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Re: Johns Hopkins 2023

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2023 8:08 pm
by Farfromgeneva
CU77 wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 7:56 pm
BlueJaySince1947 wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 6:34 pm Watching the tape delay on ESPNU ...
How do you get Quint to simply SHUT UP...!!!
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Yeah. Guess that’s better than disappearing his body in the swampland near the meadowlands which was going to be my suggestion.

Re: Johns Hopkins 2023

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2023 8:09 pm
by flalax22
BlueJaySince1947 wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 6:34 pm Watching the tape delay on ESPNU ...
How do you get Quint to simply SHUT UP...!!!
Pair em with Carc and you get less Quint but then are faced with the dilemma of wanting them both to shut up.

Re: Johns Hopkins 2023

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2023 8:20 pm
by flalax22
primitiveskills wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 7:42 pm
flalax22 wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 5:17 pm
Sagittarius A* wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 7:22 am
primitiveskills wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 2:47 pm I would much rather have Collison initiating than Grimes
It looked like they moved Grimes to attack in the fourth, which was his HS position, and ran Melendez (who has a cannon) out of the midfield presumably to get a better match up.
Grimes was a HS superstar and has a good shot.
They need to find a way to utilize his strengths.
I just want the coaches to help the kid access the potential. He’s a junior now and while injuries have played a role he should be dominating.
And how should the coaches do that? This is the third different offense he's been in. In two games so far, he's played up top and on the wing. He's initiated, carried, and played off ball. He's done fine, getting a couple of points a game. I give him a lot of credit for fighting through injuries to contribute to the offense. To expect him to "dominate" doesn't seem to be based on a realistic assessment of his game at this point.
Hey maybe this is his ceiling and if it is it’s “fine” as a secondary contributor. Just not the billing or what you expect seeing him get off the bus.

Re: Johns Hopkins 2023

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2023 8:26 pm
by flalax22
HopFan16 wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 5:36 pm
flalax22 wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 5:15 pm Disagree. While many on this board celebrate the return of Crawley to replace Grant Jr and his inept O which is absolutely warranted there was a coach or coaches on staff who thought the team was better with Marcille on the Bench and it’s PM or JK or both.
Maybe they were better? It wouldn't be the first time a goalie largely struggled but then figured it out later on in his career. Eric Schneider comes to mind. Marcille did have opportunities — prior to this season he had played in 7 games with 4 starts — but wasn't any more consistent than the other guy. In fact their stats were nearly identical. And that's without knowing what was going on at practice, as you said. He helped get us to the B1G title game vs. Maryland in 2021 but then laid an absolute egg in a game we might have won with even a below-average goalie performance. He's getting another opportunity now and he's killing it.

Anyway not sure why we need to relitigate this and can't just enjoy the solid play. The last two performances have earned him a long leash.

BTW, I hope by now people understand how profoundly stupid Sag A's "we are underdogs in every game" preseason analysis was. How's that holding up?
The Schneider comparison is fair. But as you said he’s a kid that played in the B1G title game and then was stapled to the bench last year. I don’t believe he suddenly figured it out.

Did he have some opportunity sure but I will always believe had he been given the leash Kirson was the Jays would have won more games.

Re: Johns Hopkins 2023

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2023 8:32 pm
by Finster
flalax22 wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 5:17 pm
Sagittarius A* wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 7:22 am
primitiveskills wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 2:47 pm I would much rather have Collison initiating than Grimes
It looked like they moved Grimes to attack in the fourth, which was his HS position, and ran Melendez (who has a cannon) out of the midfield presumably to get a better match up.
Grimes was a HS superstar and has a good shot.
They need to find a way to utilize his strengths.
I just want the coaches to help the kid access the potential. He’s a junior now and while injuries have played a role he should be dominating.



I just finished watching the Gtown/JHU game on ESPNu.

Grimes seems similar to Wisnauskas, similar size, noticably faster on his feet, but same rocket lefty shot. Seems they both have a great feel for field awareness and teammate skill sets. But the left handed shot is what stands out to the outside observer.

If I were the Hop coaching staff, if there is a way to utilize him to take advantage of his shot, that seems to be the solution.

Re: Johns Hopkins 2023

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2023 8:39 pm
by Finster
molo wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 4:03 pm No comparison between Solomon and Peshko.


I just watched the Gtown Hop game on ESPNu. Very entertaining tbh. Syracuse fan here.

Hopkins really wanted that game. The effort on GB's and out of bound foot races were the difference IMO. Both goalies played well. Both FOGO's played well. The passing was good.

I really like Hopkins defense. Very aggressive; no fear.

On offense, Peshko finds where to be, often. Smart player. Your freshman, #16, will be All-American, no doubt. Stud.

If there is any difference this year versus others for HOP, it might be that you finally have a fast player on offense, Melendez, who clearly wants the ball and doesn't turn it over. If you could found fault with HOP the last few years, it seemed there was no one on the team with that foot speed who also wanted the ball.

HOP will be a tough out for any team this year. The Baltimore teams (Loyola, HOP, Towson, and MD) might beat up each other a tad...I'm not sure there's much daylight among them early in the season; as a season progresses, I'd expect MD and maybe HOP to distance themselves, but early on, there is no easy call as to who will beat who.

Good luck.

Re: Johns Hopkins 2023

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2023 8:50 pm
by 10stone5
Finster wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 8:32 pm
flalax22 wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 5:17 pm
Sagittarius A* wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 7:22 am
primitiveskills wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 2:47 pm I would much rather have Collison initiating than Grimes
It looked like they moved Grimes to attack in the fourth, which was his HS position, and ran Melendez (who has a cannon) out of the midfield presumably to get a better match up.
Grimes was a HS superstar and has a good shot.
They need to find a way to utilize his strengths.
I just want the coaches to help the kid access the potential. He’s a junior now and while injuries have played a role he should be dominating.



I just finished watching the Gtown/JHU game on ESPNu.

Grimes seems similar to Wisnauskas, similar size, noticably faster on his feet, but same rocket lefty shot. Seems they both have a great feel for field awareness and teammate skill sets. But the left handed shot is what stands out to the outside observer.

If I were the Hop coaching staff, if there is a way to utilize him to take advantage of his shot, that seems to be the solution.
Not a bad analogy at all,

hope he develops in that direction.

Re: Johns Hopkins 2023

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2023 9:09 pm
by primitiveskills
10stone5 wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 8:50 pm
Finster wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 8:32 pm
flalax22 wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 5:17 pm
Sagittarius A* wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 7:22 am
primitiveskills wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 2:47 pm I would much rather have Collison initiating than Grimes
It looked like they moved Grimes to attack in the fourth, which was his HS position, and ran Melendez (who has a cannon) out of the midfield presumably to get a better match up.
Grimes was a HS superstar and has a good shot.
They need to find a way to utilize his strengths.
I just want the coaches to help the kid access the potential. He’s a junior now and while injuries have played a role he should be dominating.



I just finished watching the Gtown/JHU game on ESPNu.

Grimes seems similar to Wisnauskas, similar size, noticably faster on his feet, but same rocket lefty shot. Seems they both have a great feel for field awareness and teammate skill sets. But the left handed shot is what stands out to the outside observer.

If I were the Hop coaching staff, if there is a way to utilize him to take advantage of his shot, that seems to be the solution.
Not a bad analogy at all,

hope he develops in that direction.
It would be nice. I don't think I've seen a player develop as dramatically as Wisnauskas. He was really a complete offensive player by the end of his career, a threat off the dodge, as a feeder, distributing, shooting. His off ball ability/ sense was always terrific. Would be happy to be proven wrong but I think he was a unique and extraordinary case.

Re: Johns Hopkins 2023

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2023 9:20 pm
by smoova
Finster wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 8:39 pm The Baltimore teams (Loyola, HOP, Towson, and MD) might beat up each other a tad...I'm not sure there's much daylight among them early in the season; as a season progresses, I'd expect MD and maybe HOP to distance themselves, but early on, there is no easy call as to who will beat who.
The fact that this was posted roughly 24 hours after Loyola nearly doubled up the Terps is gold, pure gold!

Re: Johns Hopkins 2023

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2023 9:26 pm
by 10stone5
smoova wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 9:20 pm
Finster wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 8:39 pm The Baltimore teams (Loyola, HOP, Towson, and MD) might beat up each other a tad...I'm not sure there's much daylight among them early in the season; as a season progresses, I'd expect MD and maybe HOP to distance themselves, but early on, there is no easy call as to who will beat who.
The fact that this was posted roughly 24 hours after Loyola nearly doubled up the Terps is gold, pure gold!
The point being all 4 teams have a lot of talent,
yes, even the Tigers.
Its been a while.

Re: Johns Hopkins 2023

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2023 9:34 pm
by Farfromgeneva
10stone5 wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 9:26 pm
smoova wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 9:20 pm
Finster wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 8:39 pm The Baltimore teams (Loyola, HOP, Towson, and MD) might beat up each other a tad...I'm not sure there's much daylight among them early in the season; as a season progresses, I'd expect MD and maybe HOP to distance themselves, but early on, there is no easy call as to who will beat who.
The fact that this was posted roughly 24 hours after Loyola nearly doubled up the Terps is gold, pure gold!
The point being all 4 teams have a lot of talent,
yes, even the Tigers.
Its been a while.
2017 doesn’t seem that long ago.

Re: Johns Hopkins 2023

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2023 10:14 pm
by 10stone5
Farfromgeneva wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 9:34 pm
10stone5 wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 9:26 pm
smoova wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 9:20 pm
Finster wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 8:39 pm The Baltimore teams (Loyola, HOP, Towson, and MD) might beat up each other a tad...I'm not sure there's much daylight among them early in the season; as a season progresses, I'd expect MD and maybe HOP to distance themselves, but early on, there is no easy call as to who will beat who.
The fact that this was posted roughly 24 hours after Loyola nearly doubled up the Terps is gold, pure gold!
The point being all 4 teams have a lot of talent,
yes, even the Tigers.
Its been a while.
2017 doesn’t seem that long ago.
Great year,
a national title and two final four teams.

Re: Johns Hopkins 2023

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2023 10:24 pm
by Farfromgeneva
10stone5 wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 10:14 pm
Farfromgeneva wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 9:34 pm
10stone5 wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 9:26 pm
smoova wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 9:20 pm
Finster wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 8:39 pm The Baltimore teams (Loyola, HOP, Towson, and MD) might beat up each other a tad...I'm not sure there's much daylight among them early in the season; as a season progresses, I'd expect MD and maybe HOP to distance themselves, but early on, there is no easy call as to who will beat who.
The fact that this was posted roughly 24 hours after Loyola nearly doubled up the Terps is gold, pure gold!
The point being all 4 teams have a lot of talent,
yes, even the Tigers.
Its been a while.
2017 doesn’t seem that long ago.
Great year,
a national title and two final four teams.
Loyola made the playoffs that year as well. Lost early to someone probably OSU.

Re: Johns Hopkins 2023

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2023 10:40 pm
by primitiveskills
Farfromgeneva wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 9:34 pm
10stone5 wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 9:26 pm
smoova wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 9:20 pm
Finster wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 8:39 pm The Baltimore teams (Loyola, HOP, Towson, and MD) might beat up each other a tad...I'm not sure there's much daylight among them early in the season; as a season progresses, I'd expect MD and maybe HOP to distance themselves, but early on, there is no easy call as to who will beat who.
The fact that this was posted roughly 24 hours after Loyola nearly doubled up the Terps is gold, pure gold!
The point being all 4 teams have a lot of talent,
yes, even the Tigers.
Its been a while.
2017 doesn’t seem that long ago.
It doesn't until you remember that 2017 is when Tucker Dordevic graduated from HS!

Re: Johns Hopkins 2023

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2023 10:52 pm
by get it to x
primitiveskills wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 10:40 pm
Farfromgeneva wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 9:34 pm
10stone5 wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 9:26 pm
smoova wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 9:20 pm
Finster wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 8:39 pm The Baltimore teams (Loyola, HOP, Towson, and MD) might beat up each other a tad...I'm not sure there's much daylight among them early in the season; as a season progresses, I'd expect MD and maybe HOP to distance themselves, but early on, there is no easy call as to who will beat who.
The fact that this was posted roughly 24 hours after Loyola nearly doubled up the Terps is gold, pure gold!
The point being all 4 teams have a lot of talent,
yes, even the Tigers.
Its been a while.
2017 doesn’t seem that long ago.
It doesn't until you remember that 2017 is when Tucker Dordevic graduated from HS!
Why don't we all relax a little bit. The 2023 version of the Jays is getting the job done. Wait for it.

Re: Johns Hopkins 2023

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2023 11:11 pm
by keno in reno
primitiveskills wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 10:40 pm
Farfromgeneva wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 9:34 pm
10stone5 wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 9:26 pm
smoova wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 9:20 pm
Finster wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 8:39 pm The Baltimore teams (Loyola, HOP, Towson, and MD) might beat up each other a tad...I'm not sure there's much daylight among them early in the season; as a season progresses, I'd expect MD and maybe HOP to distance themselves, but early on, there is no easy call as to who will beat who.
The fact that this was posted roughly 24 hours after Loyola nearly doubled up the Terps is gold, pure gold!
The point being all 4 teams have a lot of talent,
yes, even the Tigers.
Its been a while.
2017 doesn’t seem that long ago.
It doesn't until you remember that 2017 is when Tucker Dordevic graduated from HS!
Who is criticizing Tucker Dordevic? Funny how Hopkins wins 1 game at home, down 3 goals late in the game, and fans are so drunk on life to criticize teams that have dominated them for a decade as well as great individual players who have nothing to do with them...cool!

Re: Johns Hopkins 2023

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2023 11:44 pm
by DocBarrister
get it to x wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 10:52 pm
primitiveskills wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 10:40 pm
Farfromgeneva wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 9:34 pm
10stone5 wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 9:26 pm
smoova wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 9:20 pm
Finster wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 8:39 pm The Baltimore teams (Loyola, HOP, Towson, and MD) might beat up each other a tad...I'm not sure there's much daylight among them early in the season; as a season progresses, I'd expect MD and maybe HOP to distance themselves, but early on, there is no easy call as to who will beat who.
The fact that this was posted roughly 24 hours after Loyola nearly doubled up the Terps is gold, pure gold!
The point being all 4 teams have a lot of talent,
yes, even the Tigers.
Its been a while.
2017 doesn’t seem that long ago.
It doesn't until you remember that 2017 is when Tucker Dordevic graduated from HS!
Why don't we all relax a little bit. The 2023 version of the Jays is getting the job done. Wait for it.
Just a couple of days until a big game against North Carolina.

Blue Jays will need to dig deep to win that one. Go Blue Jays!

DocBarrister

Re: Johns Hopkins 2023

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2023 11:58 pm
by get it to x
So I have been watching this team since I was a 4th grader. This has the feel of one of those Hopkins teams.

Re: Johns Hopkins 2023

Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2023 7:16 am
by HopFan16
keno in reno wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 11:11 pm
primitiveskills wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 10:40 pm
Farfromgeneva wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 9:34 pm
10stone5 wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 9:26 pm
smoova wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 9:20 pm
Finster wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 8:39 pm The Baltimore teams (Loyola, HOP, Towson, and MD) might beat up each other a tad...I'm not sure there's much daylight among them early in the season; as a season progresses, I'd expect MD and maybe HOP to distance themselves, but early on, there is no easy call as to who will beat who.
The fact that this was posted roughly 24 hours after Loyola nearly doubled up the Terps is gold, pure gold!
The point being all 4 teams have a lot of talent,
yes, even the Tigers.
Its been a while.
2017 doesn’t seem that long ago.
It doesn't until you remember that 2017 is when Tucker Dordevic graduated from HS!
Who is criticizing Tucker Dordevic? Funny how Hopkins wins 1 game at home, down 3 goals late in the game, and fans are so drunk on life to criticize teams that have dominated them for a decade as well as great individual players who have nothing to do with them...cool!
What are you talking about? What Hopkins fan is “criticizing teams that have dominated them for a decade”? What a weird post. I can only assume you mistakenly think smoova is a Hopkins fan because that's the only way this post makes any sense. Parachuted in with a victim complex.

Re: Johns Hopkins 2023

Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2023 9:05 am
by Finster
smoova wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 9:20 pm
Finster wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 8:39 pm The Baltimore teams (Loyola, HOP, Towson, and MD) might beat up each other a tad...I'm not sure there's much daylight among them early in the season; as a season progresses, I'd expect MD and maybe HOP to distance themselves, but early on, there is no easy call as to who will beat who.
The fact that this was posted roughly 24 hours after Loyola nearly doubled up the Terps is gold, pure gold!



Straight dopes parachute in to threads unrelated to their own focus, so they must (must!!) overlay harebrained interpretations of convos they were never part of. That isn’t gold or even pure gold, it’s a standard reactionary pig-ignorance.

10Stone replied much nicer than I would, Chief.