All things CoronaVirus

[Typical Lax Dad]

Point being....she was vaccinated, had a breakthrough case in under a year, had symptoms and was treated. We may just have to live with it and if you have CV19 symptoms....you are prescribed a therapeutic, much like other illnesses.

Sure we can live with it. We have no choice. We are still living with the versions of the 1918 flu that are still circulating today.

Point being -- she was vaccinated.

This is step 1 in living with it. So, yet again, it is forking mouth breathers who are forking it up for all of us.

Just like how that a-hole Kyrie is forking over his team and fans for stupid selfish reasons.

yep……developing a vaccine is how you “live with it”

Anti-vaxxers and anti-maskers will take a brand spanking new anti-viral drug (that won't be against their religion) but heaven forbid they take a vax that's been around for nearly a year now, or mask up.

Freedom my ax. It's been a spite thing for months now.

Why is the development of an antiviral pill a negative thing? It's yet ANOTHER tool along with vaccination we have in our toolbox. Blowing smoke and complaining about Anti-Vaxxers does absolutely ZERO to help. Lot of it in this thread.

Joe

More twisting. Where did I say an anti-viral is a negative thing?

But there are people who'll immediately pop a new pill, or demand Ivermectin, or expect monoclonal antibody treatment, and have taken innumerable vaccines, but will be damned if they take a Covid vaccine or wear a mask, and you know it.

Those people do it out of spite.

Edit to add - I'll go one step further. Those who have taken the vaccine but defend others who choose to not take it are abrogating a responsibility to society.

Not my job to tell someone what health decision to make. Not yours either. People in the public health sphere get paid to do that. If those people chose not to listen, they either will face certain consequences or they won't. There will be unvaccinated people until the end of time, the sooner you realize that, the less time you will waste continuing to feel the need to fulfill "your responsibility".... Life is short, enjoy it. You want to spend all your time shaming others for being unvaccinated, so be it. DO NOT make others feel as if they are any less of a person than you are because you chose to morally shame them on a daily basis. Jesus christ, give me a break this bullcrap.

Joe

Joe, maybe the important question to ask yourself is why do you keep entering this conversation, much less like a bull in a china shop?

If it bothers you so much, why not avoid it?

Instead, you entered with the accusation that someone had called the development of an anti-viral drug that could help with Covid, a ""negative thing". That was false and unfounded. No one had said such. And it was obvious no one had said that.

and yet, that's how you entered.

But there is this very real issue that some people are actually refraining from getting vaccinated, with the screwy logic that they can't trust the vaccine, yet are willing to believe in a new drug (which does have serious promise, apparently!), much less a drug that definitely doesn't (ie ivermectin). Yeah, that really is a problem...doesn't make the new drug a "negative" but rather the people not getting vaccinated using it as an excuse are indeed a 'negative'.

so, folks explain that...

And then you turn and go back to this refrain that no one should have an opinion, much less say their opinion, about the responsibility we all have to one another, not just ourselves.

And you keep resorting to the same "Life is short, enjoy it" as if no one agrees with you as to enjoying life. Trust me, no one is disagreeing with you about that.

If you were solely making some sort of behavioral science argument that the best way to get the most people vaccinated as possible was to avoid "shaming" in the process, that'd actually be an interesting discussion...but instead you're ripping at the very argument that it's important at all.

and yeah, that's gonna get push back. Hard.

Obviously Joe isn’t vaccinated.

I am vaccinated TLD. I've been working in my company office for 3 days week since May now. Can only do that BECAUSE I am vaccinated. It's not so black and white as you make it. I can be of that opinion and still be vaccinated. Nonsense. Boy you guys are really something else. Accusatory to the NTH degree because you would rather morally shame somebody on this thread then spend the time thinking about the potential positives of an Antiviral pill. Instead, SClax goes right to the fact that Anti-Vaxxers are going to use it as a crutch? What about how it could potentially help an immunocompromised person who is vaccinated yet still contracts covid? Where's the discussion on that? Everything centers around anti-vaxx mouth breathers. None of those people EXIST on this god damn thread. Wasting your time constantly repeating it. Talking mostly to people on this thread that have the same narrow political narrative that you do. You don't even realize how much you guys just talk over each other and repeat the same bullcrap.

Joe

Why did you get vaccinated Joe?

[Typical Lax Dad]

Help on the way?

https://www.merck.com/news/merck-and-ri ... oderate-c/

Amazes me how potentially good news throws things off the rails here. I’m guilty at times but still amazing. Hope this EUA works out and saves lives.

Yep. It’s amazing that hoping people don’t put off being vaccinated because of the introduction of a therapeutic is viewed as “negative” by some people. When these people skip a vaccination and got to the hospital with COVID-19, I guarantee you they will ask for that pill. I am hoping people don’t look at a pill as a substitute for a vaccinated population.

Why can't your first thought be that's another hopefully extremely effective tool in our toolbox against this disease. WHY is everything "a substitute for vaccination" in your eyes. Your problem is with Pharma then, because they aren't going to stop making antivirals such as these, because people might rely on them instead of vaccination. Moronic..

Joe

My first thought was “it’s a good thing”. I believe I said back in April 2020, a therapeutic would help us get out of this. I brought up the possibility of people not getting vaccinated because of a therapeutic because it is a risk and not a good thing. I am in the risk business so it’s how my mind works. What’s the downside? What’s the mitigant? Also have an “If”, “Then”, “Else” kind of logic pattern…. You may be a “I just wing it” kind of person. You think taking a pill instead of getting vaccinated is a good thing Joey?

[wgdsr]

best thread on the boards.

[Farfromgeneva]

best thread on the boards.

Wait until I set up a thread titled "thirsty degenerate married males having fun" in Hamsterdam...Been on my to do list for a while but I'm trying to stay off the FBI's radar a bit longer...

[Typical Lax Dad]

best thread on the boards.

We have a therapeutic. This thing is over.

[wgdsr]

best thread on the boards.

We have a therapeutic. This thing is over.

thank god. seems like it's been forever.

[Typical Lax Dad]

best thread on the boards.

We have a therapeutic. This thing is over.

thank god. seems like it's been forever.

Yep. All the negativity has caused it to linger longer than normal.

[wgdsr]

best thread on the boards.

We have a therapeutic. This thing is over.

thank god. seems like it's been forever.

Yep. All the negativity has caused it to linger longer than normal.

silver lining we have a lot more experts in the field now.

[Typical Lax Dad]

best thread on the boards.

We have a therapeutic. This thing is over.

thank god. seems like it's been forever.

Yep. All the negativity has caused it to linger longer than normal.

silver lining we have a lot more experts in the field now.

Yep. Experts.

[Farfromgeneva]

best thread on the boards.

We have a therapeutic. This thing is over.

thank god. seems like it's been forever.

Yep. All the negativity has caused it to linger longer than normal.

silver lining we have a lot more experts in the field now.

Yep. Experts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHCTaUFXpP8

[runrussellrun]

My first thought was “it’s a good thing”. I believe I said back in April 2020, a therapeutic would help us get out of this. I brought up the possibility of people not getting vaccinated because of a therapeutic because it is a risk and not a good thing. I am in the risk business so it’s how my mind works. What’s the downside? What’s the mitigant? Also have an “If”, “Then”, “Else” kind of logic pattern…. You may be a “I just wing it” kind of person. You think taking a pill instead of getting vaccinated is a good thing Joey?

Ri$k bu$ine$$


too big to succeed.............bailouts .....here Kitty Kitty.....

[runrussellrun]

best thread on the boards.

We have a therapeutic. This thing is over.

thank god. seems like it's been forever.

Big pharma..........anyone have thoughts about how to purchase, or invest, in these companies. Seem to doing well.

Must be "risky' to develop a drug, with tax dollars.........Bayh Dole act......thanking you 40 years laters.......

Moderna ........we couldn't do it without you.

Any big pharma ADz on tv shows? during football games

[runrussellrun]

....yet give them a vaccine that may hurt their heart.....because, the RISK is small for the young of the world , of dying of covid. FACT.

Uh oh. RRR is peddling fear porn again.

Be specific........what part of the CDC/FDA vaccine "cormodites" and language about myocorditis (sp)........IS fear porn?

How am I, a covid survivor, a harm to your vaccinated parents, again?

sad....AFAN has continued his fecesbook mindset mentality. .........can't cherry pick your own answer....

[wgdsr]

looks like some scientists are agnostic on mrna boosters, as severe disease and death still well protected.
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/10/12/moderna ... sease.html

this should probably lead short term to the fda advisory panel declining to advise broad authorization, and then the wh/cdc recommending we go for it.

not sure why cdc and media keep promoting crazy low breakthrough hospitalization or death numbers (19,000) when individual states have actual numbers much higher. you'd think the real number would set up the booster plan. weird world.

[runrussellrun]

looks like some scientists are agnostic on mrna boosters, as severe disease and death still well protected.
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/10/12/moderna ... sease.html

this should probably lead short term to the fda advisory panel declining to advise broad authorization, and then the wh/cdc recommending we go for it.

not sure why cdc and media keep promoting crazy low breakthrough hospitalization or death numbers (19,000) when individual states have actual numbers much higher. you'd think the real number would set up the booster plan. weird world.

If you posted, and was missed, apologize in advance.

Death count/numbers of US deceased for 2020...yet?

Geez.....we still don't have 2019 either.

weird world indeed.

do you need a vaxx card to fly private?

[JoeMauer89]

Point being....she was vaccinated, had a breakthrough case in under a year, had symptoms and was treated. We may just have to live with it and if you have CV19 symptoms....you are prescribed a therapeutic, much like other illnesses.

Sure we can live with it. We have no choice. We are still living with the versions of the 1918 flu that are still circulating today.

Point being -- she was vaccinated.

This is step 1 in living with it. So, yet again, it is forking mouth breathers who are forking it up for all of us.

Just like how that a-hole Kyrie is forking over his team and fans for stupid selfish reasons.

yep……developing a vaccine is how you “live with it”

Anti-vaxxers and anti-maskers will take a brand spanking new anti-viral drug (that won't be against their religion) but heaven forbid they take a vax that's been around for nearly a year now, or mask up.

Freedom my ax. It's been a spite thing for months now.

Why is the development of an antiviral pill a negative thing? It's yet ANOTHER tool along with vaccination we have in our toolbox. Blowing smoke and complaining about Anti-Vaxxers does absolutely ZERO to help. Lot of it in this thread.

Joe

More twisting. Where did I say an anti-viral is a negative thing?

But there are people who'll immediately pop a new pill, or demand Ivermectin, or expect monoclonal antibody treatment, and have taken innumerable vaccines, but will be damned if they take a Covid vaccine or wear a mask, and you know it.

Those people do it out of spite.

Edit to add - I'll go one step further. Those who have taken the vaccine but defend others who choose to not take it are abrogating a responsibility to society.

Not my job to tell someone what health decision to make. Not yours either. People in the public health sphere get paid to do that. If those people chose not to listen, they either will face certain consequences or they won't. There will be unvaccinated people until the end of time, the sooner you realize that, the less time you will waste continuing to feel the need to fulfill "your responsibility".... Life is short, enjoy it. You want to spend all your time shaming others for being unvaccinated, so be it. DO NOT make others feel as if they are any less of a person than you are because you chose to morally shame them on a daily basis. Jesus christ, give me a break this bullcrap.

Joe

Joe, maybe the important question to ask yourself is why do you keep entering this conversation, much less like a bull in a china shop?

If it bothers you so much, why not avoid it?

Instead, you entered with the accusation that someone had called the development of an anti-viral drug that could help with Covid, a ""negative thing". That was false and unfounded. No one had said such. And it was obvious no one had said that.

and yet, that's how you entered.

But there is this very real issue that some people are actually refraining from getting vaccinated, with the screwy logic that they can't trust the vaccine, yet are willing to believe in a new drug (which does have serious promise, apparently!), much less a drug that definitely doesn't (ie ivermectin). Yeah, that really is a problem...doesn't make the new drug a "negative" but rather the people not getting vaccinated using it as an excuse are indeed a 'negative'.

so, folks explain that...

And then you turn and go back to this refrain that no one should have an opinion, much less say their opinion, about the responsibility we all have to one another, not just ourselves.

And you keep resorting to the same "Life is short, enjoy it" as if no one agrees with you as to enjoying life. Trust me, no one is disagreeing with you about that.

If you were solely making some sort of behavioral science argument that the best way to get the most people vaccinated as possible was to avoid "shaming" in the process, that'd actually be an interesting discussion...but instead you're ripping at the very argument that it's important at all.

and yeah, that's gonna get push back. Hard.

Obviously Joe isn’t vaccinated.

I am vaccinated TLD. I've been working in my company office for 3 days week since May now. Can only do that BECAUSE I am vaccinated. It's not so black and white as you make it. I can be of that opinion and still be vaccinated. Nonsense. Boy you guys are really something else. Accusatory to the NTH degree because you would rather morally shame somebody on this thread then spend the time thinking about the potential positives of an Antiviral pill. Instead, SClax goes right to the fact that Anti-Vaxxers are going to use it as a crutch? What about how it could potentially help an immunocompromised person who is vaccinated yet still contracts covid? Where's the discussion on that? Everything centers around anti-vaxx mouth breathers. None of those people EXIST on this god damn thread. Wasting your time constantly repeating it. Talking mostly to people on this thread that have the same narrow political narrative that you do. You don't even realize how much you guys just talk over each other and repeat the same bullcrap.

Joe

Why did you get vaccinated Joe?

I got vaccinated because I am capable of deducing that it was choice for me that the benefits outweighed the risks. But that was my DECISION. Not anybody else. Not the same for everyone.

Joe

[Typical Lax Dad]

Point being....she was vaccinated, had a breakthrough case in under a year, had symptoms and was treated. We may just have to live with it and if you have CV19 symptoms....you are prescribed a therapeutic, much like other illnesses.

Sure we can live with it. We have no choice. We are still living with the versions of the 1918 flu that are still circulating today.

Point being -- she was vaccinated.

This is step 1 in living with it. So, yet again, it is forking mouth breathers who are forking it up for all of us.

Just like how that a-hole Kyrie is forking over his team and fans for stupid selfish reasons.

yep……developing a vaccine is how you “live with it”

Anti-vaxxers and anti-maskers will take a brand spanking new anti-viral drug (that won't be against their religion) but heaven forbid they take a vax that's been around for nearly a year now, or mask up.

Freedom my ax. It's been a spite thing for months now.

Why is the development of an antiviral pill a negative thing? It's yet ANOTHER tool along with vaccination we have in our toolbox. Blowing smoke and complaining about Anti-Vaxxers does absolutely ZERO to help. Lot of it in this thread.

Joe

More twisting. Where did I say an anti-viral is a negative thing?

But there are people who'll immediately pop a new pill, or demand Ivermectin, or expect monoclonal antibody treatment, and have taken innumerable vaccines, but will be damned if they take a Covid vaccine or wear a mask, and you know it.

Those people do it out of spite.

Edit to add - I'll go one step further. Those who have taken the vaccine but defend others who choose to not take it are abrogating a responsibility to society.

Not my job to tell someone what health decision to make. Not yours either. People in the public health sphere get paid to do that. If those people chose not to listen, they either will face certain consequences or they won't. There will be unvaccinated people until the end of time, the sooner you realize that, the less time you will waste continuing to feel the need to fulfill "your responsibility".... Life is short, enjoy it. You want to spend all your time shaming others for being unvaccinated, so be it. DO NOT make others feel as if they are any less of a person than you are because you chose to morally shame them on a daily basis. Jesus christ, give me a break this bullcrap.

Joe

Joe, maybe the important question to ask yourself is why do you keep entering this conversation, much less like a bull in a china shop?

If it bothers you so much, why not avoid it?

Instead, you entered with the accusation that someone had called the development of an anti-viral drug that could help with Covid, a ""negative thing". That was false and unfounded. No one had said such. And it was obvious no one had said that.

and yet, that's how you entered.

But there is this very real issue that some people are actually refraining from getting vaccinated, with the screwy logic that they can't trust the vaccine, yet are willing to believe in a new drug (which does have serious promise, apparently!), much less a drug that definitely doesn't (ie ivermectin). Yeah, that really is a problem...doesn't make the new drug a "negative" but rather the people not getting vaccinated using it as an excuse are indeed a 'negative'.

so, folks explain that...

And then you turn and go back to this refrain that no one should have an opinion, much less say their opinion, about the responsibility we all have to one another, not just ourselves.

And you keep resorting to the same "Life is short, enjoy it" as if no one agrees with you as to enjoying life. Trust me, no one is disagreeing with you about that.

If you were solely making some sort of behavioral science argument that the best way to get the most people vaccinated as possible was to avoid "shaming" in the process, that'd actually be an interesting discussion...but instead you're ripping at the very argument that it's important at all.

and yeah, that's gonna get push back. Hard.

Obviously Joe isn’t vaccinated.

I am vaccinated TLD. I've been working in my company office for 3 days week since May now. Can only do that BECAUSE I am vaccinated. It's not so black and white as you make it. I can be of that opinion and still be vaccinated. Nonsense. Boy you guys are really something else. Accusatory to the NTH degree because you would rather morally shame somebody on this thread then spend the time thinking about the potential positives of an Antiviral pill. Instead, SClax goes right to the fact that Anti-Vaxxers are going to use it as a crutch? What about how it could potentially help an immunocompromised person who is vaccinated yet still contracts covid? Where's the discussion on that? Everything centers around anti-vaxx mouth breathers. None of those people EXIST on this god damn thread. Wasting your time constantly repeating it. Talking mostly to people on this thread that have the same narrow political narrative that you do. You don't even realize how much you guys just talk over each other and repeat the same bullcrap.

Joe

Why did you get vaccinated Joe?

I got vaccinated because I am capable of deducing that it was choice for me that the benefits outweighed the risks. But that was my DECISION. Not anybody else. Not the same for everyone.

Joe

What???!!! Risk is relevant??!! . Dude we all got to die some day. May as well be Covid-19. Who cares if you spread it. Fools gon’ die anyway.

[Farfromgeneva]

Point being....she was vaccinated, had a breakthrough case in under a year, had symptoms and was treated. We may just have to live with it and if you have CV19 symptoms....you are prescribed a therapeutic, much like other illnesses.

Sure we can live with it. We have no choice. We are still living with the versions of the 1918 flu that are still circulating today.

Point being -- she was vaccinated.

This is step 1 in living with it. So, yet again, it is forking mouth breathers who are forking it up for all of us.

Just like how that a-hole Kyrie is forking over his team and fans for stupid selfish reasons.

yep……developing a vaccine is how you “live with it”

Anti-vaxxers and anti-maskers will take a brand spanking new anti-viral drug (that won't be against their religion) but heaven forbid they take a vax that's been around for nearly a year now, or mask up.

Freedom my ax. It's been a spite thing for months now.

Why is the development of an antiviral pill a negative thing? It's yet ANOTHER tool along with vaccination we have in our toolbox. Blowing smoke and complaining about Anti-Vaxxers does absolutely ZERO to help. Lot of it in this thread.

Joe

More twisting. Where did I say an anti-viral is a negative thing?

But there are people who'll immediately pop a new pill, or demand Ivermectin, or expect monoclonal antibody treatment, and have taken innumerable vaccines, but will be damned if they take a Covid vaccine or wear a mask, and you know it.

Those people do it out of spite.

Edit to add - I'll go one step further. Those who have taken the vaccine but defend others who choose to not take it are abrogating a responsibility to society.

Not my job to tell someone what health decision to make. Not yours either. People in the public health sphere get paid to do that. If those people chose not to listen, they either will face certain consequences or they won't. There will be unvaccinated people until the end of time, the sooner you realize that, the less time you will waste continuing to feel the need to fulfill "your responsibility".... Life is short, enjoy it. You want to spend all your time shaming others for being unvaccinated, so be it. DO NOT make others feel as if they are any less of a person than you are because you chose to morally shame them on a daily basis. Jesus christ, give me a break this bullcrap.

Joe

Joe, maybe the important question to ask yourself is why do you keep entering this conversation, much less like a bull in a china shop?

If it bothers you so much, why not avoid it?

Instead, you entered with the accusation that someone had called the development of an anti-viral drug that could help with Covid, a ""negative thing". That was false and unfounded. No one had said such. And it was obvious no one had said that.

and yet, that's how you entered.

But there is this very real issue that some people are actually refraining from getting vaccinated, with the screwy logic that they can't trust the vaccine, yet are willing to believe in a new drug (which does have serious promise, apparently!), much less a drug that definitely doesn't (ie ivermectin). Yeah, that really is a problem...doesn't make the new drug a "negative" but rather the people not getting vaccinated using it as an excuse are indeed a 'negative'.

so, folks explain that...

And then you turn and go back to this refrain that no one should have an opinion, much less say their opinion, about the responsibility we all have to one another, not just ourselves.

And you keep resorting to the same "Life is short, enjoy it" as if no one agrees with you as to enjoying life. Trust me, no one is disagreeing with you about that.

If you were solely making some sort of behavioral science argument that the best way to get the most people vaccinated as possible was to avoid "shaming" in the process, that'd actually be an interesting discussion...but instead you're ripping at the very argument that it's important at all.

and yeah, that's gonna get push back. Hard.

Obviously Joe isn’t vaccinated.

I am vaccinated TLD. I've been working in my company office for 3 days week since May now. Can only do that BECAUSE I am vaccinated. It's not so black and white as you make it. I can be of that opinion and still be vaccinated. Nonsense. Boy you guys are really something else. Accusatory to the NTH degree because you would rather morally shame somebody on this thread then spend the time thinking about the potential positives of an Antiviral pill. Instead, SClax goes right to the fact that Anti-Vaxxers are going to use it as a crutch? What about how it could potentially help an immunocompromised person who is vaccinated yet still contracts covid? Where's the discussion on that? Everything centers around anti-vaxx mouth breathers. None of those people EXIST on this god damn thread. Wasting your time constantly repeating it. Talking mostly to people on this thread that have the same narrow political narrative that you do. You don't even realize how much you guys just talk over each other and repeat the same bullcrap.

Joe

Why did you get vaccinated Joe?

I got vaccinated because I am capable of deducing that it was choice for me that the benefits outweighed the risks. But that was my DECISION. Not anybody else. Not the same for everyone.

Joe

What???!!! Risk is relevant??!! . Dude we all got to die some day. May as well be Covid-19. Who cares if you spread it. Fools gon’ die anyway.

Work hard play hard Yo!

And he's haaard.

[JoeMauer89]

Point being....she was vaccinated, had a breakthrough case in under a year, had symptoms and was treated. We may just have to live with it and if you have CV19 symptoms....you are prescribed a therapeutic, much like other illnesses.

Sure we can live with it. We have no choice. We are still living with the versions of the 1918 flu that are still circulating today.

Point being -- she was vaccinated.

This is step 1 in living with it. So, yet again, it is forking mouth breathers who are forking it up for all of us.

Just like how that a-hole Kyrie is forking over his team and fans for stupid selfish reasons.

yep……developing a vaccine is how you “live with it”

Anti-vaxxers and anti-maskers will take a brand spanking new anti-viral drug (that won't be against their religion) but heaven forbid they take a vax that's been around for nearly a year now, or mask up.

Freedom my ax. It's been a spite thing for months now.

Why is the development of an antiviral pill a negative thing? It's yet ANOTHER tool along with vaccination we have in our toolbox. Blowing smoke and complaining about Anti-Vaxxers does absolutely ZERO to help. Lot of it in this thread.

Joe

More twisting. Where did I say an anti-viral is a negative thing?

But there are people who'll immediately pop a new pill, or demand Ivermectin, or expect monoclonal antibody treatment, and have taken innumerable vaccines, but will be damned if they take a Covid vaccine or wear a mask, and you know it.

Those people do it out of spite.

Edit to add - I'll go one step further. Those who have taken the vaccine but defend others who choose to not take it are abrogating a responsibility to society.

Not my job to tell someone what health decision to make. Not yours either. People in the public health sphere get paid to do that. If those people chose not to listen, they either will face certain consequences or they won't. There will be unvaccinated people until the end of time, the sooner you realize that, the less time you will waste continuing to feel the need to fulfill "your responsibility".... Life is short, enjoy it. You want to spend all your time shaming others for being unvaccinated, so be it. DO NOT make others feel as if they are any less of a person than you are because you chose to morally shame them on a daily basis. Jesus christ, give me a break this bullcrap.

Joe

Joe, maybe the important question to ask yourself is why do you keep entering this conversation, much less like a bull in a china shop?

If it bothers you so much, why not avoid it?

Instead, you entered with the accusation that someone had called the development of an anti-viral drug that could help with Covid, a ""negative thing". That was false and unfounded. No one had said such. And it was obvious no one had said that.

and yet, that's how you entered.

But there is this very real issue that some people are actually refraining from getting vaccinated, with the screwy logic that they can't trust the vaccine, yet are willing to believe in a new drug (which does have serious promise, apparently!), much less a drug that definitely doesn't (ie ivermectin). Yeah, that really is a problem...doesn't make the new drug a "negative" but rather the people not getting vaccinated using it as an excuse are indeed a 'negative'.

so, folks explain that...

And then you turn and go back to this refrain that no one should have an opinion, much less say their opinion, about the responsibility we all have to one another, not just ourselves.

And you keep resorting to the same "Life is short, enjoy it" as if no one agrees with you as to enjoying life. Trust me, no one is disagreeing with you about that.

If you were solely making some sort of behavioral science argument that the best way to get the most people vaccinated as possible was to avoid "shaming" in the process, that'd actually be an interesting discussion...but instead you're ripping at the very argument that it's important at all.

and yeah, that's gonna get push back. Hard.

Obviously Joe isn’t vaccinated.

I am vaccinated TLD. I've been working in my company office for 3 days week since May now. Can only do that BECAUSE I am vaccinated. It's not so black and white as you make it. I can be of that opinion and still be vaccinated. Nonsense. Boy you guys are really something else. Accusatory to the NTH degree because you would rather morally shame somebody on this thread then spend the time thinking about the potential positives of an Antiviral pill. Instead, SClax goes right to the fact that Anti-Vaxxers are going to use it as a crutch? What about how it could potentially help an immunocompromised person who is vaccinated yet still contracts covid? Where's the discussion on that? Everything centers around anti-vaxx mouth breathers. None of those people EXIST on this god damn thread. Wasting your time constantly repeating it. Talking mostly to people on this thread that have the same narrow political narrative that you do. You don't even realize how much you guys just talk over each other and repeat the same bullcrap.

Joe

Why did you get vaccinated Joe?

I got vaccinated because I am capable of deducing that it was choice for me that the benefits outweighed the risks. But that was my DECISION. Not anybody else. Not the same for everyone.

Joe

What???!!! Risk is relevant??!! . Dude we all got to die some day. May as well be Covid-19. Who cares if you spread it. Fools gon’ die anyway.

I'm really puzzled at this response? Seems like your taking your anger about Anti-Vaxxer's out on me. Fair enough, I can handle it. Use that anger and turn it into a positive. You know all about turning risk into reward!

Joe

[Typical Lax Dad]

Point being....she was vaccinated, had a breakthrough case in under a year, had symptoms and was treated. We may just have to live with it and if you have CV19 symptoms....you are prescribed a therapeutic, much like other illnesses.

Sure we can live with it. We have no choice. We are still living with the versions of the 1918 flu that are still circulating today.

Point being -- she was vaccinated.

This is step 1 in living with it. So, yet again, it is forking mouth breathers who are forking it up for all of us.

Just like how that a-hole Kyrie is forking over his team and fans for stupid selfish reasons.

yep……developing a vaccine is how you “live with it”

Anti-vaxxers and anti-maskers will take a brand spanking new anti-viral drug (that won't be against their religion) but heaven forbid they take a vax that's been around for nearly a year now, or mask up.

Freedom my ax. It's been a spite thing for months now.

Why is the development of an antiviral pill a negative thing? It's yet ANOTHER tool along with vaccination we have in our toolbox. Blowing smoke and complaining about Anti-Vaxxers does absolutely ZERO to help. Lot of it in this thread.

Joe

More twisting. Where did I say an anti-viral is a negative thing?

But there are people who'll immediately pop a new pill, or demand Ivermectin, or expect monoclonal antibody treatment, and have taken innumerable vaccines, but will be damned if they take a Covid vaccine or wear a mask, and you know it.

Those people do it out of spite.

Edit to add - I'll go one step further. Those who have taken the vaccine but defend others who choose to not take it are abrogating a responsibility to society.

Not my job to tell someone what health decision to make. Not yours either. People in the public health sphere get paid to do that. If those people chose not to listen, they either will face certain consequences or they won't. There will be unvaccinated people until the end of time, the sooner you realize that, the less time you will waste continuing to feel the need to fulfill "your responsibility".... Life is short, enjoy it. You want to spend all your time shaming others for being unvaccinated, so be it. DO NOT make others feel as if they are any less of a person than you are because you chose to morally shame them on a daily basis. Jesus christ, give me a break this bullcrap.

Joe

Joe, maybe the important question to ask yourself is why do you keep entering this conversation, much less like a bull in a china shop?

If it bothers you so much, why not avoid it?

Instead, you entered with the accusation that someone had called the development of an anti-viral drug that could help with Covid, a ""negative thing". That was false and unfounded. No one had said such. And it was obvious no one had said that.

and yet, that's how you entered.

But there is this very real issue that some people are actually refraining from getting vaccinated, with the screwy logic that they can't trust the vaccine, yet are willing to believe in a new drug (which does have serious promise, apparently!), much less a drug that definitely doesn't (ie ivermectin). Yeah, that really is a problem...doesn't make the new drug a "negative" but rather the people not getting vaccinated using it as an excuse are indeed a 'negative'.

so, folks explain that...

And then you turn and go back to this refrain that no one should have an opinion, much less say their opinion, about the responsibility we all have to one another, not just ourselves.

And you keep resorting to the same "Life is short, enjoy it" as if no one agrees with you as to enjoying life. Trust me, no one is disagreeing with you about that.

If you were solely making some sort of behavioral science argument that the best way to get the most people vaccinated as possible was to avoid "shaming" in the process, that'd actually be an interesting discussion...but instead you're ripping at the very argument that it's important at all.

and yeah, that's gonna get push back. Hard.

Obviously Joe isn’t vaccinated.

I am vaccinated TLD. I've been working in my company office for 3 days week since May now. Can only do that BECAUSE I am vaccinated. It's not so black and white as you make it. I can be of that opinion and still be vaccinated. Nonsense. Boy you guys are really something else. Accusatory to the NTH degree because you would rather morally shame somebody on this thread then spend the time thinking about the potential positives of an Antiviral pill. Instead, SClax goes right to the fact that Anti-Vaxxers are going to use it as a crutch? What about how it could potentially help an immunocompromised person who is vaccinated yet still contracts covid? Where's the discussion on that? Everything centers around anti-vaxx mouth breathers. None of those people EXIST on this god damn thread. Wasting your time constantly repeating it. Talking mostly to people on this thread that have the same narrow political narrative that you do. You don't even realize how much you guys just talk over each other and repeat the same bullcrap.

Joe

Why did you get vaccinated Joe?

I got vaccinated because I am capable of deducing that it was choice for me that the benefits outweighed the risks. But that was my DECISION. Not anybody else. Not the same for everyone.

Joe

What???!!! Risk is relevant??!! . Dude we all got to die some day. May as well be Covid-19. Who cares if you spread it. Fools gon’ die anyway.

I'm really puzzled at this response? Seems like your taking your anger about Anti-Vaxxer's out on me. Fair enough, I can handle it. Use that anger and turn it into a positive. You know all about turning risk into reward!

Joe

Anger? You got the wrong guy.