2023 world lacrosse men's championship

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7-5 USA Final. Some great goaltending and interceptions.
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The international rules make for a boring game. All that talent on the field wasted.
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How is this good for the sport?
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faircornell wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 11:31 pm 7-5 USA Final. Some great goaltending and interceptions.
Never thought I would say this, but the international game needs a shot clock. Almost looked like a soccer version of lacrosse.

Team USA won all but two faceoffs. What is any team supposed to do against Baptiste and Ierlan?

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DocBarrister wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 12:08 am
faircornell wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 11:31 pm 7-5 USA Final. Some great goaltending and interceptions.
Never thought I would say this, but the international game needs a shot clock. Almost looked like a soccer version of lacrosse.

Team USA won all but two faceoffs. What is any team supposed to do against Baptiste and Ierlan?

DocBarrister
While I can't disagree, this is really more of a lacrosse "festival" in my view, as much as a tournament. This year, 30 teams qualified with no automatic invitations that I'm aware of. 107 games go through all skill levels, so the rules are geared toward the lowest common
denominator of play. World Lacrosse and the national teams do an amazing amount of work to prepare for thesis games. By construct, the USA/ Canada game will be sub-optimal so that teams less advanced teams can play with continuous flow and fewer stoppages of play.

As global lacrosse develops, a shot clock will become more realistic at all levels.
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faircornell wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 12:20 am
DocBarrister wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 12:08 am
faircornell wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 11:31 pm 7-5 USA Final. Some great goaltending and interceptions.
Never thought I would say this, but the international game needs a shot clock. Almost looked like a soccer version of lacrosse.

Team USA won all but two faceoffs. What is any team supposed to do against Baptiste and Ierlan?

DocBarrister
While I can't disagree, this is really more of a lacrosse "festival" in my view, as much as a tournament. This year, 30 teams qualified with no automatic invitations that I'm aware of. 107 games go through all skill levels, so the rules are geared toward the lowest common
denominator of play. World Lacrosse and the national teams do an amazing amount of work to prepare for thesis games. By construct, the USA/ Canada game will be sub-optimal so that teams less advanced teams can play with continuous flow and fewer stoppages of play.

As global lacrosse develops, a shot clock will become more realistic at all levels.
All makes sense. Thanks.

East Asia and the South Pacific well represented with South Korea, Hong Kong, Japan, Philippines, Australia, and New Zealand playing.

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DocBarrister wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 12:53 am
faircornell wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 12:20 am
DocBarrister wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 12:08 am
faircornell wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 11:31 pm 7-5 USA Final. Some great goaltending and interceptions.
Never thought I would say this, but the international game needs a shot clock. Almost looked like a soccer version of lacrosse.

Team USA won all but two faceoffs. What is any team supposed to do against Baptiste and Ierlan?

DocBarrister
While I can't disagree, this is really more of a lacrosse "festival" in my view, as much as a tournament. This year, 30 teams qualified with no automatic invitations that I'm aware of. 107 games go through all skill levels, so the rules are geared toward the lowest common denominator of play. World Lacrosse and the national teams do an amazing amount of work to prepare for thesis games. By construct, the USA/ Canada game will be sub-optimal so that teams less advanced teams can play with continuous flow and fewer stoppages of play.

As global lacrosse develops, a shot clock will become more realistic at all levels.
All makes sense. Thanks.

East Asia and the South Pacific well represented with South Korea, Hong Kong, Japan, Philippines, Australia, and New Zealand playing.

DocBarrister
Well explained re: the shot clock.

The US - Canada final game match — they’ll lay it on the line, teams look like they held back this game.
Canada will need to cover O’Neill much better.
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Game was boring, plus watching all the one-handed Canadian “box dodgers” should make it difficult for them to score 1v 1…I turned game off after first quarter.
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faircornell wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 12:20 am
DocBarrister wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 12:08 am
faircornell wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 11:31 pm 7-5 USA Final. Some great goaltending and interceptions.
Never thought I would say this, but the international game needs a shot clock. Almost looked like a soccer version of lacrosse.

Team USA won all but two faceoffs. What is any team supposed to do against Baptiste and Ierlan?

DocBarrister
While I can't disagree, this is really more of a lacrosse "festival" in my view, as much as a tournament. This year, 30 teams qualified with no automatic invitations that I'm aware of. 107 games go through all skill levels, so the rules are geared toward the lowest common
denominator of play. World Lacrosse and the national teams do an amazing amount of work to prepare for thesis games. By construct, the USA/ Canada game will be sub-optimal so that teams less advanced teams can play with continuous flow and fewer stoppages of play.

As global lacrosse develops, a shot clock will become more realistic at all levels.
While I see the logic here, I don't agree with it. This is equivalent to saying the Olympics should've done away with a basketball shot clock when they allowed pros to play and we sent the Dream Team. Sure, it may have resulted in less dominant wins; it also would've resulted in much less worldwide excitement over the sport. I think seeing the best in the world play the best brand of the sport does more for growth then seeing closer games that aren't as exciting.
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NOVALax2015 wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 7:55 am
faircornell wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 12:20 am
DocBarrister wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 12:08 am
faircornell wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 11:31 pm 7-5 USA Final. Some great goaltending and interceptions.
Never thought I would say this, but the international game needs a shot clock. Almost looked like a soccer version of lacrosse.

Team USA won all but two faceoffs. What is any team supposed to do against Baptiste and Ierlan?

DocBarrister
While I can't disagree, this is really more of a lacrosse "festival" in my view, as much as a tournament. This year, 30 teams qualified with no automatic invitations that I'm aware of. 107 games go through all skill levels, so the rules are geared toward the lowest common
denominator of play. World Lacrosse and the national teams do an amazing amount of work to prepare for thesis games. By construct, the USA/ Canada game will be sub-optimal so that teams less advanced teams can play with continuous flow and fewer stoppages of play.

As global lacrosse develops, a shot clock will become more realistic at all levels.
While I see the logic here, I don't agree with it. This is equivalent to saying the Olympics should've done away with a basketball shot clock when they allowed pros to play and we sent the Dream Team. Sure, it may have resulted in less dominant wins; it also would've resulted in much less worldwide excitement over the sport. I think seeing the best in the world play the best brand of the sport does more for growth then seeing closer games that aren't as exciting.
Speaking of the Olympics, I just don't see how this can be considered an Olympic sport when 2 countries dominate as much as they do in this sport. There is an utter lack of competitiveness outside of the US and Canada especially when you consider that to compete for a country in the Olympics you have to be a citizen of that country. How many players on non-US/Canada lineups are US or Canadian citizens?
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BrownDad wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 8:17 am
NOVALax2015 wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 7:55 am
faircornell wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 12:20 am
DocBarrister wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 12:08 am
faircornell wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 11:31 pm 7-5 USA Final. Some great goaltending and interceptions.
Never thought I would say this, but the international game needs a shot clock. Almost looked like a soccer version of lacrosse.

Team USA won all but two faceoffs. What is any team supposed to do against Baptiste and Ierlan?

DocBarrister
While I can't disagree, this is really more of a lacrosse "festival" in my view, as much as a tournament. This year, 30 teams qualified with no automatic invitations that I'm aware of. 107 games go through all skill levels, so the rules are geared toward the lowest common
denominator of play. World Lacrosse and the national teams do an amazing amount of work to prepare for thesis games. By construct, the USA/ Canada game will be sub-optimal so that teams less advanced teams can play with continuous flow and fewer stoppages of play.

As global lacrosse develops, a shot clock will become more realistic at all levels.
While I see the logic here, I don't agree with it. This is equivalent to saying the Olympics should've done away with a basketball shot clock when they allowed pros to play and we sent the Dream Team. Sure, it may have resulted in less dominant wins; it also would've resulted in much less worldwide excitement over the sport. I think seeing the best in the world play the best brand of the sport does more for growth then seeing closer games that aren't as exciting.
Speaking of the Olympics, I just don't see how this can be considered an Olympic sport when 2 countries dominate as much as they do in this sport. There is an utter lack of competitiveness outside of the US and Canada especially when you consider that to compete for a country in the Olympics you have to be a citizen of that country. How many players on non-US/Canada lineups are US or Canadian citizens?
And what will be played in the Olympics isn’t lacrosse….It’s a different sport played with lacrosse sticks and goals. May as well flip the goals over and play without a goalie. I refuse to watch it.
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faircornell wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 12:20 am
DocBarrister wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 12:08 am
faircornell wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 11:31 pm 7-5 USA Final. Some great goaltending and interceptions.
Never thought I would say this, but the international game needs a shot clock. Almost looked like a soccer version of lacrosse.

Team USA won all but two faceoffs. What is any team supposed to do against Baptiste and Ierlan?

DocBarrister
While I can't disagree, this is really more of a lacrosse "festival" in my view, as much as a tournament. This year, 30 teams qualified with no automatic invitations that I'm aware of. 107 games go through all skill levels, so the rules are geared toward the lowest common
denominator of play. World Lacrosse and the national teams do an amazing amount of work to prepare for thesis games. By construct, the USA/ Canada game will be sub-optimal so that teams less advanced teams can play with continuous flow and fewer stoppages of play.

As global lacrosse develops, a shot clock will become more realistic at all levels.
Agree and most players playing for different countries had to raise their own funds on average $5k to get there and participate.
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:22 am
BrownDad wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 8:17 am
NOVALax2015 wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 7:55 am
faircornell wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 12:20 am
DocBarrister wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 12:08 am
faircornell wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 11:31 pm 7-5 USA Final. Some great goaltending and interceptions.
Never thought I would say this, but the international game needs a shot clock. Almost looked like a soccer version of lacrosse.

Team USA won all but two faceoffs. What is any team supposed to do against Baptiste and Ierlan?

DocBarrister
While I can't disagree, this is really more of a lacrosse "festival" in my view, as much as a tournament. This year, 30 teams qualified with no automatic invitations that I'm aware of. 107 games go through all skill levels, so the rules are geared toward the lowest common
denominator of play. World Lacrosse and the national teams do an amazing amount of work to prepare for thesis games. By construct, the USA/ Canada game will be sub-optimal so that teams less advanced teams can play with continuous flow and fewer stoppages of play.

As global lacrosse develops, a shot clock will become more realistic at all levels.
While I see the logic here, I don't agree with it. This is equivalent to saying the Olympics should've done away with a basketball shot clock when they allowed pros to play and we sent the Dream Team. Sure, it may have resulted in less dominant wins; it also would've resulted in much less worldwide excitement over the sport. I think seeing the best in the world play the best brand of the sport does more for growth then seeing closer games that aren't as exciting.
Speaking of the Olympics, I just don't see how this can be considered an Olympic sport when 2 countries dominate as much as they do in this sport. There is an utter lack of competitiveness outside of the US and Canada especially when you consider that to compete for a country in the Olympics you have to be a citizen of that country. How many players on non-US/Canada lineups are US or Canadian citizens?
And what will be played in the Olympics isn’t lacrosse….It’s a different sport played with lacrosse sticks and goals. May as well flip the goals over and play without a goalie. I refuse to watch it.
Money talks sadly. Note that the offices of the 2024 Paris Olympics and the French IOC in Paris were raided by authorities earlier this week
investigating alleged financial improprieties including bribery.

may explain why some movers and shakers in lacrosse want access to that money train including inventing a new sport as a price of admission.

Also would like to know how you schedule the most compelling matchup of the entire event on the first night at 10:00PM EDT on the East Coast where most of your target audience is :oops:
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:22 am
BrownDad wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 8:17 am
NOVALax2015 wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 7:55 am
faircornell wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 12:20 am
DocBarrister wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 12:08 am
faircornell wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 11:31 pm 7-5 USA Final. Some great goaltending and interceptions.
Never thought I would say this, but the international game needs a shot clock. Almost looked like a soccer version of lacrosse.

Team USA won all but two faceoffs. What is any team supposed to do against Baptiste and Ierlan?

DocBarrister
While I can't disagree, this is really more of a lacrosse "festival" in my view, as much as a tournament. This year, 30 teams qualified with no automatic invitations that I'm aware of. 107 games go through all skill levels, so the rules are geared toward the lowest common
denominator of play. World Lacrosse and the national teams do an amazing amount of work to prepare for thesis games. By construct, the USA/ Canada game will be sub-optimal so that teams less advanced teams can play with continuous flow and fewer stoppages of play.

As global lacrosse develops, a shot clock will become more realistic at all levels.
While I see the logic here, I don't agree with it. This is equivalent to saying the Olympics should've done away with a basketball shot clock when they allowed pros to play and we sent the Dream Team. Sure, it may have resulted in less dominant wins; it also would've resulted in much less worldwide excitement over the sport. I think seeing the best in the world play the best brand of the sport does more for growth then seeing closer games that aren't as exciting.
Speaking of the Olympics, I just don't see how this can be considered an Olympic sport when 2 countries dominate as much as they do in this sport. There is an utter lack of competitiveness outside of the US and Canada especially when you consider that to compete for a country in the Olympics you have to be a citizen of that country. How many players on non-US/Canada lineups are US or Canadian citizens?
And what will be played in the Olympics isn’t lacrosse….It’s a different sport played with lacrosse sticks and goals. May as well flip the goals over and play without a goalie. I refuse to watch it.
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Only issue with the "Olympics" IS the Nation is going to get the run around to gain entry, like what happened in England a few years back.
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I see a new market emerging. You know the "Ukrainian bride" pop up ads? (used to be "Russian" brides ;)

Well, apparently, the World lacrosse rules stipulate "marriage" to a resident, makes one qualified to play for that country.

A little bizness niche.......team Columbia or Brazil could be a real factor, real soon. Lacrosse brides.
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Was it me or was Rob Pannell bad last night? Thought the younger guys looked way better...
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He had two assists. O'Neil, the youngest player, looked the best.
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Starting attack combined for a couple of assists, both from Pannell. No points from the lefty attackmen as the best lefty attackman, O’Neill, played midfield. Each UVA second middie scored a goal. Can Canada, shut out for almost the entire second half, win enough face-offs to take the rematch? USA was also without the reigning MVP last night, but that didn’t seem to matter with such an elite corps of poles.
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