Cuse makes no sense at 8CU88a wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2024 1:45 pm The NCAA Committee released its first Top 10 on Saturday. It matched the RPI in every spot.
https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/ ... -we-/63177
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coda wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2024 1:58 pmCuse makes no sense at 8CU88a wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2024 1:45 pm The NCAA Committee released its first Top 10 on Saturday. It matched the RPI in every spot.
https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/ ... -we-/63177
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Higher.. They have head to head over UVa and a higher RPIFinster wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2024 2:01 pmcoda wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2024 1:58 pmCuse makes no sense at 8CU88a wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2024 1:45 pm The NCAA Committee released its first Top 10 on Saturday. It matched the RPI in every spot.
https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/ ... -we-/63177
Should be higher or lower?
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That ranking was made before Saturday's games. Was released during the Cuse-UVA game.coda wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2024 2:05 pmHigher.. They have head to head over UVa and a higher RPIFinster wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2024 2:01 pmcoda wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2024 1:58 pmCuse makes no sense at 8CU88a wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2024 1:45 pm The NCAA Committee released its first Top 10 on Saturday. It matched the RPI in every spot.
https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/ ... -we-/63177
Should be higher or lower?
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OK, that explains itHopFan16 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2024 2:07 pmThat ranking was made before Saturday's games. Was released during the Cuse-UVA game.coda wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2024 2:05 pmHigher.. They have head to head over UVa and a higher RPIFinster wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2024 2:01 pmcoda wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2024 1:58 pmCuse makes no sense at 8CU88a wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2024 1:45 pm The NCAA Committee released its first Top 10 on Saturday. It matched the RPI in every spot.
https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/ ... -we-/63177
Should be higher or lower?
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My new Top 20 4-27-2024.
My apologies to the late games but none will affect my top 20:
1. Notre Dame
2. Johns Hopkins
3. Denver
4. Penn State
5. Syracuse
6. Cornell
7. Georgetown
8. Duke
9. Maryland
10. Virginia
11. Yale
12. Princeton
13. Penn
14. Army
15. St. Joseph
16. Towson
17. Michigan
18. Boston University
19. Navy
20. North Carolina
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My apologies to the late games but none will affect my top 20:
1. Notre Dame
2. Johns Hopkins
3. Denver
4. Penn State
5. Syracuse
6. Cornell
7. Georgetown
8. Duke
9. Maryland
10. Virginia
11. Yale
12. Princeton
13. Penn
14. Army
15. St. Joseph
16. Towson
17. Michigan
18. Boston University
19. Navy
20. North Carolina
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ND all but locked up the 1 seed today.
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UVa is so tough. While I think they are a top 6 team, I also think they should be out of the tournament if they lose their next game and end on a 4 game losing streakjoewillie78 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 6:21 pm My new Top 20 4-27-2024.
My apologies to the late games but none will affect my top 20:
1. Notre Dame
2. Johns Hopkins
3. Denver
4. Penn State
5. Syracuse
6. Cornell
7. Georgetown
8. Duke
9. Maryland
10. Virginia
11. Yale
12. Princeton
13. Penn
14. Army
15. St. Joseph
16. Towson
17. Michigan
18. Boston University
19. Navy
20. North Carolina
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I would be curious to know which is the last AT LARGE team to make the tournament while LOSING their last 4 games?coda wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 6:13 pmUVa is so tough. While I think they are a top 6 team, I also think they should be out of the tournament if they lose their next game and end on a 4 game losing streakjoewillie78 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 6:21 pm My new Top 20 4-27-2024.
My apologies to the late games but none will affect my top 20:
1. Notre Dame
2. Johns Hopkins
3. Denver
4. Penn State
5. Syracuse
6. Cornell
7. Georgetown
8. Duke
9. Maryland
10. Virginia
11. Yale
12. Princeton
13. Penn
14. Army
15. St. Joseph
16. Towson
17. Michigan
18. Boston University
19. Navy
20. North Carolina
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PSU seems to be skating below the overrated radar somehow. Loss to Colgate. Only decent wins against 2 Ivy Leaguers. Georgetown and Cornell are the other sketchy suspects, probably even Denver too (I mean they did beat JHU, but did they really??).joewillie78 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 6:21 pm My new Top 20 4-27-2024.
My apologies to the late games but none will affect my top 20:
1. Notre Dame
2. Johns Hopkins
3. Denver
4. Penn State
5. Syracuse
6. Cornell
7. Georgetown
8. Duke
9. Maryland
10. Virginia
11. Yale
12. Princeton
13. Penn
14. Army
15. St. Joseph
16. Towson
17. Michigan
18. Boston University
19. Navy
20. North Carolina
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I just think if the seedings hold to this ranking, UVA will destroy Georgetown and
3 Denver vs. 6 Cornell and 4 PSU vs 5 Syracuse (Cuse has earned that ranking for sure) for a final 4 slot are kind of a joke relative to
1 Notre Dame vs 8/9 Duke/MD and 2 JHU vs 10 UVA
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this is one of the strangest seasons i can recall
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Earned #5 having lost to #6 and #9?keno in reno wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 6:50 pmPSU seems to be skating below the overrated radar somehow. Loss to Colgate. Only decent wins against 2 Ivy Leaguers. Georgetown and Cornell are the other sketchy suspects, probably even Denver too (I mean they did beat JHU, but did they really??).joewillie78 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 6:21 pm My new Top 20 4-27-2024.
My apologies to the late games but none will affect my top 20:
1. Notre Dame
2. Johns Hopkins
3. Denver
4. Penn State
5. Syracuse
6. Cornell
7. Georgetown
8. Duke
9. Maryland
10. Virginia
11. Yale
12. Princeton
13. Penn
14. Army
15. St. Joseph
16. Towson
17. Michigan
18. Boston University
19. Navy
20. North Carolina
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I just think if the seedings hold to this ranking, UVA will destroy Georgetown and
3 Denver vs. 6 Cornell and 4 PSU vs 5 Syracuse (Cuse has earned that ranking for sure) for a final 4 slot are kind of a joke relative to
1 Notre Dame vs 8/9 Duke/MD and 2 JHU vs 10 UVA
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If you think there is a perfect equation, please provide itmdk01 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 8:04 pmEarned #5 having lost to #6 and #9?keno in reno wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 6:50 pmPSU seems to be skating below the overrated radar somehow. Loss to Colgate. Only decent wins against 2 Ivy Leaguers. Georgetown and Cornell are the other sketchy suspects, probably even Denver too (I mean they did beat JHU, but did they really??).joewillie78 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 6:21 pm My new Top 20 4-27-2024.
My apologies to the late games but none will affect my top 20:
1. Notre Dame
2. Johns Hopkins
3. Denver
4. Penn State
5. Syracuse
6. Cornell
7. Georgetown
8. Duke
9. Maryland
10. Virginia
11. Yale
12. Princeton
13. Penn
14. Army
15. St. Joseph
16. Towson
17. Michigan
18. Boston University
19. Navy
20. North Carolina
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I just think if the seedings hold to this ranking, UVA will destroy Georgetown and
3 Denver vs. 6 Cornell and 4 PSU vs 5 Syracuse (Cuse has earned that ranking for sure) for a final 4 slot are kind of a joke relative to
1 Notre Dame vs 8/9 Duke/MD and 2 JHU vs 10 UVA
Cornell lost a game 20-9; what other top 8 team has lost a game like that? They beat Syracuse at home 3 days after Cuse played Notre Dame; that's as fortunate scheduling as it gets.
#9 was Maryland early in the season. Ok. Syracuse sure looks better than Maryland right now, but that could just be optics.
Denver is #3. Their 1 in a million comeback against JHU in February is the difference between being ranked 3 and 13 now. Everyone who watched the game would say JHU was the dominant team, but ok again.
So it comes back to the question of Syracuse at #5. They ain't great, but they've played a lot harder schedule than many other teams in the same ranking discussion (albeit a ton of home games), and they've had top wins. #5 is about right, and Denver and PSU should easily be ranked below them.
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UVA just dropped three straight games, including one to Notre Dame - who Georgetown actually beat - and an absolute spanking by Duke. But yes, sure, tHeY wIlL dEsTrOy ThEm. Your issue seems to be that even the good teams have lost multiple games this year, and it’s hard for your pea brain to accept that. In reality, there’s more parity this year than in many years past, and that’s a good thing. You can’t say that Duke/MD/UVA are head and shoulders above Denver/Cornell/PSU. They’ve all lost games to varying opponents, and it’s not that obvious to me where anyone should stand - there are all sorts of arguments to be made for everyone. Regardless, the tournament you’ve described sounds like an unreal lineup of games. Any team in the top 10 could make a run this year, and that’s exciting. If you can’t see and appreciate that, then you’re a Bona fide hater. I honestly respect that sort of dedication to hating - Silky Johnson would be proud.keno in reno wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 6:50 pmPSU seems to be skating below the overrated radar somehow. Loss to Colgate. Only decent wins against 2 Ivy Leaguers. Georgetown and Cornell are the other sketchy suspects, probably even Denver too (I mean they did beat JHU, but did they really??).joewillie78 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 6:21 pm My new Top 20 4-27-2024.
My apologies to the late games but none will affect my top 20:
1. Notre Dame
2. Johns Hopkins
3. Denver
4. Penn State
5. Syracuse
6. Cornell
7. Georgetown
8. Duke
9. Maryland
10. Virginia
11. Yale
12. Princeton
13. Penn
14. Army
15. St. Joseph
16. Towson
17. Michigan
18. Boston University
19. Navy
20. North Carolina
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I just think if the seedings hold to this ranking, UVA will destroy Georgetown and
3 Denver vs. 6 Cornell and 4 PSU vs 5 Syracuse (Cuse has earned that ranking for sure) for a final 4 slot are kind of a joke relative to
1 Notre Dame vs 8/9 Duke/MD and 2 JHU vs 10 UVA
Wife and four kids. I work at the Department of Motor Vehicles so please speak slowly. Posting in between shifts from the toilet.
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Cornell was coming off relatively short rest as well. Cornell's FO guy is hurt and cuse won all the face offs and STILL lost. Cornell also outplayed the unanimous #1 team, ND was lucky to win that game.keno in reno wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 9:33 pmIf you think there is a perfect equation, please provide itmdk01 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 8:04 pmEarned #5 having lost to #6 and #9?keno in reno wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 6:50 pmPSU seems to be skating below the overrated radar somehow. Loss to Colgate. Only decent wins against 2 Ivy Leaguers. Georgetown and Cornell are the other sketchy suspects, probably even Denver too (I mean they did beat JHU, but did they really??).joewillie78 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 6:21 pm My new Top 20 4-27-2024.
My apologies to the late games but none will affect my top 20:
1. Notre Dame
2. Johns Hopkins
3. Denver
4. Penn State
5. Syracuse
6. Cornell
7. Georgetown
8. Duke
9. Maryland
10. Virginia
11. Yale
12. Princeton
13. Penn
14. Army
15. St. Joseph
16. Towson
17. Michigan
18. Boston University
19. Navy
20. North Carolina
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I just think if the seedings hold to this ranking, UVA will destroy Georgetown and
3 Denver vs. 6 Cornell and 4 PSU vs 5 Syracuse (Cuse has earned that ranking for sure) for a final 4 slot are kind of a joke relative to
1 Notre Dame vs 8/9 Duke/MD and 2 JHU vs 10 UVA
Cornell lost a game 20-9; what other top 8 team has lost a game like that? They beat Syracuse at home 3 days after Cuse played Notre Dame; that's as fortunate scheduling as it gets.
#9 was Maryland early in the season. Ok. Syracuse sure looks better than Maryland right now, but that could just be optics.
Denver is #3. Their 1 in a million comeback against JHU in February is the difference between being ranked 3 and 13 now. Everyone who watched the game would say JHU was the dominant team, but ok again.
So it comes back to the question of Syracuse at #5. They ain't great, but they've played a lot harder schedule than many other teams in the same ranking discussion (albeit a ton of home games), and they've had top wins. #5 is about right, and Denver and PSU should easily be ranked below them.
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Virginia’s best wins are probably those against MD, Michigan, Towson, and North Carolina. Good, but not spectacular.DMV_Guy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 10:06 pmUVA just dropped three straight games, including one to Notre Dame - who Georgetown actually beat - and an absolute spanking by Duke. But yes, sure, tHeY wIlL dEsTrOy ThEm. Your issue seems to be that even the good teams have lost multiple games this year, and it’s hard for your pea brain to accept that. In reality, there’s more parity this year than in many years past, and that’s a good thing. You can’t say that Duke/MD/UVA are head and shoulders above Denver/Cornell/PSU. They’ve all lost games to varying opponents, and it’s not that obvious to me where anyone should stand - there are all sorts of arguments to be made for everyone. Regardless, the tournament you’ve described sounds like an unreal lineup of games. Any team in the top 10 could make a run this year, and that’s exciting. If you can’t see and appreciate that, then you’re a Bona fide hater. I honestly respect that sort of dedication to hating - Silky Johnson would be proud.keno in reno wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 6:50 pmPSU seems to be skating below the overrated radar somehow. Loss to Colgate. Only decent wins against 2 Ivy Leaguers. Georgetown and Cornell are the other sketchy suspects, probably even Denver too (I mean they did beat JHU, but did they really??).joewillie78 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 6:21 pm My new Top 20 4-27-2024.
My apologies to the late games but none will affect my top 20:
1. Notre Dame
2. Johns Hopkins
3. Denver
4. Penn State
5. Syracuse
6. Cornell
7. Georgetown
8. Duke
9. Maryland
10. Virginia
11. Yale
12. Princeton
13. Penn
14. Army
15. St. Joseph
16. Towson
17. Michigan
18. Boston University
19. Navy
20. North Carolina
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I just think if the seedings hold to this ranking, UVA will destroy Georgetown and
3 Denver vs. 6 Cornell and 4 PSU vs 5 Syracuse (Cuse has earned that ranking for sure) for a final 4 slot are kind of a joke relative to
1 Notre Dame vs 8/9 Duke/MD and 2 JHU vs 10 UVA
Their only losses are to Johns Hopkins, ND, Duke, and SU … which just happen to be the top four RPI teams.
Plus, #2 SOS and #6 RPI.
Virginia is an NCAA tournament team right now, and will likely be in even if they lose their next game. But that is not a sure thing.
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Re: 2024 top 20
What?DMV_Guy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 10:06 pmit’s hard for your pea brain to accept thatkeno in reno wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 6:50 pmPSU seems to be skating below the overrated radar somehow. Loss to Colgate. Only decent wins against 2 Ivy Leaguers. Georgetown and Cornell are the other sketchy suspects, probably even Denver too (I mean they did beat JHU, but did they really??).joewillie78 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 6:21 pm My new Top 20 4-27-2024.
My apologies to the late games but none will affect my top 20:
1. Notre Dame
2. Johns Hopkins
3. Denver
4. Penn State
5. Syracuse
6. Cornell
7. Georgetown
8. Duke
9. Maryland
10. Virginia
11. Yale
12. Princeton
13. Penn
14. Army
15. St. Joseph
16. Towson
17. Michigan
18. Boston University
19. Navy
20. North Carolina
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I just think if the seedings hold to this ranking, UVA will destroy Georgetown and
3 Denver vs. 6 Cornell and 4 PSU vs 5 Syracuse (Cuse has earned that ranking for sure) for a final 4 slot are kind of a joke relative to
1 Notre Dame vs 8/9 Duke/MD and 2 JHU vs 10 UVA
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That was my thinking,Lager wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 10:56 pmCornell was coming off relatively short rest as well. Cornell's FO guy is hurt and cuse won all the face offs and STILL lost. Cornell also outplayed the unanimous #1 team, ND was lucky to win that game.keno in reno wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 9:33 pmIf you think there is a perfect equation, please provide itmdk01 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 8:04 pmEarned #5 having lost to #6 and #9?keno in reno wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 6:50 pmPSU seems to be skating below the overrated radar somehow. Loss to Colgate. Only decent wins against 2 Ivy Leaguers. Georgetown and Cornell are the other sketchy suspects, probably even Denver too (I mean they did beat JHU, but did they really??).joewillie78 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 6:21 pm My new Top 20 4-27-2024.
My apologies to the late games but none will affect my top 20:
1. Notre Dame
2. Johns Hopkins
3. Denver
4. Penn State
5. Syracuse
6. Cornell
7. Georgetown
8. Duke
9. Maryland
10. Virginia
11. Yale
12. Princeton
13. Penn
14. Army
15. St. Joseph
16. Towson
17. Michigan
18. Boston University
19. Navy
20. North Carolina
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Joewillie78
I just think if the seedings hold to this ranking, UVA will destroy Georgetown and
3 Denver vs. 6 Cornell and 4 PSU vs 5 Syracuse (Cuse has earned that ranking for sure) for a final 4 slot are kind of a joke relative to
1 Notre Dame vs 8/9 Duke/MD and 2 JHU vs 10 UVA
Cornell lost a game 20-9; what other top 8 team has lost a game like that? They beat Syracuse at home 3 days after Cuse played Notre Dame; that's as fortunate scheduling as it gets.
#9 was Maryland early in the season. Ok. Syracuse sure looks better than Maryland right now, but that could just be optics.
Denver is #3. Their 1 in a million comeback against JHU in February is the difference between being ranked 3 and 13 now. Everyone who watched the game would say JHU was the dominant team, but ok again.
So it comes back to the question of Syracuse at #5. They ain't great, but they've played a lot harder schedule than many other teams in the same ranking discussion (albeit a ton of home games), and they've had top wins. #5 is about right, and Denver and PSU should easily be ranked below them.
on the Cornell ND game,
in fact - this is looking more and more to me like the Finals match up, pending the Ivy tournament outcome.
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Penn State is the most underrated team at the moment. I think they can win it all potentially.