Johns Hopkins 2023

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Re: Johns Hopkins 2023

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nyjay wrote: Mon Jan 30, 2023 3:48 pm Pretty hard to get much over .500, without being very optimistic.

2/4 Jax: W (1-0) (they win by 4 or 5 goals, say 12-8)
2/11 G'Town: L (1-1) (reasonably close, but not really in danger of winning, 15-11 or so)
2/14 UNC: W (2-1) (tight game, win 13-12)
2/18 Loyola: W (3-1) (low scoring game, great atmosphere 9-6)
2/25 Utah: W (4-1) (comfortable win, 16-8, everyone feeling pretty good at this point)
3/4 St. Joe's: L (4-2) (big letdown, 14-12, but a good St. Joe's team)
3/7 UVa: L (4-3) (the inevitable beatdown, 17-10)
3/11 'Cuse: L (4-4) (14-9, Spallina has 6 points, that pains me to type)
3/17 Navy: L (4-5) (10-7, I think Navy wins the Patriot League, wind pretty much fully out of our sails)
3/19 Delaware: W (5-5) (13-10, to avoid a repeat of last year's lost weekend)
3/25 Michigan: W (6-5) (17-9, it is still Michigan after all)
4/1 Rutgers: L (6-6) (16-14, in a shootout)
4/8 Penn State: W (7-6) (tight, low scoring game, 11-9)
4/15 OSU: W (8-6) (a get right game, 13-7)
4/22 UMd: L (8-7) (they keep it tight for a while, but can't hold on, 14-10)

1st Round B1G Tourney (3rd seed v. Michigan): W (9-7) (it's nervous, but they pull it out, 13-11)
2nd Round B1G Tourney (v. Rutgers): L (9-8) (disappointing loss, 12-10)

On the bubble but no bid to NCAA Tourney, finish the season ranked 15th
Love it … you are already predicting a four-game losing streak and a couple of soul-crushing losses. THAT is how predictions should be made. ;)

Bottom line based on the above: Johns Hopkins earns a winning record and Coach PM keeps his job (for now)!!!

To win!

DocBarrister 8-)
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Re: Johns Hopkins 2023

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nyjay wrote: Mon Jan 30, 2023 3:48 pm Pretty hard to get much over .500, without being very optimistic.

2/4 Jax: W (1-0) (they win by 4 or 5 goals, say 12-8)
2/11 G'Town: L (1-1) (reasonably close, but not really in danger of winning, 15-11 or so)
2/14 UNC: W (2-1) (tight game, win 13-12)
2/18 Loyola: W (3-1) (low scoring game, great atmosphere 9-6)
2/25 Utah: W (4-1) (comfortable win, 16-8, everyone feeling pretty good at this point)
3/4 St. Joe's: L (4-2) (big letdown, 14-12, but a good St. Joe's team)
3/7 UVa: L (4-3) (the inevitable beatdown, 17-10)
3/11 'Cuse: L (4-4) (14-9, Spallina has 6 points, that pains me to type)
3/17 Navy: L (4-5) (10-7, I think Navy wins the Patriot League, wind pretty much fully out of our sails)
3/19 Delaware: W (5-5) (13-10, to avoid a repeat of last year's lost weekend)
3/25 Michigan: W (6-5) (17-9, it is still Michigan after all)
4/1 Rutgers: L (6-6) (16-14, in a shootout)
4/8 Penn State: W (7-6) (tight, low scoring game, 11-9)
4/15 OSU: W (8-6) (a get right game, 13-7)
4/22 UMd: L (8-7) (they keep it tight for a while, but can't hold on, 14-10)

1st Round B1G Tourney (3rd seed v. Michigan): W (9-7) (it's nervous, but they pull it out, 13-11)
2nd Round B1G Tourney (v. Rutgers): L (9-8) (disappointing loss, 12-10)

On the bubble but no bid to NCAA Tourney, finish the season ranked 15th
PM 6-2 vs um/psu 1-11 vs rutgers/osu/maryland. Gotta do better against the second one to get back to the ncaas.

Jr midfielders are the thing to me that'll define this season. As I was thinking about the last few years attackmen out of position caught on defense getting worked and not running consistent quarter to quarter offense have stuck out more than anything. Hopefully we'll get some consistency.

Nice respect from IL/JU on homewood and this program. Whatever outsiders think about the sport and its people there's still respect at least publicly for its traditions and past.

https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/ ... ophy/60596
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Enjoy the scheduling luck playing the game in 60 degrees in Jacksonville on Saturday vs. 25 degrees in Baltimore. Who’s going to attend? Sounds like a nice break.
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AreaLax wrote: Mon Jan 30, 2023 5:58 pm Tomorrow morning: Glenn Clark annual college lacrosse preview show with @D1scourse. @Towson_MLAX, @NavyMLax, @LoyolaMLAX, @UMBC_MLax, @TerpsMLax, @jhumenslacrosse coaches will all join us.

We'll start at 9:40am. Come join us at
https://pressboxonline.com/Radio/
Not sure PM gave us anything of interest. The hosts seemed to agree with the general sentiment on the board - the Jays should be a little better, but not sure how much.
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nyjay wrote: Tue Jan 31, 2023 12:06 pm
AreaLax wrote: Mon Jan 30, 2023 5:58 pm Tomorrow morning: Glenn Clark annual college lacrosse preview show with @D1scourse. @Towson_MLAX, @NavyMLax, @LoyolaMLAX, @UMBC_MLax, @TerpsMLax, @jhumenslacrosse coaches will all join us.

We'll start at 9:40am. Come join us at
https://pressboxonline.com/Radio/
Not sure PM gave us anything of interest. The hosts seemed to agree with the general sentiment on the board - the Jays should be a little better, but not sure how much.
He implied they've decided on a goalie for Saturday but wouldn't confirm who. Based on Marcille starting the scrimmage and playing "generally serviceable to good" against Denver starters, I'm not sure how it won't be him. If so, helluva move by the kid. I would have lost that bet. He'll have to be the Marcille of the 2021 B1G semi-final against Rutgers — rather than the one who played a game later vs. Maryland — in order to keep the gig longterm. In his limited action over the last few years, the defense has tended to play pretty well in front of him...hopefully a good sign.

I listened a bit earlier and Charley Toomey had a very interesting comment. He said Loyola practiced in their bubble too much last year and it messed up how goalies saw the ball once they moved outside and played games. File that away under "Bubble Not Necessary, Perhaps Even Damaging." 8-)
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HopFan16 wrote: Tue Jan 31, 2023 12:24 pm He implied they've decided on a goalie for Saturday but wouldn't confirm who. Based on Marcille starting the scrimmage and playing "generally serviceable to good" against Denver starters, I'm not sure how it won't be him. If so, helluva move by the kid. I would have lost that bet. He'll have to be the Marcille of the 2021 B1G semi-final against Rutgers — rather than the one who played a game later vs. Maryland — in order to keep the gig longterm. In his limited action over the last few years, the defense has tended to play pretty well in front of him...hopefully a good sign.
Hope you're right about Marcille. I think he has some real upside, and he's fun to watch. If I recall, he was a pretty big recruit (UA AA, I think). If it works, would also provide continuity into next year.
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nyjay wrote: Tue Jan 31, 2023 12:45 pm
HopFan16 wrote: Tue Jan 31, 2023 12:24 pm He implied they've decided on a goalie for Saturday but wouldn't confirm who. Based on Marcille starting the scrimmage and playing "generally serviceable to good" against Denver starters, I'm not sure how it won't be him. If so, helluva move by the kid. I would have lost that bet. He'll have to be the Marcille of the 2021 B1G semi-final against Rutgers — rather than the one who played a game later vs. Maryland — in order to keep the gig longterm. In his limited action over the last few years, the defense has tended to play pretty well in front of him...hopefully a good sign.
Hope you're right about Marcille. I think he has some real upside, and he's fun to watch. If I recall, he was a pretty big recruit (UA AA, I think). If it works, would also provide continuity into next year.
How do you figure that? Have you heard he is returning next year? I’ve heard Angelus is but that’s about the extent of senior players I’ve heard confirmed
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flalax22 wrote: Tue Jan 31, 2023 1:01 pm How do you figure that? Have you heard he is returning next year? I’ve heard Angelus is but that’s about the extent of senior players I’ve heard confirmed
No knowledge of anything, other than that he has another year of eligibility and figured if he was the starter, he'd probably be back. But that of course could be wrong.
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nyjay wrote: Tue Jan 31, 2023 1:59 pm
flalax22 wrote: Tue Jan 31, 2023 1:01 pm How do you figure that? Have you heard he is returning next year? I’ve heard Angelus is but that’s about the extent of senior players I’ve heard confirmed
No knowledge of anything, other than that he has another year of eligibility and figured if he was the starter, he'd probably be back.
So was Joey Epstein and others
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flalax22 wrote: Tue Jan 31, 2023 2:16 pm
nyjay wrote: Tue Jan 31, 2023 1:59 pm
flalax22 wrote: Tue Jan 31, 2023 1:01 pm How do you figure that? Have you heard he is returning next year? I’ve heard Angelus is but that’s about the extent of senior players I’ve heard confirmed
No knowledge of anything, other than that he has another year of eligibility and figured if he was the starter, he'd probably be back.
So was Joey Epstein and others
Epstein was never the same after his knee injury and had a spot in SAIS. Not sure his situation/ decision should be generalized.
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primitiveskills wrote: Tue Jan 31, 2023 4:00 pm
flalax22 wrote: Tue Jan 31, 2023 2:16 pm
nyjay wrote: Tue Jan 31, 2023 1:59 pm
flalax22 wrote: Tue Jan 31, 2023 1:01 pm How do you figure that? Have you heard he is returning next year? I’ve heard Angelus is but that’s about the extent of senior players I’ve heard confirmed
No knowledge of anything, other than that he has another year of eligibility and figured if he was the starter, he'd probably be back.
So was Joey Epstein and others
Epstein was never the same after his knee injury and had a spot in SAIS. Not sure his situation/ decision should be generalized.
He along with others were starters that had additional years of eligibility that were not offered a spot to come back. All I am saying is I wouldn’t assume Marcille is coming back simply because he has a year of eligibility left
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primitiveskills wrote: Tue Jan 31, 2023 4:00 pm
flalax22 wrote: Tue Jan 31, 2023 2:16 pm
nyjay wrote: Tue Jan 31, 2023 1:59 pm
flalax22 wrote: Tue Jan 31, 2023 1:01 pm How do you figure that? Have you heard he is returning next year? I’ve heard Angelus is but that’s about the extent of senior players I’ve heard confirmed
No knowledge of anything, other than that he has another year of eligibility and figured if he was the starter, he'd probably be back.
So was Joey Epstein and others
Epstein was never the same after his knee injury and had a spot in SAIS. Not sure his situation/ decision should be generalized.
He along with others were starters that had additional years of eligibility that were not offered a spot to come back. All I am saying is I wouldn’t assume Marcille is coming back simply because he has a year of eligibility left
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primitiveskills wrote: Tue Jan 31, 2023 4:00 pm
flalax22 wrote: Tue Jan 31, 2023 2:16 pm
nyjay wrote: Tue Jan 31, 2023 1:59 pm
flalax22 wrote: Tue Jan 31, 2023 1:01 pm How do you figure that? Have you heard he is returning next year? I’ve heard Angelus is but that’s about the extent of senior players I’ve heard confirmed
No knowledge of anything, other than that he has another year of eligibility and figured if he was the starter, he'd probably be back.
So was Joey Epstein and others
Epstein was never the same after his knee injury and had a spot in SAIS. Not sure his situation/ decision should be generalized.
He along with others were starters that had additional years of eligibility that were not offered a spot to come back. All I am saying is I wouldn’t assume Marcille is coming back simply because he has a year of eligibility left
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flalax with the legendary triple post. Rarely see one of those out in the wild

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It was time to move on from that sr group. Epstein will get to study in the new half billion dollar sais/hopkins in dc building. Not a bad to start a promising young career.

Interview/piece was better than the Petro debacles which used to just be lots of bluster, non answers, and a complete waste of time. PM was pretty quick on his response that gbs were the key to the season. There's a lot of factors that go into those beyond ssdms just picking up balls. We'll see in year 3 if the issues that plagued the last regime have been fixed. PM noted he wants Princeton back on the schedule. Stevens kept asking for the goalie situation. None of them are all americans, but at least they're veterans. It's hard to believe Marcille is already a sr.

After the interview Stevens mentioned he'd been approached and asked if he thought in his words "the school had any plans to de emphasize the sport and program" his response was to point to the mammoth clc as evidence he didn't believe that to be the case. Considering no one other than maybe our guy Ed Lee and QK has covered as many Hop games over the last decade+ I thought that was interesting. I'd give it 10 minutes into his first jays broadcast of the season where QK goes off on the lack of administrative support for the program while pointing to the new lacrosse facility at Ohio State and Navy's plans they unveiled this week.

I didn't see a blue jay on the black helmet but my cultural taste buds are fading. I had no idea who any of the music on the january videos they put out was from.
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jhu06 wrote: Tue Jan 31, 2023 8:31 pm After the interview Stevens mentioned he'd been approached and asked if he thought in his words "the school had any plans to de emphasize the sport and program" his response was to point to the mammoth clc as evidence he didn't believe that to be the case. Considering no one other than maybe our guy Ed Lee and QK has covered as many Hop games over the last decade+ I thought that was interesting.
Many echoes of this board in the discussion between the hosts. The going DIII canard, the almost verbatim repeat of 16's expectations for season etc. I was waiting for them to discuss who was going to be warming up the goalie.
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Quint is one of the better analysts out there when it comes to in-game tactics and strategy but sometimes when it comes to the macro stuff it feels like he fixes on a particular talking point or idea and has to come up with a particular reasoning to support it and picks whatever is nearest to his tongue. That's what "Hopkins admin deemphasizes lacrosse" is. He thinks the Big Ten move wasn't good and won't really move off it, so because of this the administration has some deemphasized lacrosse in the form of not chartering for flights or some other very minute thing that probably doesn't have an actual sizable impact on winning on game day
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jrn19 wrote: Tue Jan 31, 2023 10:20 pm Quint is one of the better analysts out there when it comes to in-game tactics and strategy but sometimes when it comes to the macro stuff it feels like he fixes on a particular talking point or idea and has to come up with a particular reasoning to support it and picks whatever is nearest to his tongue. That's what "Hopkins admin deemphasizes lacrosse" is. He thinks the Big Ten move wasn't good and won't really move off it, so because of this the administration has some deemphasized lacrosse in the form of not chartering for flights or some other very minute thing that probably doesn't have an actual sizable impact on winning on game day
my biggest beef is that they've been showing the same heinous overcast shots of alumni memorial residence 1 with those iron gates they had to build because of all the violence against students and maybe gilman for years. It's a gorgeous campus, find some live shots that don't make it look like a november day at a prison.

Stevens covers college sports exhaustively I doubt he has time to read this forum.
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jhu06 wrote: Tue Jan 31, 2023 10:59 pm Stevens covers college sports exhaustively I doubt he has time to read this forum.
Genuine question - if you had to prepare to discuss the outlook for 2023 JHU lacrosse season and couldn't just call up coaches/alums/players and had to rely on a couple of quick google searches for information, where would you go and what would you find? As sad as it may be, there just isn't much content out there. on the topic (IL, US Lacrosse, Quint's new gig). So maybe the fact that he covers college sports exhaustively means that this is the only place to go for a quick primer without actually having to spend the time to talk to a bunch of people? If there's other content out there that I'm not aware of please let me know, but this stupid board is really all we got.
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HopFan16 wrote: Tue Jan 31, 2023 5:34 pm flalax with the legendary triple post. Rarely see one of those out in the wild
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