The Hate Directed at the LGBTQ+

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NattyBohChamps04 wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:51 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:07 pm
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 1:09 pm Culture Warrior; yeah!!!!

https://twitter.com/jennycohn1/status/1 ... 98/photo/1
Ya gotta admit, on a story like this, getting the preferred pronouns correct can be a challenge,
...& standy by to get canceled if you get one wrong.
Challenge? To do like 2 minutes of research per victim? Treating a human as a human being. Treating them how they wanted to be treated and not a talking point is about the least challenging thing to do in a major story like this. And a large part of their humanity.

They're not getting pronouns wrong on accident. It's not a challenge. And no one is "cancelling" them for that. The real "cancel culture" is murdering people for being themselves and not hurting anyone. Literally cancelling their life FFS. :roll:
Where does one go to do such research ? Is there a national registry of official preferred pronouns ?
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Seacoaster(1) wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:56 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:07 pm
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 1:09 pm Culture Warrior; yeah!!!!

https://twitter.com/jennycohn1/status/1 ... 98/photo/1
Ya gotta admit, on a story like this, getting the preferred pronouns correct can be a challenge,
...& standy by to get canceled if you get one wrong.
Popeye, the world is passing you by. May as well be dead. Godspeed there mate.
Where does a journalist, working on deadline, get a dead victim's preferred pronoun information ? Do they have fact checkers for that ?
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wgdsr wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 10:25 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:07 pm
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 1:09 pm Culture Warrior; yeah!!!!

https://twitter.com/jennycohn1/status/1 ... 98/photo/1
Ya gotta admit, on a story like this, getting the preferred pronouns correct can be a challenge,
...& standy by to get canceled if you get one wrong.
now you're really gonna be confused:
"Club Q shooting suspect is nonbinary, defense attorneys say" https://www.denverpost.com/2022/11/22/a ... inary/amp/
Thankfully Mx Aldrich's attorney stated their preferred pronouns.
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old salt wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 10:29 pm
NattyBohChamps04 wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:51 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:07 pm
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 1:09 pm Culture Warrior; yeah!!!!

https://twitter.com/jennycohn1/status/1 ... 98/photo/1
Ya gotta admit, on a story like this, getting the preferred pronouns correct can be a challenge,
...& standy by to get canceled if you get one wrong.
Challenge? To do like 2 minutes of research per victim? Treating a human as a human being. Treating them how they wanted to be treated and not a talking point is about the least challenging thing to do in a major story like this. And a large part of their humanity.

They're not getting pronouns wrong on accident. It's not a challenge. And no one is "cancelling" them for that. The real "cancel culture" is murdering people for being themselves and not hurting anyone. Literally cancelling their life FFS. :roll:
Where does one go to do such research ? Is there a national registry of official preferred pronouns ?
Seriously? Their wallet is an unfortunate dead giveaway after getting killed by people who make jokes about pronouns. Ask loved ones. Look up their social media accounts.

You're saying it's challenging to do a few minutes the simplest journalistic research? It's like asking my kid where he left his shoes.
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old salt wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 10:29 pm
NattyBohChamps04 wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:51 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:07 pm
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 1:09 pm Culture Warrior; yeah!!!!

https://twitter.com/jennycohn1/status/1 ... 98/photo/1
Ya gotta admit, on a story like this, getting the preferred pronouns correct can be a challenge,
...& standy by to get canceled if you get one wrong.
Challenge? To do like 2 minutes of research per victim? Treating a human as a human being. Treating them how they wanted to be treated and not a talking point is about the least challenging thing to do in a major story like this. And a large part of their humanity.

They're not getting pronouns wrong on accident. It's not a challenge. And no one is "cancelling" them for that. The real "cancel culture" is murdering people for being themselves and not hurting anyone. Literally cancelling their life FFS. :roll:
Where does one go to do such research ? Is there a national registry of official preferred pronouns ?
As a matter of fact, smart*ss, there is. Remember? In fact, there's were countless rules on pronouns and ways to address people that YOU had to learn.

How big of a deal was it to address folks you served with correctly? Call a superior "sir" or "ma'am"? All the little rules civilians don't know...junior members salute first, and hundred of other tiny details you had to learn.

You got that just fine. Honorable discharge, right? So you managed to navigate those far more complicated social rules with no trouble.

But addressing someone in civilian life what THEY want to be addressed is somehow too complicated for you, and you just can't manage the energy to treat your fellow humans with just the barest of respect?

Buffalo cookies. Your'e just arguing to argue.
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a fan wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 10:50 pmBuffalo cookies. Your'e just arguing to argue.
In short...

Hi. My full name's [Horny]rad from LaxPower but I prefer to be called [Horny].

Edit: **Synonym for horny pending internal investigation, results unlikely to satisfy the murdered souls in this case.
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a fan wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 10:50 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 10:29 pm
NattyBohChamps04 wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:51 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:07 pm
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 1:09 pm Culture Warrior; yeah!!!!

https://twitter.com/jennycohn1/status/1 ... 98/photo/1
Ya gotta admit, on a story like this, getting the preferred pronouns correct can be a challenge,
...& standy by to get canceled if you get one wrong.
Challenge? To do like 2 minutes of research per victim? Treating a human as a human being. Treating them how they wanted to be treated and not a talking point is about the least challenging thing to do in a major story like this. And a large part of their humanity.

They're not getting pronouns wrong on accident. It's not a challenge. And no one is "cancelling" them for that. The real "cancel culture" is murdering people for being themselves and not hurting anyone. Literally cancelling their life FFS. :roll:
Where does one go to do such research ? Is there a national registry of official preferred pronouns ?
As a matter of fact, smart*ss, there is. Remember? In fact, there's were countless rules on pronouns and ways to address people that YOU had to learn.

How big of a deal was it to address folks you served with correctly? Call a superior "sir" or "ma'am"? All the little rules civilians don't know...junior members salute first, and hundred of other tiny details you had to learn.

You got that just fine. Honorable discharge, right? So you managed to navigate those far more complicated social rules with no trouble.

But addressing someone in civilian life what THEY want to be addressed is somehow too complicated for you, and you just can't manage the energy to treat your fellow humans with just the barest of respect?

Buffalo cookies. Your'e just arguing to argue.
How do you KNOW their PREFERRED pronouns ?
Excuse me Ma'am. Sorry to interrupt your shock & grief. I'm sorry for your loss.
May I ask you for your loved one's preferred pronouns & social media names ?
What does NattyBoh carry in his wallet that confirms his preferred pronouns ?
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old salt wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 11:37 pm How do you KNOW their PREFERRED pronouns ?
Excuse me Ma'am. Sorry to interrupt your shock & grief. I'm sorry for your loss.
Sigh. So you're gonna pretend that a guy who graduated from one of the best colleges in the world is too stupid to figure this out?

Fine.

Do ya think the police and DA's are interacting with these families? Take statements, identify bodies, all the nitty gritty of dealing with a mass shooting? Take a wild f'ing guess.

And when they do (this is REALLY hard, so pay attention)....they LISTEN to what the parents/family say about the kids who just got blown away by a nutjob.

That's it.

So to allow you to keep pretending that this is is difficult? If you we killed that day in Colorado springs, a DA or police officer would listen to your wife say "Captain Old Salt", and other words like "he" and, oh, I don't know......jot it down with all the other notes they take when investigating a crime scene, identifying bodies, etc.

Boy. That's SO hard to figure out. Are you sweating from just the thought of the effort needed here? When you were serving, did you refuse to do PT because figuring out who to call "sir" and who to call "lieutenant" was SO tiring and confusing?

Come on. You're better than this.
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a fan wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 12:00 am
old salt wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 11:37 pm How do you KNOW their PREFERRED pronouns ?
Excuse me Ma'am. Sorry to interrupt your shock & grief. I'm sorry for your loss.
Sigh. So you're gonna pretend that a guy who graduated from one of the best colleges in the world is too stupid to figure this out?

Fine.

Do ya think the police and DA's are interacting with these families? Take statements, identify bodies, all the nitty gritty of dealing with a mass shooting? Take a wild f'ing guess.

And when they do (this is REALLY hard, so pay attention)....they LISTEN to what the parents/family say about the kids who just got blown away by a nutjob.

That's it.

So to allow you to keep pretending that this is is difficult? If you we killed that day in Colorado springs, a DA or police officer would listen to your wife say "Captain Old Salt", and other words like "he" and, oh, I don't know......jot it down with all the other notes they take when investigating a crime scene, identifying bodies, etc.

Boy. That's SO hard to figure out. Are you sweating from just the thought of the effort needed here? When you were serving, did you refuse to do PT because figuring out who to call "sir" and who to call "lieutenant" was SO tiring and confusing?

Come on. You're better than this.
How 'bout Mx. Aldrich ? What were the police & media using as their pronouns in press conferences & reports before their attorney stipulated the correct pronouns in a legal filing ?
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old salt wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 12:03 am How 'bout Mx. Aldrich ? What were the police & media using as their pronouns in press conferences & reports before their attorney stipulated the correct pronouns in a legal filing ?
:lol: Like I said...arguing for the sake of arguing.

Have a good night, sir......
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wgdsr wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 10:25 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:07 pm
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 1:09 pm Culture Warrior; yeah!!!!

https://twitter.com/jennycohn1/status/1 ... 98/photo/1
Ya gotta admit, on a story like this, getting the preferred pronouns correct can be a challenge,
...& standy by to get canceled if you get one wrong.
now you're really gonna be confused:
"Club Q shooting suspect is nonbinary, defense attorneys say" https://www.denverpost.com/2022/11/22/a ... inary/amp/
And the guy killing gays in American Horror Story was a gay man who wanted to send a message that no once cared because the darkness embraces us all and we need to transcend it (more or less quoting, my Hobart boy Falchuk puts on a good show with elite acting)
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old salt wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 10:29 pm
NattyBohChamps04 wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:51 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:07 pm
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 1:09 pm Culture Warrior; yeah!!!!

https://twitter.com/jennycohn1/status/1 ... 98/photo/1
Ya gotta admit, on a story like this, getting the preferred pronouns correct can be a challenge,
...& standy by to get canceled if you get one wrong.
Challenge? To do like 2 minutes of research per victim? Treating a human as a human being. Treating them how they wanted to be treated and not a talking point is about the least challenging thing to do in a major story like this. And a large part of their humanity.

They're not getting pronouns wrong on accident. It's not a challenge. And no one is "cancelling" them for that. The real "cancel culture" is murdering people for being themselves and not hurting anyone. Literally cancelling their life FFS. :roll:
Where does one go to do such research ? Is there a national registry of official preferred pronouns ?
Somebody isn’t familiar with the Google machine?
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I am going to get a 4.0 in damage.

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NattyBohChamps04 wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 10:49 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 10:29 pm
NattyBohChamps04 wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:51 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:07 pm
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 1:09 pm Culture Warrior; yeah!!!!

https://twitter.com/jennycohn1/status/1 ... 98/photo/1
Ya gotta admit, on a story like this, getting the preferred pronouns correct can be a challenge,
...& standy by to get canceled if you get one wrong.
Challenge? To do like 2 minutes of research per victim? Treating a human as a human being. Treating them how they wanted to be treated and not a talking point is about the least challenging thing to do in a major story like this. And a large part of their humanity.

They're not getting pronouns wrong on accident. It's not a challenge. And no one is "cancelling" them for that. The real "cancel culture" is murdering people for being themselves and not hurting anyone. Literally cancelling their life FFS. :roll:
Where does one go to do such research ? Is there a national registry of official preferred pronouns ?
Seriously? Their wallet is an unfortunate dead giveaway after getting killed by people who make jokes about pronouns. Ask loved ones. Look up their social media accounts.

You're saying it's challenging to do a few minutes the simplest journalistic research? It's like asking my kid where he left his shoes.
My daughter once cried because she couldn’t find her bike helmet while standing over it in our front porch…that’s what we’re talking about here -6yr old level stuff
Harvard University, out
University of Utah, in

I am going to get a 4.0 in damage.

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a fan wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 10:50 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 10:29 pm
NattyBohChamps04 wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:51 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:07 pm
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 1:09 pm Culture Warrior; yeah!!!!

https://twitter.com/jennycohn1/status/1 ... 98/photo/1
Ya gotta admit, on a story like this, getting the preferred pronouns correct can be a challenge,
...& standy by to get canceled if you get one wrong.
Challenge? To do like 2 minutes of research per victim? Treating a human as a human being. Treating them how they wanted to be treated and not a talking point is about the least challenging thing to do in a major story like this. And a large part of their humanity.

They're not getting pronouns wrong on accident. It's not a challenge. And no one is "cancelling" them for that. The real "cancel culture" is murdering people for being themselves and not hurting anyone. Literally cancelling their life FFS. :roll:
Where does one go to do such research ? Is there a national registry of official preferred pronouns ?
As a matter of fact, smart*ss, there is. Remember? In fact, there's were countless rules on pronouns and ways to address people that YOU had to learn.

How big of a deal was it to address folks you served with correctly? Call a superior "sir" or "ma'am"? All the little rules civilians don't know...junior members salute first, and hundred of other tiny details you had to learn.

You got that just fine. Honorable discharge, right? So you managed to navigate those far more complicated social rules with no trouble.

But addressing someone in civilian life what THEY want to be addressed is somehow too complicated for you, and you just can't manage the energy to treat your fellow humans with just the barest of respect?

Buffalo cookies. Your'e just arguing to argue.
It’s an issue when one is used to giving commands but not believing others are human peers
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a fan wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 12:54 am
old salt wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 12:03 am How 'bout Mx. Aldrich ? What were the police & media using as their pronouns in press conferences & reports before their attorney stipulated the correct pronouns in a legal filing ?
:lol: Like I said...arguing for the sake of arguing.

Have a good night, sir......
Yep. Happens all the time around here. Rinse and repeat. :oops:
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Farfromgeneva wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 6:34 am
old salt wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 10:29 pm
NattyBohChamps04 wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:51 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:07 pm
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 1:09 pm Culture Warrior; yeah!!!!

https://twitter.com/jennycohn1/status/1 ... 98/photo/1
Ya gotta admit, on a story like this, getting the preferred pronouns correct can be a challenge,
...& standy by to get canceled if you get one wrong.
Challenge? To do like 2 minutes of research per victim? Treating a human as a human being. Treating them how they wanted to be treated and not a talking point is about the least challenging thing to do in a major story like this. And a large part of their humanity.

They're not getting pronouns wrong on accident. It's not a challenge. And no one is "cancelling" them for that. The real "cancel culture" is murdering people for being themselves and not hurting anyone. Literally cancelling their life FFS. :roll:
Where does one go to do such research ? Is there a national registry of official preferred pronouns ?
Somebody isn’t familiar with the Google machine?
That's how I found this.
https://www.denverpost.com/2022/11/22/a ... on-binary/

Apparently there's nothing in the Google machine about Mx. Aldrich's preferred pronouns or the media wouldn't have missed it for 2 days.
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Kismet wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 6:47 am
a fan wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 12:54 am
old salt wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 12:03 am How 'bout Mx. Aldrich ? What were the police & media using as their pronouns in press conferences & reports before their attorney stipulated the correct pronouns in a legal filing ?
:lol: Like I said...arguing for the sake of arguing.

Have a good night, sir......
Yep. Happens all the time around here. Rinse and repeat. :oops:
Yep. afan responded to me & had to have the last word (as usual),
& dumped a couple crates of apples & oranges, also as usual.
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Farfromgeneva wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 6:37 am
a fan wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 10:50 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 10:29 pm
NattyBohChamps04 wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:51 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:07 pm
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 1:09 pm Culture Warrior; yeah!!!!

https://twitter.com/jennycohn1/status/1 ... 98/photo/1
Ya gotta admit, on a story like this, getting the preferred pronouns correct can be a challenge,
...& standy by to get canceled if you get one wrong.
Challenge? To do like 2 minutes of research per victim? Treating a human as a human being. Treating them how they wanted to be treated and not a talking point is about the least challenging thing to do in a major story like this. And a large part of their humanity.

They're not getting pronouns wrong on accident. It's not a challenge. And no one is "cancelling" them for that. The real "cancel culture" is murdering people for being themselves and not hurting anyone. Literally cancelling their life FFS. :roll:
Where does one go to do such research ? Is there a national registry of official preferred pronouns ?
As a matter of fact, smart*ss, there is. Remember? In fact, there's were countless rules on pronouns and ways to address people that YOU had to learn.

How big of a deal was it to address folks you served with correctly? Call a superior "sir" or "ma'am"? All the little rules civilians don't know...junior members salute first, and hundred of other tiny details you had to learn.

You got that just fine. Honorable discharge, right? So you managed to navigate those far more complicated social rules with no trouble.

But addressing someone in civilian life what THEY want to be addressed is somehow too complicated for you, and you just can't manage the energy to treat your fellow humans with just the barest of respect?

Buffalo cookies. Your'e just arguing to argue.
It’s an issue when one is used to giving commands but not believing others are human peers
Don't be so hard on yourself.
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Farfromgeneva wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 6:35 am
NattyBohChamps04 wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 10:49 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 10:29 pm
NattyBohChamps04 wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:51 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:07 pm
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 1:09 pm Culture Warrior; yeah!!!!

https://twitter.com/jennycohn1/status/1 ... 98/photo/1
Ya gotta admit, on a story like this, getting the preferred pronouns correct can be a challenge,
...& standy by to get canceled if you get one wrong.
Challenge? To do like 2 minutes of research per victim? Treating a human as a human being. Treating them how they wanted to be treated and not a talking point is about the least challenging thing to do in a major story like this. And a large part of their humanity.

They're not getting pronouns wrong on accident. It's not a challenge. And no one is "cancelling" them for that. The real "cancel culture" is murdering people for being themselves and not hurting anyone. Literally cancelling their life FFS. :roll:
Where does one go to do such research ? Is there a national registry of official preferred pronouns ?
Seriously? Their wallet is an unfortunate dead giveaway after getting killed by people who make jokes about pronouns. Ask loved ones. Look up their social media accounts.

You're saying it's challenging to do a few minutes the simplest journalistic research? It's like asking my kid where he left his shoes.
My daughter once cried because she couldn’t find her bike helmet while standing over it in our front porch…that’s what we’re talking about here -6yr old level stuff
Modelling her fathers behavior.
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old salt wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 7:59 am
Kismet wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 6:47 am
a fan wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 12:54 am
old salt wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 12:03 am How 'bout Mx. Aldrich ? What were the police & media using as their pronouns in press conferences & reports before their attorney stipulated the correct pronouns in a legal filing ?
:lol: Like I said...arguing for the sake of arguing.

Have a good night, sir......
Yep. Happens all the time around here. Rinse and repeat. :oops:
Yep. afan responded to me & had to have the last word (as usual),
& dumped a couple crates of apples & oranges, also as usual.
and well deserved...also as usual. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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