Re: Johns Hopkins 2024
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 10:23 pm
Melendez's performance has been a mystery. Truely positionless offense tonight. No one was playing their position effectively outside of degnon.
This is still a great historic rivalry. 2 wins in a row for Navy at Homewood -- that last happened in 1965.youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 10:00 pm+1DocBarrister wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 9:53 pmAbsolutely.
Midshipmen showed their character … outworked and outplayed the Blue Jays.
Kind of what you expect for a bunch of guys who will put their lives on the line for our country.
Congrats on a great effort and win.
DocBarrister
I think it's time to retire the series and schedule some actual cupcakes like others have. What's mount saint mary's up to?old salt wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 10:27 pmThis is still a great historic rivalry. 2 wins in a row for Navy at Homewood -- that last happened in 1965.youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 10:00 pm+1DocBarrister wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 9:53 pmAbsolutely.
Midshipmen showed their character … outworked and outplayed the Blue Jays.
Kind of what you expect for a bunch of guys who will put their lives on the line for our country.
Congrats on a great effort and win.
DocBarrister
This non-conference week seems to work for both programs. Well attended by both fan bases.
Don't let this series end, again.
And you can’t rely on Degnon to score 5 goals every game.Hoponboard wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 10:22 pm Last season, Melendez (37) and English (6) produced 43 goals. 8 this season and English is out for the year. That’s a lot of offense that has vanished.
Team needs an alpha dodging option that isn't afraid to go to the track. I thought that would be Angeles, Melendez, or possibly Collison. But none have shown that assertiveness with any effectiveness on a consistent basis. I'd be all for starting Ayers just to experiment.DocBarrister wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 10:33 pmAnd you can’t rely on Degnon to score 5 goals every game.Hoponboard wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 10:22 pm Last season, Melendez (37) and English (6) produced 43 goals. 8 this season and English is out for the year. That’s a lot of offense that has vanished.
The Hopkins O is seriously messed up right now.
The O doesn’t lack talent. They don’t lack athleticism or speed. They don’t lack depth. We know they can score a lot of goals against good teams.
What they do lack is consistency. Seems like someone on the O is always having a bad game. The O also seems to take a quarter off on occasion.
Degnon is masking some serious deficiencies on the O.
DocBarrister
I think what we saw tonight is the difference between a group of men who have volunteered to defend our nation and a bunch of boys who plan to make some serious $$ on Wall Street.old salt wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 10:27 pmThis is still a great historic rivalry. 2 wins in a row for Navy at Homewood -- that last happened in 1965.youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 10:00 pm+1DocBarrister wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 9:53 pmAbsolutely.
Midshipmen showed their character … outworked and outplayed the Blue Jays.
Kind of what you expect for a bunch of guys who will put their lives on the line for our country.
Congrats on a great effort and win.
DocBarrister
This non-conference week seems to work for both programs. Well attended by both fan bases.
Don't let this series end, again.
That’s supposed to be Collison, Grimes, and Melendez. But that’s not going to work if they are collectively shooting 1 for 12 (8.3%) with just 3 shots on goal (25%) (all by Collison).norcalhop wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 10:37 pmTeam needs an alpha dodging option that isn't afraid to go to the track. I thought that would be Angeles, Melendez, or possibly Collison. But none have shown that assertiveness with any effectiveness on a consistent basis. I'd be all for starting Ayers just to experiment.DocBarrister wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 10:33 pmAnd you can’t rely on Degnon to score 5 goals every game.Hoponboard wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 10:22 pm Last season, Melendez (37) and English (6) produced 43 goals. 8 this season and English is out for the year. That’s a lot of offense that has vanished.
The Hopkins O is seriously messed up right now.
The O doesn’t lack talent. They don’t lack athleticism or speed. They don’t lack depth. We know they can score a lot of goals against good teams.
What they do lack is consistency. Seems like someone on the O is always having a bad game. The O also seems to take a quarter off on occasion.
Degnon is masking some serious deficiencies on the O.
DocBarrister
+2DocBarrister wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 10:39 pmI think what we saw tonight is the difference between a group of men who have volunteered to defend our nation and a bunch of boys who plan to make some serious $$ on Wall Street.old salt wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 10:27 pmThis is still a great historic rivalry. 2 wins in a row for Navy at Homewood -- that last happened in 1965.youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 10:00 pm+1DocBarrister wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 9:53 pmAbsolutely.
Midshipmen showed their character … outworked and outplayed the Blue Jays.
Kind of what you expect for a bunch of guys who will put their lives on the line for our country.
Congrats on a great effort and win.
DocBarrister
This non-conference week seems to work for both programs. Well attended by both fan bases.
Don't let this series end, again.
Don’t get me wrong … the Blue Jays have plenty of time this season to show what kind of men they aspire to be (see the Band of Brothers of 2007).
For now, they can take some lessons from the men who rode to Homewood on three different buses and embarrassed them on their home field.
DocBarrister
Didn’t we need Cole Williams heroics the last time we saw that squad? Careful what you wish for.norcalhop wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 10:31 pmI think it's time to retire the series and schedule some actual cupcakes like others have. What's mount saint mary's up to?old salt wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 10:27 pmThis is still a great historic rivalry. 2 wins in a row for Navy at Homewood -- that last happened in 1965.youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 10:00 pm+1DocBarrister wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 9:53 pmAbsolutely.
Midshipmen showed their character … outworked and outplayed the Blue Jays.
Kind of what you expect for a bunch of guys who will put their lives on the line for our country.
Congrats on a great effort and win.
DocBarrister
This non-conference week seems to work for both programs. Well attended by both fan bases.
Don't let this series end, again.
I love this forum.DocBarrister wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 10:39 pmI think what we saw tonight is the difference between a group of men who have volunteered to defend our nation and a bunch of boys who plan to make some serious $$ on Wall Street.old salt wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 10:27 pmThis is still a great historic rivalry. 2 wins in a row for Navy at Homewood -- that last happened in 1965.youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 10:00 pm+1DocBarrister wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 9:53 pmAbsolutely.
Midshipmen showed their character … outworked and outplayed the Blue Jays.
Kind of what you expect for a bunch of guys who will put their lives on the line for our country.
Congrats on a great effort and win.
DocBarrister
This non-conference week seems to work for both programs. Well attended by both fan bases.
Don't let this series end, again.
Don’t get me wrong … the Blue Jays have plenty of time this season to show what kind of men they aspire to be (see the Band of Brothers of 2007).
For now, they can take some lessons from the men who rode to Homewood on three different buses and embarrassed them on their home field.
DocBarrister
That was during COVID and an anomaly. They are 0-7 this year.flalax22 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 11:02 pmDidn’t we need Cole Williams heroics the last time we saw that squad? Careful what you wish for.norcalhop wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 10:31 pmI think it's time to retire the series and schedule some actual cupcakes like others have. What's mount saint mary's up to?old salt wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 10:27 pmThis is still a great historic rivalry. 2 wins in a row for Navy at Homewood -- that last happened in 1965.youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 10:00 pm+1DocBarrister wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 9:53 pmAbsolutely.
Midshipmen showed their character … outworked and outplayed the Blue Jays.
Kind of what you expect for a bunch of guys who will put their lives on the line for our country.
Congrats on a great effort and win.
DocBarrister
This non-conference week seems to work for both programs. Well attended by both fan bases.
Don't let this series end, again.
This reminded me of the Denver game when Jays led 11-7 in the 3rd and the coaches thought it was over, and started experimenting with different lineups. Momentum is powerful, but also fragile. Up 6-1 in the 1st, you go for the blowout and worry about substituting when the outcome is not in doubt. Hopkins gave Navy life when they had a faint pulse.51percentcorn wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 10:54 pm There's clearly some issues here - specifically to this game and longer term. I feel - despite the loss last week - they might have looked at the Towson and Penn State scores and then went up 6-1 and said - done and done. All of the sudden I am seeing Carson Brown and Cam Chauvette in the first half. Those kids didn't do anything wrong of course - but it sends a message. Play the reserves when you're up by 5 goals later in the 4th quarter maybe. The execution and focus after the 1st quarter was truly 2012 Annapolis redux. Did you really think that kids that are going to go to pilot and SEAL candidate school are going to quit?
Long term - it's pretty easy to see the offense variability that is lacking - and it's tied to Melendez - Pete and Patrick Russell can say all they want about how he is doing what is necessary and he "let's the game come to him" but he's basically on pace for under 30 points - last year he had 53. He's on pace for something like 14-16 goals - last year he had 37. He's shooting 19% - by miles the worst of the offensive stalwarts. He shot 40% - repeat 40% last year. While he sort of looks OK when he has the ball in terms of mobility - it just isn't the same result. When you look at the Hopkins individual stats - the noticeable differences for pace from last year are Grimes (has seen playing time reduced and did not play well tonight) - Peshko is somewhat on pace (not far off) you have gotten zippy from Evans as compared to his 12 last year but the gorilla in the room is you are missing the 3+ points a game and the 2 goals a game from Melendez.
Defensively - the lack of focus was glaring - how does your AA candidate screw up the ball right in his stick leading to Navy's first goal? What was a senior AASSDM doing as Navy ran a fairly slow break and his guy is left all alone for his first goal of the year? I understand that he might have had to wait a beat or two to get on the field but it didn't seem like he was in any particular hurry.
DukeSilver410 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 11:12 pmI love this forum.DocBarrister wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 10:39 pmI think what we saw tonight is the difference between a group of men who have volunteered to defend our nation and a bunch of boys who plan to make some serious $$ on Wall Street.old salt wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 10:27 pmThis is still a great historic rivalry. 2 wins in a row for Navy at Homewood -- that last happened in 1965.youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 10:00 pm+1DocBarrister wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 9:53 pmAbsolutely.
Midshipmen showed their character … outworked and outplayed the Blue Jays.
Kind of what you expect for a bunch of guys who will put their lives on the line for our country.
Congrats on a great effort and win.
DocBarrister
This non-conference week seems to work for both programs. Well attended by both fan bases.
Don't let this series end, again.
Don’t get me wrong … the Blue Jays have plenty of time this season to show what kind of men they aspire to be (see the Band of Brothers of 2007).
For now, they can take some lessons from the men who rode to Homewood on three different buses and embarrassed them on their home field.
DocBarrister
I agree with this. Some of this maybe the downside of position-less lacrosse. I love the idea of being position-less and it is a beautiful when run at a high level. I do think the downside is a lack of defined roles. Who is the party starter that will dodge and draw a slide? The attack seems almost lethargic or lacking confidence to test the one on one match-ups. Maryland seems to have this same issue the last 2 seasons.norcalhop wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 10:37 pmTeam needs an alpha dodging option that isn't afraid to go to the track. I thought that would be Angeles, Melendez, or possibly Collison. But none have shown that assertiveness with any effectiveness on a consistent basis. I'd be all for starting Ayers just to experiment.DocBarrister wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 10:33 pmAnd you can’t rely on Degnon to score 5 goals every game.Hoponboard wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 10:22 pm Last season, Melendez (37) and English (6) produced 43 goals. 8 this season and English is out for the year. That’s a lot of offense that has vanished.
The Hopkins O is seriously messed up right now.
The O doesn’t lack talent. They don’t lack athleticism or speed. They don’t lack depth. We know they can score a lot of goals against good teams.
What they do lack is consistency. Seems like someone on the O is always having a bad game. The O also seems to take a quarter off on occasion.
Degnon is masking some serious deficiencies on the O.
DocBarrister