Coaches On The Hot Seat 2024

[BigTurn]

Feel that Gary is not many years removed from that…

Doubtful

Head on over to the Syracuse fan board. Frustration is building.

I can assure you, none of us on the Syracuse fan board has any control over Gait's future.

I never said they did. But when there is dissatisfaction with performance around the program, it puts pressure on an AD to make a decision.

Gait has some issues his teams still need to resolve but there's zero chance of him getting fired after this year. He'd have to somehow miss the tournament this year (which seems highly unlikely) and then miss next years tournament, if that happens then he would be in trouble.

Right, which is why in my initial post I said several years removed.

[steel_hop]

The whole tOSU thing is born of ignorance of the past, as is so much of the modern age.

I mean sure but the real kick start of saying THE Ohio State came when on MNF (or SNF), the players started introducing themselves as "John Smith, Arkansas" I believe some University of Miami alums started introducing themselves as "The U" I am then pretty sure Eddie George then started his introduction as "THE Ohio State" and it rolled from there. Though I could have it backwards on schools but I'm pretty sure Eddie George started the OSU thing.

[LadiesLaxFan]

My hottest take would be Nick Myers - big time athletic program, has done next to nothing there.

That's not really a hot take. The issue is after their playoff appearance in 2022, they gave him an extension through the 2027 season. Probably shouldn't have done that, but they did. I doubt they eat the full three years remaining on that contract. They have a new AD so you never know but he also has bigger fish to fry than lacrosse. If in June 2026 it's been more of the same no one's going to be surprised if they eat the final year and move on. But not sure about before then.

I’m admittedly not tuned into the osu fan base, but haven’t heard anyone calling for his head, which I would’ve for several years now if I had played there or was a fan… that’s all aside from stories ive heard about his conduct towards high schools kids who flip commitments.

Understand contractual obligations muddy things, but that 5 year extension is wild imo.

Might as well be JV Tennis. Nobody cares at OSU. And Myers got the facility built so he obviously knows some money players. Indifference will keep him there for a while.

https://twitter.com/OSU_AD/status/1779654260294058237
The outgoing OSU athletic director was at the game last night. He had other places he could've been, like at the Masters with Jack watching Buckeye Neal Shipley.

I'll let you decide whether Tierney has met the Danowski standard at Hofstra which feels like it should be better than it's been.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hofstra_P ... s_lacrosse

There's a nifty graphic there you can play around with to see who has and hasn't made the tournament lately.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCAA_Divi ... tournament

I was just talking with a friend about the new Team USA coaches. I understand bringing Acacia Walker on as head coach of the women. She has done a great job with Boston College. The big head-scratcher is how the hell did Seth Tierney get the men's top job. What has he done to deserve this? There a lot of better coaches who deserved this. Just goes to show you how much the "Tierney" name helps.

[HopFan16]

Dino is not on the hot seat but he is 70 and can't keep coaching forever. They lose a ton of guys after this year: O'Neill, Brower, Carpenter, Frisoli, Dyson Williams, Zawada, Naso, Danenza, and a few others — all gone. Duke always reloads but that is quite the senior/grad class departing. With him stepping down as head coach of Team USA, wonder if the end is near in Durham, too. I know, someone has brought this up every year for the last six years at least, and he just keeps on going. But eventually it'll actually happen.

[BigTurn]

Gotta imagine Dino Jr or Ron will be filling the gap in Durham.

[coda]

Dino is not on the hot seat but he is 70 and can't keep coaching forever. They lose a ton of guys after this year: O'Neill, Brower, Carpenter, Frisoli, Dyson Williams, Zawada, Naso, Danenza, and a few others — all gone. Duke always reloads but that is quite the senior/grad class departing. With him stepping down as head coach of Team USA, wonder if the end is near in Durham, too. I know, someone has brought this up every year for the last six years at least, and he just keeps on going. But eventually it'll actually happen.

Its a good theory. Hard to say Duke is every in rebuilding mode, but this is probably as close as it gets for them. It would seem like a time to exit

[oldbartman]

Gotta imagine Dino Jr or Ron will be filling the gap in Durham.

Chemotti and Cassese would both be top candidates for the Duke HC job. I think Dino Jr. isn't quite ready. Though Caputo taking over with Dino Jr. sticking around would provide some continuity for the players and recruits.

[JeremyCuse]

I'm sure there's a major financial consideration to consider but hard to think Raymond isn't on a major hot seat. Hobart has taken some major steps backwards and look overwhelmed in the A-10.

[oldbartman]

I'm sure there's a major financial consideration to consider but hard to think Raymond isn't on a major hot seat. Hobart has taken some major steps backwards and look overwhelmed in the A-10.

I was waiting to see if someone other than a Hobart fan would write something. Don't disagree with it either......

[keno in reno]

My hottest take would be Nick Myers - big time athletic program, has done next to nothing there.

That's not really a hot take. The issue is after their playoff appearance in 2022, they gave him an extension through the 2027 season. Probably shouldn't have done that, but they did. I doubt they eat the full three years remaining on that contract. They have a new AD so you never know but he also has bigger fish to fry than lacrosse. If in June 2026 it's been more of the same no one's going to be surprised if they eat the final year and move on. But not sure about before then.

I’m admittedly not tuned into the osu fan base, but haven’t heard anyone calling for his head, which I would’ve for several years now if I had played there or was a fan… that’s all aside from stories ive heard about his conduct towards high schools kids who flip commitments.

Understand contractual obligations muddy things, but that 5 year extension is wild imo. Guy gets paid $336k to lose in the first round every few years.

I don’t see lacrosse being a major priority at The Ohio State University. As long as Myers keeps his team out of scandal, he’s probably fine.

DocBarrister

The new OSU lacrosse facility cost $25 million. Conry (Michigan) was on death door last year, until the Big 10 tournament run. Couple boosters were not happy and were making some noise. That is probably because they helped to fund the lacrosse facility there. When boosters put in that kind of money, they expect some ROI. I would not be surprised to see that happen at OSU. Pressure to win gets elevated, when people make a real investment. That has happened at OSU, so I would assume the expectations will be adjusted.

This is more for the 'best stadiums' topic but no need to revive that....while it's nice that Michigan and OSU built dedicated stadiums, I don't get the over the top love for them. One of them you're looking at a giant black wall on TV and the other you look at a self-storage unit, a road and hotel parking lot. Lots of people criticize Maryland Stadium, rightfully so, but these little places aren't exactly Field of Dreams just because they aren't cavernous football arenas.

[coda]

My hottest take would be Nick Myers - big time athletic program, has done next to nothing there.

That's not really a hot take. The issue is after their playoff appearance in 2022, they gave him an extension through the 2027 season. Probably shouldn't have done that, but they did. I doubt they eat the full three years remaining on that contract. They have a new AD so you never know but he also has bigger fish to fry than lacrosse. If in June 2026 it's been more of the same no one's going to be surprised if they eat the final year and move on. But not sure about before then.

I’m admittedly not tuned into the osu fan base, but haven’t heard anyone calling for his head, which I would’ve for several years now if I had played there or was a fan… that’s all aside from stories ive heard about his conduct towards high schools kids who flip commitments.

Understand contractual obligations muddy things, but that 5 year extension is wild imo. Guy gets paid $336k to lose in the first round every few years.

I don’t see lacrosse being a major priority at The Ohio State University. As long as Myers keeps his team out of scandal, he’s probably fine.

DocBarrister

The new OSU lacrosse facility cost $25 million. Conry (Michigan) was on death door last year, until the Big 10 tournament run. Couple boosters were not happy and were making some noise. That is probably because they helped to fund the lacrosse facility there. When boosters put in that kind of money, they expect some ROI. I would not be surprised to see that happen at OSU. Pressure to win gets elevated, when people make a real investment. That has happened at OSU, so I would assume the expectations will be adjusted.

This is more for the 'best stadiums' topic but no need to revive that....while it's nice that Michigan and OSU built dedicated stadiums, I don't get the over the top love for them. One of them you're looking at a giant black wall on TV and the other you look at a self-storage unit, a road and hotel parking lot. Lots of people criticize Maryland Stadium, rightfully so, but these little places aren't exactly Field of Dreams just because they aren't cavernous football arenas.

I am not sure how you read that and responded with the message above. It had nothing to do with the stadiums or any love for them. It was simply how life works. Boosters came together to help fund those facilities. When that happens, boosters tend expect some return on their investment. That usually comes with increased expectations and pressure on coaches.

[JeremyCuse]

I'm sure there's a major financial consideration to consider but hard to think Raymond isn't on a major hot seat. Hobart has taken some major steps backwards and look overwhelmed in the A-10.

I was waiting to see if someone other than a Hobart fan would write something. Don't disagree with it either......

I think Raymond has done a pretty good job recruiting O wise, I like a lot the Sec 3 kids he brought in and most have had significant success. I also enjoy the guys over on the Hobart thread, lot of knowledgeable guys who understand the game. That said the wins just aren't there and when one of the highlights of the year is only losing by six to a disinterested SU team playing on a frozen field, it's time to consider moving on.

[Wheels]

Gotta imagine Dino Jr or Ron will be filling the gap in Durham.

If we're all lucky that's what they do....

[Wheels]

JL Reppert inherited a really crummy situation up at Holy Cross, but things don't look improved at all. He's been through a ton with his wife's medical situation, too. But being one of the worst D1 teams can't go on for too long up there.

[GaitsRightHand]

St Bonnies...

Looks like they're playing below a Maac level for the second season in a row.

A big part of them getting lacrosse was so the A10 could become a lacrosse conference. Looks like the coaching staff isn't recruiting or playing at an A10 level.

HM:
UDM - but something tells me the school doesn't care about wins/losses

[LIfan92]

My hottest take would be Nick Myers - big time athletic program, has done next to nothing there.

That's not really a hot take. The issue is after their playoff appearance in 2022, they gave him an extension through the 2027 season. Probably shouldn't have done that, but they did. I doubt they eat the full three years remaining on that contract. They have a new AD so you never know but he also has bigger fish to fry than lacrosse. If in June 2026 it's been more of the same no one's going to be surprised if they eat the final year and move on. But not sure about before then.

I’m admittedly not tuned into the osu fan base, but haven’t heard anyone calling for his head, which I would’ve for several years now if I had played there or was a fan… that’s all aside from stories ive heard about his conduct towards high schools kids who flip commitments.

Understand contractual obligations muddy things, but that 5 year extension is wild imo.

Might as well be JV Tennis. Nobody cares at OSU. And Myers got the facility built so he obviously knows some money players. Indifference will keep him there for a while.

https://twitter.com/OSU_AD/status/1779654260294058237
The outgoing OSU athletic director was at the game last night. He had other places he could've been, like at the Masters with Jack watching Buckeye Neal Shipley.

I'll let you decide whether Tierney has met the Danowski standard at Hofstra which feels like it should be better than it's been.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hofstra_P ... s_lacrosse

There's a nifty graphic there you can play around with to see who has and hasn't made the tournament lately.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCAA_Divi ... tournament

I was just talking with a friend about the new Team USA coaches. I understand bringing Acacia Walker on as head coach of the women. She has done a great job with Boston College. The big head-scratcher is how the hell did Seth Tierney get the men's top job. What has he done to deserve this? There a lot of better coaches who deserved this. Just goes to show you how much the "Tierney" name helps.

Few things about Hofstra, team USA and Seth.

Seth has been apart of team USA for years now and the CEO of USA lacrosse is a Hofstra Lacrosse alum. Seth is well respected and a great coach, tough spot at Hofstra and maybe he was getting distracted with PLL and USA and didn’t focus on Hofstra as much.

Hofstra has seemed to perform worse as he got more involved in USA and PLL. Not many people will realize that though.

The players love him (I’m an alum). Obviously there will be guys who don’t like him but that’s with any coach.

He gets kids to graduate, helps them find jobs, and keeps them out of Trouble.

Hofstra as a lot of donors and a lot of big donors. Would not be surprised if the lacrosse team gets more donations than most other lacrosse teams in the country.

Finally, the school certainly cares about lacrosse, probably one of the few sports the do care about outside of basketball. Looking at the website the assistant AD is a Hofstra lax alum. They want to win.

Alumni are getting frustrated and will want Seth to step down or for him to step away from PLL and USA, to bring back Hofstra to the 2000-2017 years where they were consistently ranked and at least competing in their down years. Now their down years are DOWN.

[Farfromgeneva]

My hottest take would be Nick Myers - big time athletic program, has done next to nothing there.

That's not really a hot take. The issue is after their playoff appearance in 2022, they gave him an extension through the 2027 season. Probably shouldn't have done that, but they did. I doubt they eat the full three years remaining on that contract. They have a new AD so you never know but he also has bigger fish to fry than lacrosse. If in June 2026 it's been more of the same no one's going to be surprised if they eat the final year and move on. But not sure about before then.

I’m admittedly not tuned into the osu fan base, but haven’t heard anyone calling for his head, which I would’ve for several years now if I had played there or was a fan… that’s all aside from stories ive heard about his conduct towards high schools kids who flip commitments.

Understand contractual obligations muddy things, but that 5 year extension is wild imo.

Might as well be JV Tennis. Nobody cares at OSU. And Myers got the facility built so he obviously knows some money players. Indifference will keep him there for a while.

https://twitter.com/OSU_AD/status/1779654260294058237
The outgoing OSU athletic director was at the game last night. He had other places he could've been, like at the Masters with Jack watching Buckeye Neal Shipley.

I'll let you decide whether Tierney has met the Danowski standard at Hofstra which feels like it should be better than it's been.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hofstra_P ... s_lacrosse

There's a nifty graphic there you can play around with to see who has and hasn't made the tournament lately.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCAA_Divi ... tournament

I was just talking with a friend about the new Team USA coaches. I understand bringing Acacia Walker on as head coach of the women. She has done a great job with Boston College. The big head-scratcher is how the hell did Seth Tierney get the men's top job. What has he done to deserve this? There a lot of better coaches who deserved this. Just goes to show you how much the "Tierney" name helps.

“What’s he done …”

Born right

[Farfromgeneva]

Gotta imagine Dino Jr or Ron will be filling the gap in Durham.

Alabama form the last decade some think Dino Jens being groomed. If he is they will sink. P

[Farfromgeneva]

I'm sure there's a major financial consideration to consider but hard to think Raymond isn't on a major hot seat. Hobart has taken some major steps backwards and look overwhelmed in the A-10.

What’s that you said? You are communicating in an officially capacity for
Syracuse. You want to Pat March for Raymond?

You’re done and filled son. No regrades. or DK. All final. Kids doing business with you, we will send guys up for our new coach and his family.

[Ketch]

I'm sure there's a major financial consideration to consider but hard to think Raymond isn't on a major hot seat. Hobart has taken some major steps backwards and look overwhelmed in the A-10.

I was waiting to see if someone other than a Hobart fan would write something. Don't disagree with it either......

I think Raymond has done a pretty good job recruiting O wise, I like a lot the Sec 3 kids he brought in and most have had significant success. I also enjoy the guys over on the Hobart thread, lot of knowledgeable guys who understand the game. That said the wins just aren't there and when one of the highlights of the year is only losing by six to a disinterested SU team playing on a frozen field, it's time to consider moving on.

Hey, we really only lost by five… But I feel like this staff has already reached its ceiling, sad to say. Is a fresh impulse needed?