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Re: All things CoronaVirus
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2021 10:03 am
by Typical Lax Dad
tech37 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 10:00 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 9:54 am
tech37 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 9:08 am
Let's see if therapeutics are even mentioned in Biden's Covid plan speech scheduled for later today. I give it an optimistic 50/50.
Therapeutics aren’t a replacement for vaccines. I hope he makes that clear. Otherwise we are headed for more variants. I am
sure I won’t watch it but will pick up coverage here.
jesus h... who said or even inferred they are a replacement
Jesus…not you man.
Re: All things CoronaVirus
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2021 10:04 am
by MDlaxfan76
youthathletics wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 8:53 am
Interesting graph....hide it from the non vaxxers, it argues their case nicely.
Only for those who
want to believe the MRNA platform was developed overnight.
The speed at which the platform was able to produce a safe and effective vaccine to address a novel virus is indeed blazingly fast and portends all sorts of exciting possibilities going forward.
But the technology was developed over a long period of time.
Re: All things CoronaVirus
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2021 10:04 am
by MDlaxfan76
Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 10:03 am
tech37 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 10:00 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 9:54 am
tech37 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 9:08 am
Let's see if therapeutics are even mentioned in Biden's Covid plan speech scheduled for later today. I give it an optimistic 50/50.
Therapeutics aren’t a replacement for vaccines. I hope he makes that clear. Otherwise we are headed for more variants. I am
sure I won’t watch it but will pick up coverage here.
jesus h... who said or even inferred they are a replacement
Jesus…not you man.
Re: All things CoronaVirus
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2021 10:04 am
by Typical Lax Dad
MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 10:04 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 10:03 am
tech37 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 10:00 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 9:54 am
tech37 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 9:08 am
Let's see if therapeutics are even mentioned in Biden's Covid plan speech scheduled for later today. I give it an optimistic 50/50.
Therapeutics aren’t a replacement for vaccines. I hope he makes that clear. Otherwise we are headed for more variants. I am
sure I won’t watch it but will pick up coverage here.
jesus h... who said or even inferred they are a replacement
Jesus…not you man.
https://www.reuters.com/business/health ... 021-11-08/
Re: All things CoronaVirus
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2021 10:14 am
by jhu72
Florida is back in the top 5 for number of new cases per capita.
Re: All things CoronaVirus
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2021 10:30 am
by MDlaxfan76
jhu72 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 10:14 am
Florida is back in the top 5 for number of new cases per capita.
Pretty predictable, given the behaviors I'm seeing in public venues here.
Looks like our community may be about to go into a temporary lockdown, or at least tightening, mode again. Fortunately nearly every last soul has been vaccinated, and my informal 'polling' suggests nearly all have been boosted as well...have yet to run across anyone not boosted.
They'd lost a few staff members last spring when they insisted on vaccinations, but I'd say that the quality of staff has only improved, not suffered. They'd also insisted on all vendors coming on campus be vaccinated; don't see any issues from that but there may have been some...but nothing that wasn't able to addressed.
Pretty different impression if you go out to the grocery store, drug store, whatever, very few masks, but overall the county is over 60% vaccinated...but that's an awful lot of unvaccinated.
I think folks had been assuming they were done with their surge last summer, forgetting there was a big surge in Florida last winter. And a fair amount of MAGA overhang as well.
We're getting together with close friends this evening, including their kids who have traveled from SF and NYC...both tested negative, so ok...but the other son and his new wife had to bail out of coming as one tested positive just before coming fom NY. 87 year old grand mom here with Parkinson's. And they were going to visit the other grandparents in VA during the drive down...Bummer.
Re: All things CoronaVirus
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2021 10:45 am
by Typical Lax Dad
Re: All things CoronaVirus
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2021 10:52 am
by jhu72
MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 10:30 am
jhu72 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 10:14 am
Florida is back in the top 5 for number of new cases per capita.
Pretty predictable, given the behaviors I'm seeing in public venues here.
Looks like our community may be about to go into a temporary lockdown, or at least tightening, mode again. Fortunately nearly every last soul has been vaccinated, and my informal 'polling' suggests nearly all have been boosted as well...have yet to run across anyone not boosted.
They'd lost a few staff members last spring when they insisted on vaccinations, but I'd say that the quality of staff has only improved, not suffered. They'd also insisted on all vendors coming on campus be vaccinated; don't see any issues from that but there may have been some...but nothing that wasn't able to addressed.
Pretty different impression if you go out to the grocery store, drug store, whatever, very few masks, but overall the county is over 60% vaccinated...but that's an awful lot of unvaccinated.
I think folks had been assuming they were done with their surge last summer, forgetting there was a big surge in Florida last winter. And a fair amount of MAGA overhang as well.
We're getting together with close friends this evening, including their kids who have traveled from SF and NYC...both tested negative, so ok...but the other son and his new wife had to bail out of coming as one tested positive just before coming fom NY. 87 year old grand mom here with Parkinson's. And they were going to visit the other grandparents in VA during the drive down...Bummer.
... Florida has seen the largest increase of new infections of any state over the past 14 days it appears. All this while the weather is still pretty good. -- the increase is a little surprising when you consider the natural advantage.
Re: All things CoronaVirus
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2021 10:54 am
by NattyBohChamps04
Why wear a seatbelt when perfectly good paramedics are just a few minutes away?
Re: All things CoronaVirus
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2021 10:55 am
by CU88
People in New York City who get a COVID-19 booster shot by the end of the year will be paid $100
https://www1.nyc.gov/site/coronavirus/v ... ickup.page
Pennies on the dollar cheaper than flooding the hospital system...
Re: All things CoronaVirus
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2021 11:04 am
by NattyBohChamps04
Deadly partisan divide: Gap between COVID deaths in red vs. blue counties larger than ever
Pro-Trump counties now have far higher COVID death rates. Misinformation is to blame
Wasn't sure if this thread or the "trolling" thread was more approrpriate.
Who could have dreamt that idiots and malcontents trolling on the internet would lead to tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of dead Americans.
Re: All things CoronaVirus
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2021 12:24 pm
by Bart
Would like to see the data corrected for age.
Re: All things CoronaVirus
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2021 12:34 pm
by SCLaxAttack
MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 10:04 am
youthathletics wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 8:53 am
Interesting graph....hide it from the non vaxxers, it argues their case nicely.
Only for those who
want to believe the MRNA platform was developed overnight.
The speed at which the platform was able to produce a safe and effective vaccine to address a novel virus is indeed blazingly fast and portends all sorts of exciting possibilities going forward.
But the technology was developed over a long period of time.
I tried to find any information whatsoever on the vaccine hesitancy when the whooping cough or measles vaccines were introduced, as the timeline for their introductions seem dramatically shorter than previously vaccines, but couldn’t find any. Anybody have better success?
It can’t be politics. Just can’t.
Re: All things CoronaVirus
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2021 12:53 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
SCLaxAttack wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 12:34 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 10:04 am
youthathletics wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 8:53 am
Interesting graph....hide it from the non vaxxers, it argues their case nicely.
Only for those who
want to believe the MRNA platform was developed overnight.
The speed at which the platform was able to produce a safe and effective vaccine to address a novel virus is indeed blazingly fast and portends all sorts of exciting possibilities going forward.
But the technology was developed over a long period of time.
I tried to find any information whatsoever on the vaccine hesitancy when the whooping cough or measles vaccines were introduced, as the timeline for their introductions seem dramatically shorter than previously vaccines, but couldn’t find any. Anybody have better success?
It can’t be politics. Just can’t.
Hepatitis B vaccine was too quick also.
“The world was able to develop COVID-19 vaccines so quickly because of years of previous research on related viruses and faster ways to manufacture vaccines, enormous funding that allowed firms to run multiple trials in parallel, and regulators moving more quickly than normal. Some of those factors might translate to other vaccine efforts, particularly speedier manufacturing platforms.”
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-03626-1
The rest of the story. Don’t want to deceive folks.
Re: All things CoronaVirus
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2021 2:01 pm
by tech37
NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 10:54 am
Why wear a seatbelt when perfectly good paramedics are just a few minutes away?
Silly analogy. It's not an either or situation. The two anti-viral tools have different functions. We should have as much access to therapeutics as we do vaccines. Why is that so difficult to understand?
Re: All things CoronaVirus
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2021 2:04 pm
by kramerica.inc
tech37 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 2:01 pm
NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 10:54 am
Why wear a seatbelt when perfectly good paramedics are just a few minutes away?
Silly analogy. It's not an either or situation. The two anti-viral tools have different functions. We should have as much access to therapeutics as we do vaccines. Why is that so difficult to understand?
They want their "Democrat death panels."
Re: All things CoronaVirus
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2021 2:07 pm
by tech37
kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 2:04 pm
tech37 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 2:01 pm
NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 10:54 am
Why wear a seatbelt when perfectly good paramedics are just a few minutes away?
Silly analogy. It's not an either or situation. The two anti-viral tools have different functions. We should have as much access to therapeutics as we do vaccines. Why is that so difficult to understand?
They want their "Democrat death panels."
Who knows kram. Things so F'd up
Re: All things CoronaVirus
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2021 2:15 pm
by Bart
tech37 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 2:01 pm
NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 10:54 am
Why wear a seatbelt when perfectly good paramedics are just a few minutes away?
Silly analogy. It's not an either or situation. The two anti-viral tools have different functions. We should have as much access to therapeutics as we do vaccines. Why is that so difficult to understand?
It is not an either or situation but the second therapeutic is not a substitute for the first. But we will not have equal access to both as the second therapeutic is being authorized for those at high risk and that includes those who don’t accept the first.
Re: All things CoronaVirus
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2021 2:19 pm
by tech37
Bart wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 2:15 pm
tech37 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 2:01 pm
NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 10:54 am
Why wear a seatbelt when perfectly good paramedics are just a few minutes away?
Silly analogy. It's not an either or situation. The two anti-viral tools have different functions. We should have as much access to therapeutics as we do vaccines. Why is that so difficult to understand?
It is not an either or situation but the second therapeutic is not a substitute for the first. But we will not have equal access to both as the second therapeutic is being authorized for those at high risk and that includes those who don’t accept the first.
yes bart, yes, yes, yes
I posted what i'd like to see (my opinion) not the reality of the situation.
Re: All things CoronaVirus
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2021 2:32 pm
by Bart
tech37 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 2:19 pm
Bart wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 2:15 pm
tech37 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 2:01 pm
NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 10:54 am
Why wear a seatbelt when perfectly good paramedics are just a few minutes away?
Silly analogy. It's not an either or situation. The two anti-viral tools have different functions. We should have as much access to therapeutics as we do vaccines. Why is that so difficult to understand?
It is not an either or situation but the second therapeutic is not a substitute for the first. But we will not have equal access to both as the second therapeutic is being authorized for those at high risk and that includes those who don’t accept the first.
yes bart, yes, yes, yes
I posted what i'd like to see (my opinion) not the reality of the situation.
That’s fair enough. I’m hopeful the treatment is a game changer.