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Re: Tewaaraton Finalist

Posted: Sat May 13, 2023 9:10 pm
by Farfromgeneva
Jldlax wrote: Sat May 13, 2023 8:45 pm Tucker with 6 goals today. 40% shooting, not bad. And with Yale keying on him in the second half. 63/13 for 76 points on the year.
The goal with the pole literally in between his legs early Q2 was pretty impressive.

Re: Tewaaraton Finalist

Posted: Sat May 13, 2023 9:13 pm
by blue angels
Jldlax wrote: Sat May 13, 2023 8:45 pm Tucker with 6 goals today. 40% shooting, not bad. And with Yale keying on him in the second half. 63/13 for 76 points on the year.
He had a productive game, but didn't appear like either team played much organized defense today. I am not expecting that to be the case, next weekend. Shellenberger looked much healthier today and also ended with 6 points as well, running Virginia's offense. One of these 2 can forget any remote chance at Teewarton after next weekend. some AA individual defenders will also be playing in Bowen, Saustad, Kaestner and Sallade, maybe others in addition to all the offensive studs.

Re: Tewaaraton Finalist

Posted: Sun May 14, 2023 11:41 am
by random observer
Antonio114 wrote: Fri May 12, 2023 4:47 pm
random observer wrote: Fri May 12, 2023 11:58 am
Creasedive wrote: Fri May 12, 2023 10:15 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Fri May 12, 2023 10:01 am
DMac wrote: Fri May 12, 2023 9:16 am
Creasedive wrote: Fri May 12, 2023 8:36 am
DMac wrote: Fri May 12, 2023 7:37 am Bottom line is it's bullschidt that all five candidates are attackmen.
How many of those five candidates do more on the field than Adler
does? He affects games every bit as much as they do but he doesn't
have a bunch of goals, so no Tewey consideration for him. Both sides,
men's and women's, all attack. The committee needs to take a look
at that. Look up Tucker Dordevic's number of GBs, number of TOs,
shoots damn near every time he touches the ball, rarely throws an
assist but the committee sees him as a better player than Adler.
It's garbage.
The love affair with Adler is a bit much. Great player - but the award goes to men who scores goals. He doesn’t. Move on.
Men and women.
The Tewaaraton Award is an annual award for the most outstanding American college lacrosse men's and women's players,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tewaaraton_Award
How 'bout we start recognizing the award as a goal scorer's award rather than the most outstanding player then?
I agree with this fundamental point. It's supposed to be "outstanding player"...that's nearly always an attacker, but it shouldn't be the automatic assumption that an attacker is the most impactful player for their team, best in the nation at their position as well.

And to think that there are 5 attack that qualify as such more than any defender, midfielder, goalie or FOGO seems wrong. The ultimate winner of the award may well be attack...

I think for the men's side, two from Cornell may have seemed a barrier, moreover other outstanding defenders may have muddied the waters...but I definitely had Adler ahead of Dordevic.

Dordevic is simply not the best player at his position.
He could even have the most outstanding tournament, but that wouldn't make him the best player at his position.
Adler ahead of Dordevic is ridiculous. No defenseman has the impact a pure scorer has on a team. Give Adler the Schmeisser. He deserves it.
Dordevic wasn't even the best player on his own attack line for the first half of the season. Even now I would put a lot of money on Adler to completely erase Dordevic if they were matched up on each other.
Fortunately we have some tape on that and...well...check out 8:09 in this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDA4zkEjnU8
Touche! And another great performance from Dordevic yesterday. I'm a Hoya fan, so believe me, nothing would make me happier than to get the opportunity to see that matchup on Championship Monday and be proven wrong.

Funnily enough, I think in a hypothetical Georgetown/Cornell matchup, there would be reasonable doubt about whether to put Adler on Dordevic or Minicus (the latter of whom was the only player to really dice Adler up last year when he was playing for Colgate).

Re: Tewaaraton Finalist

Posted: Sun May 14, 2023 2:08 pm
by Comeonman
Fun fact for all the Dordevic haters out there. He has scored at least one goal in every game over the past two years. The last time he was shut out? Ironically, in the first round of the 2021 NCAA tournament against Georgetown. Five shots, three on goal.

Re: Tewaaraton Finalist

Posted: Sun May 14, 2023 2:57 pm
by 10stone5
Comeonman wrote: Sun May 14, 2023 2:08 pm Fun fact for all the Dordevic haters out there. He has scored at least one goal in every game over the past two years. The last time he was shut out? Ironically, in the first round of the 2021 NCAA tournament against Georgetown. Five shots, three on goal.
Dordevic haters :)

Here's one for the Adler haters :)
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Re: Tewaaraton Finalist

Posted: Sun May 14, 2023 4:21 pm
by 10stone5
Another one for the Adler Haters,
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Re: Tewaaraton Finalist

Posted: Sun May 14, 2023 5:00 pm
by tech37
What did Kirst have today...I counted one goal?

Re: Tewaaraton Finalist

Posted: Sun May 14, 2023 5:02 pm
by Finster
10stone5 wrote: Sun May 14, 2023 4:21 pm Another one for the Adler Haters,
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Can you at least explain what we’re seeing here?

Re: Tewaaraton Finalist

Posted: Sun May 14, 2023 5:03 pm
by 10stone5
He’s out of the running now with a 1st round loss.

Re: Tewaaraton Finalist

Posted: Sun May 14, 2023 5:04 pm
by 10stone5
Finster wrote: Sun May 14, 2023 5:02 pm
10stone5 wrote: Sun May 14, 2023 4:21 pm Another one for the Adler Haters,
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Can you at least explain what we’re seeing here?
Its a joke

Adler isn’t one of the final five
a spin on Dordevic haters.

Re: Tewaaraton Finalist

Posted: Sun May 14, 2023 5:05 pm
by Finster
tech37 wrote: Sun May 14, 2023 5:00 pm What did Kirst have today...I counted one goal?


2 goals one assist. 20% shooting. Michigan keyed on him, as they should. He’s an incredible player. Unless the other fellas flame out going forward, he took a step backward today in this Tewey race, unfortunately. But he’s only a junior, so his time will come this year or next.

Re: Tewaaraton Finalist

Posted: Sun May 14, 2023 5:05 pm
by Finster
10stone5 wrote: Sun May 14, 2023 5:04 pm
Finster wrote: Sun May 14, 2023 5:02 pm
10stone5 wrote: Sun May 14, 2023 4:21 pm Another one for the Adler Haters,
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Can you at least explain what we’re seeing here?
Its a joke

Adler isn’t one of the final five
a spin on Dordevic haters.


Gotcha

Re: Tewaaraton Finalist

Posted: Sun May 14, 2023 5:06 pm
by Finster
10stone5 wrote: Sun May 14, 2023 5:03 pm He’s out of the running now with a 1st round loss.



It definitely hurts. But it’s never over til it’s over. I feel for him; zero doubt he wants the ‘ship way before the Tewaaraton.

Re: Tewaaraton Finalist

Posted: Sun May 14, 2023 5:17 pm
by tech37
Finster wrote: Sun May 14, 2023 5:05 pm
tech37 wrote: Sun May 14, 2023 5:00 pm What did Kirst have today...I counted one goal?


2 goals one assist. 20% shooting. Michigan keyed on him, as they should. He’s an incredible player. Unless the other fellas flame out going forward, he took a step backward today in this Tewey race, unfortunately. But he’s only a junior, so his time will come this year or next.
Okay, thanks

Re: Tewaaraton Finalist

Posted: Sun May 14, 2023 5:24 pm
by ny10458
Finster wrote: Sun May 14, 2023 5:05 pm
10stone5 wrote: Sun May 14, 2023 5:04 pm
Finster wrote: Sun May 14, 2023 5:02 pm
10stone5 wrote: Sun May 14, 2023 4:21 pm Another one for the Adler Haters,
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adler-haters2.jpg


Can you at least explain what we’re seeing here?
Its a joke

Adler isn’t one of the final five
a spin on Dordevic haters.


Gotcha
Wow, DMac back on his alternate account. Cringe.

Re: Tewaaraton Finalist

Posted: Sun May 14, 2023 5:29 pm
by Finster
ny10458 wrote: Sun May 14, 2023 5:24 pm
Finster wrote: Sun May 14, 2023 5:05 pm
10stone5 wrote: Sun May 14, 2023 5:04 pm
Finster wrote: Sun May 14, 2023 5:02 pm
10stone5 wrote: Sun May 14, 2023 4:21 pm Another one for the Adler Haters,
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adler-haters2.jpg


Can you at least explain what we’re seeing here?
Its a joke

Adler isn’t one of the final five
a spin on Dordevic haters.
Gotcha
Wow, DMac back on his alternate account. Cringe.


I promise I’m not Dmac. He’s a good dude, but I live in Virginia. We support the same program in case that’s what you’re alluding to. Otherwise I don’t know him. Thanks.

Re: Tewaaraton Finalist

Posted: Sun May 14, 2023 5:32 pm
by ny10458
Finster wrote: Sun May 14, 2023 5:29 pm
ny10458 wrote: Sun May 14, 2023 5:24 pm
Finster wrote: Sun May 14, 2023 5:05 pm
10stone5 wrote: Sun May 14, 2023 5:04 pm
Finster wrote: Sun May 14, 2023 5:02 pm
10stone5 wrote: Sun May 14, 2023 4:21 pm Another one for the Adler Haters,
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adler-haters2.jpg


Can you at least explain what we’re seeing here?
Its a joke

Adler isn’t one of the final five
a spin on Dordevic haters.
Gotcha
Wow, DMac back on his alternate account. Cringe.


I promise I’m not Dmac. He’s a good dude, but I live in Virginia. We support the same program in case that’s what you’re alluding to. Otherwise I don’t know him. Thanks.
"I swear I don't know him guys, but he's a cool guy."

Re: Tewaaraton Finalist

Posted: Sun May 14, 2023 5:33 pm
by Finster
ny10458 wrote: Sun May 14, 2023 5:32 pm
Finster wrote: Sun May 14, 2023 5:29 pm
ny10458 wrote: Sun May 14, 2023 5:24 pm
Finster wrote: Sun May 14, 2023 5:05 pm
10stone5 wrote: Sun May 14, 2023 5:04 pm
Finster wrote: Sun May 14, 2023 5:02 pm
10stone5 wrote: Sun May 14, 2023 4:21 pm Another one for the Adler Haters,
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adler-haters2.jpg


Can you at least explain what we’re seeing here?
Its a joke

Adler isn’t one of the final five
a spin on Dordevic haters.
Gotcha
Wow, DMac back on his alternate account. Cringe.
I promise I’m not Dmac. He’s a good dude, but I live in Virginia. We support the same program in case that’s what you’re alluding to. Otherwise I don’t know him. Thanks.
"I swear I don't know him guys, but he's a cool guy."



Okay pal. Believe what you want. I don’t really give af. Try focusing on the games, not posters.

Re: Tewaaraton Finalist

Posted: Sun May 14, 2023 5:41 pm
by Farfromgeneva
ny10458 wrote: Sun May 14, 2023 5:32 pm
Finster wrote: Sun May 14, 2023 5:29 pm
ny10458 wrote: Sun May 14, 2023 5:24 pm
Finster wrote: Sun May 14, 2023 5:05 pm
10stone5 wrote: Sun May 14, 2023 5:04 pm
Finster wrote: Sun May 14, 2023 5:02 pm
10stone5 wrote: Sun May 14, 2023 4:21 pm Another one for the Adler Haters,
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adler-haters2.jpg


Can you at least explain what we’re seeing here?
Its a joke

Adler isn’t one of the final five
a spin on Dordevic haters.
Gotcha
Wow, DMac back on his alternate account. Cringe.


I promise I’m not Dmac. He’s a good dude, but I live in Virginia. We support the same program in case that’s what you’re alluding to. Otherwise I don’t know him. Thanks.
"I swear I don't know him guys, but he's a cool guy."
They’re not the same at all. I’m quite sure. DMac wouldn’t bother setting up an account to argue about Spallina early in the season and has been around since early-mid LP.

Re: Tewaaraton Finalist

Posted: Sun May 14, 2023 5:45 pm
by ny10458
"Nope."