Njlaxx11 wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 6:47 am
agree to disagree on jacksonville i guess. their inbound class only has 1 rated recruit, a 3 star. obviously IL rankings don't mean a whole lot but it's a point of reference.
j-ville had an impressive record at 14-3 but who was in that schedule matters. a bad loss against a bad hopkins team early in the year - and the ever famous small school beating duke in february. both teams (hop and duke) have proven to be subpar, not making the tourney. the SOCON isn't a good conference and j-ville couldn't win it.
Denver? Beat them too. Last year everyone is like “chemotti” only beat a big school once, then UVA this year. It’s called projecting.
But instead we “know” how good an assistant at Duke or UMD is going to be? Because the Yale assistants are killing it? Because Pat Myers at Laf? It’s all projection even assuming Torpey could do any better at another school. Jax and HPU are about the same as academic institutions-highly leveraged with few gating issues to get “student athletes” in so any issues Galloway would have at more selective, in demand institutions would be the same for Torpey.
denver also is a team that didn't play like they have in years past. not overly impressed with a win against denver.
Njlaxx11 wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 6:47 am
agree to disagree on jacksonville i guess. their inbound class only has 1 rated recruit, a 3 star. obviously IL rankings don't mean a whole lot but it's a point of reference.
j-ville had an impressive record at 14-3 but who was in that schedule matters. a bad loss against a bad hopkins team early in the year - and the ever famous small school beating duke in february. both teams (hop and duke) have proven to be subpar, not making the tourney. the SOCON isn't a good conference and j-ville couldn't win it.
Denver? Beat them too. Last year everyone is like “chemotti” only beat a big school once, then UVA this year. It’s called projecting.
But instead we “know” how good an assistant at Duke or UMD is going to be? Because the Yale assistants are killing it? Because Pat Myers at Laf? It’s all projection even assuming Torpey could do any better at another school. Jax and HPU are about the same as academic institutions-highly leveraged with few gating issues to get “student athletes” in so any issues Galloway would have at more selective, in demand institutions would be the same for Torpey.
denver also is a team that didn't play like they have in years past. not overly impressed with a win against denver.
How do you feel about Kevin Cassesse? See his record since 2014:
7-9
6-9
10-7
9-8
10-2
8-7
Polley
6-8
8-7
12-5
8-9
11-6
6-5
High Point looks the same with a bunch of +/-.500 seasons and a really bad 2017 around a excellent 2019 season.
It’s all about the same (I excluded 20 above because we have no idea how those seasons would’ve ended)
Now I love those cowboys, I love their gold
Love my uncle, God rest his soul
Taught me good, Lord, taught me all I know
Taught me so well, that I grabbed that gold
I left his dead ass there by the side of the road, yeah
Njlaxx11 wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 6:47 am
agree to disagree on jacksonville i guess. their inbound class only has 1 rated recruit, a 3 star. obviously IL rankings don't mean a whole lot but it's a point of reference.
j-ville had an impressive record at 14-3 but who was in that schedule matters. a bad loss against a bad hopkins team early in the year - and the ever famous small school beating duke in february. both teams (hop and duke) have proven to be subpar, not making the tourney. the SOCON isn't a good conference and j-ville couldn't win it.
Denver? Beat them too. Last year everyone is like “chemotti” only beat a big school once, then UVA this year. It’s called projecting.
But instead we “know” how good an assistant at Duke or UMD is going to be? Because the Yale assistants are killing it? Because Pat Myers at Laf? It’s all projection even assuming Torpey could do any better at another school. Jax and HPU are about the same as academic institutions-highly leveraged with few gating issues to get “student athletes” in so any issues Galloway would have at more selective, in demand institutions would be the same for Torpey.
denver also is a team that didn't play like they have in years past. not overly impressed with a win against denver.
How do you feel about Kevin Cassesse? See his record since 2014:
7-9
6-9
10-7
9-8
10-2
8-7
Polley
6-8
8-7
12-5
8-9
11-6
6-5
High Point looks the same with a bunch of +/-.500 seasons and a really bad 2017 around a excellent 2019 season.
It’s all about the same (I excluded 20 above because we have no idea how those seasons would’ve ended)
+1 To me, the question is more, “how does Duke(or Hop or Denver) have a subpar year”?
Especially with the portal and their deep rosters. Personally, I’d take Galloway or Chemotti—and Torrey, too— over Danowski, Cassese, Milligan, Polley, and even Tierney.
Njlaxx11 wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 6:47 am
agree to disagree on jacksonville i guess. their inbound class only has 1 rated recruit, a 3 star. obviously IL rankings don't mean a whole lot but it's a point of reference.
j-ville had an impressive record at 14-3 but who was in that schedule matters. a bad loss against a bad hopkins team early in the year - and the ever famous small school beating duke in february. both teams (hop and duke) have proven to be subpar, not making the tourney. the SOCON isn't a good conference and j-ville couldn't win it.
Denver? Beat them too. Last year everyone is like “chemotti” only beat a big school once, then UVA this year. It’s called projecting.
But instead we “know” how good an assistant at Duke or UMD is going to be? Because the Yale assistants are killing it? Because Pat Myers at Laf? It’s all projection even assuming Torpey could do any better at another school. Jax and HPU are about the same as academic institutions-highly leveraged with few gating issues to get “student athletes” in so any issues Galloway would have at more selective, in demand institutions would be the same for Torpey.
denver also is a team that didn't play like they have in years past. not overly impressed with a win against denver.
How do you feel about Kevin Cassesse? See his record since 2014:
7-9
6-9
10-7
9-8
10-2
8-7
Polley
6-8
8-7
12-5
8-9
11-6
6-5
High Point looks the same with a bunch of +/-.500 seasons and a really bad 2017 around a excellent 2019 season.
It’s all about the same (I excluded 20 above because we have no idea how those seasons would’ve ended)
+1 To me, the question is more, “how does Duke(or Hop or Denver) have a subpar year”?
Especially with the portal and their deep rosters. Personally, I’d take Galloway or Chemotti—and Torpey, too— over Danowski, Cassese, Milliman, Polley, and even Tierney.
FlyEaglesFly wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 6:28 am
Not trying to rain on the John Galloway parade, but I am really confused at all of the hype. He had a very good year this year, one very good year. He hasn’t even come close to accomplishing anything like what Torpey at High Point and Chemotti at Richmond have done. I don’t believe they’ve even been to the NCAA tournament (something both Richmond and High Point have done multiple times).
No, they don’t yet even have players on the level of Asher Nolting
or Ryan Lanchbury.
But they are the latest and greatest up and comer.
Too bad they couldn’t keep the SoCon together,
Richmond, High Point, Jax, Air Force.
getitdone wrote: ↑Thu May 12, 2022 2:04 pm
Are you forgetting about Matt Brown out at Denver-Heir apparent and deservedly so. J'Ville has had a truly great year for them. Let's not annoint them the 2nd coming. Win the conference tourney first maybe? FF next.
I am actually surprised that we have not heard anything out of Homewood speaking of flash in the pans.
When Dino retires, I think it will be very interesting to see if they go for Caputo, his son Matt, or a proven HC with Duke bloodlines. Now that will be interesting.
Best weekend in sports coming up. Enjoy
I think heir apparent candidates for jobs are problematic in general and many administrations are moving in this direction. If a guy leaves, regardless of his contribution over time, he’s gone. Shouldn’t really be allowed to pick a successor.
But yeah I thought of Brown. But it depends on how Tierney leaves.
Keep in mind with Galloway that Providendes best success was when he was assistant there prior to going to Jax.
And Jax’s class next year could easily be better than Denver’s. There’s some talent in there whether folks realize it or not.
Could be re: Jacksonville.
Here is one guy I’ve tracked somewhat, Edge Lacrosse who I’ve been touting as up there with Hill Academy as far as Canadian
talent.
6’2” 200 middie from Ontario,
And Jacksonville has Dom Petro’s running mate from
Boy’s Latin.
Will Hardy out of CNY is going to be a serious player for them as well. They’ve been very generous with financial aid to get kids. Very generous. It’s clearly important to the institution.
Hardy, I don’t know, but I’ll have to look.
I know they got Jackson Intrieri out of Wissahickon (SE PA) this
year, who had a tremendous year,
I’m not sure anyone was really looking at that kid other than he
was Kyle Lehman’s teammate.
Jacob Greiner is another SE PA player who slipped through the
normal SE PA recruiting.
FlyEaglesFly wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 6:28 am
Not trying to rain on the John Galloway parade, but I am really confused at all of the hype. He had a very good year this year, one very good year. He hasn’t even come close to accomplishing anything like what Torpey at High Point and Chemotti at Richmond have done. I don’t believe they’ve even been to the NCAA tournament (something both Richmond and High Point have done multiple times).
No, they don’t yet even have players on the level of Asher Nolting
or Ryan Lanchbury.
But they are the latest and greatest up and comer.
Too bad they couldn’t keep the SoCon together,
Richmond, High Point, Jax, Air Force.
First two appear to be heading to A10 w UMass, FFD, St Joes, Bart, St Bonny. That’s going to be a fun conference like the ECAC or now semi gutted CAA.
Now I love those cowboys, I love their gold
Love my uncle, God rest his soul
Taught me good, Lord, taught me all I know
Taught me so well, that I grabbed that gold
I left his dead ass there by the side of the road, yeah
getitdone wrote: ↑Thu May 12, 2022 2:04 pm
Are you forgetting about Matt Brown out at Denver-Heir apparent and deservedly so. J'Ville has had a truly great year for them. Let's not annoint them the 2nd coming. Win the conference tourney first maybe? FF next.
I am actually surprised that we have not heard anything out of Homewood speaking of flash in the pans.
When Dino retires, I think it will be very interesting to see if they go for Caputo, his son Matt, or a proven HC with Duke bloodlines. Now that will be interesting.
Best weekend in sports coming up. Enjoy
I think heir apparent candidates for jobs are problematic in general and many administrations are moving in this direction. If a guy leaves, regardless of his contribution over time, he’s gone. Shouldn’t really be allowed to pick a successor.
But yeah I thought of Brown. But it depends on how Tierney leaves.
Keep in mind with Galloway that Providendes best success was when he was assistant there prior to going to Jax.
And Jax’s class next year could easily be better than Denver’s. There’s some talent in there whether folks realize it or not.
Could be re: Jacksonville.
Here is one guy I’ve tracked somewhat, Edge Lacrosse who I’ve been touting as up there with Hill Academy as far as Canadian
talent.
6’2” 200 middie from Ontario,
And Jacksonville has Dom Petro’s running mate from
Boy’s Latin.
Will Hardy out of CNY is going to be a serious player for them as well. They’ve been very generous with financial aid to get kids. Very generous. It’s clearly important to the institution.
Hardy, I don’t know, but I’ll have to look.
I know they got Jackson Intrieri out of Wissahickon (SE PA) this
year, who had a tremendous year,
I’m not sure anyone was really looking at that kid other than he
was Kyle Lehman’s teammate.
Jacob Greiner is another SE PA player who slipped through the
normal SE PA recruiting.
Intrieri looked great against Richmond. I believe Richmond and Bart end up competing hard on kids from what I’ve heard (w Richmond winning about 65-70% of those beauty contests at the moment).
Will is related to Dan of Cuse fame. From what I’ve been hearing folks are really down on Section 3 in CNY these days and it’s a baby/bath water situation. Kid is good. Cuse fans on their solo board are wondering why he isn’t going there. Granted they say that, “why didn’t we offer xxx” about every decent kid in CNY not going to Cuse, but this one is legit.
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Now I love those cowboys, I love their gold
Love my uncle, God rest his soul
Taught me good, Lord, taught me all I know
Taught me so well, that I grabbed that gold
I left his dead ass there by the side of the road, yeah
OCanada wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 9:14 am
If you look at VAs recruit list you will find a name with strong Cuse connections. The previous coaches dropped a couple balls
Not to turn this into Cuse bashing but I’ve heard a few times that parents haven’t been thrilled with the teams graduation rate and focus (or lack thereof) on the student side of student athlete. Not the kids mind you but relative weighting of priorities. This came from, among others, former Syracuse star who’s son went elsewhere.
Now I love those cowboys, I love their gold
Love my uncle, God rest his soul
Taught me good, Lord, taught me all I know
Taught me so well, that I grabbed that gold
I left his dead ass there by the side of the road, yeah
What about Gravante at Mount Saint Mary's...he has been there for almost 30 years and they are stuck in perpetual sub mediocre mode. He is a great guy and there is a lot of potential but I think it is time for a change.
calilax wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 9:54 am
What about Gravante at Mount Saint Mary's...he has been there for almost 30 years and they are stuck in perpetual sub mediocre mode. He is a great guy and there is a lot of potential but I think it is time for a change.
He’s a lifer. Coached through his own cancer and has contributed a lot to the institution. They were solid in the MAAC before. Bet it’s the same when they head back next year. (Though I kind of expect
LIU to run that conference the next few years personally)
Now I love those cowboys, I love their gold
Love my uncle, God rest his soul
Taught me good, Lord, taught me all I know
Taught me so well, that I grabbed that gold
I left his dead ass there by the side of the road, yeah
jerseyjames wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 10:58 am
Anyone thinking that Kirwan stepping away from the PLL is a sign for a potential PC HC run?
Is that who Matt Kerwick just replaced in the PLL seat?
Now I love those cowboys, I love their gold
Love my uncle, God rest his soul
Taught me good, Lord, taught me all I know
Taught me so well, that I grabbed that gold
I left his dead ass there by the side of the road, yeah
I totally believe that Chemotti will do exactly what Galloway does. That is, stay put where he is and wait to see what happens with his alma mater's program. In this case, it is Duke.
getitdone wrote: ↑Thu May 12, 2022 2:04 pm
Are you forgetting about Matt Brown out at Denver-Heir apparent and deservedly so. J'Ville has had a truly great year for them. Let's not annoint them the 2nd coming. Win the conference tourney first maybe? FF next.
I am actually surprised that we have not heard anything out of Homewood speaking of flash in the pans.
When Dino retires, I think it will be very interesting to see if they go for Caputo, his son Matt, or a proven HC with Duke bloodlines. Now that will be interesting.
Best weekend in sports coming up. Enjoy
I think heir apparent candidates for jobs are problematic in general and many administrations are moving in this direction. If a guy leaves, regardless of his contribution over time, he’s gone. Shouldn’t really be allowed to pick a successor.
But yeah I thought of Brown. But it depends on how Tierney leaves.
Keep in mind with Galloway that Providendes best success was when he was assistant there prior to going to Jax.
And Jax’s class next year could easily be better than Denver’s. There’s some talent in there whether folks realize it or not.
Could be re: Jacksonville.
Here is one guy I’ve tracked somewhat, Edge Lacrosse who I’ve been touting as up there with Hill Academy as far as Canadian
talent.
6’2” 200 middie from Ontario,
And Jacksonville has Dom Petro’s running mate from
Boy’s Latin.
Will Hardy out of CNY is going to be a serious player for them as well. They’ve been very generous with financial aid to get kids. Very generous. It’s clearly important to the institution.
Hardy, I don’t know, but I’ll have to look.
I know they got Jackson Intrieri out of Wissahickon (SE PA) this
year, who had a tremendous year,
I’m not sure anyone was really looking at that kid other than he
was Kyle Lehman’s teammate.
Jacob Greiner is another SE PA player who slipped through the
normal SE PA recruiting.
Intrieri looked great against Richmond. I believe Richmond and Bart end up competing hard on kids from what I’ve heard (w Richmond winning about 65-70% of those beauty contests at the moment).
Will is related to Dan of Cuse fame. From what I’ve been hearing folks are really down on Section 3 in CNY these days and it’s a baby/bath water situation. Kid is good. Cuse fans on their solo board are wondering why he isn’t going there. Granted they say that, “why didn’t we offer xxx” about every decent kid in CNY not going to Cuse, but this one is legit.
Will is related to Dan(per above) as well as Tommy--both played for SU--his father, Bill, also former SU player. Rumor was SU never even contacted him, hard to believe..
