 10th year at Providence, has to be squarely in the crosshairs. For a small D1 school their athletic department is excellent (ie hockey is basketball, soccer), and they have built the program amazing facilities (both field/stadium as well as locker room) and seemingly have regressed on-field the past 4-5 years while High Point, Richmond, Utah, Jacksonville, St Joe's & BU etc have steadily improved.

Have heard PC put big $$$ into the last contract, would think they are looking for a better ROI than sub .500 lacrosse.

Could probably say the same thing at SHU. 5-25 in the past three years. School has put major dollars into athletics and is building a brand new hockey facility.

PC is in the Big East and a Top 10 D1 hockey & basketball school. Different level athletic department financially & expectation-wise.

Excuse me but are you actually suggesting that providence is a top ten college basketball school? Because that might be one of the most absurd claims I’ve yet seen on this site.

ICGrad wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 4:52 pm EDIT: I should add, there's been nothing mean-spirited or hateful in this discussion at all. You want to witness a cesspool of vitriol, much of it directed at the HC, go visit the JHU or SU threads. Hell, go back a couple of years and review the crap spewed in those threads directed at their (now former) NC-winning coaches.

NElaxtalent wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 7:20 am

NYterp09 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 3:04 am

NElaxtalent wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 7:35 pm

cherrylax wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 5:10 pm

NElaxtalent wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 12:54 pm Gotta think Chris Gabrielle, in his 10th year at Providence, has to be squarely in the crosshairs. For a small D1 school their athletic department is excellent (ie hockey is basketball, soccer), and they have built the program amazing facilities (both field/stadium as well as locker room) and seemingly have regressed on-field the past 4-5 years while High Point, Richmond, Utah, Jacksonville, St Joe's & BU etc have steadily improved.

Have heard PC put big $$$ into the last contract, would think they are looking for a better ROI than sub .500 lacrosse.

Could probably say the same thing at SHU. 5-25 in the past three years. School has put major dollars into athletics and is building a brand new hockey facility.

PC is in the Big East and a Top 10 D1 hockey & basketball school. Different level athletic department financially & expectation-wise.

Excuse me but are you actually suggesting that providence is a top ten college basketball school? Because that might be one of the most absurd claims I’ve yet seen on this site.

They have a long basketball history going back to Rick Pitino and Billy Donovan. This year they were in the Top 10 and a #4 seed in the NCAA tournament, so yes they are relevant and the athletic department "cares" about a winning basketball program. Whether they are consistently Top 10 wasn't my point, it's that in the sports they invest into, they want results.... They've invested heavily into lacrosse WITHOUT results.

courtdog wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 3:39 pm Bad taste for a thread. If you want to put these men by name on the hot seat, you should have to put your own name attached as well. I have no skin in the game to any of these programs but if I had a son who played for any of these programs, it would be tough to read.

NElaxtalent wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 7:20 am

NYterp09 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 3:04 am

NElaxtalent wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 7:35 pm

cherrylax wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 5:10 pm

NElaxtalent wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 12:54 pm Gotta think Chris Gabrielle, in his 10th year at Providence, has to be squarely in the crosshairs. For a small D1 school their athletic department is excellent (ie hockey is basketball, soccer), and they have built the program amazing facilities (both field/stadium as well as locker room) and seemingly have regressed on-field the past 4-5 years while High Point, Richmond, Utah, Jacksonville, St Joe's & BU etc have steadily improved.

Have heard PC put big $$$ into the last contract, would think they are looking for a better ROI than sub .500 lacrosse.

Could probably say the same thing at SHU. 5-25 in the past three years. School has put major dollars into athletics and is building a brand new hockey facility.

PC is in the Big East and a Top 10 D1 hockey & basketball school. Different level athletic department financially & expectation-wise.

Excuse me but are you actually suggesting that providence is a top ten college basketball school? Because that might be one of the most absurd claims I’ve yet seen on this site.

They have a long basketball history going back to Rick Pitino and Billy Donovan. This year they were in the Top 10 and a #4 seed in the NCAA tournament, so yes they are relevant and the athletic department "cares" about a winning basketball program. Whether they are consistently Top 10 wasn't my point, it's that in the sports they invest into, they want results.... They've invested heavily into lacrosse WITHOUT results.

MoralTerpitude wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 8:56 pm

NElaxtalent wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 7:20 am

NYterp09 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 3:04 am

NElaxtalent wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 7:35 pm

cherrylax wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 5:10 pm

NElaxtalent wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 12:54 pm Gotta think Chris Gabrielle, in his 10th year at Providence, has to be squarely in the crosshairs. For a small D1 school their athletic department is excellent (ie hockey is basketball, soccer), and they have built the program amazing facilities (both field/stadium as well as locker room) and seemingly have regressed on-field the past 4-5 years while High Point, Richmond, Utah, Jacksonville, St Joe's & BU etc have steadily improved.

Have heard PC put big $$$ into the last contract, would think they are looking for a better ROI than sub .500 lacrosse.

Could probably say the same thing at SHU. 5-25 in the past three years. School has put major dollars into athletics and is building a brand new hockey facility.

PC is in the Big East and a Top 10 D1 hockey & basketball school. Different level athletic department financially & expectation-wise.

Also not a top 10 hockey program. Agreed won the NC a few years back, but it is a top 25 hockey program in a normal year.

Excuse me but are you actually suggesting that providence is a top ten college basketball school? Because that might be one of the most absurd claims I’ve yet seen on this site.

They have a long basketball history going back to Rick Pitino and Billy Donovan. This year they were in the Top 10 and a #4 seed in the NCAA tournament, so yes they are relevant and the athletic department "cares" about a winning basketball program. Whether they are consistently Top 10 wasn't my point, it's that in the sports they invest into, they want results.... They've invested heavily into lacrosse WITHOUT results.

Understand your point about the investment in lacrosse, but Providence is not, and never has been, a top 10 D1 basketball program. Even during the Pitino days they were at best the fourth best program in the Big East behind Georgetown, Syracuse, and St. John’s (maybe behind Villanova as well). I’m not sure they’re even top-30 in terms of programs.

Unknown Participant wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 9:26 pm

MoralTerpitude wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 8:56 pm

NElaxtalent wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 7:20 am

NYterp09 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 3:04 am

NElaxtalent wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 7:35 pm

cherrylax wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 5:10 pm

NElaxtalent wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 12:54 pm Gotta think Chris Gabrielle, in his 10th year at Providence, has to be squarely in the crosshairs. For a small D1 school their athletic department is excellent (ie hockey is basketball, soccer), and they have built the program amazing facilities (both field/stadium as well as locker room) and seemingly have regressed on-field the past 4-5 years while High Point, Richmond, Utah, Jacksonville, St Joe's & BU etc have steadily improved.

Have heard PC put big $$$ into the last contract, would think they are looking for a better ROI than sub .500 lacrosse.

Could probably say the same thing at SHU. 5-25 in the past three years. School has put major dollars into athletics and is building a brand new hockey facility.

PC is in the Big East and a Top 10 D1 hockey & basketball school. Different level athletic department financially & expectation-wise.

Also not a top 10 hockey program. Agreed won the NC a few years back, but it is a top 25 hockey program in a normal year.

Excuse me but are you actually suggesting that providence is a top ten college basketball school? Because that might be one of the most absurd claims I’ve yet seen on this site.

They have a long basketball history going back to Rick Pitino and Billy Donovan. This year they were in the Top 10 and a #4 seed in the NCAA tournament, so yes they are relevant and the athletic department "cares" about a winning basketball program. Whether they are consistently Top 10 wasn't my point, it's that in the sports they invest into, they want results.... They've invested heavily into lacrosse WITHOUT results.

Understand your point about the investment in lacrosse, but Providence is not, and never has been, a top 10 D1 basketball program. Even during the Pitino days they were at best the fourth best program in the Big East behind Georgetown, Syracuse, and St. John’s (maybe behind Villanova as well). I’m not sure they’re even top-30 in terms of programs.