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Posted: **Sun Mar 12, 2023 10:54 am**

thescottharris wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 8:32 pm
ODAD wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 3:44 pm ^ thanks for the insight. D3 lacrosse feeds don't need to be at the ESPN level, but for $49,504 a year, you would think they could get a scoreboard / shot clock working.. just a thought.
I'll just say that all the scoreboards on campus need to be replaced with technology that is current to this century. All are pretty old and run on antiquated tech. The school has always prioritized other things higher, and to be fair to the school, scoreboards are quite expensive

Back before I left they had talked about replacing it with one with a video board. And the only reason that chatter happened is because Macon got a flashy scoreboard with a big video panel and the alumni started getting jealous of it lol. Other than that, there really wasn't much chatter about replacing scoreboards because

1) the scoreboards for all sports work 95+% of the time with little to no issue and even brand new ones are going to have problems from time to time. It will be better but it won't fix everything, especially if the problem is caused by an external source, which has been the primary reason in the past when there have been problems with the scoreboard at the grass field, though I can't vouch for what happened today of course. Even a brand new scoreboard being used for the first time is going to have problems when external factors cause the problem. Like one time there was a blown electrical transformer that messed up something with the scoreboard, not much anyone can do about that. Sometimes shi* happens.

And 2) the fundraising groups always wanted to spend the money on other things that more directly benefitted the student-athletes.

And I can't blame the fundraising groups for doing that. Like if you can dump money into fully funding a really nice overnight trip (like when basketball went to Puerto Rico or Soccer did a summer international trip), you're going to do that instead of buying a new scoreboard. When those SAs remember their time as an SA, I can't imagine the story of the school getting a new scoreboard is one they'll ever tell.

How can a school like Lynchburg do all of this with probably half the budget of HSC and W&L? Have a video feed through YouTube with professional announcers that understand the game an do their research on the both teams playing. Let alone not having the top notch facilities, locker rooms, and still compete at the highest level every year with arguably the hardest schedule year and year out.

Posted: **Sun Mar 12, 2023 1:57 pm**

Fielder wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 10:54 am
thescottharris wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 8:32 pm
ODAD wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 3:44 pm ^ thanks for the insight. D3 lacrosse feeds don't need to be at the ESPN level, but for $49,504 a year, you would think they could get a scoreboard / shot clock working.. just a thought.
I'll just say that all the scoreboards on campus need to be replaced with technology that is current to this century. All are pretty old and run on antiquated tech. The school has always prioritized other things higher, and to be fair to the school, scoreboards are quite expensive

Back before I left they had talked about replacing it with one with a video board. And the only reason that chatter happened is because Macon got a flashy scoreboard with a big video panel and the alumni started getting jealous of it lol. Other than that, there really wasn't much chatter about replacing scoreboards because

1) the scoreboards for all sports work 95+% of the time with little to no issue and even brand new ones are going to have problems from time to time. It will be better but it won't fix everything, especially if the problem is caused by an external source, which has been the primary reason in the past when there have been problems with the scoreboard at the grass field, though I can't vouch for what happened today of course. Even a brand new scoreboard being used for the first time is going to have problems when external factors cause the problem. Like one time there was a blown electrical transformer that messed up something with the scoreboard, not much anyone can do about that. Sometimes shi* happens.

And 2) the fundraising groups always wanted to spend the money on other things that more directly benefitted the student-athletes.

And I can't blame the fundraising groups for doing that. Like if you can dump money into fully funding a really nice overnight trip (like when basketball went to Puerto Rico or Soccer did a summer international trip), you're going to do that instead of buying a new scoreboard. When those SAs remember their time as an SA, I can't imagine the story of the school getting a new scoreboard is one they'll ever tell.
How can a school like Lynchburg do all of this with probably half the budget of HSC and W&L? Have a video feed through YouTube with professional announcers that understand the game an do their research on the both teams playing. Let alone not having the top notch facilities, locker rooms, and still compete at the highest level every year with arguably the hardest schedule year and year out.

Why do you think their budget is smaller than W&L. I’d argue it’s likely a lot bigger. W&L doesn’t need athletics to fill its beds, hence it puts a lot less into it. I’ve also heard that like many liberal arts colleges that the PC agenda is squashing athletics at W&L. Poor leadership from athletics admin, have heard that the men’s programs have not been allowed to spend their alumni donations because other programs on campus can’t afford the same thing. I’ve even heard that W&L men’s Lacrosse donations have to fund all of women’s lacrosse before being allowed to be spent on themselves. Most donors don’t have an interest in funding that. Even heard from one former player that the W&L staff is forbidden from holding fundraising events like golf outings and banquets because other coaches complained about not being able to fundraise the same (most not likely don’t want to work hard).

So while everyone thinks they have everything, perception and reality is often different. Administrators do not think like most people, particularly at these “affluent” schools, they are out of touch.

Posted: **Sun Mar 12, 2023 2:23 pm**

Fielder wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 10:54 am
thescottharris wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 8:32 pm
ODAD wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 3:44 pm ^ thanks for the insight. D3 lacrosse feeds don't need to be at the ESPN level, but for $49,504 a year, you would think they could get a scoreboard / shot clock working.. just a thought.
I'll just say that all the scoreboards on campus need to be replaced with technology that is current to this century. All are pretty old and run on antiquated tech. The school has always prioritized other things higher, and to be fair to the school, scoreboards are quite expensive

Back before I left they had talked about replacing it with one with a video board. And the only reason that chatter happened is because Macon got a flashy scoreboard with a big video panel and the alumni started getting jealous of it lol. Other than that, there really wasn't much chatter about replacing scoreboards because

1) the scoreboards for all sports work 95+% of the time with little to no issue and even brand new ones are going to have problems from time to time. It will be better but it won't fix everything, especially if the problem is caused by an external source, which has been the primary reason in the past when there have been problems with the scoreboard at the grass field, though I can't vouch for what happened today of course. Even a brand new scoreboard being used for the first time is going to have problems when external factors cause the problem. Like one time there was a blown electrical transformer that messed up something with the scoreboard, not much anyone can do about that. Sometimes shi* happens.

And 2) the fundraising groups always wanted to spend the money on other things that more directly benefitted the student-athletes.

And I can't blame the fundraising groups for doing that. Like if you can dump money into fully funding a really nice overnight trip (like when basketball went to Puerto Rico or Soccer did a summer international trip), you're going to do that instead of buying a new scoreboard. When those SAs remember their time as an SA, I can't imagine the story of the school getting a new scoreboard is one they'll ever tell.
How can a school like Lynchburg do all of this with probably half the budget of HSC and W&L? Have a video feed through YouTube with professional announcers that understand the game an do their research on the both teams playing. Let alone not having the top notch facilities, locker rooms, and still compete at the highest level every year with arguably the hardest schedule year and year out.

Lynchburg likely pays more to just one of the three people in their three-person athletics digital media department (which also includes an army of students) than H-SC annually spends on their entire webcasting operation. So to say LC does it with half the budget can't be any further from the truth.

But it's like a lacrosse team.

To keep it simple, if you want a consistently high-caliber lacrosse team, there are a few basics you need to accomplish that

1 - high-quality head coach
2 - high-quality assistant coaches
3 - high-quality recruits
4 - high-quality talent development
5 - time, support, and resources to build and maintain all of the above - and resources encapsulates more than just money

You lack any of those five things, guess what? You're not going to have a consistently high-caliber lacrosse program. Sure you'll have years where you're pretty good or better or a string of years if you have a particularly good recruiting class, but it's never going to be EVERY to nearly every year.

You lack two or more? Well good luck ever having a good year without getting a mega recruit like a Josh Currier

So how's that translate to H-SC? Let's just say they lack all five of those in regard to their webcasting operation.

And they need to start putting their money where their mouth is.

Posted: **Sun Mar 12, 2023 4:03 pm**

Fielder wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 10:54 am
thescottharris wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 8:32 pm
ODAD wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 3:44 pm ^ thanks for the insight. D3 lacrosse feeds don't need to be at the ESPN level, but for $49,504 a year, you would think they could get a scoreboard / shot clock working.. just a thought.
I'll just say that all the scoreboards on campus need to be replaced with technology that is current to this century. All are pretty old and run on antiquated tech. The school has always prioritized other things higher, and to be fair to the school, scoreboards are quite expensive

Back before I left they had talked about replacing it with one with a video board. And the only reason that chatter happened is because Macon got a flashy scoreboard with a big video panel and the alumni started getting jealous of it lol. Other than that, there really wasn't much chatter about replacing scoreboards because

1) the scoreboards for all sports work 95+% of the time with little to no issue and even brand new ones are going to have problems from time to time. It will be better but it won't fix everything, especially if the problem is caused by an external source, which has been the primary reason in the past when there have been problems with the scoreboard at the grass field, though I can't vouch for what happened today of course. Even a brand new scoreboard being used for the first time is going to have problems when external factors cause the problem. Like one time there was a blown electrical transformer that messed up something with the scoreboard, not much anyone can do about that. Sometimes shi* happens.

And 2) the fundraising groups always wanted to spend the money on other things that more directly benefitted the student-athletes.

And I can't blame the fundraising groups for doing that. Like if you can dump money into fully funding a really nice overnight trip (like when basketball went to Puerto Rico or Soccer did a summer international trip), you're going to do that instead of buying a new scoreboard. When those SAs remember their time as an SA, I can't imagine the story of the school getting a new scoreboard is one they'll ever tell.
How can a school like Lynchburg do all of this with probably half the budget of HSC and W&L? Have a video feed through YouTube with professional announcers that understand the game an do their research on the both teams playing. Let alone not having the top notch facilities, locker rooms, and still compete at the highest level every year with arguably the hardest schedule year and year out.

This guy can get you a jumbotron

Posted: **Sun Mar 12, 2023 5:05 pm**

LYN supports athletics from top down. Outstanding AD.
Fall give day allows alumni donations to be directed to their team. Lax alumni support is upward or 25-$30,000 funding gear, travel, meals etc. also lacrosse started an endowment that alumni from early 80’s to last year have funded $500,000 and support the culture. Facilities are next push, the field house and baseball field.

Posted: **Sun Mar 12, 2023 6:43 pm**

“To keep it simple, if you want a consistently high-caliber lacrosse team, there are a few basics you need to accomplish that

1 - high-quality head coach
2 - high-quality assistant coaches
3 - high-quality recruits
4 - high-quality talent development
5 - time, support, and resources to build and maintain all of the above - and resources encapsulates more than just money

So how's that translate to H-SC? Let's just say they lack all five of those in regard to their webcasting operation.

And they need to start putting their money where their mouth is”. [/quote]

I may not be as well informed as a sports administration guy but from my observations.. The top 4 ODAC teams have pretty stellar head coaches (Coach K, Pilat, McCabe and Rostan)… can’t speak to the assistants… these top 4 get reasonably competitive recruits for a New England dominated sport… and since they all have good coaches, they are probably being developed pretty well?..

However, Lynchburg is pretty damn good EVERY year for the past 15+ years...so it seems they have all 5 of your criteria. W&L and HSC are usually up there in the ODAC but haven’t really been in the hunt for the big dance in a long time. I don’t think it’s because they lack “all 5 of those” basic must-haves. My guess would be that Lynchburg gets really dedicated players who only came there to play lacrosse, whereas W&L and HSC players have other motives for being at the school and playing lacrosse is an added benefit.

On another note - it’s not even April so there’s lots of good lacrosse to be played and anything could happen. I hope that young man from W&L recovers quickly! This has been a competitive year for OOC games for the ODAC and I’m excited for conference play.

Posted: **Sun Mar 12, 2023 7:30 pm**

The current administration at W&L is not particularly "sports friendly," and many good athletes, who had excellent records and academics, are not admitted, despite the best efforts of coaches. Not that many years ago, a coach in Lex could get 2 or 3 applicants "over the line," which helped many of the teams be very competitive.

Good student athletes who do not get into W&L go elsewhere, and several schools, particularly LYN have capitalized on that. Kudos to them.

Posted: **Mon Mar 13, 2023 10:32 am**

Is the ODAC headed for another down year overall? I had high hopes that there would be alot of parity at the top but its looking like Lynchburg is head and shoulders above the rest. If Burns is out for the year that could be a big problem for W&L. Roanoke and HSC are not very good right now.

Posted: **Mon Mar 13, 2023 10:50 am**

JustOneTime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 10:32 am Is the ODAC headed for another down year overall? I had high hopes that there would be alot of parity at the top but its looking like Lynchburg is head and shoulders above the rest. If Burns is out for the year that could be a big problem for W&L. Roanoke and HSC are not very good right now.

What is the status on Burns? Kid is legit, hope it is nothing too serious

Posted: **Mon Mar 13, 2023 5:53 pm**

Latest Poll Lynchburg #7 W&L#8… HSC I think could be a top 20 team. Noke didn’t help themselves losing to Swarthmore, I was surprised by that score. W&L takes on what I think will be the number 1 team when they meet 3/22 CNU. Unlike last year where the Generals made 21 saves but also had 27 turnovers ( not a misprint) without Burns I think that game gets away from them. Ithaca and Guilford come before. I’m interested in seeing how competitive W&L remains without the availability of Burns. Let’s see if they can adjust with those 2 games before CNU and get the O rolling again. Goal play hopefully solidifies, but not expecting 21 saves

Posted: **Tue Mar 14, 2023 10:27 am**

Hadley, Lynchburg's G, has now won ODAC POTW 3 times this year already. He's gotta be the biggest dark horse to win the POY for the conference.

Lynchburg has a tough test today in Tufts, game conditions are supposed to be craziness. Lynchburg's biggest key today will be discipline. Do not get into the helter skelter game, because tufts will win. I think it'll be close going into the half but I think tufts runs away with this one, based on the conditions, lots of travel for Lynchburg, and forcing turnovers, 21-14 Jumbos.

Posted: **Tue Mar 14, 2023 10:50 am**

Dehuntshigwa’es wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 5:53 pm Latest Poll Lynchburg #7 W&L#8… HSC I think could be a top 20 team. Noke didn’t help themselves losing to Swarthmore, I was surprised by that score. W&L takes on what I think will be the number 1 team when they meet 3/22 CNU. Unlike last year where the Generals made 21 saves but also had 27 turnovers ( not a misprint) without Burns I think that game gets away from them. Ithaca and Guilford come before. I’m interested in seeing how competitive W&L remains without the availability of Burns. Let’s see if they can adjust with those 2 games before CNU and get the O rolling again. Goal play hopefully solidifies, but not expecting 21 saves

Agreed, Lynchburg seems to be firing on all cylinders, big test with Tufts. W&L was also looking very strong but, with Burns out well see what there future holds, think they can beat Ithaca but, will have to play clean and find themselves without Burns. HSC is a top 20 team if they clean up a few things. Face-offs killing them right now, especially in Denison and Cabrini- games where they need possessions. Seems like penalties also need to get cleaned up (15 against Cabrini according to their website). But, we have seen what they can do if they play clean. If they clean up some spots top 20 for sure. Noke is in a similar spot IMO. Kammarmen brothers are awesome but there are spots they need to clean up.

Im excited for Saturday HSC vs RMC!

Posted: **Tue Mar 14, 2023 11:37 am**

allthingsODAC wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 10:50 am Im excited for Saturday HSC vs RMC!

HSC by a gazillion

Posted: **Tue Mar 14, 2023 12:48 pm**

W&LLover wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 11:37 am
allthingsODAC wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 10:50 am Im excited for Saturday HSC vs RMC!
HSC by a gazillion

I think this will be close. RMC could easily win it

Posted: **Tue Mar 14, 2023 4:23 pm**

LYN 15 - St Lawrence 11

W&L 11 - Ithaca 7

HSC 13 - RMC - 9

Noke 16 - UMW - 10

Lynchburg pulls away in the second half and doesn’t look back.
W&L tries to find “the guy” but defense handles untested Ithaca.
HSC goes 20% at the dot but outmatches RMC everywhere else.
Noke plays a sloppy game but has their way on offense.

Posted: **Tue Mar 14, 2023 8:08 pm**

ShenandoahLaxDad wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 10:27 am Hadley, Lynchburg's G, has now won ODAC POTW 3 times this year already. He's gotta be the biggest dark horse to win the POY for the conference.

Lynchburg has a tough test today in Tufts, game conditions are supposed to be craziness. Lynchburg's biggest key today will be discipline. Do not get into the helter skelter game, because tufts will win. I think it'll be close going into the half but I think tufts runs away with this one, based on the conditions, lots of travel for Lynchburg, and forcing turnovers, 21-14 Jumbos.

It's actually three defensive players of the week, they just don't list it as defensive because the other weekly award is for offensive players and FOGOs and that would just get too wordy. Hence why a goalkeeper or defender has won one of the two awards every week.

Posted: **Tue Mar 14, 2023 8:13 pm**

How the hell is Tufts only ranked #4?

Posted: **Tue Mar 14, 2023 8:19 pm**

Lburg had 8 shots on goal scoring 4, unheard of by this team. Is Tufts that good or Lynchburg that bad. I’m throwing this game out as far as it relates to ODAC play. Hornets will be in ODAC final at a minimum. Total domination by Tufts, unimaginable

Posted: **Tue Mar 14, 2023 8:28 pm**

Dehuntshigwa’es wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 8:19 pm Lburg had 8 shots on goal scoring 4, unheard of by this team. Is Tufts that good or Lynchburg that bad. I’m throwing this game out as far as it relates to ODAC play. Hornets will be in ODAC final at a minimum. Total domination by Tufts, unimaginable

I think tufts is a better team. But the weather and travel definitely played an impact. I was looking forward to a closer game. If this was played without the blizzard, I think it would have been closer.

Posted: **Tue Mar 14, 2023 8:44 pm**

AbeFroeman wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 8:28 pm
Dehuntshigwa’es wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 8:19 pm Lburg had 8 shots on goal scoring 4, unheard of by this team. Is Tufts that good or Lynchburg that bad. I’m throwing this game out as far as it relates to ODAC play. Hornets will be in ODAC final at a minimum. Total domination by Tufts, unimaginable
I think tufts is a better team. But the weather and travel definitely played an impact. I was looking forward to a closer game. If this was played without the blizzard, I think it would have been closer.

I agree weather definitely threw off Lynchburg…although they lost by 10 last year to Tufts and I believe the weather was fine. Wasn’t really a blizzard in Medford but pretty bad weather.

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