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Re: media matters

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2022 9:26 am
by Kismet
tech37 wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 8:29 am Hypocrisy reigns. More egg-foo-young for Kismet
Not a fan of egg foo young anyway. ;) ;) ;)

Re: media matters

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2022 9:55 am
by admin
jhu72 wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 8:55 am... does dumbass-ness have a time limit??
Tweeeett! Personal attack after being warned. 60 Second (2 Day) Penalty. Your penalty will be released on Friday at 9:52 AM.

Re: media matters

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2022 10:06 am
by admin
runrussellrun wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 9:06 am Is this directed at a person, as in , a personal attack?
Of course, we view it as a vague, catch all, generalization towards ignorants......not a personnal attack.
no need to worry, you will be fine. Even tho, you were warned....it doesn't stop you.
such a principled place..........
Tweeeet! Referee's time-out. Pulls RRR aside and quietly and calmly says, Run, as a general rule, I ignore the attacks on me and the refereeing of this game. For whatever reason, in sports, attacking the ref has become part of the game. But when the attacks are coming from one player repeatedly, this is different. Take it down a notch. Tweeeeettt! Play Ooooooooooooooon!!!!

Re: media matters

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2022 10:13 am
by runrussellrun
admin wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 10:06 am
runrussellrun wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 9:06 am Is this directed at a person, as in , a personal attack?
Of course, we view it as a vague, catch all, generalization towards ignorants......not a personnal attack.
no need to worry, you will be fine. Even tho, you were warned....it doesn't stop you.
such a principled place..........
Tweeeet! Referee's time-out. Pulls RRR aside and quietly and calmly says, Run, as a general rule, I ignore the attacks on me and the refereeing of this game. For whatever reason, in sports, attacking the ref has become part of the game. But when the attacks are coming from one player repeatedly, this is different. Take it down a notch. Tweeeeettt! Play Ooooooooooooooon!!!!
What is the angle of calling everyone a "player" ? Why can't some of us be "coaches" or AD's ? :D

Re: media matters

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2022 11:08 am
by tech37
jhu72 wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 8:37 am
tech37 wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 8:22 am From Glenn Greenwald's feed, here's the "paradox" mentioned couple days ago. It's an old article but "rust never sleeps." Hope the woke cancelers don't find out about this...what will they do?

The good, the bad and the Shakey

If you love Neil Young, you have to learn to turn an indulgent eye on the trashy music and trashier comments. Xan Brooks explains how he's come to terms with being a true fan

Politically-speaking, its hard to exorcise the ghost of his 1980s pronouncements, when he swung hard-right behind the Reagan presidency and lashed out at gays ("you go to the supermarket and you see a faggot behind the F 'ing cash register, you don't want him to handle your potatoes") and welfare spongers. "Stop being supported by the government and get out and work," Neil advised. "You have to make the weak stand up on one leg, or half a leg, whatever they've got."

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2003/ ... .neilyoung
.... guess it doesn't apply to me. I am not "a true" Neil Young fan. Like a few things he has done but don't worship the guy. He has his right to his opinion, even if I don't agree with it.
72 backpedaled himself right into the penalty box :lol:

Re: media matters

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2022 12:04 pm
by get it to x
Jeff Zucker just resigned from CNN due to a personal relationship with a colleague. The colleague just happened to be a former Cuomo comms director. So as of now the Cuomos have taken out each other, Zucker, Alphonso David of The Human Rights Campaign as well as Tina Tchen and Roberta Kaplan of Times Up!. Am I missing anyone?

Re: media matters

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2022 12:15 pm
by runrussellrun
get it to x wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 12:04 pm Jeff Zucker just resigned from CNN due to a personal relationship with a colleague. The colleague just happened to be a former Cuomo comms director. So as of now the Cuomos have taken out each other, Zucker, Alphonso David of The Human Rights Campaign as well as Tina Tchen and Roberta Kaplan of Times Up!. Am I missing anyone?
Is Ted Turner still around ?

Do the way fewer viewers mean that that "you're dying of cancer, so , here, take this drug to live longer " advertisement rates, low ? Like Baltimore home values, low ?

Re: media matters

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2022 1:17 pm
by old salt
jhu72 wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 8:45 am
DMac wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 8:26 am
jhu72 wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 8:21 am
DMac wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 8:15 am
old salt wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 1:57 am
DMac wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:20 pm ...it don't get better 'n this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBLruNfUqUs
...try this. (RIP Meatloaf)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGEIcdYOuHo
Wow, just fantastic!!
Thanks for posting.
...more mellow than MeatLoaf.
Just a titch, eh?
He did quite a job with that, outstanding rendition.
yup
That was by design. Imus produced & released 2 albums to support his "charity ' ranch in which he asked his singer friends to cover songs that they might not otherwise do. He picked unlikely pairings which he thought would be as good as the original, just different.
Some of the singers resisted, at first. Imus had to push them out of their comfort zone. It worked.
I really like Meatloaf, but I think JJ's rendition did better justice to Jim Steinman's brilliant songwriting.
It makes the listener focus on the lyrics & the sentiment being conveyed.

Re: media matters

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2022 4:01 pm
by Peter Brown
runrussellrun wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 12:15 pm
get it to x wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 12:04 pm Jeff Zucker just resigned from CNN due to a personal relationship with a colleague. The colleague just happened to be a former Cuomo comms director. So as of now the Cuomos have taken out each other, Zucker, Alphonso David of The Human Rights Campaign as well as Tina Tchen and Roberta Kaplan of Times Up!. Am I missing anyone?
Is Ted Turner still around ?

Do the way fewer viewers mean that that "you're dying of cancer, so , here, take this drug to live longer " advertisement rates, low ? Like Baltimore home values, low ?





CNN’s ratings are trash. Too many ‘shows’ and not enough news.

ATT basically owns CNN right now, but CNN is leaving when the media division called Warner Brothers Discovery (WBD) is spun out mid year this year. The interesting thing is, it’s not a certainty that WBD even wants it. David Zsaslav will be chair and CEO but he’s noncommittal on keeping CNN. John Malone appears to be the largest shareholder, and he’s agitating to getting CNN back to its news days:

https://www.mediaite.com/uncategorized/ ... ournalism/

It sounds like CNN is on its own for the time being, without any real accountability to anyone. Now with Zucker gone, and a three-headed replacement, who knows what happens.

Re: media matters

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2022 4:47 pm
by Farfromgeneva
runrussellrun wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 10:13 am
admin wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 10:06 am
runrussellrun wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 9:06 am Is this directed at a person, as in , a personal attack?
Of course, we view it as a vague, catch all, generalization towards ignorants......not a personnal attack.
no need to worry, you will be fine. Even tho, you were warned....it doesn't stop you.
such a principled place..........
Tweeeet! Referee's time-out. Pulls RRR aside and quietly and calmly says, Run, as a general rule, I ignore the attacks on me and the refereeing of this game. For whatever reason, in sports, attacking the ref has become part of the game. But when the attacks are coming from one player repeatedly, this is different. Take it down a notch. Tweeeeettt! Play Ooooooooooooooon!!!!
What is the angle of calling everyone a "player" ? Why can't some of us be "coaches" or AD's ? :D
You have to put in the work and earn that.

Re: media matters

Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 2:00 pm
by Kismet
Neil Young expands on his decision to leave Spotify - Did not realize how Spotify reduces the data feed in digital music to stream more content at a lower quality level. Makes sense for Young on one level but doesn''t explain why he accepted those terms from Spotify in the first place if, in his opinion, it significantly degraded the quality of his music.

https://americansongwriter.com/in-their ... 1643913446

"I support free speech. I have never been in favor of censorship. Private companies have the right to choose what they profit from, just as I can choose not to have my music support a platform that disseminates harmful information. I am happy and proud to stand in solidarity with the front line health care workers who risk their lives every day to help others.

“As an unexpected bonus, I sound better everywhere else. But in the new letter, which Young posted earlier this week, he wrote: “When I left SPOTIFY, I felt better.”

He wrote in full, “Digital music has been with us about 40 years now. Digital, rather than reproducing copies of the music as we did back in the analog day, reconstitutes it from 1s and 0s and plays back data that you hear as music.

“This allows business people like those who run SPOTIFY to cut the quality right down to 5% of the music’s content. It’s just math. It’s easy to do that with digital, thus allowing more songs and less music to stream faster. That’s because 95% is missing. Thats what SPOTIFY the Tech company does. SPOTIFY then sells you the downgraded music.

“When I started everyone got to hear all the music. 100%.

“AMAZON, APPLE MUSIC and Qobuz deliver up to 100% of the music today and it sounds a lot better than the sh*tty degraded and neutered sound of SPOTIFY. If you support SPOTIFY, you are destroying an art form. Business over art. SPOTIFY plays the artist’s music at 5% of its quality and charges you like it was the real thing."

Re: media matters

Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 2:35 pm
by cradleandshoot
Kismet wrote: Thu Feb 03, 2022 2:00 pm up
Neil Young expands on his decision to leave Spotify - Did not realize how Spotify reduces the data feed in digital music to stream more content at a lower quality level. Makes sense for Young on one level but doesn''t explain why he accepted those terms from Spotify in the first place if, in his opinion, it significantly degraded the quality of his music.


https://americansongwriter.com/in-their ... 1643913446

"I support free speech. I have never been in favor of censorship. Private companies have the right to choose what they profit from, just as I can choose not to have my music support a platform that disseminates harmful information. I am happy and proud to stand in solidarity with the front line health care workers who risk their lives every day to help others.

“As an unexpected bonus, I sound better everywhere else. But in the new letter, which Young posted earlier this week, he wrote: “When I left SPOTIFY, I felt better.”

He wrote in full, “Digital music has been with us about 40 years now. Digital, rather than reproducing copies of the music as we did back in the analog day, reconstitutes it from 1s and 0s and plays back data that you hear as music.

“This allows business people like those who run SPOTIFY to cut the quality right down to 5% of the music’s content. It’s just math. It’s easy to do that with digital, thus allowing more songs and less music to stream faster. That’s because 95% is missing. Thats what SPOTIFY the Tech company does. SPOTIFY then sells you the downgraded music.

“When I started everyone got to hear all the music. 100%.

“AMAZON, APPLE MUSIC and Qobuz deliver up to 100% of the music today and it sounds a lot better than the sh*tty degraded and neutered sound of SPOTIFY. If you support SPOTIFY, you are destroying an art form. Business over art. SPOTIFY plays the artist’s music at 5% of its quality and charges you like it was the real thing."
I still think a brand new generation of 18 year olds were saying... Who the eff is Neil Young? He looks like a guy that was just pulled out head first from a dumpster. Neil had the grunge look down way before Nirvana and Kurt Cobain.

Re: media matters

Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 2:36 pm
by youthathletics
:lol: :lol:

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Re: media matters

Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 2:42 pm
by cradleandshoot
youthathletics wrote: Thu Feb 03, 2022 2:36 pm :lol: :lol:

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Don't get me wrong. I have been a Neil Young fan for a very long time. His music had a lot to do with me wanting to play acoustic guitar. For goodness sakes Neil, a shave and a shower and a haircut can go a long ways.

Re: media matters

Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 2:44 pm
by Peter Brown
cradleandshoot wrote: Thu Feb 03, 2022 2:42 pm
youthathletics wrote: Thu Feb 03, 2022 2:36 pm :lol: :lol:

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Don't get me wrong. I have been a Neil Young fan for a very long time. His music had a lot to do with me wanting to play acoustic guitar. For goodness sakes Neil, a shave and a shower and a haircut can go a long ways.


I don’t think the cancel culture mob is done with Spotify just yet. I’d expect some big names to depart, then bigger names, until the left hoist the CEO’s head up for all to see, because it’s all about conformity and state obedience anymore.

Re: media matters

Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 2:47 pm
by DMac
youthathletics wrote: Thu Feb 03, 2022 2:36 pm :lol: :lol:

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:lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: media matters

Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 2:58 pm
by cradleandshoot
DMac wrote: Thu Feb 03, 2022 2:47 pm
youthathletics wrote: Thu Feb 03, 2022 2:36 pm :lol: :lol:

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:lol: :lol: :lol:
"Well your an old hippie and you don't know what to do. Should I hang on to the old or should I grab on to the new. I'm an old hippie and this new life is just a bust. I'm not trying to change nobody, I'm just trying real hard to adjust"

Re: media matters

Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 3:09 pm
by DMac
I don't get caught up in much of anything anymore, cradle. Que sera,sera, ya know.
Too much media, too much politics, too much inaccurate information, too much
arguing (non stop) for my taste anymore. I just thought the "when you're so woke
you cancel yourself" was pretty clever and funny. I haven't watched the news or
any of the talking heads for a long time. Highly recommend it, I aint missin' nuthin
brotha.

Just as an add, you click on the weather today to see what's happening and it's all
in red with exclamation points and warnings. We're going to get up to a foot of snow
(maybe). Imagine that in Syracuse in February. Everything is scary in the world anymore.
Speaking of February, did you guys see what the groundhog saw for a shadow on Groundhog's
Day? Season's on, boys, it's official.
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Re: media matters

Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 3:44 pm
by Farfromgeneva
Kismet wrote: Thu Feb 03, 2022 2:00 pm Neil Young expands on his decision to leave Spotify - Did not realize how Spotify reduces the data feed in digital music to stream more content at a lower quality level. Makes sense for Young on one level but doesn''t explain why he accepted those terms from Spotify in the first place if, in his opinion, it significantly degraded the quality of his music.

https://americansongwriter.com/in-their ... 1643913446

"I support free speech. I have never been in favor of censorship. Private companies have the right to choose what they profit from, just as I can choose not to have my music support a platform that disseminates harmful information. I am happy and proud to stand in solidarity with the front line health care workers who risk their lives every day to help others.

“As an unexpected bonus, I sound better everywhere else. But in the new letter, which Young posted earlier this week, he wrote: “When I left SPOTIFY, I felt better.”

He wrote in full, “Digital music has been with us about 40 years now. Digital, rather than reproducing copies of the music as we did back in the analog day, reconstitutes it from 1s and 0s and plays back data that you hear as music.

“This allows business people like those who run SPOTIFY to cut the quality right down to 5% of the music’s content. It’s just math. It’s easy to do that with digital, thus allowing more songs and less music to stream faster. That’s because 95% is missing. Thats what SPOTIFY the Tech company does. SPOTIFY then sells you the downgraded music.

“When I started everyone got to hear all the music. 100%.

“AMAZON, APPLE MUSIC and Qobuz deliver up to 100% of the music today and it sounds a lot better than the sh*tty degraded and neutered sound of SPOTIFY. If you support SPOTIFY, you are destroying an art form. Business over art. SPOTIFY plays the artist’s music at 5% of its quality and charges you like it was the real thing."
A. That’s the more legitimate reason many folks are going retro w vinyl (the illegitimate reason being the whole hipster, steampunk, handlebar mustache over beaver teeth Williamsburg unicyclist with a fedora insists retro is better because the contemporary world left them out in HS)
B. Digital can be art unto itself. David Byrne has been working this angle for a decade or more now. It’s digital Distribution for the profit motive wrapped in a business model, not the conversion, that’s the issue but an important distinction.

https://davidbyrne.com/explore/how-music-works/about

Re: media matters

Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 3:48 pm
by Farfromgeneva
cradleandshoot wrote: Thu Feb 03, 2022 2:35 pm
Kismet wrote: Thu Feb 03, 2022 2:00 pm up
Neil Young expands on his decision to leave Spotify - Did not realize how Spotify reduces the data feed in digital music to stream more content at a lower quality level. Makes sense for Young on one level but doesn''t explain why he accepted those terms from Spotify in the first place if, in his opinion, it significantly degraded the quality of his music.


https://americansongwriter.com/in-their ... 1643913446

"I support free speech. I have never been in favor of censorship. Private companies have the right to choose what they profit from, just as I can choose not to have my music support a platform that disseminates harmful information. I am happy and proud to stand in solidarity with the front line health care workers who risk their lives every day to help others.

“As an unexpected bonus, I sound better everywhere else. But in the new letter, which Young posted earlier this week, he wrote: “When I left SPOTIFY, I felt better.”

He wrote in full, “Digital music has been with us about 40 years now. Digital, rather than reproducing copies of the music as we did back in the analog day, reconstitutes it from 1s and 0s and plays back data that you hear as music.

“This allows business people like those who run SPOTIFY to cut the quality right down to 5% of the music’s content. It’s just math. It’s easy to do that with digital, thus allowing more songs and less music to stream faster. That’s because 95% is missing. Thats what SPOTIFY the Tech company does. SPOTIFY then sells you the downgraded music.

“When I started everyone got to hear all the music. 100%.

“AMAZON, APPLE MUSIC and Qobuz deliver up to 100% of the music today and it sounds a lot better than the sh*tty degraded and neutered sound of SPOTIFY. If you support SPOTIFY, you are destroying an art form. Business over art. SPOTIFY plays the artist’s music at 5% of its quality and charges you like it was the real thing."
I still think a brand new generation of 18 year olds were saying... Who the eff is Neil Young? He looks like a guy that was just pulled out head first from a dumpster. Neil had the grunge look down way before Nirvana and Kurt Cobain.
Hippies are dirty.