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Re: Transfer Portal 2022

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 11:41 pm
by harflax
Currently leading the poaching effort of 2022 verbally committed players is Lars. He was contacting players two weeks ago trying to get them to flip.

Re: Transfer Portal 2022

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:06 am
by FlyEaglesFly
Ok so what if Lars doesn’t add the grad transfer Charlie Bertrand? Let’s not count his 2 goals in the semis and they lose to UNC 11-10.

The transfer game is what it is these days.

Re: Transfer Portal 2022

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 8:14 am
by blue angels
I guess I am confused……I think I am seeing 2 Separate issues, conflated into 1 here as regards poaching……….there is the Transfer Portal market of existing college D1 players and then there are some complaints about high school commitments changing their minds because they continue to be recruited after committing. Recruiting must be done till the final bell…. Maybe, some kids make an initial commitment and they blow up and have better choices available or they decide they just don’t like their initial choice as much as the new one. I see nothing wrong with that…. Kids need to go where they are happiest. I also am in favor of kids having the right to change their minds if the fit isn’t right at a particular school or to get into a specific graduate program. Recruits should beware of programs that routinely bring in whole groups of new players. Everyone knows who they are and that should have a “Buyer Beware tag”………………

Re: Transfer Portal 2022

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 8:21 am
by blue angels
FlyEaglesFly wrote: Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:06 am Ok so what if Lars doesn’t add the grad transfer Charlie Bertrand? Let’s not count his 2 goals in the semis and they lose to UNC 11-10.

The transfer game is what it is these days.
Bad example…..Bertrand graduated with a degree in mechanical engineering from Merrimack and was admitted to Virginia’s very competitive Commerce school for a Graduate program. He was doing that program there or somewhere else with or without lacrosse. Talk about a student athlete………some of these kids are just marking time with the extra year, taking classes only to stay eligible, because it’s only about lacrosse. He isn’t one of those.

Re: Transfer Portal 2022

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 8:24 am
by Typical Lax Dad
blue angels wrote: Wed Jun 02, 2021 8:21 am
FlyEaglesFly wrote: Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:06 am Ok so what if Lars doesn’t add the grad transfer Charlie Bertrand? Let’s not count his 2 goals in the semis and they lose to UNC 11-10.

The transfer game is what it is these days.
Bad example…..Bertrand graduated with a degree in mechanical engineering from Merrimack and was admitted to Virginia’s very competitive Commerce school for a Graduate program. He was doing that program there or somewhere else with or without lacrosse. Talk about a student athlete………some of these kids are just marking time taking classes because it’s only about lacrosse. He isn’t one of those.
The guys that went to Duke and ND were all graduate students and many had no other option of playing other than transferring. Lars gave Bertrand the Kology speech? Those Penn, Yale and Princeton guys weren’t “real students” like Charlie.

Re: Transfer Portal 2022

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 8:31 am
by wgdsr
harflax wrote: Tue Jun 01, 2021 11:41 pm Currently leading the poaching effort of 2022 verbally committed players is Lars. He was contacting players two weeks ago trying to get them to flip.
any word on inroads after this weekend?

Re: Transfer Portal 2022

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 8:37 am
by Typical Lax Dad
wgdsr wrote: Wed Jun 02, 2021 8:31 am
harflax wrote: Tue Jun 01, 2021 11:41 pm Currently leading the poaching effort of 2022 verbally committed players is Lars. He was contacting players two weeks ago trying to get them to flip.
any word on inroads after this weekend?
I heard at least two flipped later Monday afternoon. Wanted to see the results of the game first.

Re: Transfer Portal 2022

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 8:45 am
by youthathletics
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Jun 02, 2021 8:37 am
wgdsr wrote: Wed Jun 02, 2021 8:31 am
harflax wrote: Tue Jun 01, 2021 11:41 pm Currently leading the poaching effort of 2022 verbally committed players is Lars. He was contacting players two weeks ago trying to get them to flip.
any word on inroads after this weekend?
I heard at least two flipped later Monday afternoon. Wanted to see the results of the game first.
He's still working through those 500+ text messages. :lol:

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Re: Transfer Portal 2022

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 8:45 am
by wgdsr
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Jun 02, 2021 8:37 am
wgdsr wrote: Wed Jun 02, 2021 8:31 am
harflax wrote: Tue Jun 01, 2021 11:41 pm Currently leading the poaching effort of 2022 verbally committed players is Lars. He was contacting players two weeks ago trying to get them to flip.
any word on inroads after this weekend?
I heard at least two flipped later Monday afternoon. Wanted to see the results of the game first.
nice. some decent attrition graduating in 22 and 23.

Re: Transfer Portal 2022

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 8:46 am
by Typical Lax Dad
wgdsr wrote: Wed Jun 02, 2021 8:45 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Jun 02, 2021 8:37 am
wgdsr wrote: Wed Jun 02, 2021 8:31 am
harflax wrote: Tue Jun 01, 2021 11:41 pm Currently leading the poaching effort of 2022 verbally committed players is Lars. He was contacting players two weeks ago trying to get them to flip.
any word on inroads after this weekend?
I heard at least two flipped later Monday afternoon. Wanted to see the results of the game first.
nice. some decent attrition graduating in 22 and 23.
My guess is 4 or 5 more will flip this week. Plenty of room....

Re: Transfer Portal 2022

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:10 am
by dek
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Jun 02, 2021 8:24 am
blue angels wrote: Wed Jun 02, 2021 8:21 am
FlyEaglesFly wrote: Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:06 am Ok so what if Lars doesn’t add the grad transfer Charlie Bertrand? Let’s not count his 2 goals in the semis and they lose to UNC 11-10.

The transfer game is what it is these days.
Bad example…..Bertrand graduated with a degree in mechanical engineering from Merrimack and was admitted to Virginia’s very competitive Commerce school for a Graduate program. He was doing that program there or somewhere else with or without lacrosse. Talk about a student athlete………some of these kids are just marking time taking classes because it’s only about lacrosse. He isn’t one of those.
The guys that went to Duke and ND were all graduate students and many had no other option of playing other than transferring. Lars gave Bertrand the Kology speech? Those Penn, Yale and Princeton guys weren’t “real students” like Charlie.
One transfer isn’t out of the ordinary for the Hoos. Some teams looked like they worked the transfer game much harder than others. Did it pay off for those teams in the end? Likely yes in some ways, likely no in others, but in the end, not enough to bring home the championship. No disrespect to Bertrand or any of the others making their grad school and athletic choices in very uncertain tImes.

Re: Transfer Portal 2022

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:17 am
by Typical Lax Dad
dek wrote: Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:10 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Jun 02, 2021 8:24 am
blue angels wrote: Wed Jun 02, 2021 8:21 am
FlyEaglesFly wrote: Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:06 am Ok so what if Lars doesn’t add the grad transfer Charlie Bertrand? Let’s not count his 2 goals in the semis and they lose to UNC 11-10.

The transfer game is what it is these days.
Bad example…..Bertrand graduated with a degree in mechanical engineering from Merrimack and was admitted to Virginia’s very competitive Commerce school for a Graduate program. He was doing that program there or somewhere else with or without lacrosse. Talk about a student athlete………some of these kids are just marking time taking classes because it’s only about lacrosse. He isn’t one of those.
The guys that went to Duke and ND were all graduate students and many had no other option of playing other than transferring. Lars gave Bertrand the Kology speech? Those Penn, Yale and Princeton guys weren’t “real students” like Charlie.
One transfer isn’t out of the ordinary for the Hoos. Some teams looked like they worked the transfer game much harder than others. Did it pay off for those teams in the end? Likely yes in some ways, likely no in others, but in the end, not enough to bring home the championship. No disrespect to Bertrand or any of the others making their grad school and athletic choices in very uncertain tImes.
Yep. This was an odd year. I don’t expect to see as many “big name” transfers this year.

Re: Transfer Portal 2022

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:18 am
by AreaLax
Transfers @ 06-02-2021

Air Force - Sean Curcio (midfield)*** -> Drexel
Albany - Davis Diamond (attack) -> Lynn (D2), Kyle Casey (attack)**
Binghamton - Tom Galgano (defense)**
Bucknell - Matt Fedorjaka (midfield) - > Notre Dame
Canisius - Otto Bergmann (goalie)
Colgate - Mike Hawkins, A/M -> Notre Dame
Cornell - Jonathan Donville (midfield)**
Dartmouth - Peter Rizzotti (LSM), Danny Hincks (goalie)*
Detroit Mercy: Logan Shamblin (G)**
Drexel - Kyle DeCrispino (attack) -> Mount Saint Mary, Aidan Coll(offense)**
Harvard - Austin Madronic (attack)*
Hobart: Drew Blanchard (FO)**
Hofstra - Ben Stewart (midfield) -> Wagner
Hopkins - Owen Murphy, Brett Baskin (A/M)**, Luke Shilling (A)**
Lehigh - Matt Douglas (LSM/D) —>Norte Dame
Marist - Jake Weinman (attack)**
Michigan - Kevin Mack (attack)**, Alex Bucknavage (midfield)**
Monmouth: Chris Hervada (D)**
North Carolina - Will Bowen (defense)** -> Georgetown, Caton Johnson (goalie)-> OSU, Luke Millican (goalie)**
Notre Dame: Michael Drake (A/M)**, Matt Schmidt (goalie); Connor Morin (attack)**
Ohio State - Gerard Kane (attack) -> Hofstra, Drew Elder (FO) -> DII Tampa
Penn - Mitch Bartolo (A/M)**,Sean Lulley (attack)**
Providence - Toby Burgdorf (goalie)**
Richmond - Jax Popovich (FO) -> Boston U, Jason Reynolds (defense)—>Norte Dame, Tate Gallagher (M)**
Sacred Heart: Logan Liljeberg (A)**—>UMass
St. John’s - Dylan Willis (midfield)
Stony Brook:Daniel Cassidy (D)**
Towson - Casey Wasserman (midfield)->Utah
UMass - Luke Blanc (attack)
Villanova - Keegan Khan (attack)**, Owen PrybylskI (defense)**, Dan Fisher (FO)!, Stevie Peters (midfield)!, Brendan Haggerty (goalie)!
Virginia - Will Rock (LSM)**, Regan Quinn (midfield)**, Russell Maher (attack/midfield)
VMI - Jon Fant (attack) -> St Joseph’s
Yale - Nick Caccamo (defense) -> Syracuse

Division 2/3
Amherst (D3) - Gib Versfeld (goalie) -> Hopkins

Lynchburg (D3) - Tyler Gallagher (defense) ->OSU
Salisbury (D3) - Brad Apgar (defense)
SUNY (D3) - Matt DeMeo (midfield) -> Stony Brook
Wesleyan (D3) - Ronan Jacoby** (attack) -> Rutgers

* in the portal for the future 2023
** grad transfer
*** transfer from Air Force Prep
! For future 2022
BOLD most recent addition
—————————————

Also,
last complete prior season transfer listing,

viewtopic.php?p=186499#p186499

Source
His IG page

Re: Transfer Portal 2022

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:56 am
by 10stone5
Liljeberg is a good pickup for UMass, the right fit for
Cannella’s style.
A slight tell.
Taking a grad transfer, looks like Cannella is putting the
big push on with UMass next season, that he may believe
UMass missed a big opportunity this past season.

Re: Transfer Portal 2022

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 1:13 pm
by Henpecked
10stone5 wrote: Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:56 am Liljeberg is a good pickup for UMass, the right fit for
Cannella’s style.
A slight tell.
Taking a grad transfer, looks like Cannella is putting the
big push on with UMass next season, that he may believe
UMass missed a big opportunity this past season.
I thought Cannella might have taken a shot at Owen Murphy from Hopkins. Maybe he still will. I think he's from Massachusetts.

They should be pretty good next year. They lose Trainor, Subboch, Devin Spencer and Billy Philpott but they get back Connelly who missed this season with an injury. I would imagine that Tobin and Eisenstadt will stay for a fifth year too.

Will be interesting to see who returns to the CAA. Seeing Aidan Coll in the portal surprised me a bit.

Re: Transfer Portal 2022

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:05 pm
by AreaLax
Transfers @ 06-02-2021

Air Force - Sean Curcio (midfield)*** -> Drexel
Albany - Davis Diamond (attack) -> Lynn (D2), Kyle Casey (attack)**
Binghamton - Tom Galgano (defense)**
Bucknell - Matt Fedorjaka (midfield) - > Notre Dame
Canisius - Otto Bergmann (goalie)
Colgate - Mike Hawkins, A/M -> Notre Dame
Cornell - Jonathan Donville (midfield)**
Dartmouth - Peter Rizzotti (LSM), Danny Hincks (goalie)*
Detroit Mercy: Logan Shamblin (G)**
Drexel - Kyle DeCrispino (attack) -> Mount Saint Mary, Aidan Coll(offense)**
Harvard - Austin Madronic (attack)*
Hobart: Drew Blanchard (FO)**
Hofstra - Ben Stewart (midfield) -> Wagner
Hopkins - Owen Murphy, Brett Baskin (A/M)**, Luke Shilling (A)**
Lehigh - Matt Douglas (LSM/D) —>Norte Dame
Marist - Jake Weinman (attack)**
Michigan - Kevin Mack (attack)**, Alex Bucknavage (midfield)**
Monmouth: Chris Hervada (D)**
North Carolina - Will Bowen (defense)** -> Georgetown, Caton Johnson (goalie)-> OSU, Luke Millican (goalie)**
Notre Dame: Michael Drake (A/M)**, Matt Schmidt (goalie); Connor Morin (attack)**
Ohio State - Gerard Kane (attack) -> Hofstra, Drew Elder (FO) -> DII Tampa
Penn - Mitch Bartolo (A/M)**,Sean Lulley (attack)**
Providence - Toby Burgdorf (goalie)**
Richmond - Jax Popovich (FO) -> Boston U, Jason Reynolds (defense)—>Norte Dame, Tate Gallagher (M)**
Sacred Heart: Logan Liljeberg (A)**—>UMass
St. John’s - Dylan Willis (midfield)
Stony Brook:Daniel Cassidy (D)**
Towson - Casey Wasserman (midfield)->Utah
UMass - Luke Blanc (attack)->Marquette
Villanova - Keegan Khan (attack)**, Owen PrybylskI (defense)**, Dan Fisher (FO)!, Stevie Peters (midfield)!, Brendan Haggerty (goalie)!
Virginia - Will Rock (LSM)**, Regan Quinn (midfield)**, Russell Maher (attack/midfield)
VMI - Jon Fant (attack) -> St Joseph’s
Yale - Nick Caccamo (defense) -> Syracuse

Division 2/3
Amherst (D3) - Gib Versfeld (goalie) -> Hopkins

Lynchburg (D3) - Tyler Gallagher (defense) ->OSU
Salisbury (D3) - Brad Apgar (defense)
SUNY (D3) - Matt DeMeo (midfield) -> Stony Brook
Wesleyan (D3) - Ronan Jacoby** (attack) -> Rutgers

* in the portal for the future 2023
** grad transfer
*** transfer from Air Force Prep
! For future 2022
BOLD most recent addition
—————————————

Also,
last complete prior season transfer listing,

viewtopic.php?p=186499#p186499

Re: Transfer Portal 2022

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:26 pm
by harflax
wgdsr wrote: Wed Jun 02, 2021 8:31 am
harflax wrote: Tue Jun 01, 2021 11:41 pm Currently leading the poaching effort of 2022 verbally committed players is Lars. He was contacting players two weeks ago trying to get them to flip.
any word on inroads after this weekend?

The coach I spoke to was not happy at all. If you are a mid-major coach and work your ass off to find and recruit a kid only to have an ACC school scoop them up late is a tough pill to swallow. It is part of current landscape in mens lacrosse but still a tough deal for mid-major coaches.

Re: Transfer Portal 2022

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:52 pm
by blue angels
harflax wrote: Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:26 pm
wgdsr wrote: Wed Jun 02, 2021 8:31 am
harflax wrote: Tue Jun 01, 2021 11:41 pm Currently leading the poaching effort of 2022 verbally committed players is Lars. He was contacting players two weeks ago trying to get them to flip.
any word on inroads after this weekend?

The coach I spoke to was not happy at all. If you are a mid-major coach and work your ass off to find and recruit a kid only to have an ACC school scoop them up late is a tough pill to swallow. It is part of current landscape in mens lacrosse but still a tough deal for mid-major coaches.
If a high school player, that’s fair game till they are signed. It’s that way in football, basketball, etc. Naso at Duke did it to Virginia so goes both ways. You recruit till you get them signed and delivered. Contacting a player enrolled would be something else.

Re: Transfer Portal 2022

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 10:59 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
blue angels wrote: Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:52 pm
harflax wrote: Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:26 pm
wgdsr wrote: Wed Jun 02, 2021 8:31 am
harflax wrote: Tue Jun 01, 2021 11:41 pm Currently leading the poaching effort of 2022 verbally committed players is Lars. He was contacting players two weeks ago trying to get them to flip.
any word on inroads after this weekend?

The coach I spoke to was not happy at all. If you are a mid-major coach and work your ass off to find and recruit a kid only to have an ACC school scoop them up late is a tough pill to swallow. It is part of current landscape in mens lacrosse but still a tough deal for mid-major coaches.
If a high school player, that’s fair game till they are signed. It’s that way in football, basketball, etc. Naso at Duke did it to Virginia so goes both ways. You recruit till you get them signed and delivered. Contacting a player enrolled would be something else.
Thats right! You speak from experience.

Re: Transfer Portal 2022

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 11:26 pm
by wgdsr
harflax wrote: Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:26 pm
wgdsr wrote: Wed Jun 02, 2021 8:31 am
harflax wrote: Tue Jun 01, 2021 11:41 pm Currently leading the poaching effort of 2022 verbally committed players is Lars. He was contacting players two weeks ago trying to get them to flip.
any word on inroads after this weekend?

The coach I spoke to was not happy at all. If you are a mid-major coach and work your ass off to find and recruit a kid only to have an ACC school scoop them up late is a tough pill to swallow. It is part of current landscape in mens lacrosse but still a tough deal for mid-major coaches.
yeah. it sucks.

so question... if you were a kid and had a chance to go to school x, would you want to hear from them to weigh your options?