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MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 9:37 am

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2023 9:40 amThank God it took slavery to teach black people these skills:

And yet OS is busy arguing with a fan over this...

old salt wrote: ↑Mon Sep 04, 2023 6:19 am

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 9:37 am

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2023 9:40 amThank God it took slavery to teach black people these skills:

And yet OS is busy arguing with a fan over this...

oh, my my ...looky here...wjatta 'ya know.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2023/09/ ... lly-awful/

Earlier this year, the Florida Department of Education adopted new social-studies standards. The updated standards include a section for black history. The black history section, which fills 19 pages and includes more than 185 references to slavery, segregation, and racism, covers everything from “the struggles and successes for access to equal educational opportunities for African Americans,” to “how slave codes were strengthened in response to Africans’ resistance to slavery,” to “how slave codes resulted in an enslaved person becoming property with no rights.”

One sentence in the updated standards reads, “Instruction includes how slaves developed skills which, in some instances, could be applied for their personal benefit.” It turns out that that sentence, which prompted vehement condemnations of DeSantis, is nearly identical to the language included in the College Board’s most up-to-date Advanced Placement African American Studies course framework, which says that slaves learned “specialized trades” and after being freed could use “these skills to provide for themselves and others.” When Florida rejected the Advanced Placement framework earlier this year, it prompted a round of outrage against DeSantis from people who hailed it as essential for the education of young people. No objection was made at the time to its reference to slaves’ learning “specialized trades” and “skills.” The people howling now about the language conveying a simple historical fact in the state’s new African-American history standards are the same ones who howled when the state rejected a framework that included near-identical language conveying the same fact. DeSantis is damned either way. No matter what he does, the press will fault him.

old salt wrote: ↑Mon Sep 04, 2023 6:19 am

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 9:37 am

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2023 9:40 amThank God it took slavery to teach black people these skills:

And yet OS is busy arguing with a fan over this...

oh, my my ...looky here...wjatta 'ya know.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2023/09/ ... lly-awful/

Earlier this year, the Florida Department of Education adopted new social-studies standards. The updated standards include a section for black history. The black history section, which fills 19 pages and includes more than 185 references to slavery, segregation, and racism, covers everything from “the struggles and successes for access to equal educational opportunities for African Americans,” to “how slave codes were strengthened in response to Africans’ resistance to slavery,” to “how slave codes resulted in an enslaved person becoming property with no rights.”

One sentence in the updated standards reads, “Instruction includes how slaves developed skills which, in some instances, could be applied for their personal benefit.” It turns out that that sentence, which prompted vehement condemnations of DeSantis, is nearly identical to the language included in the College Board’s most up-to-date Advanced Placement African American Studies course framework, which says that slaves learned “specialized trades” and after being freed could use “these skills to provide for themselves and others.” When Florida rejected the Advanced Placement framework earlier this year, it prompted a round of outrage against DeSantis from people who hailed it as essential for the education of young people. No objection was made at the time to its reference to slaves’ learning “specialized trades” and “skills.” The people howling now about the language conveying a simple historical fact in the state’s new African-American history standards are the same ones who howled when the state rejected a framework that included near-identical language conveying the same fact. DeSantis is damned either way. No matter what he does, the press will fault him.

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 04, 2023 9:13 am

old salt wrote: ↑Mon Sep 04, 2023 6:19 am

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 9:37 am

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2023 9:40 amThank God it took slavery to teach black people these skills:

And yet OS is busy arguing with a fan over this...

oh, my my ...looky here...wjatta 'ya know.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2023/09/ ... lly-awful/

Earlier this year, the Florida Department of Education adopted new social-studies standards. The updated standards include a section for black history. The black history section, which fills 19 pages and includes more than 185 references to slavery, segregation, and racism, covers everything from “the struggles and successes for access to equal educational opportunities for African Americans,” to “how slave codes were strengthened in response to Africans’ resistance to slavery,” to “how slave codes resulted in an enslaved person becoming property with no rights.”

One sentence in the updated standards reads, “Instruction includes how slaves developed skills which, in some instances, could be applied for their personal benefit.” It turns out that that sentence, which prompted vehement condemnations of DeSantis, is nearly identical to the language included in the College Board’s most up-to-date Advanced Placement African American Studies course framework, which says that slaves learned “specialized trades” and after being freed could use “these skills to provide for themselves and others.” When Florida rejected the Advanced Placement framework earlier this year, it prompted a round of outrage against DeSantis from people who hailed it as essential for the education of young people. No objection was made at the time to its reference to slaves’ learning “specialized trades” and “skills.” The people howling now about the language conveying a simple historical fact in the state’s new African-American history standards are the same ones who howled when the state rejected a framework that included near-identical language conveying the same fact. DeSantis is damned either way. No matter what he does, the press will fault him.

Salty,
As usual, you and the National Review (white supremacist) apologists like Becket Adams miss the major point of the critique.

It is not simply or solely the specific words but rather what the message is, including context, which includes what has been purposely excised from the history curriculum.

If you'd like to read the entire African American Studies AP curriculum, here it is: https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/26/us/ap-af ... index.html

The Florida curriculum went out of its way to excise important analysis of the legacy implications of slavery, Jim Crow, etc and it avoided or minimized or equivocated specific events, shaping it to be consistent with Lost Cause propaganda...this could not have been unconscious, as any serious historian who knows how intentionally that propaganda was used to support supremacist ideology, which still persists, would have flagged it.

Moreover, this effort exists within the context of the laws passed by DeSantis and the GOP legislature which threatens teachers who teach what is missing. And it exists within the context of the "parents' rights" movement that claims to be concerned with the "guilt" feelings of white kids.

But to your minor point of the language similarity, perhaps you missed that the language is not the same, indeed the article writer needed to insert their own words linking the phrases to create a meaning similar to what Florida explicitly did.

Last, in addition to DeSantis' other actions and statements around this topic making clear what his intent is in curriculum and teacher and school control, his defense of the change and these words spoke volumes about how he didn't understand (or actually wanted) the offense given. It could have been so easy to simply say "I see how those words could be read that way, I'll ask our curriculum group to rework the language to make clear that students shouldn't be taught that slaves benefited from their slavery." Easy peasy...but nope.

youthathletics wrote: ↑Mon Sep 04, 2023 9:59 am Someone is feeling better and ready for attack mode....happy to see you are on the mend.

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Mon Sep 04, 2023 11:10 am

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 04, 2023 9:13 am

old salt wrote: ↑Mon Sep 04, 2023 6:19 am

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 9:37 am

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2023 9:40 amThank God it took slavery to teach black people these skills:

And yet OS is busy arguing with a fan over this...

oh, my my ...looky here...wjatta 'ya know.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2023/09/ ... lly-awful/

Earlier this year, the Florida Department of Education adopted new social-studies standards. The updated standards include a section for black history. The black history section, which fills 19 pages and includes more than 185 references to slavery, segregation, and racism, covers everything from “the struggles and successes for access to equal educational opportunities for African Americans,” to “how slave codes were strengthened in response to Africans’ resistance to slavery,” to “how slave codes resulted in an enslaved person becoming property with no rights.”

One sentence in the updated standards reads, “Instruction includes how slaves developed skills which, in some instances, could be applied for their personal benefit.” It turns out that that sentence, which prompted vehement condemnations of DeSantis, is nearly identical to the language included in the College Board’s most up-to-date Advanced Placement African American Studies course framework, which says that slaves learned “specialized trades” and after being freed could use “these skills to provide for themselves and others.” When Florida rejected the Advanced Placement framework earlier this year, it prompted a round of outrage against DeSantis from people who hailed it as essential for the education of young people. No objection was made at the time to its reference to slaves’ learning “specialized trades” and “skills.” The people howling now about the language conveying a simple historical fact in the state’s new African-American history standards are the same ones who howled when the state rejected a framework that included near-identical language conveying the same fact. DeSantis is damned either way. No matter what he does, the press will fault him.

Salty,
As usual, you and the National Review (white supremacist) apologists like Becket Adams miss the major point of the critique.

It is not simply or solely the specific words but rather what the message is, including context, which includes what has been purposely excised from the history curriculum.

If you'd like to read the entire African American Studies AP curriculum, here it is: https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/26/us/ap-af ... index.html

The Florida curriculum went out of its way to excise important analysis of the legacy implications of slavery, Jim Crow, etc and it avoided or minimized or equivocated specific events, shaping it to be consistent with Lost Cause propaganda...this could not have been unconscious, as any serious historian who knows how intentionally that propaganda was used to support supremacist ideology, which still persists, would have flagged it.

Moreover, this effort exists within the context of the laws passed by DeSantis and the GOP legislature which threatens teachers who teach what is missing. And it exists within the context of the "parents' rights" movement that claims to be concerned with the "guilt" feelings of white kids.

But to your minor point of the language similarity, perhaps you missed that the language is not the same, indeed the article writer needed to insert their own words linking the phrases to create a meaning similar to what Florida explicitly did.

Last, in addition to DeSantis' other actions and statements around this topic making clear what his intent is in curriculum and teacher and school control, his defense of the change and these words spoke volumes about how he didn't understand (or actually wanted) the offense given. It could have been so easy to simply say "I see how those words could be read that way, I'll ask our curriculum group to rework the language to make clear that students shouldn't be taught that slaves benefited from their slavery." Easy peasy...but nope.

Salty believes that one simple concept is the only reason people have pushed back on DeSantis and his whitewashing effort…..folk ain’t that stupid, despite what Salty seems to believe.

a fan wrote: ↑Mon Sep 04, 2023 12:03 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Mon Sep 04, 2023 11:10 am

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 04, 2023 9:13 am

old salt wrote: ↑Mon Sep 04, 2023 6:19 am

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 9:37 am

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2023 9:40 amThank God it took slavery to teach black people these skills:

And yet OS is busy arguing with a fan over this...

oh, my my ...looky here...wjatta 'ya know.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2023/09/ ... lly-awful/

Earlier this year, the Florida Department of Education adopted new social-studies standards. The updated standards include a section for black history. The black history section, which fills 19 pages and includes more than 185 references to slavery, segregation, and racism, covers everything from “the struggles and successes for access to equal educational opportunities for African Americans,” to “how slave codes were strengthened in response to Africans’ resistance to slavery,” to “how slave codes resulted in an enslaved person becoming property with no rights.”

One sentence in the updated standards reads, “Instruction includes how slaves developed skills which, in some instances, could be applied for their personal benefit.” It turns out that that sentence, which prompted vehement condemnations of DeSantis, is nearly identical to the language included in the College Board’s most up-to-date Advanced Placement African American Studies course framework, which says that slaves learned “specialized trades” and after being freed could use “these skills to provide for themselves and others.” When Florida rejected the Advanced Placement framework earlier this year, it prompted a round of outrage against DeSantis from people who hailed it as essential for the education of young people. No objection was made at the time to its reference to slaves’ learning “specialized trades” and “skills.” The people howling now about the language conveying a simple historical fact in the state’s new African-American history standards are the same ones who howled when the state rejected a framework that included near-identical language conveying the same fact. DeSantis is damned either way. No matter what he does, the press will fault him.

Salty,
As usual, you and the National Review (white supremacist) apologists like Becket Adams miss the major point of the critique.

It is not simply or solely the specific words but rather what the message is, including context, which includes what has been purposely excised from the history curriculum.

If you'd like to read the entire African American Studies AP curriculum, here it is: https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/26/us/ap-af ... index.html

The Florida curriculum went out of its way to excise important analysis of the legacy implications of slavery, Jim Crow, etc and it avoided or minimized or equivocated specific events, shaping it to be consistent with Lost Cause propaganda...this could not have been unconscious, as any serious historian who knows how intentionally that propaganda was used to support supremacist ideology, which still persists, would have flagged it.

Moreover, this effort exists within the context of the laws passed by DeSantis and the GOP legislature which threatens teachers who teach what is missing. And it exists within the context of the "parents' rights" movement that claims to be concerned with the "guilt" feelings of white kids.

But to your minor point of the language similarity, perhaps you missed that the language is not the same, indeed the article writer needed to insert their own words linking the phrases to create a meaning similar to what Florida explicitly did.

Last, in addition to DeSantis' other actions and statements around this topic making clear what his intent is in curriculum and teacher and school control, his defense of the change and these words spoke volumes about how he didn't understand (or actually wanted) the offense given. It could have been so easy to simply say "I see how those words could be read that way, I'll ask our curriculum group to rework the language to make clear that students shouldn't be taught that slaves benefited from their slavery." Easy peasy...but nope.

Salty believes that one simple concept is the only reason people have pushed back on DeSantis and his whitewashing effort…..folk ain’t that stupid, despite what Salty seems to believe.

Old news. This happened in July, and the College Board that runs AP course already issued their statement.

Kismet wrote: ↑Mon Sep 04, 2023 1:28 pm

a fan wrote: ↑Mon Sep 04, 2023 12:03 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Mon Sep 04, 2023 11:10 am

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 04, 2023 9:13 am

old salt wrote: ↑Mon Sep 04, 2023 6:19 am

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 9:37 am

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2023 9:40 amThank God it took slavery to teach black people these skills:

And yet OS is busy arguing with a fan over this...

oh, my my ...looky here...wjatta 'ya know.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2023/09/ ... lly-awful/

Earlier this year, the Florida Department of Education adopted new social-studies standards. The updated standards include a section for black history. The black history section, which fills 19 pages and includes more than 185 references to slavery, segregation, and racism, covers everything from “the struggles and successes for access to equal educational opportunities for African Americans,” to “how slave codes were strengthened in response to Africans’ resistance to slavery,” to “how slave codes resulted in an enslaved person becoming property with no rights.”

One sentence in the updated standards reads, “Instruction includes how slaves developed skills which, in some instances, could be applied for their personal benefit.” It turns out that that sentence, which prompted vehement condemnations of DeSantis, is nearly identical to the language included in the College Board’s most up-to-date Advanced Placement African American Studies course framework, which says that slaves learned “specialized trades” and after being freed could use “these skills to provide for themselves and others.” When Florida rejected the Advanced Placement framework earlier this year, it prompted a round of outrage against DeSantis from people who hailed it as essential for the education of young people. No objection was made at the time to its reference to slaves’ learning “specialized trades” and “skills.” The people howling now about the language conveying a simple historical fact in the state’s new African-American history standards are the same ones who howled when the state rejected a framework that included near-identical language conveying the same fact. DeSantis is damned either way. No matter what he does, the press will fault him.

Salty,
As usual, you and the National Review (white supremacist) apologists like Becket Adams miss the major point of the critique.

It is not simply or solely the specific words but rather what the message is, including context, which includes what has been purposely excised from the history curriculum.

If you'd like to read the entire African American Studies AP curriculum, here it is: https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/26/us/ap-af ... index.html

The Florida curriculum went out of its way to excise important analysis of the legacy implications of slavery, Jim Crow, etc and it avoided or minimized or equivocated specific events, shaping it to be consistent with Lost Cause propaganda...this could not have been unconscious, as any serious historian who knows how intentionally that propaganda was used to support supremacist ideology, which still persists, would have flagged it.

Moreover, this effort exists within the context of the laws passed by DeSantis and the GOP legislature which threatens teachers who teach what is missing. And it exists within the context of the "parents' rights" movement that claims to be concerned with the "guilt" feelings of white kids.

But to your minor point of the language similarity, perhaps you missed that the language is not the same, indeed the article writer needed to insert their own words linking the phrases to create a meaning similar to what Florida explicitly did.

Last, in addition to DeSantis' other actions and statements around this topic making clear what his intent is in curriculum and teacher and school control, his defense of the change and these words spoke volumes about how he didn't understand (or actually wanted) the offense given. It could have been so easy to simply say "I see how those words could be read that way, I'll ask our curriculum group to rework the language to make clear that students shouldn't be taught that slaves benefited from their slavery." Easy peasy...but nope.

Salty believes that one simple concept is the only reason people have pushed back on DeSantis and his whitewashing effort…..folk ain’t that stupid, despite what Salty seems to believe.

Old news. This happened in July, and the College Board that runs AP course already issued their statement.

So typical of NR propaganda that Salty laps up daily.

In the meantime, big Nazi rally near Orlando yesterday complete with Hitler salutes - even the NY Post is outraged

https://nypost.com/2023/09/03/neo-nazis ... verywhere/

Crickets from Ron who was too busy blowing off the President.

youthathletics wrote: ↑Mon Sep 04, 2023 9:59 am Someone is feeling better and ready for attack mode....happy to see you are on the mend.

Kismet wrote: ↑Mon Sep 04, 2023 1:28 pm

a fan wrote: ↑Mon Sep 04, 2023 12:03 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Mon Sep 04, 2023 11:10 am

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 04, 2023 9:13 am

old salt wrote: ↑Mon Sep 04, 2023 6:19 am

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 9:37 am

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2023 9:40 amThank God it took slavery to teach black people these skills:

And yet OS is busy arguing with a fan over this...

oh, my my ...looky here...wjatta 'ya know.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2023/09/ ... lly-awful/

Earlier this year, the Florida Department of Education adopted new social-studies standards. The updated standards include a section for black history. The black history section, which fills 19 pages and includes more than 185 references to slavery, segregation, and racism, covers everything from “the struggles and successes for access to equal educational opportunities for African Americans,” to “how slave codes were strengthened in response to Africans’ resistance to slavery,” to “how slave codes resulted in an enslaved person becoming property with no rights.”

One sentence in the updated standards reads, “Instruction includes how slaves developed skills which, in some instances, could be applied for their personal benefit.” It turns out that that sentence, which prompted vehement condemnations of DeSantis, is nearly identical to the language included in the College Board’s most up-to-date Advanced Placement African American Studies course framework, which says that slaves learned “specialized trades” and after being freed could use “these skills to provide for themselves and others.” When Florida rejected the Advanced Placement framework earlier this year, it prompted a round of outrage against DeSantis from people who hailed it as essential for the education of young people. No objection was made at the time to its reference to slaves’ learning “specialized trades” and “skills.” The people howling now about the language conveying a simple historical fact in the state’s new African-American history standards are the same ones who howled when the state rejected a framework that included near-identical language conveying the same fact. DeSantis is damned either way. No matter what he does, the press will fault him.

Salty,
As usual, you and the National Review (white supremacist) apologists like Becket Adams miss the major point of the critique.

It is not simply or solely the specific words but rather what the message is, including context, which includes what has been purposely excised from the history curriculum.

If you'd like to read the entire African American Studies AP curriculum, here it is: https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/26/us/ap-af ... index.html

The Florida curriculum went out of its way to excise important analysis of the legacy implications of slavery, Jim Crow, etc and it avoided or minimized or equivocated specific events, shaping it to be consistent with Lost Cause propaganda...this could not have been unconscious, as any serious historian who knows how intentionally that propaganda was used to support supremacist ideology, which still persists, would have flagged it.

Moreover, this effort exists within the context of the laws passed by DeSantis and the GOP legislature which threatens teachers who teach what is missing. And it exists within the context of the "parents' rights" movement that claims to be concerned with the "guilt" feelings of white kids.

But to your minor point of the language similarity, perhaps you missed that the language is not the same, indeed the article writer needed to insert their own words linking the phrases to create a meaning similar to what Florida explicitly did.

Last, in addition to DeSantis' other actions and statements around this topic making clear what his intent is in curriculum and teacher and school control, his defense of the change and these words spoke volumes about how he didn't understand (or actually wanted) the offense given. It could have been so easy to simply say "I see how those words could be read that way, I'll ask our curriculum group to rework the language to make clear that students shouldn't be taught that slaves benefited from their slavery." Easy peasy...but nope.

Salty believes that one simple concept is the only reason people have pushed back on DeSantis and his whitewashing effort…..folk ain’t that stupid, despite what Salty seems to believe.

Old news. This happened in July, and the College Board that runs AP course already issued their statement.

So typical of NR propaganda that Salty laps up daily.

In the meantime, big Nazi rally near Orlando yesterday complete with Hitler salutes - even the NY Post is outraged

https://nypost.com/2023/09/03/neo-nazis ... verywhere/

Crickets from Ron who was too busy blowing off the President.

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Sep 03, 2023 12:27 pm

kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Sun Sep 03, 2023 8:51 am I'd say, all sides.

Yep….the history of this country has shown that all sides have been equally racist and equally disadvantaged.….legally, socially and institutionally.

kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Mon Sep 04, 2023 8:17 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Sep 03, 2023 12:27 pm

kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Sun Sep 03, 2023 8:51 am I'd say, all sides.

Yep….the history of this country has shown that all sides have been equally racist and equally disadvantaged.….legally, socially and institutionally.

We were talking about hate, not institutional racism.

Kismet wrote: ↑Mon Sep 04, 2023 1:28 pm

a fan wrote: ↑Mon Sep 04, 2023 12:03 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Mon Sep 04, 2023 11:10 am

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 04, 2023 9:13 am

old salt wrote: ↑Mon Sep 04, 2023 6:19 am

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 9:37 am

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2023 9:40 amThank God it took slavery to teach black people these skills:

And yet OS is busy arguing with a fan over this...

oh, my my ...looky here...wjatta 'ya know.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2023/09/ ... lly-awful/

Earlier this year, the Florida Department of Education adopted new social-studies standards. The updated standards include a section for black history. The black history section, which fills 19 pages and includes more than 185 references to slavery, segregation, and racism, covers everything from “the struggles and successes for access to equal educational opportunities for African Americans,” to “how slave codes were strengthened in response to Africans’ resistance to slavery,” to “how slave codes resulted in an enslaved person becoming property with no rights.”

One sentence in the updated standards reads, “Instruction includes how slaves developed skills which, in some instances, could be applied for their personal benefit.” It turns out that that sentence, which prompted vehement condemnations of DeSantis, is nearly identical to the language included in the College Board’s most up-to-date Advanced Placement African American Studies course framework, which says that slaves learned “specialized trades” and after being freed could use “these skills to provide for themselves and others.” When Florida rejected the Advanced Placement framework earlier this year, it prompted a round of outrage against DeSantis from people who hailed it as essential for the education of young people. No objection was made at the time to its reference to slaves’ learning “specialized trades” and “skills.” The people howling now about the language conveying a simple historical fact in the state’s new African-American history standards are the same ones who howled when the state rejected a framework that included near-identical language conveying the same fact. DeSantis is damned either way. No matter what he does, the press will fault him.

Salty,
As usual, you and the National Review (white supremacist) apologists like Becket Adams miss the major point of the critique.

It is not simply or solely the specific words but rather what the message is, including context, which includes what has been purposely excised from the history curriculum.

If you'd like to read the entire African American Studies AP curriculum, here it is: https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/26/us/ap-af ... index.html

The Florida curriculum went out of its way to excise important analysis of the legacy implications of slavery, Jim Crow, etc and it avoided or minimized or equivocated specific events, shaping it to be consistent with Lost Cause propaganda...this could not have been unconscious, as any serious historian who knows how intentionally that propaganda was used to support supremacist ideology, which still persists, would have flagged it.

Moreover, this effort exists within the context of the laws passed by DeSantis and the GOP legislature which threatens teachers who teach what is missing. And it exists within the context of the "parents' rights" movement that claims to be concerned with the "guilt" feelings of white kids.

But to your minor point of the language similarity, perhaps you missed that the language is not the same, indeed the article writer needed to insert their own words linking the phrases to create a meaning similar to what Florida explicitly did.

Last, in addition to DeSantis' other actions and statements around this topic making clear what his intent is in curriculum and teacher and school control, his defense of the change and these words spoke volumes about how he didn't understand (or actually wanted) the offense given. It could have been so easy to simply say "I see how those words could be read that way, I'll ask our curriculum group to rework the language to make clear that students shouldn't be taught that slaves benefited from their slavery." Easy peasy...but nope.

Salty believes that one simple concept is the only reason people have pushed back on DeSantis and his whitewashing effort…..folk ain’t that stupid, despite what Salty seems to believe.

Old news. This happened in July, and the College Board that runs AP course already issued their statement.

So typical of NR propaganda that Salty laps up daily.

In the meantime, big Nazi rally near Orlando yesterday complete with Hitler salutes - even the NY Post is outraged

https://nypost.com/2023/09/03/neo-nazis ... verywhere/

Crickets from Ron who was too busy blowing off the President.

old salt wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2023 6:05 am

Kismet wrote: ↑Mon Sep 04, 2023 1:28 pm

a fan wrote: ↑Mon Sep 04, 2023 12:03 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Mon Sep 04, 2023 11:10 am

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 04, 2023 9:13 am

old salt wrote: ↑Mon Sep 04, 2023 6:19 am

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 9:37 am

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2023 9:40 amThank God it took slavery to teach black people these skills:

And yet OS is busy arguing with a fan over this...

oh, my my ...looky here...wjatta 'ya know.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2023/09/ ... lly-awful/

Earlier this year, the Florida Department of Education adopted new social-studies standards. The updated standards include a section for black history. The black history section, which fills 19 pages and includes more than 185 references to slavery, segregation, and racism, covers everything from “the struggles and successes for access to equal educational opportunities for African Americans,” to “how slave codes were strengthened in response to Africans’ resistance to slavery,” to “how slave codes resulted in an enslaved person becoming property with no rights.”

One sentence in the updated standards reads, “Instruction includes how slaves developed skills which, in some instances, could be applied for their personal benefit.” It turns out that that sentence, which prompted vehement condemnations of DeSantis, is nearly identical to the language included in the College Board’s most up-to-date Advanced Placement African American Studies course framework, which says that slaves learned “specialized trades” and after being freed could use “these skills to provide for themselves and others.” When Florida rejected the Advanced Placement framework earlier this year, it prompted a round of outrage against DeSantis from people who hailed it as essential for the education of young people. No objection was made at the time to its reference to slaves’ learning “specialized trades” and “skills.” The people howling now about the language conveying a simple historical fact in the state’s new African-American history standards are the same ones who howled when the state rejected a framework that included near-identical language conveying the same fact. DeSantis is damned either way. No matter what he does, the press will fault him.

Salty,
As usual, you and the National Review (white supremacist) apologists like Becket Adams miss the major point of the critique.

It is not simply or solely the specific words but rather what the message is, including context, which includes what has been purposely excised from the history curriculum.

If you'd like to read the entire African American Studies AP curriculum, here it is: https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/26/us/ap-af ... index.html

The Florida curriculum went out of its way to excise important analysis of the legacy implications of slavery, Jim Crow, etc and it avoided or minimized or equivocated specific events, shaping it to be consistent with Lost Cause propaganda...this could not have been unconscious, as any serious historian who knows how intentionally that propaganda was used to support supremacist ideology, which still persists, would have flagged it.

Moreover, this effort exists within the context of the laws passed by DeSantis and the GOP legislature which threatens teachers who teach what is missing. And it exists within the context of the "parents' rights" movement that claims to be concerned with the "guilt" feelings of white kids.

But to your minor point of the language similarity, perhaps you missed that the language is not the same, indeed the article writer needed to insert their own words linking the phrases to create a meaning similar to what Florida explicitly did.

Last, in addition to DeSantis' other actions and statements around this topic making clear what his intent is in curriculum and teacher and school control, his defense of the change and these words spoke volumes about how he didn't understand (or actually wanted) the offense given. It could have been so easy to simply say "I see how those words could be read that way, I'll ask our curriculum group to rework the language to make clear that students shouldn't be taught that slaves benefited from their slavery." Easy peasy...but nope.

Salty believes that one simple concept is the only reason people have pushed back on DeSantis and his whitewashing effort…..folk ain’t that stupid, despite what Salty seems to believe.

Old news. This happened in July, and the College Board that runs AP course already issued their statement.

So typical of NR propaganda that Salty laps up daily.

In the meantime, big Nazi rally near Orlando yesterday complete with Hitler salutes - even the NY Post is outraged

https://nypost.com/2023/09/03/neo-nazis ... verywhere/

Crickets from Ron who was too busy blowing off the President.

Blah, blah, blah. It's not NR's or anyone else's propaganda.
It's words straight out of the College Board's AP Advanced Placement African American Studies course framework.
No amount of pettifoggery can change that basic fact.
The FL curriculum includes all the other issues you're bloviating about.
How come nobody flyspecked the College Board's framework & made a big deal out of it ?