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Kismet wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 3:32 pm https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/17/kudlow- ... y-law.html

The Trump administration is “looking at” making reforms to the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act.

Apparently IMPOTUS thinks our American companies need more help to bribe officials overseas.

This fish rots from the head.

Or you know, maybe it’s entrapping innocent people. Just a thought.

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 4:38 pm

Kismet wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 3:32 pm https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/17/kudlow- ... y-law.html

The Trump administration is “looking at” making reforms to the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act.

Apparently IMPOTUS thinks our American companies need more help to bribe officials overseas.

This fish rots from the head.

Or you know, maybe it’s entrapping innocent people. Just a thought.

You mean, people like IMPOTUS????????

Kismet wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 4:59 pm

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 4:38 pm

Kismet wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 3:32 pm https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/17/kudlow- ... y-law.html

The Trump administration is “looking at” making reforms to the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act.

Apparently IMPOTUS thinks our American companies need more help to bribe officials overseas.

This fish rots from the head.

Or you know, maybe it’s entrapping innocent people. Just a thought.

You mean, people like IMPOTUS????????

It’s always about Trump. Did he take your lunch money in grade school or something?

Always get a laugh when you guys trash snowflakes for not being able to take it as you demonstrate you can't take any disagreement with your POV.
Must be nice to be right all the time agreeing with yourself.

A couple of months old but worth sharing again.

https://www.businessinsider.com/9-chart ... er-trump-7

Didn’t one of the neverTrump posters here laugh about how the China deal barely moved the market when it was up 10 points? I don’t even recall who it was.

Anyhow, since that individuals prescient call, the market is up another 300 points to an all time high. Another way to monitor fiscal health under any president is to look at the rise in gross wealth simply by the stock market (ignore all other assets). What is Trump up to now? $10 Trillion?

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:44 pm Didn’t one of the neverTrump posters here laugh about how the China deal barely moved the market when it was up 10 points? I don’t even recall who it was.

Anyhow, since that individuals prescient call, the market is up another 300 points to an all time high. Another way to monitor fiscal health under any president is to look at the rise in gross wealth simply by the stock market (ignore all other assets). What is Trump up to now? $10 Trillion?

Which market? The Dow was up 50 points on 1/17 at close. Nasdaq up 31 points, S&P up 12 points.

Ignoring that the China deal is already old news as far as the markets are concerned, let's go with your excellent analysis about the stock market being a great way to monitor fiscal health under a president. The markets performed a lot better under Obama, who also saw lots of all time highs under his administration. So by your definition Obama is obviously a much better president.

https://fortune.com/2019/11/01/trump-ob ... q-economy/

holmes435 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 18, 2020 12:48 am

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:44 pm Didn’t one of the neverTrump posters here laugh about how the China deal barely moved the market when it was up 10 points? I don’t even recall who it was.

Anyhow, since that individuals prescient call, the market is up another 300 points to an all time high. Another way to monitor fiscal health under any president is to look at the rise in gross wealth simply by the stock market (ignore all other assets). What is Trump up to now? $10 Trillion?

Which market? The Dow was up 50 points on 1/17 at close. Nasdaq up 31 points, S&P up 12 points.

Ignoring that the China deal is already old news as far as the markets are concerned, let's go with your excellent analysis about the stock market being a great way to monitor fiscal health under a president. The markets performed a lot better under Obama, who also saw lots of all time highs under his administration. So by your definition Obama is obviously a much better president.

https://fortune.com/2019/11/01/trump-ob ... q-economy/

I loved Obama. Also, I think GW Bush was with Carter the worst POTUS ever.

Anyhow, I like to look at total US Household net worth. In this regard, Trump is coming up aces.

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 4:38 pm

Kismet wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 3:32 pm https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/17/kudlow- ... y-law.html

The Trump administration is “looking at” making reforms to the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act.

Apparently IMPOTUS thinks our American companies need more help to bribe officials overseas.

This fish rots from the head.

Or you know, maybe it’s entrapping innocent people. Just a thought.

Not sure 'bout that Peter, while reviews of the law are mixed, I've read that many corporate CEO's like the law.

Some background from the President's alma mater
https://publicpolicy.wharton.upenn.edu/ ... s-act-work

ToastDunk wrote: ↑Sat Jan 18, 2020 8:50 am

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 4:38 pm

Kismet wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 3:32 pm https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/17/kudlow- ... y-law.html

The Trump administration is “looking at” making reforms to the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act.

Apparently IMPOTUS thinks our American companies need more help to bribe officials overseas.

This fish rots from the head.

Or you know, maybe it’s entrapping innocent people. Just a thought.

Not sure 'bout that Peter, while reviews of the law are mixed, I've read that many corporate CEO's like the law.

Some background from the President's alma mater
https://publicpolicy.wharton.upenn.edu/ ... s-act-work

It is plainly obvious DOPUS didn't learn anything at Wharton either. What a surprise.

I'd sure like to know how many of his Mar-el-lago pals are getting insider information and making a killing in the stock market and commodity exchanges.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/10 ... aos-trades

Kismet wrote: ↑Sat Jan 18, 2020 8:56 am

ToastDunk wrote: ↑Sat Jan 18, 2020 8:50 am

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 4:38 pm

Kismet wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 3:32 pm https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/17/kudlow- ... y-law.html

The Trump administration is “looking at” making reforms to the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act.

Apparently IMPOTUS thinks our American companies need more help to bribe officials overseas.

This fish rots from the head.

Or you know, maybe it’s entrapping innocent people. Just a thought.

Not sure 'bout that Peter, while reviews of the law are mixed, I've read that many corporate CEO's like the law.

Some background from the President's alma mater
https://publicpolicy.wharton.upenn.edu/ ... s-act-work

It is plainly obvious DOPUS didn't learn anything at Wharton either. What a surprise.

I'd sure like to know how many of his Mar-el-lago pals are getting insider information and making a killing in the stock market and commodity exchanges.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/10 ... aos-trades

When you are only there for 4 semesters, a lot doesn't sink in.

ToastDunk wrote: ↑Sat Jan 18, 2020 8:50 am

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 4:38 pm

Kismet wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 3:32 pm https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/17/kudlow- ... y-law.html

The Trump administration is “looking at” making reforms to the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act.

Apparently IMPOTUS thinks our American companies need more help to bribe officials overseas.

This fish rots from the head.

Or you know, maybe it’s entrapping innocent people. Just a thought.

Not sure 'bout that Peter, while reviews of the law are mixed, I've read that many corporate CEO's like the law.

Some background from the President's alma mater
https://publicpolicy.wharton.upenn.edu/ ... s-act-work

Reasonable people can disagree about this law. I find it to be vague and an overreach.

I’d point out that much of what the law purports to stop is precisely what occurred with The Clinton Foundation. People should stand up and see how Bill and Hillary skirted bribery charges simply by setting up a bs foundation. Making it sweeter? Tax free! Unreal.

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Sat Jan 18, 2020 9:03 am

ToastDunk wrote: ↑Sat Jan 18, 2020 8:50 am

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 4:38 pm

Kismet wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 3:32 pm https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/17/kudlow- ... y-law.html

The Trump administration is “looking at” making reforms to the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act.

Apparently IMPOTUS thinks our American companies need more help to bribe officials overseas.

This fish rots from the head.

Or you know, maybe it’s entrapping innocent people. Just a thought.

Not sure 'bout that Peter, while reviews of the law are mixed, I've read that many corporate CEO's like the law.

Some background from the President's alma mater
https://publicpolicy.wharton.upenn.edu/ ... s-act-work

Reasonable people can disagree about this law. I find it to be vague and an overreach.

I’d point out that much of what the law purports to stop is precisely what occurred with The Clinton Foundation. People should stand up and see how Bill and Hillary skirted bribery charges simply by setting up a bs foundation. Making it sweeter? Tax free! Unreal.

Not unlike the Abbott and Costello "Who's On First" routine where everything lead back to first base, apparently for you, all criticism of Trump leads back to the Clinton Foundation. You must see how all this Clinton talk comes off as nothing more then a diversion from the mess surrounding the current President.

ToastDunk wrote: ↑Sat Jan 18, 2020 9:44 am

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Sat Jan 18, 2020 9:03 am

ToastDunk wrote: ↑Sat Jan 18, 2020 8:50 am

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 4:38 pm

Kismet wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 3:32 pm https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/17/kudlow- ... y-law.html

The Trump administration is “looking at” making reforms to the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act.

Apparently IMPOTUS thinks our American companies need more help to bribe officials overseas.

This fish rots from the head.

Or you know, maybe it’s entrapping innocent people. Just a thought.

Not sure 'bout that Peter, while reviews of the law are mixed, I've read that many corporate CEO's like the law.

Some background from the President's alma mater
https://publicpolicy.wharton.upenn.edu/ ... s-act-work

Reasonable people can disagree about this law. I find it to be vague and an overreach.

I’d point out that much of what the law purports to stop is precisely what occurred with The Clinton Foundation. People should stand up and see how Bill and Hillary skirted bribery charges simply by setting up a bs foundation. Making it sweeter? Tax free! Unreal.

Not unlike the Abbott and Costello "Who's On First" routine where everything lead back to first base, apparently for you, all criticism of Trump leads back to the Clinton Foundation. You must see how all this Clinton talk comes off as nothing more then a diversion from the mess surrounding the current President.

But the difference (and it’s crucial) is I expected Bill and Hillary to go that path. I’m not animated by it. It happened. Move along. I don’t care.

I bring them up merely to show that what Trump has done pales in comparison to the Clinton Foundation. Trump isn’t bright enough to hire good lawyers who know how to set the stuff up legally.

Interesting story....certainly not one many on here will take seriously, yet. This kind of story has ripple effects in the asian market. When you read the story, they seem to want to paint a picture of empathy for the sweatshop 3/day workers.

Moving Kanye West's Adidas Yeezys HQ to Wyoming could save him $15M in taxes as he vows to bring jobs back to US, but could spell disaster for $3-a-day 'sweatshop workers' in Asia, charity group warns

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Sat Jan 18, 2020 10:03 am
I bring them up merely to show that what Trump has done pales in comparison to the Clinton Foundation. Trump isn’t bright enough to hire good lawyers who know how to set the stuff up legally.

Talk about doubling down....

foreverlax wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 9:16 am

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Sat Jan 18, 2020 10:03 am
I bring them up merely to show that what Trump has done pales in comparison to the Clinton Foundation. Trump isn’t bright enough to hire good lawyers who know how to set the stuff up legally.

Talk about doubling down....

Gives you a sense that PB HASN't moved along, and that he DOES care. Quite the opposite of what he's stated.

ToastDunk wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 9:45 am

foreverlax wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 9:16 am

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Sat Jan 18, 2020 10:03 am
I bring them up merely to show that what Trump has done pales in comparison to the Clinton Foundation. Trump isn’t bright enough to hire good lawyers who know how to set the stuff up legally.

Talk about doubling down....

Gives you a sense that PB HASN't moved along, and that he DOES care. Quite the opposite of what he's stated.

100% Red Team trolling, not actual caring.

He can't cite any illegal act by the Clinton Foundation (claims that's because Clinton lawyers are smarter than Trump lawyers), and claims he doesn't know what good the Clinton Foundation has done (can't bother to use google or to follow the links posted). Doesn't care.

PB has now repeatedly revealed that he doesn't actually wish to engage in a fact-oriented discussion...just wants to troll.

PB, here's an olive branch...please engage with fellow posters by actually responding to their discussion points. Fine to disagree, of course, that's the point of the discussions on here, but acknowledge the merits of the other's argument when you can, and deal with the facts they present, suggest counter interpretations and why, etc. Present facts and data you believe support your views, be prepared to defend the logic and analysis of those positions when addressed.

We can (and do) have rational, logical, even productive discussions on here where we actually learn from one another. But it requires participation in that spirit.

Most of your fellow posters do so. It would be appreciated if you would do so as well.

In your quest to keep the convos to your liking, your self serious replies (with the usual accompaniment that ‘you’re ignorant’ or ‘only neverTrump offers facts’) are self defeating. Not to the echo chamber, but to the normal people in the country. I don’t take these debates too seriously, nor do I care about the gratuitous personal insults, because I’m always far more curious about the why’s of life. Such as, why is neverTrump so quick with self importance? That intrigues me far more than Trump, Clinton, or foundations.

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:52 am In your quest to keep the convos to your liking, your self serious replies (with the usual accompaniment that ‘you’re ignorant’ or ‘only neverTrump offers facts’) are self defeating. Not to the echo chamber, but to the normal people in the country. I don’t take these debates too seriously, nor do I care about the gratuitous personal insults, because I’m always far more curious about the why’s of life. Such as, why is neverTrump so quick with self importance? That intrigues me far more than Trump, Clinton, or foundations.

In what manner?