I am not sure I would put them in the tournament as of todaykramerica.inc wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 10:24 amYes indeed. That is the team with the biggest question marks.coda wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 10:22 amDoesnt Gtown lose a ton? (Dordevic, Minicus, Solomon, Kelly, and Reilly (fogo))kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 10:13 am Georgetown
UMD
JHU
Rutgers
Then Duke
Oh wait, that's not my final four. That's Loyola's first five weeks of the season. Yipes.
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What are your thoughts about Towson for 2024?
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I havent really looked at them. I know my model had them with the 35th offense and 24th defense last year, so I would expect them to improve on that 6-9 record. That is a guess, because I dont know what they are losing.
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I think I see them as an NCAA team. They were very close last year, lost some close games, seemed to start clicking at the end of the year. And they have some good young talent that should mature.
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You have to think Delaware takes a step back, so there is no reason they cant compete for the conference title. Tough to be 6-9 with a +22 goal differential (even taking out Hampton)kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 10:37 amI think I see them as an NCAA team. They were very close last year, lost some close games, seemed to start clicking at the end of the year. And they have some good young talent that should mature.
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Duke
ND
JHU
UVA
I think Hopkins finally breaks through and returns to MDW.
ND
JHU
UVA
I think Hopkins finally breaks through and returns to MDW.
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UVA has to be the front runner. Bringing in the number one recruit three years in a row. Transferring in the best D3 player.
ND brings back a lot of talent. They have to be in the running also.
The last two spots are up for grabs from MD, Duke, and my long shot is Cuse
ND brings back a lot of talent. They have to be in the running also.
The last two spots are up for grabs from MD, Duke, and my long shot is Cuse
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Towson started a few freshman last year. They will just be stronger. Towson is the front runner to win the conferencecoda wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 10:45 amYou have to think Delaware takes a step back, so there is no reason they cant compete for the conference title. Tough to be 6-9 with a +22 goal differential (even taking out Hampton)kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 10:37 amI think I see them as an NCAA team. They were very close last year, lost some close games, seemed to start clicking at the end of the year. And they have some good young talent that should mature.
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I guess along with predicting the final four here is a prediction for the top team in each conference and tourney selections way too early
ACC: Duke (UVA, ND likely tournament teams)
AE: VT
ASUN: UT
A10: Richmond
BigE: GT (Denver likely tournament team)
Big10: UMD (JHU and PSU likely tournament teams)
CAA: DE
IVY: Upenn (Princeton, Cornell, Yale pick 2 likely tournament teams)
MAAC: LIU??
Patriot: Army
Remaining pool of AL bids: Jax, HP, Patriot runner up, UNC, Rutgers, MI, Cuse, UNC
ACC: Duke (UVA, ND likely tournament teams)
AE: VT
ASUN: UT
A10: Richmond
BigE: GT (Denver likely tournament team)
Big10: UMD (JHU and PSU likely tournament teams)
CAA: DE
IVY: Upenn (Princeton, Cornell, Yale pick 2 likely tournament teams)
MAAC: LIU??
Patriot: Army
Remaining pool of AL bids: Jax, HP, Patriot runner up, UNC, Rutgers, MI, Cuse, UNC
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I would put Denver over Gtown. GT has so many questions and I think are pretty over-rated at this point, as people seem to be assuming they will maintain their recent levels of success..OSVAlacrosse wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 2:39 pm I guess along with predicting the final four here is a prediction for the top team in each conference and tourney selections way too early
ACC: Duke (UVA, ND likely tournament teams)
AE: VT
ASUN: UT
A10: Richmond
BigE: GT (Denver likely tournament team)
Big10: UMD (JHU and PSU likely tournament teams)
CAA: DE
IVY: Upenn (Princeton, Cornell, Yale pick 2 likely tournament teams)
MAAC: LIU??
Patriot: Army
Remaining pool of AL bids: Jax, HP, Patriot runner up, UNC, Rutgers, MI, Cuse, UNC
Big 10; Have to go PSU, but I think 2024 will be similar to 2023. Lots of contenders and arguably the most entertaining conference in lacrosse.
Ivy- Cornell.. I'd set O/U on tournament teams @ 2.
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Tigers have a good crop of (last year) freshmen and sophomores,Jumbo wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 1:27 pmTowson started a few freshman last year.coda wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 10:45 amYou have to think Delaware takes a step back, so there is no reason they cant compete for the conference title. Tough to be 6-9 with a +22 goal differential (even taking out Hampton)kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 10:37 amI think I see them as an NCAA team. They were very close last year, lost some close games, seemed to start clicking at the end of the year. And they have some good young talent that should mature.
including a 5 star freshman last year.
Questions for me on what the Tigers do on defense and who’s in goal this year.
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Gianforcaro will be in goal for Princeton. I like the Tigers as a dark horse team. Wouldn't select them for the final four, but they dealt with a lot of injuries last year, they have Mackesey back, are sent in goal, should have a good face-off crew and the freshmen should be good. Lots to replace but I think people might be undervaluing them.10stone5 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:08 pmTigers have a good crop of (last year) freshmen and sophomores,Jumbo wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 1:27 pmTowson started a few freshman last year.coda wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 10:45 amYou have to think Delaware takes a step back, so there is no reason they cant compete for the conference title. Tough to be 6-9 with a +22 goal differential (even taking out Hampton)kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 10:37 amI think I see them as an NCAA team. They were very close last year, lost some close games, seemed to start clicking at the end of the year. And they have some good young talent that should mature.
including a 5 star freshman last year.
Questions for me on what the Tigers do on defense and who’s in goal this year.
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Maryland has Tillman. Their other conference foes do not. He is worth a few goals and certainly the best coach in his league and top 3 overall, from the perspective of an outsider.coda wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 10:05 amLittle surprised people are mentioning Maryland and nobody has mentioned Hopkins. Maryland ended the year as the 4th best Big10 team. I do think they are dangerous, but I think Hopkins is has a chance to make noise also. Penn State the favorite, but I would not be shocked to see Hopkins or Michigan make a run to the final four.
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Top 3 in the ACC and B1G are the heavy favorites going in. Army looks the best poised of the non Big 3 leagues; but it's been a steep climb lately for schools not in that mix and Army hasn't made back to back tournaments under Alberici so there's some history against them. If Yale could figure out that defense, they play offense as well as anyone in the country. But they've been rough on that end the last two years.
For now, I'll go
Virginia
Notre Dame
Maryland
Penn State
But could be any mix of that Top 6 and I do believe it'll be a more competitive year in general than it was last year
For now, I'll go
Virginia
Notre Dame
Maryland
Penn State
But could be any mix of that Top 6 and I do believe it'll be a more competitive year in general than it was last year
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Not specific to you but how come I never see anyone mention this kid who had the game winner and is as valuable as anyone IMO incl Entemann and the Kavanaughs. And I think Teflon got credit for the impact of Dobson too much last spring.
https://fightingirish.com/roster/eric-dobson/
7,3,10 on 23 shots vs JHU, UVA & Duke in playoffs. Lefty with a hard shot from midfield. Inherited him on my sons fantasy team and they went as he went generally last year.
Now I love those cowboys, I love their gold
Love my uncle, God rest his soul
Taught me good, Lord, taught me all I know
Taught me so well, that I grabbed that gold
I left his dead ass there by the side of the road, yeah
Love my uncle, God rest his soul
Taught me good, Lord, taught me all I know
Taught me so well, that I grabbed that gold
I left his dead ass there by the side of the road, yeah
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Unless Gilardi can build something like what Sowell did at SBU it sort of looks like it’s Del/Towson for the foreseeable future. Seems to me like times up on Tierney at Hofstra and they're zombies until a transition. Still early but Fairfield hasnt found anything close to early Towers and the prior coach I’m spacing on at Fairfield. To a certain degree they like Hobart and a couple of other smaller solid but not elite for elite cost schools have been hit hard by Boston U and Richmond. Drexel goes as their Canadian eligibility and amateur interests go.coda wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 10:45 amYou have to think Delaware takes a step back, so there is no reason they cant compete for the conference title. Tough to be 6-9 with a +22 goal differential (even taking out Hampton)kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 10:37 amI think I see them as an NCAA team. They were very close last year, lost some close games, seemed to start clicking at the end of the year. And they have some good young talent that should mature.
Now I love those cowboys, I love their gold
Love my uncle, God rest his soul
Taught me good, Lord, taught me all I know
Taught me so well, that I grabbed that gold
I left his dead ass there by the side of the road, yeah
Love my uncle, God rest his soul
Taught me good, Lord, taught me all I know
Taught me so well, that I grabbed that gold
I left his dead ass there by the side of the road, yeah
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Stony Brook has 5th year Pallonetti, an All American level talent, so I’d include them with Towson as the two who could bump off the Hens this year - Hens goalie is the question mark.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 10:56 pmUnless Gilardi can build something like what Sowell did at SBU it sort of looks like it’s Del/Towson for the foreseeable future. Seems to me like times up on Tierney at Hofstra and they're zombies until a transition. Still early but Fairfield hasnt found anything close to early Towers and the prior coach I’m spacing on at Fairfield. To a certain degree they like Hobart and a couple of other smaller solid but not elite for elite cost schools have been hit hard by Boston U and Richmond. Drexel goes as their Canadian eligibility and amateur interests go.coda wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 10:45 amYou have to think Delaware takes a step back, so there is no reason they cant compete for the conference title. Tough to be 6-9 with a +22 goal differential (even taking out Hampton)kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 10:37 amI think I see them as an NCAA team. They were very close last year, lost some close games, seemed to start clicking at the end of the year. And they have some good young talent that should mature.
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This is some of my personal bias showing, but the Kavanaugh's are a big reason Dobson isnt mentioned. When healthy, they tend to completely dominate the ball. The offense can get really stagnant with them.. Thought they are amazing at finding effort goalsFarfromgeneva wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 10:46 pmNot specific to you but how come I never see anyone mention this kid who had the game winner and is as valuable as anyone IMO incl Entemann and the Kavanaughs. And I think Teflon got credit for the impact of Dobson too much last spring.
https://fightingirish.com/roster/eric-dobson/
7,3,10 on 23 shots vs JHU, UVA & Duke in playoffs. Lefty with a hard shot from midfield. Inherited him on my sons fantasy team and they went as he went generally last year.
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Duke goes wire to wire with the best player in college lacrosse backed up by 18 graduate students
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The best player in college lacrosse, take , Shellenberg, / Kirch any day.Dehuntshigwa’es wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 11:02 am Duke goes wire to wire with the best player in college lacrosse backed up by 18 graduate students