Coaching Carousel 2024

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laxdad1434
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boblaxnj wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 11:43 am
Njlaxx11 wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 11:12 am
boblaxnj wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 11:10 am
Njlaxx11 wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 10:40 am
boblaxnj wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 10:26 am Ryan Licht might be an interesting name for FDU. Current DC at Stevens and was formerly the Montclair DC. Also a Hall of Fame inductee at FDU. Personally trying to follow FDU the last few years they could use a new energetic guy, and from what I’ve heard about Licht, he’s that. The defense at Stevens has been statistically one of the best in the country the last couple of years with him there. Would be tough to go from the top of the conference to the bottom however. The coordinator jobs at Stevens have been a rotating door recently, wonder if he could be another one to leave for a “higher” position.
heard rumblings this weekend about some nonsense going on at stevens. wonder if his alum status at FDU would drive him there vs staying on at Stevens.
Interesting. I’d imagine it’d be very hard to pull him away, especially with how FDU has fared recently. It would be a tough rebuild. However, I also can’t see FDU having enough pull to bring in a guy who isn’t at least familiar with the program.
fdu has always been relatively solid, for the mid to low d3 programs, as you seem to know. nice campus, great field. i don't know much about their facilities. it's in a lacrosse rich area, i'd imagine it's harder to keep that talent in town, per se.

EDIT: i didn't realize how bad FDU has been the last 5 years. i remember them being somewhat good.
Coach Scarpello had some great years with the program, but yes, the last few have been almost unwatchable. Definitely a lacrosse rich area. Even if you aren’t getting the top tier talent in the area, which is far fetched (Delbarton, Madison, Mountain Lakes etc.) they still should be able to compete in the conference with what’s left after the D1 and high D3 guys are gone.
FDU is bad, really bad. They will never get the top kids from Mo. County, but they don't need those kids to be successful. Plenty of good athletes in the area looking to play. Great area to go to school.
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Re: Coaching Carousel 2024

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jerseyjames wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 1:13 pm How do we know FDU is open? Scarpello is still listed on site and has been an institution there
https://jobs.fdu.edu/postings/9740
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Re: Coaching Carousel 2024

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jerseyjames wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 1:24 pm Also, if FDU is open I believe people may be looking at the wrong Stevens assistant that could be the one to fill the job.

Dan Lederer has been around the block, including coaching FDU and Licht when the program was at their best. A much more mature hire, not as exciting but he knows his stuff and could bring some stability to the program and won't embarrass the school, if running a program is some Lederer is interested in.

Either way I think one of them would make the most sense and could be interested if not only for helping outside business purposes.

Also, this job is looking at a total overhaul, a 5+ year rebuild just to be competitive in conference games
From what I can tell, Dan is a solid guy and a composed leader. Bright future no matter what he decides to pursue. Exactly what a program like FDU needs. Good take
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Re: Coaching Carousel 2024

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TheLaxRat wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 2:29 pm
jerseyjames wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 1:24 pm Also, if FDU is open I believe people may be looking at the wrong Stevens assistant that could be the one to fill the job.

Dan Lederer has been around the block, including coaching FDU and Licht when the program was at their best. A much more mature hire, not as exciting but he knows his stuff and could bring some stability to the program and won't embarrass the school, if running a program is some Lederer is interested in.

Either way I think one of them would make the most sense and could be interested if not only for helping outside business purposes.

Also, this job is looking at a total overhaul, a 5+ year rebuild just to be competitive in conference games
From what I can tell, Dan is a solid guy and a composed leader. Bright future no matter what he decides to pursue. Exactly what a program like FDU needs. Good take
It looks like Dan Lederer has only been with the Ducks for one year? Where was he prior?
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jerseyjames wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 1:24 pm Also, if FDU is open I believe people may be looking at the wrong Stevens assistant that could be the one to fill the job.

Dan Lederer has been around the block, including coaching FDU and Licht when the program was at their best. A much more mature hire, not as exciting but he knows his stuff and could bring some stability to the program and won't embarrass the school, if running a program is some Lederer is interested in.

Either way I think one of them would make the most sense and could be interested if not only for helping outside business purposes.

Also, this job is looking at a total overhaul, a 5+ year rebuild just to be competitive in conference games
5 years? With the right coach and admin support it could be done much less time. One/two good recruiting class can turn a program around.
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Re: Coaching Carousel 2024

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boblaxnj wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 2:40 pm
TheLaxRat wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 2:29 pm
jerseyjames wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 1:24 pm Also, if FDU is open I believe people may be looking at the wrong Stevens assistant that could be the one to fill the job.

Dan Lederer has been around the block, including coaching FDU and Licht when the program was at their best. A much more mature hire, not as exciting but he knows his stuff and could bring some stability to the program and won't embarrass the school, if running a program is some Lederer is interested in.

Either way I think one of them would make the most sense and could be interested if not only for helping outside business purposes.

Also, this job is looking at a total overhaul, a 5+ year rebuild just to be competitive in conference games
From what I can tell, Dan is a solid guy and a composed leader. Bright future no matter what he decides to pursue. Exactly what a program like FDU needs. Good take
It looks like Dan Lederer has only been with the Ducks for one year? Where was he prior?
Like I said he's been a little bit of everywhere, was with FDU in its heyday, been successful with top NJ high schools, had a couple stints with Montclair State when that was a good program and involved with the NJ Club scene as well, a behind the scenes guy but very respected.
laxdad1434 wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 3:00 pm
jerseyjames wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 1:24 pm Also, if FDU is open I believe people may be looking at the wrong Stevens assistant that could be the one to fill the job.

Dan Lederer has been around the block, including coaching FDU and Licht when the program was at their best. A much more mature hire, not as exciting but he knows his stuff and could bring some stability to the program and won't embarrass the school, if running a program is some Lederer is interested in.

Either way I think one of them would make the most sense and could be interested if not only for helping outside business purposes.

Also, this job is looking at a total overhaul, a 5+ year rebuild just to be competitive in conference games
5 years? With the right coach and admin support it could be done much less time. One/two good recruiting class can turn a program around.
That's very funny you think that, the program is in shambles, bare bones. Its not exactly Yale, people aren't lining up to go to FDU, its a slow build, have to win a couple small recruiting battles each year before putting together a meaningful class. Look right across the street at Drew, very similar situation, program was barebones when leanos left, had to fire the next coach and only now, 6-7 years later are they halfway competent. I think if you made a Drew/FDU "All-Star" team and they played Chatham HS I'm pretty sure Chatham HS may win
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Re: Coaching Carousel 2024

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jerseyjames wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 8:28 pm
boblaxnj wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 2:40 pm
TheLaxRat wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 2:29 pm
jerseyjames wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 1:24 pm Also, if FDU is open I believe people may be looking at the wrong Stevens assistant that could be the one to fill the job.

Dan Lederer has been around the block, including coaching FDU and Licht when the program was at their best. A much more mature hire, not as exciting but he knows his stuff and could bring some stability to the program and won't embarrass the school, if running a program is some Lederer is interested in.

Either way I think one of them would make the most sense and could be interested if not only for helping outside business purposes.

Also, this job is looking at a total overhaul, a 5+ year rebuild just to be competitive in conference games
From what I can tell, Dan is a solid guy and a composed leader. Bright future no matter what he decides to pursue. Exactly what a program like FDU needs. Good take
It looks like Dan Lederer has only been with the Ducks for one year? Where was he prior?
Like I said he's been a little bit of everywhere, was with FDU in its heyday, been successful with top NJ high schools, had a couple stints with Montclair State when that was a good program and involved with the NJ Club scene as well, a behind the scenes guy but very respected.
laxdad1434 wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 3:00 pm
jerseyjames wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 1:24 pm Also, if FDU is open I believe people may be looking at the wrong Stevens assistant that could be the one to fill the job.

Dan Lederer has been around the block, including coaching FDU and Licht when the program was at their best. A much more mature hire, not as exciting but he knows his stuff and could bring some stability to the program and won't embarrass the school, if running a program is some Lederer is interested in.

Either way I think one of them would make the most sense and could be interested if not only for helping outside business purposes.

Also, this job is looking at a total overhaul, a 5+ year rebuild just to be competitive in conference games
5 years? With the right coach and admin support it could be done much less time. One/two good recruiting class can turn a program around.
That's very funny you think that, the program is in shambles, bare bones. Its not exactly Yale, people aren't lining up to go to FDU, its a slow build, have to win a couple small recruiting battles each year before putting together a meaningful class. Look right across the street at Drew, very similar situation, program was barebones when leanos left, had to fire the next coach and only now, 6-7 years later are they halfway competent. I think if you made a Drew/FDU "All-Star" team and they played Chatham HS I'm pretty sure Chatham HS may win
Chatham would win by 10, but you're not looking to get those kids. With the right coach and support from school administrators, it could be done.

In 7 years they might not have a program if it continues on the path they're on. I've seen them play, it's bad.
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boblaxnj wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 10:26 am Ryan Licht might be an interesting name for FDU. Current DC at Stevens and was formerly the Montclair DC. Also a Hall of Fame inductee at FDU. Personally trying to follow FDU the last few years they could use a new energetic guy, and from what I’ve heard about Licht, he’s that. The defense at Stevens has been statistically one of the best in the country the last couple of years with him there. Would be tough to go from the top of the conference to the bottom however. The coordinator jobs at Stevens have been a rotating door recently, wonder if he could be another one to leave for a “higher” position.
Licht to FDU would be a mistake for FDU. His track record is weak at best but FSU may be desperate at this point.
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Re: Coaching Carousel 2024

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laxdad1434 wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 8:39 pm
jerseyjames wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 8:28 pm
boblaxnj wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 2:40 pm
TheLaxRat wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 2:29 pm
jerseyjames wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 1:24 pm Also, if FDU is open I believe people may be looking at the wrong Stevens assistant that could be the one to fill the job.

Dan Lederer has been around the block, including coaching FDU and Licht when the program was at their best. A much more mature hire, not as exciting but he knows his stuff and could bring some stability to the program and won't embarrass the school, if running a program is some Lederer is interested in.

Either way I think one of them would make the most sense and could be interested if not only for helping outside business purposes.

Also, this job is looking at a total overhaul, a 5+ year rebuild just to be competitive in conference games
From what I can tell, Dan is a solid guy and a composed leader. Bright future no matter what he decides to pursue. Exactly what a program like FDU needs. Good take
It looks like Dan Lederer has only been with the Ducks for one year? Where was he prior?
Like I said he's been a little bit of everywhere, was with FDU in its heyday, been successful with top NJ high schools, had a couple stints with Montclair State when that was a good program and involved with the NJ Club scene as well, a behind the scenes guy but very respected.
laxdad1434 wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 3:00 pm
jerseyjames wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 1:24 pm Also, if FDU is open I believe people may be looking at the wrong Stevens assistant that could be the one to fill the job.

Dan Lederer has been around the block, including coaching FDU and Licht when the program was at their best. A much more mature hire, not as exciting but he knows his stuff and could bring some stability to the program and won't embarrass the school, if running a program is some Lederer is interested in.

Either way I think one of them would make the most sense and could be interested if not only for helping outside business purposes.

Also, this job is looking at a total overhaul, a 5+ year rebuild just to be competitive in conference games
5 years? With the right coach and admin support it could be done much less time. One/two good recruiting class can turn a program around.
That's very funny you think that, the program is in shambles, bare bones. Its not exactly Yale, people aren't lining up to go to FDU, its a slow build, have to win a couple small recruiting battles each year before putting together a meaningful class. Look right across the street at Drew, very similar situation, program was barebones when leanos left, had to fire the next coach and only now, 6-7 years later are they halfway competent. I think if you made a Drew/FDU "All-Star" team and they played Chatham HS I'm pretty sure Chatham HS may win
Chatham would win by 10, but you're not looking to get those kids. With the right coach and support from school administrators, it could be done.

In 7 years they might not have a program if it continues on the path they're on. I've seen them play, it's bad.
There is absolutely no way this could be done in less then 4 years and I think that's even a stretch... as you already noted there's no talent there, so you're not doing anything with current guys which probably means there's no talent coming in this fall, same spot as last year year1, luckily for the new coach FDU isn't looking at kids before senior year so you won't be too behind this summer on the trail but still your looking for hope at the bottom of the recruiting barrel. You're hiring a coach not a miracle worker, at the end of the day players make plays and they have a long way to go in putting out a halfway talented roster, not saying this new coach can't turn it around just saying they can't turn it around fast and if they go above .500 in conference play in the 1st 5 years ill treat you and the new coach to a 5 course meal up the street at Roots Steakhouse
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Asgot wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 9:03 pm
boblaxnj wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 10:26 am Ryan Licht might be an interesting name for FDU. Current DC at Stevens and was formerly the Montclair DC. Also a Hall of Fame inductee at FDU. Personally trying to follow FDU the last few years they could use a new energetic guy, and from what I’ve heard about Licht, he’s that. The defense at Stevens has been statistically one of the best in the country the last couple of years with him there. Would be tough to go from the top of the conference to the bottom however. The coordinator jobs at Stevens have been a rotating door recently, wonder if he could be another one to leave for a “higher” position.
Licht to FDU would be a mistake for FDU. His track record is weak at best but FSU may be desperate at this point.
I think the names who apply may surprise people, multiple sitting D1 head coaches applied for the Drew job back in 17 and the 2 schools aren't too far off. At the end of the day it is in a great area to live with many coaches in the college ranks growing up in NJ, much more attractive location then most d3 schools
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What active D1 head coaches applied for the Drew job and why were they not given the job?
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If stevens rumors are true does GP go to FDU?
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jerseyjames wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 9:26 pm
laxdad1434 wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 8:39 pm
jerseyjames wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 8:28 pm
boblaxnj wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 2:40 pm
TheLaxRat wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 2:29 pm
jerseyjames wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 1:24 pm Also, if FDU is open I believe people may be looking at the wrong Stevens assistant that could be the one to fill the job.

Dan Lederer has been around the block, including coaching FDU and Licht when the program was at their best. A much more mature hire, not as exciting but he knows his stuff and could bring some stability to the program and won't embarrass the school, if running a program is some Lederer is interested in.

Either way I think one of them would make the most sense and could be interested if not only for helping outside business purposes.

Also, this job is looking at a total overhaul, a 5+ year rebuild just to be competitive in conference games
From what I can tell, Dan is a solid guy and a composed leader. Bright future no matter what he decides to pursue. Exactly what a program like FDU needs. Good take
It looks like Dan Lederer has only been with the Ducks for one year? Where was he prior?
Like I said he's been a little bit of everywhere, was with FDU in its heyday, been successful with top NJ high schools, had a couple stints with Montclair State when that was a good program and involved with the NJ Club scene as well, a behind the scenes guy but very respected.
laxdad1434 wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 3:00 pm
jerseyjames wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 1:24 pm Also, if FDU is open I believe people may be looking at the wrong Stevens assistant that could be the one to fill the job.

Dan Lederer has been around the block, including coaching FDU and Licht when the program was at their best. A much more mature hire, not as exciting but he knows his stuff and could bring some stability to the program and won't embarrass the school, if running a program is some Lederer is interested in.

Either way I think one of them would make the most sense and could be interested if not only for helping outside business purposes.

Also, this job is looking at a total overhaul, a 5+ year rebuild just to be competitive in conference games
5 years? With the right coach and admin support it could be done much less time. One/two good recruiting class can turn a program around.
That's very funny you think that, the program is in shambles, bare bones. Its not exactly Yale, people aren't lining up to go to FDU, its a slow build, have to win a couple small recruiting battles each year before putting together a meaningful class. Look right across the street at Drew, very similar situation, program was barebones when leanos left, had to fire the next coach and only now, 6-7 years later are they halfway competent. I think if you made a Drew/FDU "All-Star" team and they played Chatham HS I'm pretty sure Chatham HS may win
Chatham would win by 10, but you're not looking to get those kids. With the right coach and support from school administrators, it could be done.

In 7 years they might not have a program if it continues on the path they're on. I've seen them play, it's bad.
There is absolutely no way this could be done in less then 4 years and I think that's even a stretch... as you already noted there's no talent there, so you're not doing anything with current guys which probably means there's no talent coming in this fall, same spot as last year year1, luckily for the new coach FDU isn't looking at kids before senior year so you won't be too behind this summer on the trail but still your looking for hope at the bottom of the recruiting barrel. You're hiring a coach not a miracle worker, at the end of the day players make plays and they have a long way to go in putting out a halfway talented roster, not saying this new coach can't turn it around just saying they can't turn it around fast and if they go above .500 in conference play in the 1st 5 years ill treat you and the new coach to a 5 course meal up the street at Roots Steakhouse
If they get a local coach with relationships with local HS coaches, it won't take that long. I'll take it easy on you, we'll go to Arthur's.
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Re: Coaching Carousel 2024

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laxdad1434 wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 1:38 pm
boblaxnj wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 11:43 am
Njlaxx11 wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 11:12 am
boblaxnj wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 11:10 am
Njlaxx11 wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 10:40 am
boblaxnj wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 10:26 am Ryan Licht might be an interesting name for FDU. Current DC at Stevens and was formerly the Montclair DC. Also a Hall of Fame inductee at FDU. Personally trying to follow FDU the last few years they could use a new energetic guy, and from what I’ve heard about Licht, he’s that. The defense at Stevens has been statistically one of the best in the country the last couple of years with him there. Would be tough to go from the top of the conference to the bottom however. The coordinator jobs at Stevens have been a rotating door recently, wonder if he could be another one to leave for a “higher” position.
heard rumblings this weekend about some nonsense going on at stevens. wonder if his alum status at FDU would drive him there vs staying on at Stevens.
Interesting. I’d imagine it’d be very hard to pull him away, especially with how FDU has fared recently. It would be a tough rebuild. However, I also can’t see FDU having enough pull to bring in a guy who isn’t at least familiar with the program.
fdu has always been relatively solid, for the mid to low d3 programs, as you seem to know. nice campus, great field. i don't know much about their facilities. it's in a lacrosse rich area, i'd imagine it's harder to keep that talent in town, per se.

EDIT: i didn't realize how bad FDU has been the last 5 years. i remember them being somewhat good.
Coach Scarpello had some great years with the program, but yes, the last few have been almost unwatchable. Definitely a lacrosse rich area. Even if you aren’t getting the top tier talent in the area, which is far fetched (Delbarton, Madison, Mountain Lakes etc.) they still should be able to compete in the conference with what’s left after the D1 and high D3 guys are gone.
FDU is bad, really bad. They will never get the top kids from Mo. County, but they don't need those kids to be successful. Plenty of good athletes in the area looking to play. Great area to go to school.
The problem goes beyond lacrosse. A lot of NJ kids simply do not want to go to college in state, they would rather go play D3 elsewhere or not play at all. If you are a parent of a recent NJ high school grad, just count how many of their friends are at Penn State, Ohio State, Clemson, South Carolina, Indiana, etc. vs in-state.
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HockeyLaxGolf42 wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 2:01 pm If stevens rumors are true does GP go to FDU?
What rumors are in the wild about GP?
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shorelax12 wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 4:24 pm
laxdad1434 wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 1:38 pm
boblaxnj wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 11:43 am
Njlaxx11 wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 11:12 am
boblaxnj wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 11:10 am
Njlaxx11 wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 10:40 am
boblaxnj wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 10:26 am Ryan Licht might be an interesting name for FDU. Current DC at Stevens and was formerly the Montclair DC. Also a Hall of Fame inductee at FDU. Personally trying to follow FDU the last few years they could use a new energetic guy, and from what I’ve heard about Licht, he’s that. The defense at Stevens has been statistically one of the best in the country the last couple of years with him there. Would be tough to go from the top of the conference to the bottom however. The coordinator jobs at Stevens have been a rotating door recently, wonder if he could be another one to leave for a “higher” position.
heard rumblings this weekend about some nonsense going on at stevens. wonder if his alum status at FDU would drive him there vs staying on at Stevens.
Interesting. I’d imagine it’d be very hard to pull him away, especially with how FDU has fared recently. It would be a tough rebuild. However, I also can’t see FDU having enough pull to bring in a guy who isn’t at least familiar with the program.
fdu has always been relatively solid, for the mid to low d3 programs, as you seem to know. nice campus, great field. i don't know much about their facilities. it's in a lacrosse rich area, i'd imagine it's harder to keep that talent in town, per se.

EDIT: i didn't realize how bad FDU has been the last 5 years. i remember them being somewhat good.
Coach Scarpello had some great years with the program, but yes, the last few have been almost unwatchable. Definitely a lacrosse rich area. Even if you aren’t getting the top tier talent in the area, which is far fetched (Delbarton, Madison, Mountain Lakes etc.) they still should be able to compete in the conference with what’s left after the D1 and high D3 guys are gone.
FDU is bad, really bad. They will never get the top kids from Mo. County, but they don't need those kids to be successful. Plenty of good athletes in the area looking to play. Great area to go to school.
The problem goes beyond lacrosse. A lot of NJ kids simply do not want to go to college in state, they would rather go play D3 elsewhere or not play at all. If you are a parent of a recent NJ high school grad, just count how many of their friends are at Penn State, Ohio State, Clemson, South Carolina, Indiana, etc. vs in-state.
If you look at the rosters for D3, D2 teams in NJ colleges, most are from NJ. Even the D1 schools are well represented by NJ kids. I don’t know a lot about FDU other than watching them play a couple times, but I know that area well and it’s a great location to go to school.
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shorelax12 wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 4:24 pm
laxdad1434 wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 1:38 pm
boblaxnj wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 11:43 am
Njlaxx11 wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 11:12 am
boblaxnj wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 11:10 am
Njlaxx11 wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 10:40 am
boblaxnj wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 10:26 am Ryan Licht might be an interesting name for FDU. Current DC at Stevens and was formerly the Montclair DC. Also a Hall of Fame inductee at FDU. Personally trying to follow FDU the last few years they could use a new energetic guy, and from what I’ve heard about Licht, he’s that. The defense at Stevens has been statistically one of the best in the country the last couple of years with him there. Would be tough to go from the top of the conference to the bottom however. The coordinator jobs at Stevens have been a rotating door recently, wonder if he could be another one to leave for a “higher” position.
heard rumblings this weekend about some nonsense going on at stevens. wonder if his alum status at FDU would drive him there vs staying on at Stevens.
Interesting. I’d imagine it’d be very hard to pull him away, especially with how FDU has fared recently. It would be a tough rebuild. However, I also can’t see FDU having enough pull to bring in a guy who isn’t at least familiar with the program.
fdu has always been relatively solid, for the mid to low d3 programs, as you seem to know. nice campus, great field. i don't know much about their facilities. it's in a lacrosse rich area, i'd imagine it's harder to keep that talent in town, per se.

EDIT: i didn't realize how bad FDU has been the last 5 years. i remember them being somewhat good.
Coach Scarpello had some great years with the program, but yes, the last few have been almost unwatchable. Definitely a lacrosse rich area. Even if you aren’t getting the top tier talent in the area, which is far fetched (Delbarton, Madison, Mountain Lakes etc.) they still should be able to compete in the conference with what’s left after the D1 and high D3 guys are gone.
FDU is bad, really bad. They will never get the top kids from Mo. County, but they don't need those kids to be successful. Plenty of good athletes in the area looking to play. Great area to go to school.
The problem goes beyond lacrosse. A lot of NJ kids simply do not want to go to college in state, they would rather go play D3 elsewhere or not play at all. If you are a parent of a recent NJ high school grad, just count how many of their friends are at Penn State, Ohio State, Clemson, South Carolina, Indiana, etc. vs in-state.
The trend is to go play MCLA at a bigger school they may enjoy more. Can you blame them??
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Re: Coaching Carousel 2024

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River Donkey wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 6:20 pm
shorelax12 wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 4:24 pm
laxdad1434 wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 1:38 pm
boblaxnj wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 11:43 am
Njlaxx11 wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 11:12 am
boblaxnj wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 11:10 am
Njlaxx11 wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 10:40 am
boblaxnj wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 10:26 am Ryan Licht might be an interesting name for FDU. Current DC at Stevens and was formerly the Montclair DC. Also a Hall of Fame inductee at FDU. Personally trying to follow FDU the last few years they could use a new energetic guy, and from what I’ve heard about Licht, he’s that. The defense at Stevens has been statistically one of the best in the country the last couple of years with him there. Would be tough to go from the top of the conference to the bottom however. The coordinator jobs at Stevens have been a rotating door recently, wonder if he could be another one to leave for a “higher” position.
heard rumblings this weekend about some nonsense going on at stevens. wonder if his alum status at FDU would drive him there vs staying on at Stevens.
Interesting. I’d imagine it’d be very hard to pull him away, especially with how FDU has fared recently. It would be a tough rebuild. However, I also can’t see FDU having enough pull to bring in a guy who isn’t at least familiar with the program.
fdu has always been relatively solid, for the mid to low d3 programs, as you seem to know. nice campus, great field. i don't know much about their facilities. it's in a lacrosse rich area, i'd imagine it's harder to keep that talent in town, per se.

EDIT: i didn't realize how bad FDU has been the last 5 years. i remember them being somewhat good.
Coach Scarpello had some great years with the program, but yes, the last few have been almost unwatchable. Definitely a lacrosse rich area. Even if you aren’t getting the top tier talent in the area, which is far fetched (Delbarton, Madison, Mountain Lakes etc.) they still should be able to compete in the conference with what’s left after the D1 and high D3 guys are gone.
FDU is bad, really bad. They will never get the top kids from Mo. County, but they don't need those kids to be successful. Plenty of good athletes in the area looking to play. Great area to go to school.
The problem goes beyond lacrosse. A lot of NJ kids simply do not want to go to college in state, they would rather go play D3 elsewhere or not play at all. If you are a parent of a recent NJ high school grad, just count how many of their friends are at Penn State, Ohio State, Clemson, South Carolina, Indiana, etc. vs in-state.
The trend is to go play MCLA at a bigger school they may enjoy more. Can you blame them??
Nope
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Re: Coaching Carousel 2024

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laxdad1434 wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 7:07 pm
River Donkey wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 6:20 pm
shorelax12 wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 4:24 pm
laxdad1434 wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 1:38 pm
boblaxnj wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 11:43 am
Njlaxx11 wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 11:12 am
boblaxnj wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 11:10 am
Njlaxx11 wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 10:40 am
boblaxnj wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 10:26 am Ryan Licht might be an interesting name for FDU. Current DC at Stevens and was formerly the Montclair DC. Also a Hall of Fame inductee at FDU. Personally trying to follow FDU the last few years they could use a new energetic guy, and from what I’ve heard about Licht, he’s that. The defense at Stevens has been statistically one of the best in the country the last couple of years with him there. Would be tough to go from the top of the conference to the bottom however. The coordinator jobs at Stevens have been a rotating door recently, wonder if he could be another one to leave for a “higher” position.
heard rumblings this weekend about some nonsense going on at stevens. wonder if his alum status at FDU would drive him there vs staying on at Stevens.
Interesting. I’d imagine it’d be very hard to pull him away, especially with how FDU has fared recently. It would be a tough rebuild. However, I also can’t see FDU having enough pull to bring in a guy who isn’t at least familiar with the program.
fdu has always been relatively solid, for the mid to low d3 programs, as you seem to know. nice campus, great field. i don't know much about their facilities. it's in a lacrosse rich area, i'd imagine it's harder to keep that talent in town, per se.

EDIT: i didn't realize how bad FDU has been the last 5 years. i remember them being somewhat good.
Coach Scarpello had some great years with the program, but yes, the last few have been almost unwatchable. Definitely a lacrosse rich area. Even if you aren’t getting the top tier talent in the area, which is far fetched (Delbarton, Madison, Mountain Lakes etc.) they still should be able to compete in the conference with what’s left after the D1 and high D3 guys are gone.
FDU is bad, really bad. They will never get the top kids from Mo. County, but they don't need those kids to be successful. Plenty of good athletes in the area looking to play. Great area to go to school.
The problem goes beyond lacrosse. A lot of NJ kids simply do not want to go to college in state, they would rather go play D3 elsewhere or not play at all. If you are a parent of a recent NJ high school grad, just count how many of their friends are at Penn State, Ohio State, Clemson, South Carolina, Indiana, etc. vs in-state.
The trend is to go play MCLA at a bigger school they may enjoy more. Can you blame them??
Nope
I can certainly appreciate the draw of of those schools. As laxdad knows, I am a NESCAC guy, so I am definitely biased in that respect, so I have mostly been exposed to kids that did not look at the NJ or MCLA schools as an option. Not to suggest that those schools do not offer a solid education, just not the path for a lot my son's lacrosse peers. Outside of the kids going top 20 D1, most were headed to NESCAC or comparable schools like W&L, Swarthmore, etc. I agree that the FDU location is great, I just do not see them drawing in a ton of NJ talent, especially with the other in-state options. I know that it is an apples to oranges comparison, but outside of a major name hire, I do not think that a good coach could come in and make a meaningful difference at FDU in the same manner as say Eric Wolf at NJIT.
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I hear you, God forbid you pull into a NJ country club with any other school than an Ivy or NESCAC sticker on the back window. Oh the embarrassment…
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