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Get out of here with that MAGA stooge bullshirt Cranky. Biden has accomplished a TON of beneficial legislation in his first term and the way all you MagaT's get yer panties in a twist over "The Border" is a sad, laughable joke. You guys don't have two coherent thoughts in your skulls when it comes to the border issue...and tanking the bipartisan compromise bill on immigration proves, once again, that MagaT's just want the political issue for their knuckledragging leader.

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dislaxxic wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 8:17 am Get out of here with that MAGA stooge bullshirt Cranky. Biden has accomplished a TON of beneficial legislation in his first term and the way all you MagaT's get yer panties in a twist over "The Border" is a sad, laughable joke. You guys don't have two coherent thoughts in your skulls when it comes to the border issue...and tanking the bipartisan compromise bill on immigration proves, once again, that MagaT's just want the political issue for their knuckledragging leader.

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Take it to Kelsey's old sod. Those rose color glasses are so dark you can't see in front of your own face. Explain DFJs successful policy at the southern border. You can't possibly be this dense. DFJ ignored his foul up until things became so bad paired up with his re election that even a half assed solution looked like a good idea. DFJ even had the brass balls to blame his eff up at the southern border on the Republicans. Gullible chumps in YOUR party fell for it hook line and sinker. BTW the garden looks awesome this year. Cranky can grow some tomatoes there jaundice boy. :D
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Love me some Heather Cox Richardson. So that’s what it is - the Gish Gallop:

https://heathercoxrichardson.substack.c ... ne-27-2024
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SCLaxAttack wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 8:37 am Love me some Heather Cox Richardson. So that’s what it is - the Gish Gallop:

https://heathercoxrichardson.substack.c ... ne-27-2024
FTR if trump actually told the truth would anybody notice? The media pundits have all been clamoring that all trump did was lie. All my time on this earth politicians have been lying to America . :roll:
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OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 4:31 am He has common sense enough to close the border and make folks who want to come into this country go through the process like everyone else has had to.
Nope. Do you know what percentage of illegal workers we have in the US who came over the border legally, and simply stayed here.

No. You don't. Instead, you got snowed by Trump. How many illegal workers did Trump employ at Mar a Lago before the press called them in? Do you know? Do you care?

He ran on fixing our immigration and VISA system. He failed. None of you care. And that's fine, but don't pretend like he got stuff done.
OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 4:31 am He has common sense enough to mine our own natural resources instead of having to rely on other nations.
Steak dinner says you can't tell me what percentage of mining takes place on Federal lands. (hint: it's an insignificant amount). Federal land is all the Exec branch controls, my man. You're buying the BS.
OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 4:31 am I was very happy with most of what he did while he was in the Oval. Israel was very happy with Trump in the White House. I specifically remember Netanyahu turning to Trump during a visit to the States and saying something along the lines of, "Israel has never had a friend like you. Not even close". Five Arab nations made peace with Israel due to Trump. Jerusalem was acknowledged as the capital of Israel and the American embassy moved there, putting action behind his words. He kept his thumb on Iran and the terrorists during his tenure. Just a couple things I liked about what he did while in office. I hope he gets in again so he can get back to standing strong for the United States and strong for Israel
This is actually one of the first times I've seen a Trump fan list a few things Trump did correctly, outside of ignoring that we were hit by domestic terrorists under Trump.
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dislaxxic wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 7:29 am
OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 4:31 amTrump is the clear choice for me over Biden. As Gunnery Sergeant Hartman once said, "He's got guts, and guts is enough." He puts America first. He has the courage of his convictions and isn't cowed by the radical left. He has common sense enough to close the border and make folks who want to come into this country go through the process like everyone else has had to. Like my grandparents on both my father and mothers side had to at the turn of last century. He has common sense enough to mine our own natural resources instead of having to rely on other nations. Common sense enough to make other nations pay their fair share. He has the courage of his convictions to stand up to Iran, North Korea, China, Russia, ISIS, Hamas, Hezbollah, et al. I was very happy with most of what he did while he was in the Oval. Israel was very happy with Trump in the White House. I specifically remember Netanyahu turning to Trump during a visit to the States and saying something along the lines of, "Israel has never had a friend like you. Not even close". Five Arab nations made peace with Israel due to Trump. Jerusalem was acknowledged as the capital of Israel and the American embassy moved there, putting action behind his words. He kept his thumb on Iran and the terrorists during his tenure. Just a couple things I liked about what he did while in office. I hope he gets in again so he can get back to standing strong for the United States and strong for Israel.
Wow. "stand up" to Russia? You mean as far as building a Trump Tower Moscow? ...or giving Ukraine to Vlad...THAT "stand up"? ...or how he stood up to NK in one of those "love letters"? How'd you like how he stood up for "America First" with respect to the COVID pandemic? Did you shine lights up yer piehole or drink bleach? There's some common sense for ya. Remember early on when he wouldn't let that cruise ship dock on the west coast of Florida because, at the time, the infected passengers getting off the virus-laced ship would "make the numbers look bad"? That's some America First behavior for you.

Assume you're just fine with all this "Project 2025" stuff too, right? Fire, relocate, demote tens of thousands of civil service workers who don't jump when he barks. All the authoritarian things he plans to do take "guts", right? TRULY weaponizing the DoJ...that'll be fun to watch, you can soak up all that retribution...

Can't wait to get Jared and Ivanka back into government...Eric and Don Jr. too...great pile of family "guts" there, right? We'll get a lot more infrastructure work done under them...along with way more tax cuts. Oh boy.

Wait, we didn't talk about all those great court appointments he made...and his "common sense" position on abortion.

Four more years of Kool-Aid Martini's!
Trump made plenty of mistakes and plenty of bad policy decisions. So does every president. And to reference something CAS said, which I agree with completely--politicians lie. It's almost a prerequisite to being a politician. I stand by my comments. Trump stands for America and he certainly stands strong for Israel, which is of supreme importance to me. I know for certain sure Trump wouldn't be playing stupid games with arms deliveries for Israel.
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cradleandshoot wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 9:00 am
SCLaxAttack wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 8:37 am Love me some Heather Cox Richardson. So that’s what it is - the Gish Gallop:

https://heathercoxrichardson.substack.c ... ne-27-2024
FTR if trump actually told the truth would anybody notice? The media pundits have all been clamoring that all trump did was lie. All my time on this earth politicians have been lying to America . :roll:
And the media calls it out when other politicians lie. Google "Trump and Biden fact check"....and you'll see it from multiple sources.

The difference? Trump fans don't care when Trump lies. They only get upset when other politicians lie.
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SCLaxAttack wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 8:37 am Love me some Heather Cox Richardson. So that’s what it is - the Gish Gallop:

https://heathercoxrichardson.substack.c ... ne-27-2024
Does Heather have a name for the gaslighting that has been assuring the world that Biden is sharp as a tack ?
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a fan wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 10:13 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 9:00 am
SCLaxAttack wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 8:37 am Love me some Heather Cox Richardson. So that’s what it is - the Gish Gallop:

https://heathercoxrichardson.substack.c ... ne-27-2024
FTR if trump actually told the truth would anybody notice? The media pundits have all been clamoring that all trump did was lie. All my time on this earth politicians have been lying to America . :roll:
And the media calls it out when other politicians lie. Google "Trump and Biden fact check"....and you'll see it from multiple sources.

The difference? Trump fans don't care when Trump lies. They only get upset when other politicians lie.
I call this the post “social media rise in false equivalency”. Very easy to say “all politicians lie” without dintisguishing between a false promise, an exaggeration, a mistake, and a malicious and deliberate lie used to deceive. In today’s world, they are all the same. We have even softened the meaning of a lie. They are called falsehoods today instead of a lie. A falsehood doesn’t resonate the same way. We teach our kids to not tell a lie. We don’t say “don’t tell falsehoods”. None of this is an accident. The term “fake news” had its origins in Russian disinformation campaigns….it first started showing up here with the Trump campaign, the incessant refrain of “fake news” has not just served to undermine credible media….it has served to elevate information from some guy on the internet….The Washington Post and a guy blogging on the internet are now equivalent. No different than Joe Biden and Donal Trump being the same when it comes to truthfulness, ethics and principles. They are equivalent.
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dislaxxic wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 8:17 am Get out of here with that MAGA stooge bullshirt Cranky. Biden has accomplished a TON of beneficial legislation in his first term and the way all you MagaT's get yer panties in a twist over "The Border" is a sad, laughable joke. You guys don't have two coherent thoughts in your skulls when it comes to the border issue...and tanking the bipartisan compromise bill on immigration proves, once again, that MagaT's just want the political issue for their knuckledragging leader.

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Thanks for saying the quiet part out loud. America knows Democrats support open borders and illegals replacing law abiding citizens. So the question becomes, why do you support rape and murder of innocent Americans by illegal aliens? That’s what has happened numerous times under the Biden administration. Biden and the Democrats praise/mourn a multi violent convicted felon in George Floyd (who died of a drug OD, not police brutality), yet say nothing about Laken Riley et al who perished at the hands of illegals who the Democrats would give their left nut for. Democrats are evil people who simp so hard for criminals, it’s laughable at this point. And of course your rebuttal will say that Trump is a convicted felon- yeah because of a political witch hunt. Funny thing is, Biden can’t even beat a convicted felon at a debate. Clown
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Your daily reminder of how pathetic and horrible the Democrat Party is:

The Democrat party is unrecognizable today. Democrats today support:

High inflation
Endless wars
Believe men can be women (What the heck) (why don’t Democrats trust the science of biology and bodily anatomy?)
Democrats think masking works and so do 12 booster shots for a COVID virus that is the flu. ( why don’t they trust the science here?!?)
Democrats support pornographic books being promoted and read to children in school.
Democrats support grooming of children.
Support open borders
Support illegal aliens over law abiding citizens
Support illegals replacing the American electorate to maintain power
High taxes on the middle class
Support pedophilia, incest and rape ( all things Biden has committed- he raped how own daughter and molested countless others with video and photographic evidence to prove it)
They support voter fraud and fraudulent elections to maintain power (fascism)
They support imprisoning their political opponents (fascist)
They support censoring by free speech (fascism)
They support killing babies via abortion up to and after birth
Democrats support putting America and its citizens last.

The whole country knows that now after the debate Trump utterly destroyed Pedophile Joe Biden.

MAGA is about putting America First. Trump showed power, command and strength. He was under control and provided a sense of security for the country and its people. Voting for Trump means a return to normalcy and success for all Americans.
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You are the epitome of the person who makes social media/the internet the cesspool that it is, 2311.
You can say whatever you want, there's no editing, fact checking, or verification of truthfulness.
Trouble there is, there are plenty and plenty of people stupid enough to believe the kind of horseschidt
you write. What a wonderful citizen you are, here's hoping you have an opportunity to wear your MAGA
hat to a gathering of your ilk this week-end and have a good ol' time.
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DMac wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 11:15 am You are the epitome of the person who makes social media/the internet the cesspool that it is, 2311.
You can say whatever you want, there's no editing, fact checking, or verification of truthfulness.
Trouble there is, there are plenty and plenty of people stupid enough to believe the kind of horseschidt
you write. What a wonderful citizen you are, here's hoping you have an opportunity to wear your MAGA
hat to a gathering of your ilk this week-end and have a good ol' time.
You live in an echo chamber. Not anymore. I post facts about how horrible Democrat policies are for the USA and its people. That’s why God put me on this Earth. Sorry that facts hurt your feelings. I wear my MAGA hat often (I have a fashionable one, it’s not red) and have had nothing but compliments on it, especially at the grocery store where average Americans feel how horrible Biden’s inflationary economic policies truly are.

Have a great Saturday!
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DMac wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 11:15 am You are the epitome of the person who makes social media/the internet the cesspool that it is, 2311.
You can say whatever you want, there's no editing, fact checking, or verification of truthfulness.
Trouble there is, there are plenty and plenty of people stupid enough to believe the kind of horseschidt
you write. What a wonderful citizen you are, here's hoping you have an opportunity to wear your MAGA
hat to a gathering of your ilk this week-end and have a good ol' time.
He is trying to perform the Gish Gallop on his own...

I don't think he is going to sway anybody here.
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Let’s all wish Steve Bannon a happy summer at “camp.”
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a fan wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 10:13 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 9:00 am
SCLaxAttack wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 8:37 am Love me some Heather Cox Richardson. So that’s what it is - the Gish Gallop:

https://heathercoxrichardson.substack.c ... ne-27-2024
FTR if trump actually told the truth would anybody notice? The media pundits have all been clamoring that all trump did was lie. All my time on this earth politicians have been lying to America . :roll:
And the media calls it out when other politicians lie. Google "Trump and Biden fact check"....and you'll see it from multiple sources.

The difference? Trump fans don't care when Trump lies. They only get upset when other politicians lie.
The reality is my man we the people have long grown accustomed to politicians lying to us. If the American people accept dishonesty in the mainstream Republican and Democrat politicians what should it matter that trump is a more frequent and belligerent liar? Does it boil down to content and frequency?? Once a politician lies right to your face then their credibility is forever gone.
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RedFromMI wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 11:20 am
DMac wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 11:15 am You are the epitome of the person who makes social media/the internet the cesspool that it is, 2311.
You can say whatever you want, there's no editing, fact checking, or verification of truthfulness.
Trouble there is, there are plenty and plenty of people stupid enough to believe the kind of horseschidt
you write. What a wonderful citizen you are, here's hoping you have an opportunity to wear your MAGA
hat to a gathering of your ilk this week-end and have a good ol' time.
He is trying to perform the Gish Gallop on his own...

I don't think he is going to sway anybody here.
Thanks, that's a new one on me, will be using that one.
Absolutely nails 2311.
The Gish gallop (/ˈɡɪʃ ˈɡæləp/) is a rhetorical technique in which a person in a debate attempts to overwhelm their opponent by providing an excessive number of arguments with no regard for the accuracy or strength of those arguments. Gish galloping prioritizes the quantity of the galloper's arguments at the expense of their quality. The term was coined in 1994 by anthropologist Eugenie Scott, who named it after American creationist Duane Gish and argued that Gish used the technique frequently when challenging the scientific fact of evolution.[1]
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njbill wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 11:36 am Let’s all wish Steve Bannon a happy summer at “camp.”
Maybe he can learn how to make boondoggles? I bet he could make some buckaroos making them in yellow and blue and donating the proceeds to Ukraine. How many boondoggle keychains are needed to purchase a 155 millimeter artillery shell?
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cradleandshoot wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 11:38 am
a fan wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 10:13 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 9:00 am
SCLaxAttack wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 8:37 am Love me some Heather Cox Richardson. So that’s what it is - the Gish Gallop:

https://heathercoxrichardson.substack.c ... ne-27-2024
FTR if trump actually told the truth would anybody notice? The media pundits have all been clamoring that all trump did was lie. All my time on this earth politicians have been lying to America . :roll:
And the media calls it out when other politicians lie. Google "Trump and Biden fact check"....and you'll see it from multiple sources.

The difference? Trump fans don't care when Trump lies. They only get upset when other politicians lie.
The reality is my man we the people have long grown accustomed to politicians lying to us. If the American people accept dishonesty in the mainstream Republican and Democrat politicians what should it matter that trump is a more frequent and belligerent liar? Does it boil down to content and frequency?? Once a politician lies right to your face then their credibility is forever gone.
So there's no difference in telling your wife she doesn't look fat in that dress and telling your wife you didn't sleep with and pay off a hooked? All lies are the same?
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